• Re: Summer 2022 transfers thread

    From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 26 01:29:52 2022
    Can't see it mentioned elsewhere on rss so let me also state for the record that Sadio Mane has left Liverpool for Bayern Munich for a transfer fee of 32m Euros, which could increase by a further 9m depending on appearances and achievements.

    The 30 year old striker scored 16 times in 34 Premier League matches last season (23 in 51 matches across all competitions).

    Still a very good player but in terms of business have Liverpool sold at just the right time? And have Bayern overpaid?


    RM

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 26 01:16:51 2022
    Let me start this summer's transfer thread with the following news:

    Nottingham Forest have broken their club transfer record by signing Taiwo Awoniyi from Union Berlin. Forest spent £17.5m on the forward who scored 15 times in 31 Bundesliga games last season (20 goals in 43 across all competitions).

    The 24 year old, who also plays for the Nigeria national team, signed a 5 year deal and is Nottingham Forest's first signing since promotion to the Premier League.


    RM

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Sun Jun 26 06:00:55 2022
    On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 9:29:55 AM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:

    RM

    From Lyon's facebook page, it looks as though Sara Dabritz has moved from PSG to Lyon! Can anyone confirm that?

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Mark on Sun Jun 26 19:43:03 2022
    I dont know if it is all the new TV money they will be getting, but MLS has been busy buying players. Like the 2nd most expensive footballer of all time and a bunch of big name Italian players, maybe it it will finally make me pay attention to the MLS, I
    just cant follow it, the play is rather poor and I just cant get excited or even moderately interested in the product.

    On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 9:00:58 a.m. UTC-4, Mark wrote:
    On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 9:29:55 AM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:

    RM

    From Lyon's facebook page, it looks as though Sara Dabritz has moved from PSG to Lyon! Can anyone confirm that?

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Mark on Mon Jun 27 07:46:56 2022
    On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 9:00:58 AM UTC-4, Mark wrote:
    On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 9:29:55 AM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:

    RM

    From Lyon's facebook page, it looks as though Sara Dabritz has moved from PSG to Lyon! Can anyone confirm that?

    Sara Björk Gunnarsdóttir has transferred from Lyon to Juventus. Juve has also acquired Lineth Beerensteyn from Bayern.

    Euro 2022 starts in about 10 days. I'll probably launcha SophCon

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 3 14:34:52 2022
    Manchester United goalkeeper Dean Henderson has joined Nottingham Forest on a season long loan. There is no option to buy and a condition of the loan is that Henderson can't play against United in the Premier League.


    RM

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Sun Jul 3 15:34:51 2022
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:54 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    Manchester United goalkeeper Dean Henderson has joined Nottingham Forest on a season long loan. There is no option to buy and a condition of the loan is that Henderson can't play against United in the Premier
    League.

    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81m€ to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality).
    Add the 30m€ for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.


    Ciao,
    Werner


    RM

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 4 14:10:01 2022
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81m€ to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality).
    Add the 30m€ for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League? Or is the club content to keep making profits
    producing a conveyor belt of talent to sell on?


    RM

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 4 14:42:07 2022
    Galatasaray have made Egypt forward Mostafa Mohamed's loan from Zamalek permanent by paying £3.46m for a three year deal.

    Mohamed has spent the past two seasons at Galatasaray, scoring 8 goals in 16 matches in 2020/21 and 5 goals in 17 matches last season.


    RM

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 4 14:27:35 2022
    At the risk of turning this into a Nottingham Forest centric thread, the Reds have signed 22 year old defender Giulian Biancone on a three-year deal from Ligue 1 side Troyes. He can play as a centre back or right back and made 33 appearances for Troyes
    last season. He spent the 2019/20 and 2020/21 seasons on loan at Cercle Brugge.

    RM

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Mon Jul 4 17:05:57 2022
    On 2022-07-04 15:42, Real Mardin wrote:
    Galatasaray have made Egypt forward Mostafa Mohamed's loan from Zamalek permanent by paying £3.46m for a three year deal.

    Mohamed has spent the past two seasons at Galatasaray, scoring 8 goals in 16 matches in 2020/21 and 5 goals in 17 matches last season.


    RM

    Maybe I missed discussion of this, as I was travelling, but what do
    people think about the following confirmed or strongly rumoured transfers:

    Darwin Nuñez to Liverpool

    Richarlison to Spurs (good player, but is he not pretty equivalent to Son ?)

    Kalvin Phillips to Man City (do they really need reinforcements ?)

    Eriksen to Man United

    Gabriel Jesus to Arsenal

    Calvin Ramsay to Liverpool

    Fabio Carvalho to Liverpool

    gareth Bale to LAFC

    Insigne to TFC

    Fabio Vieira to Arsenal

    Ortega to Man City


    Rumour also that Bernardo Silva wants to move to Barca.

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 5 11:56:03 2022
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 12:06:05 AM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-07-04 15:42, Real Mardin wrote:
    Galatasaray have made Egypt forward Mostafa Mohamed's loan from Zamalek permanent by paying £3.46m for a three year deal.

    Mohamed has spent the past two seasons at Galatasaray, scoring 8 goals in 16 matches in 2020/21 and 5 goals in 17 matches last season.


    RM
    Maybe I missed discussion of this, as I was travelling, but what do
    people think about the following confirmed or strongly rumoured transfers:

    Darwin Nuñez to Liverpool

    Richarlison to Spurs (good player, but is he not pretty equivalent to Son ?)

    Kalvin Phillips to Man City (do they really need reinforcements ?)

    Eriksen to Man United

    Gabriel Jesus to Arsenal


    So on the subject of Jesús, it feels like he’s been around forever, I was expecting him to be over 30 but apparently he’s only 25. Not a great goal scoring record in the past two seasons but that might be to do with Man City’s playing system.

    RM



    Calvin Ramsay to Liverpool

    Fabio Carvalho to Liverpool

    gareth Bale to LAFC

    Insigne to TFC

    Fabio Vieira to Arsenal

    Ortega to Man City


    Rumour also that Bernardo Silva wants to move to Barca.

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 5 13:55:35 2022
    Nottingham Forest goalkeeper Brice Samba has joined RC Lens. He played 45 matches in all competitions last season, including the Championship playoff semi-final second leg against Sheffield United, where he was the hero of the penalty shootout with three
    saves.

    RM

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  • From Al Kamista@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 6 05:01:10 2022
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 7:06:05 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
    On 2022-07-04 15:42, Real Mardin wrote:
    Galatasaray have made Egypt forward Mostafa Mohamed's loan from Zamalek permanent by paying £3.46m for a three year deal.

    Mohamed has spent the past two seasons at Galatasaray, scoring 8 goals in 16 matches in 2020/21 and 5 goals in 17 matches last season.


    RM
    Maybe I missed discussion of this, as I was travelling, but what do
    people think about the following confirmed or strongly rumoured transfers:

    Darwin Nuñez to Liverpool

    Richarlison to Spurs (good player, but is he not pretty equivalent to Son ?)

    Kalvin Phillips to Man City (do they really need reinforcements ?)

    Eriksen to Man United

    Gabriel Jesus to Arsenal

    Calvin Ramsay to Liverpool

    Fabio Carvalho to Liverpool

    gareth Bale to LAFC

    Insigne to TFC

    Fabio Vieira to Arsenal

    Ortega to Man City

    Pogba and Di Maria both to Juve on free transfers. Juventus using a new stealth approach of picking up high profile free agents rather than spending millions on transfer fees. Could be a masterstroke.

