• Anyone up for sophisticated and unsophisticated Eurocrotto predictions

    From MH@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 7 17:49:51 2022
    So we can't really do a proper Eurocrotto prediction this WC, since that involves predicting the worst UEFA performers BEFORE the draw is made. I propose we do the following

    1) Predict the bottom 6 UEFA performers. Scoring 3 points for last
    place in group, 2 for second last, and 1 for advancing but going out in
    the round of 16. Ties broken based on A) total points (incl. round of
    16 - 1 pt for loss on pens) B) GD C) goals scored.

    2) Assign a probability to each UEFA team of not making the round of 16.


    Entries by July 1. Second call for revised entries in light of any
    injuries, collapses in form and whatever, up until the first match.

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 8 10:23:30 2022
    On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 12:49:56 AM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    So we can't really do a proper Eurocrotto prediction this WC, since that involves predicting the worst UEFA performers BEFORE the draw is made. I propose we do the following

    1) Predict the bottom 6 UEFA performers. Scoring 3 points for last
    place in group, 2 for second last, and 1 for advancing but going out in
    the round of 16. Ties broken based on A) total points (incl. round of
    16 - 1 pt for loss on pens) B) GD C) goals scored.

    2) Assign a probability to each UEFA team of not making the round of 16.


    Entries by July 1. Second call for revised entries in light of any
    injuries, collapses in form and whatever, up until the first match.

    I don’t recall playing eurocrotto before but if there was ever a World Cup that called for a celebration of “crottoness” then surely it’s this one. I’m in!


    RM

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Wed Jun 8 14:53:55 2022
    On 2022-06-08 11:23, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 12:49:56 AM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    So we can't really do a proper Eurocrotto prediction this WC, since that
    involves predicting the worst UEFA performers BEFORE the draw is made. I
    propose we do the following

    1) Predict the bottom 6 UEFA performers. Scoring 3 points for last
    place in group, 2 for second last, and 1 for advancing but going out in
    the round of 16. Ties broken based on A) total points (incl. round of
    16 - 1 pt for loss on pens) B) GD C) goals scored.

    2) Assign a probability to each UEFA team of not making the round of 16.


    Entries by July 1. Second call for revised entries in light of any
    injuries, collapses in form and whatever, up until the first match.

    I don’t recall playing eurocrotto before but if there was ever a World Cup that called for a celebration of “crottoness” then surely it’s this one. I’m in!

    Poland gathering votes today, I would think !



    RM

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 8 14:02:49 2022
    On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 9:53:59 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-06-08 11:23, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 12:49:56 AM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    So we can't really do a proper Eurocrotto prediction this WC, since that >> involves predicting the worst UEFA performers BEFORE the draw is made. I >> propose we do the following

    1) Predict the bottom 6 UEFA performers. Scoring 3 points for last
    place in group, 2 for second last, and 1 for advancing but going out in >> the round of 16. Ties broken based on A) total points (incl. round of
    16 - 1 pt for loss on pens) B) GD C) goals scored.

    2) Assign a probability to each UEFA team of not making the round of 16. >>

    Entries by July 1. Second call for revised entries in light of any
    injuries, collapses in form and whatever, up until the first match.

    I don’t recall playing eurocrotto before but if there was ever a World Cup that called for a celebration of “crottoness” then surely it’s this one. I’m in!
    Poland gathering votes today, I would think !



    RM

    Only just seen the result after reading your post, but I'm just working through my predictions and had literally just picked Poland to finish last in their group. That was more because they always seem to underachieve in World Cups, plus I think Saudi
    Arabia could be something of a dark horse playing close to home.


    RM

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Wed Jun 8 15:33:08 2022
    On 2022-06-08 15:02, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 9:53:59 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-06-08 11:23, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 12:49:56 AM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    So we can't really do a proper Eurocrotto prediction this WC, since that >>>> involves predicting the worst UEFA performers BEFORE the draw is made. I >>>> propose we do the following

    1) Predict the bottom 6 UEFA performers. Scoring 3 points for last
    place in group, 2 for second last, and 1 for advancing but going out in >>>> the round of 16. Ties broken based on A) total points (incl. round of
    16 - 1 pt for loss on pens) B) GD C) goals scored.

