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  • [R] Interconfederational WCQ Playoff Two: Costa Rica-New Zealand 6/14/2

    From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 14 00:09:16 2022
    Winner gets the Group of Death: Spain, Germany, and Japan.

    Mike

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Tue Jun 14 04:33:26 2022
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 8:09:17 AM UTC+1, Michael Falkner wrote:
    Winner gets the Group of Death: Spain, Germany, and Japan.

    Mike

    Come on New Zealand! Oceania deserves at least 1 team at the World Cup! It makes absolutely no sense for any confederation not to have even 1 berth!

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Mark on Tue Jun 14 09:16:57 2022
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 7:33:27 a.m. UTC-4, Mark wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 8:09:17 AM UTC+1, Michael Falkner wrote:
    Winner gets the Group of Death: Spain, Germany, and Japan.

    Mike
    Come on New Zealand! Oceania deserves at least 1 team at the World Cup! It makes absolutely no sense for any confederation not to have even 1 berth!

    But wait Oceania already has the Aussies.

    Like yesterday with Peru, Costa Rica are solid favourites, so hopefully they can learn something from yesterdays match. But CONCACAF teams tend to Rock a lot more than CONMEBOL teams, so they will not be overly cautious, cus that is not how we do things
    in CONCACAF.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Tue Jun 14 09:31:53 2022
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 9:16:59 AM UTC-7, Binder Dundat wrote:

    But wait Oceania already has the Aussies.

    Australia moved to the Asian confederation.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 14 11:14:40 2022
    Heh.

    Costa Rica is at least on the way. Early goal, and they're up 1-0 on New Zealand in the 12th minute.

    Mike

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Tue Jun 14 11:05:32 2022
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 12:16:59 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 7:33:27 a.m. UTC-4, Mark wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 8:09:17 AM UTC+1, Michael Falkner wrote:
    Winner gets the Group of Death: Spain, Germany, and Japan.

    Mike
    Come on New Zealand! Oceania deserves at least 1 team at the World Cup! It makes absolutely no sense for any confederation not to have even 1 berth!
    But wait Oceania already has the Aussies.

    Like yesterday with Peru, Costa Rica are solid favourites, so hopefully they can learn something from yesterdays match. But CONCACAF teams tend to Rock a lot more than CONMEBOL teams, so they will not be overly cautious, cus that is not how we do
    things in CONCACAF.
    check.
    We already are projecting Costa Rica to win the Qatar World Cup.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Jun 14 11:48:39 2022
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 11:46:26 AM UTC-7, Real Mardin wrote:

    NZ “equaliser “ ruled out by VAR due to a foul which in real time just seemed like the Costa Rica player fell over but on the replayed looked more like a rugby challenge by the NZ player. Just goes to show the benefit of VAR when used properly.

    And I can see why it was not called live.

    But clear foul (could've even been cardable!).

    1-0 Costa Rica, basically halftime.

    Mike

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Tue Jun 14 11:37:39 2022
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 7:14:41 PM UTC+1, Michael Falkner wrote:
    Heh.

    Costa Rica is at least on the way. Early goal, and they're up 1-0 on New Zealand in the 12th minute.

    Mike

    Though I’m supporting Costa Rica I have to say that since the goal New Zealand have looked the better side.


    RM

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Jun 14 11:45:08 2022
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 11:37:40 AM UTC-7, Real Mardin wrote:

    Though I’m supporting Costa Rica I have to say that since the goal New Zealand have looked the better side.

    They have, but a rightful VAR wipe-off leaves the match 1-0 to Costa Rica.

    I don't see it staying that way, however. New Zealand has had far too much play deep in Costa Rica's end for another goal not to be scored.

    Mike

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Tue Jun 14 12:00:10 2022
    Different match from yesterday, both teams going for it. Can see New Zealand getting one back-or giving up a counter attack goal-the way it is going.

    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 2:48:41 p.m. UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 11:46:26 AM UTC-7, Real Mardin wrote:

    NZ “equaliser “ ruled out by VAR due to a foul which in real time just seemed like the Costa Rica player fell over but on the replayed looked more like a rugby challenge by the NZ player. Just goes to show the benefit of VAR when used properly.
    And I can see why it was not called live.

    But clear foul (could've even been cardable!).

    1-0 Costa Rica, basically halftime.

    Mike

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Jun 14 11:46:25 2022
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 7:37:40 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 7:14:41 PM UTC+1, Michael Falkner wrote:
    Heh.

    Costa Rica is at least on the way. Early goal, and they're up 1-0 on New Zealand in the 12th minute.

    Mike
    Though I’m supporting Costa Rica I have to say that since the goal New Zealand have looked the better side.