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Wed Jul 6 09:17:14 2022
    On 2022-07-05 12:56, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 12:06:05 AM UTC+1, MH wrote:

    RM
    Maybe I missed discussion of this, as I was travelling, but what do
    people think about the following confirmed or strongly rumoured transfers: >>
    Darwin Nuñez to Liverpool

    Richarlison to Spurs (good player, but is he not pretty equivalent to Son ?) >>
    Kalvin Phillips to Man City (do they really need reinforcements ?)

    Eriksen to Man United

    Gabriel Jesus to Arsenal


    So on the subject of Jesús, it feels like he’s been around forever, I was expecting him to be over 30 but apparently he’s only 25. Not a great goal scoring record in the past two seasons but that might be to do with Man City’s playing system.

    He might do very well at Arsenal, as I imagine with Lacazette and
    Aubameyang gone he will get lots of playing time.

    RM



    Calvin Ramsay to Liverpool

    Fabio Carvalho to Liverpool

    gareth Bale to LAFC

    Insigne to TFC

    Toronto FC doubling down on Italians. Supposedly they have signed
    Bernardeschi as well, with Pozuelo leaving. (to Inter Miami)


    Fabio Vieira to Arsenal

    Ortega to Man City


    Rumour also that Bernardo Silva wants to move to Barca.

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 6 12:33:47 2022
    I fully appreciate there are other teams in the World than Nottingham Forest, but being new to the Premier League they're making so many signings to get their squad up to standard. Today's signing was 26 year old centre back Moussa Niakhate, signed from
    05 Mainz on a three year deal with an option to extend for one year. Niakhate played 128 league games for Mainz over the past four seasons, scoring 9 times.


    RM

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Wed Jul 6 23:15:05 2022
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81m€ to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality).
    Add the 30m€ for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).

    Or is the club content to keep making profits producing a conveyor belt of talent to sell on?

    I admit it does beg the question what they're doing with all that cash. Their youth set-up with its top-notch
    facilities in Salzburg definitely costs a pretty penny, but by now the surplus must be substantial.

    One thing they *should* do in my opinion - and that they haven't done so yet is actually quite pathetic - is
    to sponsor a women's team.


    Ciao,
    Werner



    RM

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to alka.. on Fri Jul 8 15:48:29 2022
    On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-4, alka.. wrote:

    Pogba and Di Maria both to Juve on free transfers. Juventus using a new stealth approach of picking up high profile free agents rather than spending millions on transfer fees. Could be a masterstroke.

    I detect some sarcasm...To be honest, the stealth approach had been more successful than the recent spree of high-profile acquisitions. Anyway, Pogba and Di Maria are definite improvements to the squad...even though Di Maria has explicitly said that he
    is only looking for a one-year contract. One wonders how motivated he will be after the WC.

    In other news, De Ligt is apparently on his way to Bayern. Juve looking to replace him with Koulibaly. Also Zaniolo strongly rumored to be joining Juve.

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Sun Jul 10 02:49:28 2022
    On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 11:48:30 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-4, alka.. wrote:

    Pogba and Di Maria both to Juve on free transfers. Juventus using a new stealth approach of picking up high profile free agents rather than spending millions on transfer fees. Could be a masterstroke.
    I detect some sarcasm...To be honest, the stealth approach had been more successful than the recent spree of high-profile acquisitions. Anyway, Pogba and Di Maria are definite improvements to the squad...even though Di Maria has explicitly said that he
    is only looking for a one-year contract. One wonders how motivated he will be after the WC.

    In other news, De Ligt is apparently on his way to Bayern. Juve looking to replace him with Koulibaly. Also Zaniolo strongly rumored to be joining Juve.

    A big transfer to bring you, Raheem Sterling is moving from Manchester City to Chelsea for £50m (pending a medical). At 27 years of age you’d think he still has a few good seasons to give.

    And just so we don’t deviate from the emerging Nottingham Forest theme of the thread, the Reds have signed 24 year old left back Omar Richards from Bayern Munich for £10m. Richards played 12 Bundesliga matches for Bayern last season. Bundesliga
    viewers - have you seen him play and is he any good?

    RM

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Sun Jul 10 09:00:27 2022
    On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 11:48:30 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-4, alka.. wrote:

    Pogba and Di Maria both to Juve on free transfers. Juventus using a new stealth approach of picking up high profile free agents rather than spending millions on transfer fees. Could be a masterstroke.
    I detect some sarcasm...To be honest, the stealth approach had been more successful than the recent spree of high-profile acquisitions. Anyway, Pogba and Di Maria are definite improvements to the squad...even though Di Maria has explicitly said that he
    is only looking for a one-year contract. One wonders how motivated he will be after the WC.

    In other news, De Ligt is apparently on his way to Bayern. Juve looking to replace him with Koulibaly. Also Zaniolo strongly rumored to be joining Juve.

    Carina Wenninger from FC Bayern Frauen to Roma. Not a single player left in Bayern Munchen's squad that started the 2016 Championship winning season. Where's the loyalty in football these days?

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Mark on Sun Jul 10 12:07:46 2022
    On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 6:00:28 PM UTC+2, Mark wrote:
    On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 11:48:30 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-4, alka.. wrote:

    Pogba and Di Maria both to Juve on free transfers. Juventus using a new stealth approach of picking up high profile free agents rather than spending millions on transfer fees. Could be a masterstroke.

    I detect some sarcasm...To be honest, the stealth approach had been more successful than the recent spree of high-profile acquisitions. Anyway, Pogba and Di Maria are definite improvements to the squad...even
    though Di Maria has explicitly said that he is only looking for a one-year contract. One wonders how motivated he will be after the WC.

    In other news, De Ligt is apparently on his way to Bayern. Juve looking to replace him with Koulibaly. Also Zaniolo strongly rumored to be joining Juve.

    Carina Wenninger from FC Bayern Frauen to Roma. Not a single player left in Bayern Munchen's squad that started the 2016 Championship winning season. Where's the loyalty in football these days?

    You realise (actually I'm pretty sure you don't) that Wenninger has been *loaned out* to Roma by Bayern as a kind of thank you for her
    long years of service, because Bayern can't give her first-team minutes anymore, and she wanted to play in one more foreign country before the
    end of her career.


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Al Kamista@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Sun Jul 10 16:45:52 2022
    On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 6:48:30 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-4, alka.. wrote:

    Pogba and Di Maria both to Juve on free transfers. Juventus using a new stealth approach of picking up high profile free agents rather than spending millions on transfer fees. Could be a masterstroke.
    I detect some sarcasm...

    Well, it was not meant to be subtle :-)

    To be honest, the stealth approach had been more successful than the recent spree of high-profile acquisitions.

    I think Khedira might have been the last free transfer success? Certainly in more recent times Can, Rabiot, and Ramsey were not. Maybe I am missing someone.

    Anyway, Pogba and Di Maria are definite improvements to the squad...even though Di Maria has explicitly said that he is only looking for a one-year contract. One wonders how motivated he will be after the WC.

    I see Pogba (along with Neymar) as the ultimate luxury player. Give them a balanced and dominant team and they will look like rockstars. But in lesser teams they are defensive liabilities - they are too much flair players who are not bothered with menial
    tasks like running off the ball. What team Juventus is now, will have a strong bearing on his efficacy, in my opinion

    Slight sidebar but he biggest Pogba myth is that he's a far better player for France than he is for Man U. He is the same player - he gives away the ball and gets caught in possession often for France too but they have the defensive structure to clean up
    after him. As did the dominant Juventus he played for before.