    2) Assign a probability to each UEFA team of not making the round of 16. >>>>

    Entries by July 1. Second call for revised entries in light of any
    injuries, collapses in form and whatever, up until the first match.

    I don’t recall playing eurocrotto before but if there was ever a World Cup that called for a celebration of “crottoness” then surely it’s this one. I’m in!
    Poland gathering votes today, I would think !



    RM

    Only just seen the result after reading your post, but I'm just working through my predictions and had literally just picked Poland to finish last in their group. That was more because they always seem to underachieve in World Cups, plus I think Saudi
    Arabia could be something of a dark horse playing close to home.

    Can't really accuse them of underachieving from 1974 to 1986. 4 world
    cups in a row with two third places, one top 8 and one top 16. Since
    then, yeah, a whole lot of non-qualifications plus first round exits.




    RM

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 9 14:03:53 2022
    My unsophisticated entries are as follows (in order of "crottoness"):


    1. Switzerland
    2. Poland
    3. Serbia
    4. Wales
    5. Belgium
    6. Germany

    Explanatory notes:

    1. I don't really consider Serbia to be "crotto", I actually think they have the potential to do well. That said, I can forecast a scenario where Brazil have already guaranteed first place by the time they come to play Cameroon in their final group game.
    If they pick a weakened team or take things easy that could let Cameroon in as the second placed side at Serbia's expense. So I see Serbia more as a potential victim of circumstance rather than a genuine "eurocrotto" side.

    2. Belgium are clearly not "eurocrotto" under usual circumstances but I forecast them to get Spain in the Round of 16 and someone has to lose. So it's more that Belgium has a tough draw rather than them being a poor team.

    3. Germany I'm sticking my neck out with, just get the impression there is an upset coming their way, I'm probably wrong.

    Sophisticated entry requires more consideration.


    RM

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Fri Jun 10 05:48:57 2022
    On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 5:03:55 p.m. UTC-4, Real Mardin wrote:
    My unsophisticated entries are as follows (in order of "crottoness"):


    1. Switzerland
    2. Poland
    3. Serbia
    4. Wales
    5. Belgium
    6. Germany

    Explanatory notes:

    1. I don't really consider Serbia to be "crotto", I actually think they have the potential to do well. That said, I can forecast a scenario where Brazil have already guaranteed first place by the time they come to play Cameroon in their final group
    game. If they pick a weakened team or take things easy that could let Cameroon in as the second placed side at Serbia's expense. So I see Serbia more as a potential victim of circumstance rather than a genuine "eurocrotto" side.

    2. Belgium are clearly not "eurocrotto" under usual circumstances but I forecast them to get Spain in the Round of 16 and someone has to lose. So it's more that Belgium has a tough draw rather than them being a poor team.

    3. Germany I'm sticking my neck out with, just get the impression there is an upset coming their way, I'm probably wrong.

    Sophisticated entry requires more consideration.


    RM

    Switzerland Serbia Poland England Belgium Portugal

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 13 23:35:50 2022
    On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 2:49:56 AM UTC+3, MH wrote:
    So we can't really do a proper Eurocrotto prediction this WC, since that involves predicting the worst UEFA performers BEFORE the draw is made. I propose we do the following

    For some reason I'm finding it difficult to get excited about this World Cup. Maybe it's the winter timing? Or maybe something else...



    1) Predict the bottom 6 UEFA performers. Scoring 3 points for last
    place in group, 2 for second last, and 1 for advancing but going out in
    the round of 16. Ties broken based on A) total points (incl. round of
    16 - 1 pt for loss on pens) B) GD C) goals scored.

    A bit early for this, no? Anyway, my 6 are:

    Wales
    Belgium (they're due for an "end of the golden generation" crash)
    Serbia
    Poland
    Switzerland, I guess
    Germany (let's make it a bit spicy)






    2) Assign a probability to each UEFA team of not making the round of 16.


    Entries by July 1. Second call for revised entries in light of any
    injuries, collapses in form and whatever, up until the first match.

    Way too much sophistication in the middle of the summer, and with a lot of football still to play (won't the predictions be part of the SophCon anyways?)