    RM

    NZ “equaliser “ ruled out by VAR due to a foul which in real time just seemed like the Costa Rica player fell over but on the replayed looked more like a rugby challenge by the NZ player. Just goes to show the benefit of VAR when used properly.


    RM

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 14 12:23:17 2022
    FUCKING BOOK SOMEBODY FOR THESE COSTA RICAN CHALLENGES!!!

    1-0 CRC 63' Jumped the gun a bit in the recent reply.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 14 12:21:23 2022
    Why am I getting the feeling that, if this match ends 1-0 to Costa Rica, the New Zealand coach is going to take a massive ban for decking this referee?

    1-0 CRC 68'

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 14 12:30:24 2022
    OK, THIS MATCH IS A FIX.

    Referee lets a red-card elbow to the head go and then books the New Zealand captain for the dissent coming afterward.

    I think it's clear who FIFA wants to advance here, and it ain't fucking New Zealand.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 14 12:42:19 2022
    And New Zealand gave them the excuse two minutes before ignoring the elbow to the head by going studs and having one of theirs sent off.

    Congratulations Costa Rica.

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Tue Jun 14 12:43:58 2022
    Even as a CONCACAFian, I kinda hope New Zealand ties this up and they keep coming close, but not yet. maybe 10 mins left

    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 3:30:25 p.m. UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:
    OK, THIS MATCH IS A FIX.

    Referee lets a red-card elbow to the head go and then books the New Zealand captain for the dissent coming afterward.

    I think it's clear who FIFA wants to advance here, and it ain't fucking New Zealand.

    Mike

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Tue Jun 14 12:59:54 2022
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 8:44:00 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    Even as a CONCACAFian, I kinda hope New Zealand ties this up and they keep coming close, but not yet. maybe 10 mins left
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 3:30:25 p.m. UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:
    OK, THIS MATCH IS A FIX.

    Referee lets a red-card elbow to the head go and then books the New Zealand captain for the dissent coming afterward.

    I think it's clear who FIFA wants to advance here, and it ain't fucking New Zealand.

    Mike

    So including the UEFA playoff the other week I’ve watched three of this year’s qualifying playoffs and I can’t help but think that the less deserving team won on each occasion. Really think they should go back to two leg playoffs, less chance of
    the poorer team getting lucky on the night.

    RM

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Jun 14 13:11:08 2022
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 3:59:55 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 8:44:00 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    Even as a CONCACAFian, I kinda hope New Zealand ties this up and they keep coming close, but not yet. maybe 10 mins left
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 3:30:25 p.m. UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:
    OK, THIS MATCH IS A FIX.

    Referee lets a red-card elbow to the head go and then books the New Zealand captain for the dissent coming afterward.

    I think it's clear who FIFA wants to advance here, and it ain't fucking New Zealand.

    Mike
    So including the UEFA playoff the other week I’ve watched three of this year’s qualifying playoffs and I can’t help but think that the less deserving team won on each occasion. Really think they should go back to two leg playoffs, less chance of
    the poorer team getting lucky on the night.

    RM

    That might help, but speaking as a CONCAFian again, nobody wants to go to Central America to play a WC qualifier, let alone play off.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 14 19:43:42 2022
    I would start being very careful in this World Cup, people, if you look at your country's matches and see a Middle Eastern bloc of officials.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 14 19:30:31 2022
    I shut off the match after it was clear that not only did FIFA Blatter New Zealand, but then New Zealand gave the fix plausible deniability with the sending off.

    Mike

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Wed Jun 15 04:28:47 2022
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 8:59:55 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 8:44:00 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    Even as a CONCACAFian, I kinda hope New Zealand ties this up and they keep coming close, but not yet. maybe 10 mins left
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 3:30:25 p.m. UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:
    OK, THIS MATCH IS A FIX.

    Referee lets a red-card elbow to the head go and then books the New Zealand captain for the dissent coming afterward.

    I think it's clear who FIFA wants to advance here, and it ain't fucking New Zealand.

    Mike
    So including the UEFA playoff the other week I’ve watched three of this year’s qualifying playoffs and I can’t help but think that the less deserving team won on each occasion. Really think they should go back to two leg playoffs, less chance of
    the poorer team getting lucky on the night.

    RM

    Why are they being played as a single match? Is this because of the Covid 19 pandemic and all the delays that's caused?

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Mark on Wed Jun 15 05:19:11 2022
    On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 4:28:48 AM UTC-7, Mark wrote:

    Why are they being played as a single match? Is this because of the Covid 19 pandemic and all the delays that's caused?

    Yep -- and it's also the reason they were played in June and not in March.

    Mike

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