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to alka...@hotmail.com on Mon Jul 11 11:53:56 2022
    On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 12:45:53 AM UTC+1, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 6:48:30 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 8:01:12 AM UTC-4, alka.. wrote:

    Pogba and Di Maria both to Juve on free transfers. Juventus using a new stealth approach of picking up high profile free agents rather than spending millions on transfer fees. Could be a masterstroke.
    I detect some sarcasm...
    Well, it was not meant to be subtle :-)
    To be honest, the stealth approach had been more successful than the recent spree of high-profile acquisitions.
    I think Khedira might have been the last free transfer success? Certainly in more recent times Can, Rabiot, and Ramsey were not. Maybe I am missing someone.
    Anyway, Pogba and Di Maria are definite improvements to the squad...even though Di Maria has explicitly said that he is only looking for a one-year contract. One wonders how motivated he will be after the WC.
    I see Pogba (along with Neymar) as the ultimate luxury player. Give them a balanced and dominant team and they will look like rockstars. But in lesser teams they are defensive liabilities - they are too much flair players who are not bothered with
    menial tasks like running off the ball. What team Juventus is now, will have a strong bearing on his efficacy, in my opinion

    Slight sidebar but he biggest Pogba myth is that he's a far better player for France than he is for Man U. He is the same player - he gives away the ball and gets caught in possession often for France too but they have the defensive structure to clean
    up after him. As did the dominant Juventus he played for before.

    These days you can’t turn on the news or go online without hearing about yet another Nottingham Forest transfer. Today’s transfer was Neco Williams, a 21 year old right back bought from Liverpool. Williams played one Premier League match for
    Liverpool last season and made three Champions League appearances but played a further 14 times on loan Fulham in the Championship. He’s also a Wales international.


    RM

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Tue Jul 12 02:45:32 2022
    On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 8:07:48 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 6:00:28 PM UTC+2, Mark wrote:

    Carina Wenninger from FC Bayern Frauen to Roma. Not a single player left in Bayern Munchen's squad that started the 2016 Championship winning season. Where's the loyalty in football these days?
    You realise (actually I'm pretty sure you don't) that Wenninger has been *loaned out* to Roma by Bayern as a kind of thank you for her
    long years of service, because Bayern can't give her first-team minutes anymore, and she wanted to play in one more foreign country before the
    end of her career.



    No I didn't know that. I'm still puzzled about why so many players have come and gone at Bayern Munchen in such a short time though. It's understandable at a small club that can't keep it's best players because richer clubs can offer them higher wages,
    but why is this happening at Bayern Munchen?

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Wed Jul 13 09:14:02 2022
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81m€ to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality).

    Add the 30m€ for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).

    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13m€ (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-Étienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33m€ (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30m€ (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30m€ (Leicester)
    Naby Keïta 30m€ (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23m€ (Brighton)
    Sadio Mané 23m€ (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22m€ (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20m€ (Dortmund)
    Duje Ćaleta-Car 19m€ (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Munas Dabbur 17m€ (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15m€ (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadié Samassékou 14m€ (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13m€ (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13m€ (Mönchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12m€ (Dortmund)
    Alan 11m€ (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11m€ (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11m€ (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongračić 9m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9m€ (Liverpool)

    Maximilian Wöber 8m€ (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Sat Jul 16 03:10:58 2022
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:14:04 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81m€ to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality).

    Add the 30m€ for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13m€ (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-Étienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33m€ (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30m€ (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30m€ (Leicester)
    Naby Keïta 30m€ (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23m€ (Brighton)
    Sadio Mané 23m€ (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22m€ (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20m€ (Dortmund)
    Duje Ćaleta-Car 19m€ (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Munas Dabbur 17m€ (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15m€ (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadié Samassékou 14m€ (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13m€ (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13m€ (Mönchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12m€ (Dortmund)
    Alan 11m€ (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11m€ (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11m€ (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongračić 9m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9m€ (Liverpool)

    Maximilian Wöber 8m€ (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)

    Lisandro Martinez Ajax to Man Utd £45m

    Raphinha Leeds to Barcelona deal worth £55m

    Wayne Hennessey Burnley to Nottingham Forest free


    RM

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Sat Jul 16 13:06:38 2022
    On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 1:10:59 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:14:04 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81m€ to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality).

    Add the 30m€ for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13m€ (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-Étienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33m€ (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30m€ (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30m€ (Leicester)
    Naby Keïta 30m€ (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23m€ (Brighton)
    Sadio Mané 23m€ (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22m€ (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20m€ (Dortmund)
    Duje Ćaleta-Car 19m€ (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Munas Dabbur 17m€ (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15m€ (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadié Samassékou 14m€ (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13m€ (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13m€ (Mönchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12m€ (Dortmund)
    Alan 11m€ (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11m€ (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11m€ (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongračić 9m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9m€ (Liverpool)

    Maximilian Wöber 8m€ (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)
    Lisandro Martinez Ajax to Man Utd £45m

    Raphinha Leeds to Barcelona deal worth £55m

    Wayne Hennessey Burnley to Nottingham Forest free


    Kalidou Koulibaly Napoli to Chelsea

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Sun Jul 17 12:53:59 2022
    On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 9:06:39 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 1:10:59 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:14:04 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81m€ to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality).

    Add the 30m€ for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13m€ (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-Étienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33m€ (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30m€ (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30m€ (Leicester)
    Naby Keïta 30m€ (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23m€ (Brighton)
    Sadio Mané 23m€ (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22m€ (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20m€ (Dortmund)
    Duje Ćaleta-Car 19m€ (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Munas Dabbur 17m€ (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15m€ (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadié Samassékou 14m€ (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13m€ (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13m€ (Mönchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12m€ (Dortmund)
    Alan 11m€ (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11m€ (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11m€ (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongračić 9m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9m€ (Liverpool)

    Maximilian Wöber 8m€ (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)
    Lisandro Martinez Ajax to Man Utd £45m

    Raphinha Leeds to Barcelona deal worth £55m

    Wayne Hennessey Burnley to Nottingham Forest free

    Kalidou Koulibaly Napoli to Chelsea

    Sergio Oliveira Porto to Galatasaray, £2.7m, what a bargain!

    RM

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Wed Jul 20 12:55:07 2022
    On 2022-07-16 14:06, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 1:10:59 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:14:04 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>>>>
    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81m€ to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality). >>>>>>
    Add the 30m€ for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13m€ (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-Étienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33m€ (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30m€ (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30m€ (Leicester)
    Naby Keïta 30m€ (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23m€ (Brighton)
    Sadio Mané 23m€ (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22m€ (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20m€ (Dortmund)
    Duje Ćaleta-Car 19m€ (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Munas Dabbur 17m€ (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15m€ (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadié Samassékou 14m€ (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13m€ (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13m€ (Mönchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12m€ (Dortmund)
    Alan 11m€ (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11m€ (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11m€ (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongračić 9m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9m€ (Liverpool)

    Maximilian Wöber 8m€ (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)
    Lisandro Martinez Ajax to Man Utd £45m

    Raphinha Leeds to Barcelona deal worth £55m

    Wayne Hennessey Burnley to Nottingham Forest free


    Kalidou Koulibaly Napoli to Chelsea

    Understandable with Rüdiger leaving.

    Cyle Larin went to Bruges from Besiktas. He joins Tajon Buchanan in the Canadian contingent there. Might not be a smart move, though, as the competition with De Ketelaere might be too stiff.


    Bernardeschi to TFC from JUve now confirmed. Criscito has player,
    Insigne not yet.

    Özil from one Istanbul team to another.