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Tue Jun 14 09:10:13 2022
    On 2022-06-14 00:35, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 2:49:56 AM UTC+3, MH wrote:
    So we can't really do a proper Eurocrotto prediction this WC, since that
    involves predicting the worst UEFA performers BEFORE the draw is made. I
    propose we do the following

    For some reason I'm finding it difficult to get excited about this World Cup. Maybe it's the winter timing? Or maybe something else...



    1) Predict the bottom 6 UEFA performers. Scoring 3 points for last
    place in group, 2 for second last, and 1 for advancing but going out in
    the round of 16. Ties broken based on A) total points (incl. round of
    16 - 1 pt for loss on pens) B) GD C) goals scored.

    A bit early for this, no? Anyway, my 6 are:

    Wales
    Belgium (they're due for an "end of the golden generation" crash)

    They have a pretty easy group though. Canada look very unimpressive
    these days, especially yesterday (in appalling conditions though).

    Serbia
    Poland
    Switzerland, I guess
    Germany (let's make it a bit spicy)






    2) Assign a probability to each UEFA team of not making the round of 16.


    Entries by July 1. Second call for revised entries in light of any
    injuries, collapses in form and whatever, up until the first match.

    Way too much sophistication in the middle of the summer, and with a lot of football still to play (won't the predictions be part of the SophCon anyways?)

    Would not be quite the same since only the UEFA members would be
    predicted, but you are right,the similarity might make this redundant.


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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 17 04:39:35 2022
    On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 12:49:56 AM UTC+1, MH wrote:

    1) Predict the bottom 6 UEFA performers. Scoring 3 points for last
    place in group, 2 for second last, and 1 for advancing but going out in
    the round of 16. Ties broken based on A) total points (incl. round of
    16 - 1 pt for loss on pens) B) GD C) goals scored.

    Poland
    Serbia
    Wales
    Croatia
    Switzerland
    Portugal

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Mark on Fri Jun 17 10:53:59 2022
    On 2022-06-17 05:39, Mark wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 12:49:56 AM UTC+1, MH wrote:

    1) Predict the bottom 6 UEFA performers. Scoring 3 points for last
    place in group, 2 for second last, and 1 for advancing but going out in
    the round of 16. Ties broken based on A) total points (incl. round of
    16 - 1 pt for loss on pens) B) GD C) goals scored.

    Poland
    Serbia
    Wales
    Croatia
    Switzerland
    Portugal

    Portugal is a brave one. They seem to me to be the most likely new
    winner of the cup, since they have a lot of talent in depth.

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 22 14:34:31 2022
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 4:10:17 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-06-14 00:35, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 2:49:56 AM UTC+3, MH wrote:
    So we can't really do a proper Eurocrotto prediction this WC, since that >> involves predicting the worst UEFA performers BEFORE the draw is made. I >> propose we do the following

    For some reason I'm finding it difficult to get excited about this World Cup. Maybe it's the winter timing? Or maybe something else...



    1) Predict the bottom 6 UEFA performers. Scoring 3 points for last
    place in group, 2 for second last, and 1 for advancing but going out in
    the round of 16. Ties broken based on A) total points (incl. round of
    16 - 1 pt for loss on pens) B) GD C) goals scored.

    A bit early for this, no? Anyway, my 6 are:

    Wales
    Belgium (they're due for an "end of the golden generation" crash)
    They have a pretty easy group though. Canada look very unimpressive
    these days, especially yesterday (in appalling conditions though).
    Serbia
    Poland
    Switzerland, I guess
    Germany (let's make it a bit spicy)






    2) Assign a probability to each UEFA team of not making the round of 16. >>

    Entries by July 1. Second call for revised entries in light of any
    injuries, collapses in form and whatever, up until the first match.

    Way too much sophistication in the middle of the summer, and with a lot of football still to play (won't the predictions be part of the SophCon anyways?)
    Would not be quite the same since only the UEFA members would be
    predicted, but you are right,the similarity might make this redundant.