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 20 14:27:44 2022
    On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 7:55:11 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-07-16 14:06, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 1:10:59 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:14:04 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote: >>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>> On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>>>>
    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81m€ to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality). >>>>>>
    Add the 30m€ for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13m€ (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-Étienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33m€ (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30m€ (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30m€ (Leicester)
    Naby Keïta 30m€ (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23m€ (Brighton)
    Sadio Mané 23m€ (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22m€ (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20m€ (Dortmund)
    Duje Ćaleta-Car 19m€ (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Munas Dabbur 17m€ (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15m€ (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadié Samassékou 14m€ (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13m€ (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13m€ (Mönchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12m€ (Dortmund)
    Alan 11m€ (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11m€ (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11m€ (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongračić 9m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9m€ (Liverpool)

    Maximilian Wöber 8m€ (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)
    Lisandro Martinez Ajax to Man Utd £45m

    Raphinha Leeds to Barcelona deal worth £55m

    Wayne Hennessey Burnley to Nottingham Forest free


    Kalidou Koulibaly Napoli to Chelsea
    Understandable with Rüdiger leaving.

    Cyle Larin went to Bruges from Besiktas. He joins Tajon Buchanan in the Canadian contingent there. Might not be a smart move, though, as the competition with De Ketelaere might be too stiff.


    He could get to play Champions League football but once those 6 matches are over this might end up being a backward step.

    RM

    Bernardeschi to TFC from JUve now confirmed. Criscito has player,
    Insigne not yet.

    Özil from one Istanbul team to another.

    From Fenerbahce to Basaksehir.

    RM

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 20 14:22:05 2022
    On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 7:55:11 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-07-16 14:06, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 1:10:59 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:14:04 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote: >>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>> On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>>>>
    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81m€ to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality). >>>>>>
    Add the 30m€ for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13m€ (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-Étienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33m€ (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30m€ (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30m€ (Leicester)
    Naby Keïta 30m€ (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23m€ (Brighton)
    Sadio Mané 23m€ (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22m€ (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20m€ (Dortmund)
    Duje Ćaleta-Car 19m€ (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Munas Dabbur 17m€ (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15m€ (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadié Samassékou 14m€ (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13m€ (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13m€ (Mönchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12m€ (Dortmund)
    Alan 11m€ (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11m€ (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11m€ (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongračić 9m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9m€ (Liverpool)

    Maximilian Wöber 8m€ (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)
    Lisandro Martinez Ajax to Man Utd £45m

    Raphinha Leeds to Barcelona deal worth £55m

    Wayne Hennessey Burnley to Nottingham Forest free


    Kalidou Koulibaly Napoli to Chelsea
    Understandable with Rüdiger leaving.

    Cyle Larin went to Bruges from Besiktas. He joins Tajon Buchanan in the Canadian contingent there. Might not be a smart move, though, as the competition with De Ketelaere might be too stiff.


    Bernardeschi to TFC from JUve now confirmed. Criscito has player,
    Insigne not yet.

    Özil from one Istanbul team to another.

    No mention of Matthijs De Light from Juventus to Bayern Munich for a whopping £59.5m plus £8.5m add ons?

    TM

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Thu Jul 21 09:15:17 2022
    On 2022-07-20 15:27, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 7:55:11 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-07-16 14:06, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 1:10:59 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 5:14:04 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>>>> On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote: >>>>>>>>
    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81m€ to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality). >>>>>>>>
    Add the 30m€ for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13m€ (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-Étienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33m€ (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30m€ (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30m€ (Leicester)
    Naby Keïta 30m€ (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23m€ (Brighton)
    Sadio Mané 23m€ (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22m€ (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20m€ (Dortmund)
    Duje Ćaleta-Car 19m€ (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Munas Dabbur 17m€ (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15m€ (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadié Samassékou 14m€ (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13m€ (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13m€ (Mönchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12m€ (Dortmund)
    Alan 11m€ (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11m€ (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11m€ (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongračić 9m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9m€ (Liverpool)

    Maximilian Wöber 8m€ (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)
    Lisandro Martinez Ajax to Man Utd £45m

    Raphinha Leeds to Barcelona deal worth £55m

    Wayne Hennessey Burnley to Nottingham Forest free


    Kalidou Koulibaly Napoli to Chelsea
    Understandable with Rüdiger leaving.

    Cyle Larin went to Bruges from Besiktas. He joins Tajon Buchanan in the
    Canadian contingent there. Might not be a smart move, though, as the
    competition with De Ketelaere might be too stiff.


    He could get to play Champions League football but once those 6 matches are over this might end up being a backward step.

    Hard to tell. Playing in the Belgian league has been a good showcase
    for North American talent in the past - Jonathan David, Radzinski, Mike Klukowski, and more than a few US NT players.
    Anderlecht showed signs of a bit of a revival at the end of last season,
    but Bruges must still be favourites for another title.

    RM

    Bernardeschi to TFC from JUve now confirmed. Criscito has player,
    Insigne not yet.

    Özil from one Istanbul team to another.

    From Fenerbahce to Basaksehir.

    RM

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Thu Jul 21 13:23:53 2022
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 12:22:06 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:

    No mention of Matthijs De Light from Juventus to Bayern Munich for a whopping £59.5m plus £8.5m add ons?

    Big loss for Juve, but maybe he wasn't the best fit for Allegri's way of defending? Anyway, Juve has promptly replaced him with Gleison Bremer of Torino, who was one of the best defenders in Serie A last year.

    Also, Dybala --> Roma. A step backwards for La Joya, who a few months ago turned down a much fatter contract renewal offer from Juve. Kids, make sure you get a good agent.

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Sat Jul 23 04:11:20 2022
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 9:23:55 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 12:22:06 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:

    No mention of Matthijs De Light from Juventus to Bayern Munich for a whopping £59.5m plus £8.5m add ons?
    Big loss for Juve, but maybe he wasn't the best fit for Allegri's way of defending? Anyway, Juve has promptly replaced him with Gleison Bremer of Torino, who was one of the best defenders in Serie A last year.

    Also, Dybala --> Roma. A step backwards for La Joya, who a few months ago turned down a much fatter contract renewal offer from Juve. Kids, make sure you get a good agent.


    Oleksandr Zinchenko Manchester City to Arsenal

    Vedat Muriqi Lazio to Real Mallorca

    Ryan Babel Galatasaray to Eyupspor


    RM

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  • From Al Kamista@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Sat Jul 23 11:30:28 2022
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 4:23:55 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 12:22:06 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:

    No mention of Matthijs De Light from Juventus to Bayern Munich for a whopping £59.5m plus £8.5m add ons?
    Big loss for Juve, but maybe he wasn't the best fit for Allegri's way of defending? Anyway, Juve has promptly replaced him with Gleison Bremer of Torino, who was one of the best defenders in Serie A last year.

    Also, Dybala --> Roma. A step backwards for La Joya, who a few months ago turned down a much fatter contract renewal offer from Juve. Kids, make sure you get a good agent.

    I think I've mentioned here before, that every couple of years a young player emerges in Serie A who is priced around the 100 million Euro range by their club and subsequently priced out of the serious market, only for them to sink into relative
    obscurity a few years later.

    Belotti
    Milinković-Savić
    Icardi
    Martinez
    Dybala

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  • From Al Kamista@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Sat Jul 23 11:35:09 2022
    On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 7:11:22 AM UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 9:23:55 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 12:22:06 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:

    No mention of Matthijs De Light from Juventus to Bayern Munich for a whopping £59.5m plus £8.5m add ons?
    Big loss for Juve, but maybe he wasn't the best fit for Allegri's way of defending? Anyway, Juve has promptly replaced him with Gleison Bremer of Torino, who was one of the best defenders in Serie A last year.

    Also, Dybala --> Roma. A step backwards for La Joya, who a few months ago turned down a much fatter contract renewal offer from Juve. Kids, make sure you get a good agent.
    Oleksandr Zinchenko Manchester City to Arsenal

    Arteta quietly building a pretty decent team. Jesus, Vieira, and now Zivchenko.