    I disagree and enclose my "sophisticated Eurocrotto" entry below (in group order):

    Netherlands 0.05

    England 0.21

    Wales 0.5

    Poland 0.5

    France 0.2

    Denmark 0.2

    Germany 0.05

    Spain 0.1

    Belgium 0.15

    Croatia 0.25

    Serbia 0.5

    Switzerland 0.5

    Portugal 0.1


    RM

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Mon Nov 14 09:55:17 2022
    On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 10:34:34 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 4:10:17 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-06-14 00:35, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 2:49:56 AM UTC+3, MH wrote:
    So we can't really do a proper Eurocrotto prediction this WC, since that >> involves predicting the worst UEFA performers BEFORE the draw is made. I >> propose we do the following

    For some reason I'm finding it difficult to get excited about this World Cup. Maybe it's the winter timing? Or maybe something else...



    1) Predict the bottom 6 UEFA performers. Scoring 3 points for last
    place in group, 2 for second last, and 1 for advancing but going out in >> the round of 16. Ties broken based on A) total points (incl. round of
    16 - 1 pt for loss on pens) B) GD C) goals scored.

    A bit early for this, no? Anyway, my 6 are:

    Wales
    Belgium (they're due for an "end of the golden generation" crash)
    They have a pretty easy group though. Canada look very unimpressive
    these days, especially yesterday (in appalling conditions though).
    Serbia
    Poland
    Switzerland, I guess
    Germany (let's make it a bit spicy)






    2) Assign a probability to each UEFA team of not making the round of 16. >>

    Entries by July 1. Second call for revised entries in light of any
    injuries, collapses in form and whatever, up until the first match.

    Way too much sophistication in the middle of the summer, and with a lot of football still to play (won't the predictions be part of the SophCon anyways?)
    Would not be quite the same since only the UEFA members would be
    predicted, but you are right,the similarity might make this redundant.
    I disagree and enclose my "sophisticated Eurocrotto" entry below (in group order):

    Netherlands 0.05

    England 0.21

    Wales 0.5

    Poland 0.5

    France 0.2

    Denmark 0.2

    Germany 0.05

    Spain 0.1

    Belgium 0.15

    Croatia 0.25

    Serbia 0.5

    Switzerland 0.5

    Portugal 0.1


    RM

    So I've won the "sophisticated Eurocrotto" in light of their being no other entries, yes?


    RM

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Nov 15 16:59:50 2022
    On 2022-11-14 10:55, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 10:34:34 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 4:10:17 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-06-14 00:35, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 2:49:56 AM UTC+3, MH wrote:
    So we can't really do a proper Eurocrotto prediction this WC, since that >>>>> involves predicting the worst UEFA performers BEFORE the draw is made. I >>>>> propose we do the following

    For some reason I'm finding it difficult to get excited about this World Cup. Maybe it's the winter timing? Or maybe something else...



    1) Predict the bottom 6 UEFA performers. Scoring 3 points for last
    place in group, 2 for second last, and 1 for advancing but going out in >>>>> the round of 16. Ties broken based on A) total points (incl. round of >>>>> 16 - 1 pt for loss on pens) B) GD C) goals scored.

    A bit early for this, no? Anyway, my 6 are:

    Wales
    Belgium (they're due for an "end of the golden generation" crash)
    They have a pretty easy group though. Canada look very unimpressive
    these days, especially yesterday (in appalling conditions though).
    Serbia
    Poland
    Switzerland, I guess
    Germany (let's make it a bit spicy)






    2) Assign a probability to each UEFA team of not making the round of 16. >>>>>

    Entries by July 1. Second call for revised entries in light of any
    injuries, collapses in form and whatever, up until the first match.

    Way too much sophistication in the middle of the summer, and with a lot of football still to play (won't the predictions be part of the SophCon anyways?)
    Would not be quite the same since only the UEFA members would be
    predicted, but you are right,the similarity might make this redundant.
    I disagree and enclose my "sophisticated Eurocrotto" entry below (in group order):

    Netherlands 0.05

    England 0.21

    Wales 0.5

    Poland 0.5

    France 0.2

    Denmark 0.2

    Germany 0.05

    Spain 0.1

    Belgium 0.15

    Croatia 0.25

    Serbia 0.5

    Switzerland 0.5

    Portugal 0.1


    RM

    So I've won the "sophisticated Eurocrotto" in light of their being no other entries, yes?

    Please enter the official SPC !