    Assuming Zivchenko will play his more natural midfield position. He could really blossom there as there seems to be a very good footballer in there trying to bust out.


    Vedat Muriqi Lazio to Real Mallorca

    Ryan Babel Galatasaray to Eyupspor

    Ryan Babel is still alive!?

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to alka...@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 23 12:00:14 2022
    On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 7:35:10 PM UTC+1, alka...@hotmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 7:11:22 AM UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 9:23:55 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 12:22:06 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:

    No mention of Matthijs De Light from Juventus to Bayern Munich for a whopping £59.5m plus £8.5m add ons?
    Big loss for Juve, but maybe he wasn't the best fit for Allegri's way of defending? Anyway, Juve has promptly replaced him with Gleison Bremer of Torino, who was one of the best defenders in Serie A last year.

    Also, Dybala --> Roma. A step backwards for La Joya, who a few months ago turned down a much fatter contract renewal offer from Juve. Kids, make sure you get a good agent.
    Oleksandr Zinchenko Manchester City to Arsenal
    Arteta quietly building a pretty decent team. Jesus, Vieira, and now Zivchenko.

    Assuming Zivchenko will play his more natural midfield position. He could really blossom there as there seems to be a very good footballer in there trying to bust out.

    Vedat Muriqi Lazio to Real Mallorca

    Ryan Babel Galatasaray to Eyupspor
    Ryan Babel is still alive!?

    35 years of age, he’ll turn 36 this season.

    RM

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to alkamista@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 23 22:02:51 2022
    In article <21df1d8f-5cc4-4302-b9b1-8811b62ca5e8n@googlegroups.com>,
    Al Kamista <alkamista@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 7:11:22 AM UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 9:23:55 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 12:22:06 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:

    No mention of Matthijs De Light from Juventus to Bayern Munich for
    a whopping £59.5m plus £8.5m add ons?
    Big loss for Juve, but maybe he wasn't the best fit for Allegri's
    way of defending? Anyway, Juve has promptly replaced him with Gleison
    Bremer of Torino, who was one of the best defenders in Serie A last
    year.

    Also, Dybala --> Roma. A step backwards for La Joya, who a few
    months ago turned down a much fatter contract renewal offer from Juve.
    Kids, make sure you get a good agent.
    Oleksandr Zinchenko Manchester City to Arsenal

    Arteta quietly building a pretty decent team. Jesus, Vieira, and now Zivchenko.

    Assuming Zivchenko will play his more natural midfield position. He
    could really blossom there as there seems to be a very good footballer
    in there trying to bust out.


    Kronke finally investing!!


    Vedat Muriqi Lazio to Real Mallorca

    Ryan Babel Galatasaray to Eyupspor

    Ryan Babel is still alive!?


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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to alka... on Mon Jul 25 02:28:18 2022
    On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:30:29 PM UTC+3, alka... wrote:
    Belotti
    Milinković-Savić
    Icardi
    Martinez
    Dybala

    Simpsons' "he's already dead" meme. I don't think anybody disputes nowadays the fact that Serie A is in the doldrums. I wonder though if you were to play the same game with EPL players:

    Dele Alli
    Lingard
    Coutinho
    Martial
    Oxlade-Chamberlain
    Barkley

    All under-30 players who have lost more than 50% in their market value since July 1, 2019

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  • From Al Kamista@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Mon Jul 25 08:19:15 2022
    On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 5:28:20 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:30:29 PM UTC+3, alka... wrote:
    Belotti
    Milinković-Savić
    Icardi
    Martinez
    Dybala
    Simpsons' "he's already dead" meme. I don't think anybody disputes nowadays the fact that Serie A is in the doldrums. I wonder though if you were to play the same game with EPL players:

    Dele Alli
    Lingard
    Coutinho
    Martial
    Oxlade-Chamberlain
    Barkley

    All under-30 players who have lost more than 50% in their market value since July 1, 2019

    I think you missed the point of my post on two levels (or maybe I didn't articulate it well enough). It's not a dig at the quality of Serie A (which is old news as you point out), but rather a propensity of significanty overrate some of its young stars.
    That's why I mentioned the 100 million number, because at that price point we aren't just talking very good players, we are talking young phenoms.

    The EPL (and all leagues, FTM) has its share of overrated players, but aside from Coutinho and Alli none of these players were ever valued even north of 50 million. Hazard was also a bust, but he was already 29 when RM bought him.

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Mon Jul 25 13:46:43 2022
    On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 11:28:20 AM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 9:30:29 PM UTC+3, alka... wrote:
    Belotti
    Milinković-Savić
    Icardi
    Martinez
    Dybala
    Simpsons' "he's already dead" meme. I don't think anybody disputes nowadays the fact that Serie A is in the doldrums. I wonder though if you were to play the same game with EPL players:

    Dele Alli
    Lingard
    Coutinho
    Martial
    Oxlade-Chamberlain
    Barkley

    All under-30 players who have lost more than 50% in their market value since July 1, 2019

    Promising English (and to a lesser extent French, Spanish, German... not sure about Italian) youngsters
    will always be overpriced just due to their nationality.

    OTOH to think that every team in the world could have bought Haaland for €20m (half an Oxlade, or a third of a Martial)
    two years ago, but since he's Norwegian and was 'only' playing in Austria...


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Tue Jul 26 02:53:36 2022
    On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 11:46:45 PM UTC+3, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Promising English (and to a lesser extent French, Spanish, German... not sure about Italian) youngsters
    will always be overpriced just due to their nationality.

    Promising Italian youngsters...an oxymoron.
    ( But we will win Euro 2024!)

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to alka on Tue Jul 26 02:52:31 2022
    On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 6:19:16 PM UTC+3, alka wrote:

    All under-30 players who have lost more than 50% in their market value since July 1, 2019
    I think you missed the point of my post on two levels (or maybe I didn't articulate it well enough). It's not a dig at the quality of Serie A (which is old news as you point out), but rather a propensity of significanty overrate some of its young stars.
    That's why I mentioned the 100 million number, because at that price point we aren't just talking very good players, we are talking young phenoms.

    Let's look at the players mentioned in this conversation:


    Belotti
    Highest ever value on TransferMarkt: 40M (Dec 2017)
    Current value: 20M

    Milinković-Savić
    Highest: 90M (June 2018)
    Current: 70M

    Icardi
    Highest: 100M (Dec 2018)
    Curren: 20M

    Martinez
    Highest: 80M (Dec 2019)
    Current: 75M

    Dybala
    Highest: 110M (June 2018)
    Current: 35M

    Dele Alli
    Highest: 100M (May 2018)
    Current: 16M

    Lingard
    Highest: 40M (Jul 2018)
    Current: 18M

    Coutinho
    Highest: 150M (Oct 2018)
    Current: 20M

    Martial
    Highest: 65M (Jan 2018)
    Current: 16M

    Oxlade-Chamberlain
    Highest: 40M (May 2018)
    Current: 16M

    Barkley
    Highest: 30M (Jun 2019)
    Current 12M


    Belotti was never realistically anywhere close to 100M (even I don't doubt that some newspaper headline quoted that number at some point). Lautaro is still very much at his peak (also very close to his peak in terms of market value), definitely too early
    to call him a bust. Same for SMS (even though his value could drop precipitously in the coming years). So the only two real busts are Icardi and Dybala. I agree that at some point they were rated as young phenoms, and eventually did not quite deliver as
    expected.

    On the EPL side, Lingard, AOC and Barkley don't really belong in this conversation (like Belotti). Martial is somewhere in the middle, and Coutinho and Dele have not delivered on their early promise.