    As for the most likely Euros to go out:

    Wales 0.55
    Poland 0.5
    Switzerland .45
    Serbia .45
    Germany .37




    RM

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Sun Nov 27 07:17:08 2022
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 2:35:52 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

    1) Predict the bottom 6 UEFA performers. Scoring 3 points for last
    place in group, 2 for second last, and 1 for advancing but going out in
    the round of 16. Ties broken based on A) total points (incl. round of
    16 - 1 pt for loss on pens) B) GD C) goals scored.
    A bit early for this, no? Anyway, my 6 are:

    Wales
    Belgium (they're due for an "end of the golden generation" crash)
    Serbia
    Poland
    Switzerland, I guess
    Germany (let's make it a bit spicy)

    This is not looking too bad at the moment. Is anybody keeping count?

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Fri Dec 2 16:55:49 2022
    On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 10:03:55 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    My unsophisticated entries are as follows (in order of "crottoness"):


    1. Switzerland
    2. Poland
    3. Serbia
    4. Wales
    5. Belgium
    6. Germany

    Explanatory notes:

    1. I don't really consider Serbia to be "crotto", I actually think they have the potential to do well. That said, I can forecast a scenario where Brazil have already guaranteed first place by the time they come to play Cameroon in their final group
    game. If they pick a weakened team or take things easy that could let Cameroon in as the second placed side at Serbia's expense. So I see Serbia more as a potential victim of circumstance rather than a genuine "eurocrotto" side.

    2. Belgium are clearly not "eurocrotto" under usual circumstances but I forecast them to get Spain in the Round of 16 and someone has to lose. So it's more that Belgium has a tough draw rather than them being a poor team.

    3. Germany I'm sticking my neck out with, just get the impression there is an upset coming their way, I'm probably wrong.

    Sophisticated entry requires more consideration.


    RM


    10 points so far.


    RM

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Sat Dec 3 04:22:56 2022
    On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 12:55:50 AM UTC, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 10:03:55 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    My unsophisticated entries are as follows (in order of "crottoness"):


    1. Switzerland
    2. Poland
    3. Serbia
    4. Wales
    5. Belgium
    6. Germany

    Explanatory notes:

    1. I don't really consider Serbia to be "crotto", I actually think they have the potential to do well. That said, I can forecast a scenario where Brazil have already guaranteed first place by the time they come to play Cameroon in their final group
    game. If they pick a weakened team or take things easy that could let Cameroon in as the second placed side at Serbia's expense. So I see Serbia more as a potential victim of circumstance rather than a genuine "eurocrotto" side.

    2. Belgium are clearly not "eurocrotto" under usual circumstances but I forecast them to get Spain in the Round of 16 and someone has to lose. So it's more that Belgium has a tough draw rather than them being a poor team.

    3. Germany I'm sticking my neck out with, just get the impression there is an upset coming their way, I'm probably wrong.

    Sophisticated entry requires more consideration.


    RM
    10 points so far.


    RM

    Germany going out in the 1st round has probably ruined my chances in this and the SPC. Not only did I not pick Germany in this, but in the SPC, I gave Germany a probability of 0.03 of going out in the 1st round, and gave Japan a probability of 0.97! I'm
    doomed.

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 3 13:11:43 2022
    On 2022-11-15 16:59, MH wrote:
    On 2022-11-14 10:55, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 10:34:34 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 4:10:17 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2022-06-14 00:35, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 2:49:56 AM UTC+3, MH wrote:
    So we can't really do a proper Eurocrotto prediction this WC,
    since that
    involves predicting the worst UEFA performers BEFORE the draw is
    made. I
    propose we do the following

    For some reason I'm finding it difficult to get excited about this
    World Cup. Maybe it's the winter timing? Or maybe something else...



    1) Predict the bottom 6 UEFA performers. Scoring 3 points for last >>>>>> place in group, 2 for second last, and 1 for advancing but going
    out in
    the round of 16. Ties broken based on A) total points (incl. round of >>>>>> 16 - 1 pt for loss on pens) B) GD C) goals scored.

    A bit early for this, no? Anyway, my 6 are:

    Wales
    Belgium (they're due for an "end of the golden generation" crash)
    They have a pretty easy group though. Canada look very unimpressive
    these days, especially yesterday (in appalling conditions though).
    Serbia
    Poland
    Switzerland, I guess
    Germany (let's make it a bit spicy)






    2) Assign a probability to each UEFA team of not making the round
    of 16.


    Entries by July 1. Second call for revised entries in light of any >>>>>> injuries, collapses in form and whatever, up until the first match. >>>>>
    Way too much sophistication in the middle of the summer, and with a
    lot of football still to play (won't the predictions be part of the
    SophCon anyways?)
    Would not be quite the same since only the UEFA members would be
    predicted, but you are right,the similarity might make this redundant.
    I disagree and enclose my "sophisticated Eurocrotto" entry below (in
    group order):

    Netherlands 0.05

    England 0.21

    Wales 0.5

    Poland 0.5

    France 0.2

    Denmark 0.2

    Germany 0.05

    Spain 0.1

    Belgium 0.15

    Croatia 0.25

    Serbia 0.5

    Switzerland 0.5

    Portugal 0.1


    RM

    So I've won the "sophisticated Eurocrotto" in light of their being no
    other entries, yes?

    Please enter the official SPC !

    As for the most likely Euros to go out:

    Wales 0.55
    Poland 0.5
    Switzerland .45
    Serbia .45
    Germany .37

    3 did go out. Poland and Switzerland did not.

    Looking at my SPC entry, I was way off on Belgium (0.2 to go out) and
    Denmark at (.28 to go out)





    RM


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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 18 14:57:59 2022
    Unsophisticated Eurocrotto final scores:

    Real Mardin:

    Switzerland (1pt)
    Poland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Wales (3pts)
    Belgium (2pts)
    Germany (2pts)

    Total: 12pts


    Binder Dundat:

    Switzerland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Poland (1pt)
    England (0)
    Belgium (2pts)
    Portugal (0)


    Total: 7pts

    Futbolmetrix:

    Entered the same entry as Real Mardin - so 12 pts.


    Mark:

    Poland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Wales (3pts)
    Croatia (0)
    Switzerland (1pt)
    Portugal (0)

    Total: 8pts

    1st / 2nd Real Mardin 12pts *
    1st / 2nd Futbolmetrix 12pts *
    3rd Mark 8pts
    4th Bider Dundat 7pts


    * - Real Mardin and Futbolmetrix had the same entry so share the honours as Unsophisticated Eurocrotto Champions 2022!

    RM

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Mon Dec 19 01:14:28 2022
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:58:01 PM UTC, Real Mardin wrote:
    Unsophisticated Eurocrotto final scores:

    Real Mardin:

    Switzerland (1pt)
    Poland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Wales (3pts)
    Belgium (2pts)
    Germany (2pts)

    Total: 12pts


    Binder Dundat:

    Switzerland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Poland (1pt)
    England (0)
    Belgium (2pts)
    Portugal (0)


    Total: 7pts

    Futbolmetrix:

    Entered the same entry as Real Mardin - so 12 pts.


    Mark:

    Poland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Wales (3pts)
    Croatia (0)
    Switzerland (1pt)
    Portugal (0)

    Total: 8pts

    1st / 2nd Real Mardin 12pts *
    1st / 2nd Futbolmetrix 12pts *
    3rd Mark 8pts
    4th Bider Dundat 7pts


    Top 3. Better than I expected after picking Portugal and Croatia and not picking Germany.

    Was there a winner for the sophisticated Eurocrotto competition?

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Mark on Mon Dec 19 14:50:18 2022
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 9:14:29 AM UTC, Mark wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:58:01 PM UTC, Real Mardin wrote:
    Unsophisticated Eurocrotto final scores:

    Real Mardin:

    Switzerland (1pt)
    Poland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Wales (3pts)
    Belgium (2pts)
    Germany (2pts)

    Total: 12pts


    Binder Dundat:

    Switzerland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Poland (1pt)
    England (0)
    Belgium (2pts)
    Portugal (0)


    Total: 7pts

    Futbolmetrix:

    Entered the same entry as Real Mardin - so 12 pts.


    Mark:

    Poland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Wales (3pts)
    Croatia (0)
    Switzerland (1pt)
    Portugal (0)

    Total: 8pts

    1st / 2nd Real Mardin 12pts *
    1st / 2nd Futbolmetrix 12pts *
    3rd Mark 8pts
    4th Bider Dundat 7pts


    Top 3. Better than I expected after picking Portugal and Croatia and not picking Germany.