    So I count two major busts in each league. Not really enough to make sweeping generalizations.

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Mark on Tue Jul 26 03:36:42 2022
    On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 2:00:58 PM UTC+1, Mark wrote:
    On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 9:29:55 AM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:

    RM

    From Lyon's facebook page, it looks as though Sara Dabritz has moved from PSG to Lyon! Can anyone confirm that?

    Sara Dabritz from PSG to Lyon, confirmed.

    More or less anyway; there's been too many mentions of her on the Lyon women's team's facebook page for it to be remotely unlikely.

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Mark on Tue Jul 26 10:54:09 2022
    On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 11:36:43 AM UTC+1, Mark wrote:
    On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 2:00:58 PM UTC+1, Mark wrote:
    On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 9:29:55 AM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:

    RM

    From Lyon's facebook page, it looks as though Sara Dabritz has moved from PSG to Lyon! Can anyone confirm that?

    Sara Dabritz from PSG to Lyon, confirmed.

    More or less anyway; there's been too many mentions of her on the Lyon women's team's facebook page for it to be remotely unlikely.

    Nottingham Forest have signed Jesse Lingard.

    Juventus have released Aaron Ramsey and Forest are among the contenders to sign him, as are Everton.

    RM

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Jul 26 11:28:39 2022
    On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 8:54:10 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:

    Juventus have released Aaron Ramsey and Forest are among the contenders to sign him, as are Everton.

    Scamacca has agreed on personal terms with West Ham, and will undergo a medical in the coming days.
    Good news for the Serie A Rejects (who still needs one more forward signing to avoid having to adopt a non-eligible player). However, I don't have high expectations for him.

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Fri Aug 26 09:03:42 2022
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 6:14:04 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81m€ to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality).

    Add the 30m€ for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13m€ (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-Étienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33m€ (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30m€ (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30m€ (Leicester)
    Naby Keïta 30m€ (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23m€ (Brighton)
    Sadio Mané 23m€ (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22m€ (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20m€ (Dortmund)
    Duje Ćaleta-Car 19m€ (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19m€ (Leipzig)

    Rasmus Højlund 17m€ (Sturm Graz -> Atalanta)
    (+ bonuses, but those will probably be offset by FCKs cut)

    We bought him seven months ago from FC Copenhagen for 1.8m€.
    That's a slightly better yield than I get at the bank. I should buy a football player.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    Munas Dabbur 17m€ (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15m€ (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadié Samassékou 14m€ (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13m€ (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13m€ (Mönchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12m€ (Dortmund)
    Alan 11m€ (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11m€ (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11m€ (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongračić 9m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9m€ (Liverpool)

    Maximilian Wöber 8m€ (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Fri Aug 26 11:02:45 2022
    On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 5:03:44 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 6:14:04 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81m€ to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality).

    Add the 30m€ for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13m€ (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-Étienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33m€ (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30m€ (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30m€ (Leicester)
    Naby Keïta 30m€ (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23m€ (Brighton)
    Sadio Mané 23m€ (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22m€ (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20m€ (Dortmund)
    Duje Ćaleta-Car 19m€ (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Rasmus Højlund 17m€ (Sturm Graz -> Atalanta)
    (+ bonuses, but those will probably be offset by FCKs cut)

    We bought him seven months ago from FC Copenhagen for 1.8m€.
    That's a slightly better yield than I get at the bank. I should buy a football player.

    Ciao,
    Werner
    Munas Dabbur 17m€ (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15m€ (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadié Samassékou 14m€ (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13m€ (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13m€ (Mönchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12m€ (Dortmund)
    Alan 11m€ (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11m€ (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11m€ (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongračić 9m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9m€ (Liverpool)

    Maximilian Wöber 8m€ (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)

    Morgan Gibbs-White, Wolves to Nottingham Forest, £25m (twenty five million), rising to £42.5m (forty two point five million) with add ons .

    RM

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Mon Aug 29 10:30:07 2022
    On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 7:02:46 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 5:03:44 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 6:14:04 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81m€ to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality).

    Add the 30m€ for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13m€ (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-Étienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33m€ (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30m€ (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30m€ (Leicester)
    Naby Keïta 30m€ (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23m€ (Brighton)
    Sadio Mané 23m€ (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22m€ (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20m€ (Dortmund)
    Duje Ćaleta-Car 19m€ (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Rasmus Højlund 17m€ (Sturm Graz -> Atalanta)
    (+ bonuses, but those will probably be offset by FCKs cut)

    We bought him seven months ago from FC Copenhagen for 1.8m€.
    That's a slightly better yield than I get at the bank. I should buy a football player.

    Ciao,
    Werner
    Munas Dabbur 17m€ (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15m€ (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadié Samassékou 14m€ (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13m€ (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13m€ (Mönchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12m€ (Dortmund)
    Alan 11m€ (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11m€ (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11m€ (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongračić 9m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9m€ (Liverpool)

    Maximilian Wöber 8m€ (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)
    Morgan Gibbs-White, Wolves to Nottingham Forest, £25m (twenty five million), rising to £42.5m (forty two point five million) with add ons .

    RM

    The Nottingham Forest transfers are relentless, there are a few I’ve not been able to keep up with, but let me report this one:

    Renan Lodi (yes, RENAN LODI!), Atlético de Madrid to Nottingham Forest, season long loan (with an option to buy for E30m).

    RM

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Mon Aug 29 10:38:31 2022
    On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 6:30:09 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 7:02:46 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 5:03:44 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 6:14:04 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81m€ to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality).

    Add the 30m€ for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13m€ (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-Étienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33m€ (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30m€ (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30m€ (Leicester)
    Naby Keïta 30m€ (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23m€ (Brighton)
    Sadio Mané 23m€ (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22m€ (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20m€ (Dortmund)
    Duje Ćaleta-Car 19m€ (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Rasmus Højlund 17m€ (Sturm Graz -> Atalanta)
    (+ bonuses, but those will probably be offset by FCKs cut)

    We bought him seven months ago from FC Copenhagen for 1.8m€.
    That's a slightly better yield than I get at the bank. I should buy a football player.

    Ciao,
    Werner
    Munas Dabbur 17m€ (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15m€ (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadié Samassékou 14m€ (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13m€ (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13m€ (Mönchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12m€ (Dortmund)
    Alan 11m€ (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11m€ (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11m€ (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongračić 9m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9m€ (Liverpool)

    Maximilian Wöber 8m€ (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)
    Morgan Gibbs-White, Wolves to Nottingham Forest, £25m (twenty five million), rising to £42.5m (forty two point five million) with add ons .

    RM
    The Nottingham Forest transfers are relentless, there are a few I’ve not been able to keep up with, but let me report this one:

    Renan Lodi (yes, RENAN LODI!), Atlético de Madrid to Nottingham Forest, season long loan (with an option to buy for E30m).

    RM

    Re: Lodi, I said this about Gabriel Jesus too but it seems like he’s been around forever, before checking I’d have said he might be late 20s, but he’s actually only 24. One of the side effects of players starting younger I guess.


    RM

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Fri Sep 2 01:04:06 2022
    The party finally has ended and big surprise, the WWEpl spent the most of the big 5, like almost a billion more than anyone else ( who needs a Superliga). The Bundesliga the least, as they actually made a 45 mil profit according to these numbers. How
    do you go to a party and come back with more money, unless you are a drug dealer or a whore? Some big last minute hookups include Auba coming back home to London but not with old flame Arsenal, but to new hookup Chelsea and Akanji going to a stranger's
    house in Manchester. In this day and age, I think BVB did NOT get enough money for either Akanji nor for The Force of Nature. Then again they got plenty for the likes of Pulisic and Sancho and will probably get a lot for the Englishman Bellingham.
    Englishmen and Americans are worth more than Swiss or Nordics in the WWEpl, possibly due to them always being good guys while the Europeans are usually heels in the WWEpl.