    Was there a winner for the sophisticated Eurocrotto competition?

    I won Sophisticated Eurocrotto by default as I was the only entrant! LOL

    RM

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Dec 20 03:00:09 2022
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 10:50:20 PM UTC, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 9:14:29 AM UTC, Mark wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:58:01 PM UTC, Real Mardin wrote:
    Unsophisticated Eurocrotto final scores:

    Real Mardin:

    Switzerland (1pt)
    Poland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Wales (3pts)
    Belgium (2pts)
    Germany (2pts)

    Total: 12pts


    Binder Dundat:

    Switzerland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Poland (1pt)
    England (0)
    Belgium (2pts)
    Portugal (0)


    Total: 7pts

    Futbolmetrix:

    Entered the same entry as Real Mardin - so 12 pts.


    Mark:

    Poland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Wales (3pts)
    Croatia (0)
    Switzerland (1pt)
    Portugal (0)

    Total: 8pts

    1st / 2nd Real Mardin 12pts *
    1st / 2nd Futbolmetrix 12pts *
    3rd Mark 8pts
    4th Bider Dundat 7pts


    Top 3. Better than I expected after picking Portugal and Croatia and not picking Germany.

    Was there a winner for the sophisticated Eurocrotto competition?
    I won Sophisticated Eurocrotto by default as I was the only entrant! LOL

    RM

    Sounds reasonable. Well done.

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Dec 20 11:29:27 2022
    On 2022-12-19 15:50, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 9:14:29 AM UTC, Mark wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:58:01 PM UTC, Real Mardin wrote:
    Unsophisticated Eurocrotto final scores:

    Real Mardin:

    Switzerland (1pt)
    Poland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Wales (3pts)
    Belgium (2pts)
    Germany (2pts)

    Total: 12pts


    Binder Dundat:

    Switzerland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Poland (1pt)
    England (0)
    Belgium (2pts)
    Portugal (0)


    Total: 7pts

    Futbolmetrix:

    Entered the same entry as Real Mardin - so 12 pts.


    Mark:

    Poland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Wales (3pts)
    Croatia (0)
    Switzerland (1pt)
    Portugal (0)

    Total: 8pts

    1st / 2nd Real Mardin 12pts *
    1st / 2nd Futbolmetrix 12pts *
    3rd Mark 8pts
    4th Bider Dundat 7pts


    Top 3. Better than I expected after picking Portugal and Croatia and not picking Germany.

    Was there a winner for the sophisticated Eurocrotto competition?

    I won Sophisticated Eurocrotto by default as I was the only entrant! LOL

    Not entirely true - I posted:

    Please enter the official SPC !

    As for the most likely Euros to go out:

    Wales 0.55
    Poland 0.5
    Switzerland .45
    Serbia .45
    Germany .37

    But I doubt my score was very good since I missed completely on Denmark
    and Belgium.



    RM

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 20 11:10:28 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 6:29:29 PM UTC, MH wrote:
    On 2022-12-19 15:50, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 9:14:29 AM UTC, Mark wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:58:01 PM UTC, Real Mardin wrote:
    Unsophisticated Eurocrotto final scores:

    Real Mardin:

    Switzerland (1pt)
    Poland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Wales (3pts)
    Belgium (2pts)
    Germany (2pts)

    Total: 12pts


    Binder Dundat:

    Switzerland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Poland (1pt)
    England (0)
    Belgium (2pts)
    Portugal (0)


    Total: 7pts

    Futbolmetrix:

    Entered the same entry as Real Mardin - so 12 pts.


    Mark:

    Poland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Wales (3pts)
    Croatia (0)
    Switzerland (1pt)
    Portugal (0)

    Total: 8pts

    1st / 2nd Real Mardin 12pts *
    1st / 2nd Futbolmetrix 12pts *
    3rd Mark 8pts
    4th Bider Dundat 7pts


    Top 3. Better than I expected after picking Portugal and Croatia and not picking Germany.

    Was there a winner for the sophisticated Eurocrotto competition?

    I won Sophisticated Eurocrotto by default as I was the only entrant! LOL
    Not entirely true - I posted:
    Please enter the official SPC !

    As for the most likely Euros to go out:

    Wales 0.55
    Poland 0.5
    Switzerland .45
    Serbia .45
    Germany .37
    But I doubt my score was very good since I missed completely on Denmark
    and Belgium.





    The remit was to post a probability for each UEFA nation not reaching the second round and mine was the only entry to comply with that.

    That said I’m not saying my entry was any good!


    RM

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Tue Dec 20 12:58:51 2022
    On 2022-12-20 12:10, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 6:29:29 PM UTC, MH wrote:
    On 2022-12-19 15:50, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 9:14:29 AM UTC, Mark wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:58:01 PM UTC, Real Mardin wrote:
    Unsophisticated Eurocrotto final scores:

    Real Mardin:

    Switzerland (1pt)
    Poland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Wales (3pts)
    Belgium (2pts)
    Germany (2pts)

    Total: 12pts


    Binder Dundat:

    Switzerland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Poland (1pt)
    England (0)
    Belgium (2pts)
    Portugal (0)


    Total: 7pts

    Futbolmetrix:

    Entered the same entry as Real Mardin - so 12 pts.


    Mark:

    Poland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Wales (3pts)
    Croatia (0)
    Switzerland (1pt)
    Portugal (0)

    Total: 8pts

    1st / 2nd Real Mardin 12pts *
    1st / 2nd Futbolmetrix 12pts *
    3rd Mark 8pts
    4th Bider Dundat 7pts


    Top 3. Better than I expected after picking Portugal and Croatia and not picking Germany.

    Was there a winner for the sophisticated Eurocrotto competition?

    I won Sophisticated Eurocrotto by default as I was the only entrant! LOL
    Not entirely true - I posted:
    Please enter the official SPC !

    As for the most likely Euros to go out:

    Wales 0.55
    Poland 0.5
    Switzerland .45
    Serbia .45
    Germany .37
    But I doubt my score was very good since I missed completely on Denmark
    and Belgium.





    The remit was to post a probability for each UEFA nation not reaching the second round and mine was the only entry to comply with that.



    That said I’m not saying my entry was any good!

    Well, as Futbolmetrix pointed out, all of us who entered the SPC did that.



    RM

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 21 00:39:05 2022
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 7:58:54 PM UTC, MH wrote:
    On 2022-12-20 12:10, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 6:29:29 PM UTC, MH wrote:
    On 2022-12-19 15:50, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 9:14:29 AM UTC, Mark wrote:
    On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 10:58:01 PM UTC, Real Mardin wrote: >>>>> Unsophisticated Eurocrotto final scores:

    Real Mardin:

    Switzerland (1pt)
    Poland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Wales (3pts)
    Belgium (2pts)
    Germany (2pts)

    Total: 12pts


    Binder Dundat:

    Switzerland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Poland (1pt)
    England (0)
    Belgium (2pts)
    Portugal (0)


    Total: 7pts

    Futbolmetrix:

    Entered the same entry as Real Mardin - so 12 pts.


    Mark:

    Poland (1pt)
    Serbia (3pts)
    Wales (3pts)
    Croatia (0)
    Switzerland (1pt)
    Portugal (0)

    Total: 8pts

    1st / 2nd Real Mardin 12pts *
    1st / 2nd Futbolmetrix 12pts *
    3rd Mark 8pts
    4th Bider Dundat 7pts


    Top 3. Better than I expected after picking Portugal and Croatia and not picking Germany.

    Was there a winner for the sophisticated Eurocrotto competition?

    I won Sophisticated Eurocrotto by default as I was the only entrant! LOL >> Not entirely true - I posted:
    Please enter the official SPC !

    As for the most likely Euros to go out:

    Wales 0.55
    Poland 0.5
    Switzerland .45
    Serbia .45
    Germany .37
    But I doubt my score was very good since I missed completely on Denmark >> and Belgium.





    The remit was to post a probability for each UEFA nation not reaching the second round and mine was the only entry to comply with that.



    That said I’m not saying my entry was any good!
    Well, as Futbolmetrix pointed out, all of us who entered the SPC did that.

    Not before the July 1 deadline though.

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