    Whoever is managing the Bundesliga Rejects in the Fantasy thing, will actually have to manage the team, it seems like their are so many of them rejects now. Used to be so easy, I mean you could not spend the 100mil on a team before. It is difficult now,
    even guys like Xhaka, Gross and Firmino are scoring. I would think the Liga Portugal Bwin Rejects would be a decent/easy team to manage and actually get points as well?

    I thought the Spanish liga was broke again, but they came second in spending with a net loss/spend of 64M, the Spanish do like to Party. It seems this year was not as hyped as before, maybe I just am not interested enough anymore, but in the past it
    always seemed like the end of the transfer window was like a big election night production.

    Net spend of the top 5 leagues according to some random guy on the twitter:

    🔴 -€1.33 BILLION 💰 Premier League 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    🔴 -€64M 💰 La Liga 🇪🇸

    🟢 +€9M 💰 Serie A 🇮🇹

    🟢 +€41M 💰 Ligue 1 🇫🇷

    🟢 +€45M 💰 Bundesliga 🇩🇪


    On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 1:38:33 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 6:30:09 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 7:02:46 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 5:03:44 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 6:14:04 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:15:06 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:10:02 PM UTC+2, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:34:52 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Red Bull Leeds sent in total 81m€ to Salzburg and aquired Mo Camara, Rasmus Kristensen, and Brenden Aaronson in return.
    Jesse Marsch going with what he knows... (but all three are quality).

    Add the 30m€ for Adeyemi, and Salzburg are closing the gap to Ajax, Porto, and Benfica as the most profitable team on the
    European transfer market in the last decade.

    Looks like I was premature. Leeds signed Tyler Adams instead of Camara (Jesse Marsch still going with what he knows).
    But I'm pretty sure Camara is still Premier League-bound. Perhaps to Brighton?

    So I guess this begs the question is any of this 81mE going on improving the overall quality of the squad so that the club can take the next step and challenge for the later stages of the Champions League?

    All but impossible. The kind of players you'd need for that won't ever move to the Austrian League (or any similar league,
    for that matter).
    But not for lack of trying. Salzburg just spent 13m€ (Austrian Bundesliga record, closely edging out Aaronson)* on Lucas Gourna-Douath, French U-19 captain
    and at 18 years old already with two full Ligue 1 seasons for Saint-Étienne.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    *Salzburg now hold the Austrian Bundesliga record for top 18 most expensive transfers in, and top 25 most expensive transfers out.

    I can't help but marvel at the full out list:

    Brenden Aaronson 33m€ (Leeds)
    Karim Adeyemi 30m€ (Dortmund)
    Patson Daka 30m€ (Leicester)
    Naby Keïta 30m€ (Leipzig)
    Enock Mwepu 23m€ (Brighton)
    Sadio Mané 23m€ (Southampton)
    Dominik Szoboszlai 22m€ (Leipzig)
    Erling Haaland 20m€ (Dortmund)
    Duje Ćaleta-Car 19m€ (Marseille)
    Amadou Haidara 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Dayot Upamecano 19m€ (Leipzig)
    Rasmus Højlund 17m€ (Sturm Graz -> Atalanta)
    (+ bonuses, but those will probably be offset by FCKs cut)

    We bought him seven months ago from FC Copenhagen for 1.8m€.
    That's a slightly better yield than I get at the bank. I should buy a football player.

    Ciao,
    Werner
    Munas Dabbur 17m€ (Sevilla)
    Jonathan Soriano 15m€ (Beijing Guoan)
    Diadié Samassékou 14m€ (Hoffenheim)
    Rasmus Kristensen 13m€ (Leeds)
    Stefan Lainer 13m€ (Mönchengladbach)
    Hee-Chan Hwang 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Xaver Schlager 12m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Hannes Wolf 12m€ (Leipzig)
    Kevin Kampl 12m€ (Dortmund)
    Alan 11m€ (Guangzhou Evergrande)
    Valentino Lazaro 11m€ (Hertha BSC)
    Martin Hinteregger 11m€ (Augsburg)
    Marin Pongračić 9m€ (Wolfsburg)
    Takumi Minamino 9m€ (Liverpool)

    Maximilian Wöber 8m€ (Rapid -> Ajax, and he was brought back to Austria by Salzburg in the end)
    Morgan Gibbs-White, Wolves to Nottingham Forest, £25m (twenty five million), rising to £42.5m (forty two point five million) with add ons .

    RM
    The Nottingham Forest transfers are relentless, there are a few I’ve not been able to keep up with, but let me report this one:

    Renan Lodi (yes, RENAN LODI!), Atlético de Madrid to Nottingham Forest, season long loan (with an option to buy for E30m).

    RM
    Re: Lodi, I said this about Gabriel Jesus too but it seems like he’s been around forever, before checking I’d have said he might be late 20s, but he’s actually only 24. One of the side effects of players starting younger I guess.


    RM

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Fri Sep 2 02:52:42 2022
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 10:04:07 AM UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:
    The party finally has ended and big surprise, the WWEpl spent the most of the big 5, like almost a billion more than anyone
    else ( who needs a Superliga).

    The EPL certainly doesn't and that's why the idea is dead in the water.
    In reality, there is no such thing as the 'Big 5' anymore.
    It's EPL > La Liga > Serie A/Bundesliga > Ligue 1/Eredivisie/Primeira Liga

    The Bundesliga the least, as they actually made a 45 mil profit according to these numbers.
    How do you go to a party and come back with more money, unless you are a drug dealer or a whore? Some big last minute
    hookups include Auba coming back home to London but not with old flame Arsenal, but to new hookup Chelsea and Akanji
    going to a stranger's house in Manchester. In this day and age, I think BVB did NOT get enough money for either Akanji nor
    for The Force of Nature.

    What goes around comes around. Dortmund also didn't pay nearly enough money to sign TFON from Salzburg. In both cases,
    Haaland had a release clause with a fixed transfer fee in his contract.

    Then again they got plenty for the likes of Pulisic and Sancho and will probably get a lot for the
    Englishman Bellingham. Englishmen and Americans are worth more than Swiss or Nordics in the WWEpl, possibly due to
    them always being good guys while the Europeans are usually heels in the WWEpl.

    Englishmen are worth more because of the homegrown rule.


    Whoever is managing the Bundesliga Rejects in the Fantasy thing, will actually have to manage the team, it seems like their
    are so many of them rejects now. Used to be so easy, I mean you could not spend the 100mil on a team before. It is difficult
    now, even guys like Xhaka, Gross and Firmino are scoring. I would think the Liga Portugal Bwin Rejects would be a
    decent/easy team to manage and actually get points as well?

    I thought the Spanish liga was broke again, but they came second in spending with a net loss/spend of 64M, the Spanish do
    like to Party. It seems this year was not as hyped as before, maybe I just am not interested enough anymore, but in the past it
    always seemed like the end of the transfer window was like a big election night production.

    Net spend of the top 5 leagues according to some random guy on the twitter:

    🔴 -€1.33 BILLION 💰 Premier League 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    🔴 -€64M 💰 La Liga 🇪🇸

    🟢 +€9M 💰 Serie A 🇮🇹

    🟢 +€41M 💰 Ligue 1 🇫🇷

    🟢 +€45M 💰 Bundesliga 🇩🇪

    How did you get colours and emojis into Google Groups??!


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 2 03:48:55 2022
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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Mark on Fri Sep 2 04:00:50 2022
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 12:48:56 PM UTC+2, Mark wrote:
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 10:52:43 AM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 10:04:07 AM UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:


    🔴 -€1.33 BILLION 💰 Premier League 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    🔴 -€64M 💰 La Liga 🇪🇸

    🟢 +€9M 💰 Serie A 🇮🇹

    🟢 +€41M 💰 Ligue 1 🇫🇷

    🟢 +€45M 💰 Bundesliga 🇩🇪
    How did you get colours and emojis into Google Groups??!

    I was wondering that too.
    Also, are these figures correct? 1.33 billion is more than a billion more than 64 million.

    Yes, they are correct, as it's net spend. La Liga spent more than half a billion €, but also sold players
    for close to half a billion € (biggest sales to the Premier League: Casemiro, Isak, Guedes, Diego Carlos,
    Coutinho, Estupiñán, Aubemeyang, Renan Lodi).


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Fri Sep 2 06:58:04 2022
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 4:04:07 AM UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

    Whoever is managing the Bundesliga Rejects in the Fantasy thing, will actually have to manage the team, it seems like their
    are so many of them rejects now. Used to be so easy, I mean you could not spend the 100mil on a team before. It is difficult
    now, even guys like Xhaka, Gross and Firmino are scoring. I would think the Liga Portugal Bwin Rejects would be a
    decent/easy team to manage and actually get points as well?

    Serie A Rejects off to their worst start ever, with Salah being meh and Ronaldo relegated to the bench...
    Hopefully some reinforcements in Aubameyang and Gnonto (who are we kidding?), as well as Zakaria (Chelsea) and Arthur (Liverpool) (Who are we kidding x2: none of those players is getting any points)

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Mark on Fri Sep 2 06:45:55 2022
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 6:48:56 a.m. UTC-4, Mark wrote:
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 10:52:43 AM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 10:04:07 AM UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:


    🔴 -€1.33 BILLION 💰 Premier League 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    🔴 -€64M 💰 La Liga 🇪🇸

    🟢 +€9M 💰 Serie A 🇮🇹

    🟢 +€41M 💰 Ligue 1 🇫🇷

    🟢 +€45M 💰 Bundesliga 🇩🇪
    How did you get colours and emojis into Google Groups??!

    I was wondering that too.

    For years I am trying to bring colour and vitality to this dull black and white world of text only based groups that you all live in, you need to realize there is more out there, we can now fly over Oceans, drive under Channels and travel quickly over
    land without horses.
    It was a cut and paste from a Twit, I am guessing it was sent from a phone as a text/SMS message originally. I dont know if you can use a phone for Google Groups to check?

    Also, are these figures correct? 1.33 billion is more than a billion more than 64 million.

    It should read more than a Billion than the other leagues combined. For some reason I think the Portugal liga would be high in sales and low in purchases, though I read Draxler has finally left PSG for Benfica, maybe he might just get in the NT for
    Qatar.

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Fri Sep 2 07:07:38 2022
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 5:52:43 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 10:04:07 AM UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:
    The party finally has ended and big surprise, the WWEpl spent the most of the big 5, like almost a billion more than anyone
    else ( who needs a Superliga).
    The EPL certainly doesn't and that's why the idea is dead in the water.

    It was the mid-lower tier EPL fans that protested most vociferously against the Super League idea, and it's pretty clear why. Then again, it's not obvious that the ability to lure Isak, Scamacca and Kaladzic to battle it out for a Conference League spot
    was worth all that fuss.



    In reality, there is no such thing as the 'Big 5' anymore.
    It's EPL > La Liga > Serie A/Bundesliga > Ligue 1/Eredivisie/Primeira Liga

    If we're talking about financial muscle, I am not so sure that La Liga is that far ahead of SerieA/BLiga (even taking into account Barcelona's creative accounting)

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Sat Sep 3 12:08:51 2022
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 10:52:43 AM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 10:04:07 AM UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:
    The party finally has ended and big surprise, the WWEpl spent the most of the big 5, like almost a billion more than anyone
    else ( who needs a Superliga).
    The EPL certainly doesn't and that's why the idea is dead in the water.
    In reality, there is no such thing as the 'Big 5' anymore.
    It's EPL > La Liga > Serie A/Bundesliga > Ligue 1/Eredivisie/Primeira Liga

    Yeah, they just made this point on BT Sport’s Serie A coverage. Leeds, who finished in the lowest survival place in the EPL, can afford to bid more on a player than AC Milan, who won Serie A. Some say that makes EPL a Super League in all but name, I
    say it means football is dysfunctional.

    RM

    The Bundesliga the least, as they actually made a 45 mil profit according to these numbers.
    How do you go to a party and come back with more money, unless you are a drug dealer or a whore? Some big last minute
    hookups include Auba coming back home to London but not with old flame Arsenal, but to new hookup Chelsea and Akanji
    going to a stranger's house in Manchester. In this day and age, I think BVB did NOT get enough money for either Akanji nor
    for The Force of Nature.
    What goes around comes around. Dortmund also didn't pay nearly enough money to sign TFON from Salzburg. In both cases,
    Haaland had a release clause with a fixed transfer fee in his contract.
    Then again they got plenty for the likes of Pulisic and Sancho and will probably get a lot for the
    Englishman Bellingham. Englishmen and Americans are worth more than Swiss or Nordics in the WWEpl, possibly due to
    them always being good guys while the Europeans are usually heels in the WWEpl.
    Englishmen are worth more because of the homegrown rule.

    Whoever is managing the Bundesliga Rejects in the Fantasy thing, will actually have to manage the team, it seems like their
    are so many of them rejects now. Used to be so easy, I mean you could not spend the 100mil on a team before. It is difficult
    now, even guys like Xhaka, Gross and Firmino are scoring. I would think the Liga Portugal Bwin Rejects would be a
    decent/easy team to manage and actually get points as well?

    I thought the Spanish liga was broke again, but they came second in spending with a net loss/spend of 64M, the Spanish do
    like to Party. It seems this year was not as hyped as before, maybe I just am not interested enough anymore, but in the past it
    always seemed like the end of the transfer window was like a big election night production.

    Net spend of the top 5 leagues according to some random guy on the twitter:

    🔴 -€1.33 BILLION 💰 Premier League 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    🔴 -€64M 💰 La Liga 🇪🇸

    🟢 +€9M 💰 Serie A 🇮🇹

    🟢 +€41M 💰 Ligue 1 🇫🇷

    🟢 +€45M 💰 Bundesliga 🇩🇪
    How did you get colours and emojis into Google Groups??!


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Mark on Mon Sep 5 00:35:14 2022
    On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 10:45:33 AM UTC+1, Mark wrote:
    On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 8:07:48 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 6:00:28 PM UTC+2, Mark wrote:

    Carina Wenninger from FC Bayern Frauen to Roma. Not a single player left in Bayern Munchen's squad that started the 2016 Championship winning season. Where's the loyalty in football these days?
    You realise (actually I'm pretty sure you don't) that Wenninger has been *loaned out* to Roma by Bayern as a kind of thank you for her
    long years of service, because Bayern can't give her first-team minutes anymore, and she wanted to play in one more foreign country before the
    end of her career.


    No I didn't know that. I'm still puzzled about why so many players have come and gone at Bayern Munchen in such a short time though. It's understandable at a small club that can't keep it's best players because richer clubs can offer them higher wages,
    but why is this happening at Bayern Munchen?

    Sonia somebody (I've forgotten her name), from ZNK Split to Turbine Potsdam.

    Are the transfer windows the same in women's football? I only found out about that one yesterday, it may have happened a few days ago though.

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