Winner gets the USA, England, and Iran.

Mike

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On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 6:48:26 a.m. UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:

Winner gets the USA, England, and Iran.

Three countries that should be banned from the WC, really from everything, horrible countries that essentially started black slavery and continue with it still today and Iran that is just not nice to neighbours with oil and missile happy. In fact,
Kanada was supposed to play Iran today, but cancelled due to Political correctness and that shooting down of that Ukrainian jet with all those Canadians on it way back, just before Covid I think?

I am into my victim blaming stage now with Ukrania, I am blaming them for me having to spend over 2 dollars a litre on gas for my boat that gets like 3 miles per gallon, how am I going to enjoy drunken boat driving when It cost like 200 bucks to drive
around for a weekend! Think of the children!!!

Mike

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Gareth Bale is another guy who has retired from the club game, he got a good pension though.



On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:27:15 a.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 6:48:26 a.m. UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:

Winner gets the USA, England, and Iran.

Three countries that should be banned from the WC, really from everything, horrible countries that essentially started black slavery and continue with it still today and Iran that is just not nice to neighbours with oil and missile happy. In fact,

Kanada was supposed to play Iran today, but cancelled due to Political correctness and that shooting down of that Ukrainian jet with all those Canadians on it way back, just before Covid I think?

I am into my victim blaming stage now with Ukrania, I am blaming them for me having to spend over 2 dollars a litre on gas for my boat that gets like 3 miles per gallon, how am I going to enjoy drunken boat driving when It cost like 200 bucks to drive

around for a weekend! Think of the children!!!

Mike

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Frickin Welchies! Booing the Ukrainians, chopping them down and calling back legit goals.

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 11:54:19 a.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

Gareth Bale is another guy who has retired from the club game, he got a good pension though.
On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:27:15 a.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 6:48:26 a.m. UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:

Winner gets the USA, England, and Iran.

Three countries that should be banned from the WC, really from everything, horrible countries that essentially started black slavery and continue with it still today and Iran that is just not nice to neighbours with oil and missile happy. In fact,

Kanada was supposed to play Iran today, but cancelled due to Political correctness and that shooting down of that Ukrainian jet with all those Canadians on it way back, just before Covid I think?

I am into my victim blaming stage now with Ukrania, I am blaming them for me having to spend over 2 dollars a litre on gas for my boat that gets like 3 miles per gallon, how am I going to enjoy drunken boat driving when It cost like 200 bucks to

drive around for a weekend! Think of the children!!!

Mike

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Dirty Welchies, resorting to every dirty trick in the book. Diving every time they are touched and wetting the pitch with non stop rain to make the surface slicker, just terrible! I would like to know what Mr. Lily White (who has a Welch mam) thinks of
all this.


On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 12:05:16 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

Frickin Welchies! Booing the Ukrainians, chopping them down and calling back legit goals.
On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 11:54:19 a.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

Gareth Bale is another guy who has retired from the club game, he got a good pension though.
On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:27:15 a.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 6:48:26 a.m. UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:

Winner gets the USA, England, and Iran.

Three countries that should be banned from the WC, really from everything, horrible countries that essentially started black slavery and continue with it still today and Iran that is just not nice to neighbours with oil and missile happy. In fact,

Kanada was supposed to play Iran today, but cancelled due to Political correctness and that shooting down of that Ukrainian jet with all those Canadians on it way back, just before Covid I think?

I am into my victim blaming stage now with Ukrania, I am blaming them for me having to spend over 2 dollars a litre on gas for my boat that gets like 3 miles per gallon, how am I going to enjoy drunken boat driving when It cost like 200 bucks to

drive around for a weekend! Think of the children!!!

Mike

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I think the downpour has stopped, but the torrential Welch diving has not.


On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 1:42:52 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

Is it normal for this much Rain in Wales, in the summer?

Not gonna happen Ukeees. Welch Bastards are going through. You got maybe 15 minutes to come back and ya cannit.

Did I ever mention me Mam is Welch?
On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 12:35:58 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

Dirty Welchies, resorting to every dirty trick in the book. Diving every time they are touched and wetting the pitch with non stop rain to make the surface slicker, just terrible! I would like to know what Mr. Lily White (who has a Welch mam) thinks

of all this.

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 12:05:16 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

Frickin Welchies! Booing the Ukrainians, chopping them down and calling back legit goals.
On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 11:54:19 a.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

Gareth Bale is another guy who has retired from the club game, he got a good pension though.
On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:27:15 a.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 6:48:26 a.m. UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:

Winner gets the USA, England, and Iran.

Three countries that should be banned from the WC, really from everything, horrible countries that essentially started black slavery and continue with it still today and Iran that is just not nice to neighbours with oil and missile happy. In

fact, Kanada was supposed to play Iran today, but cancelled due to Political correctness and that shooting down of that Ukrainian jet with all those Canadians on it way back, just before Covid I think?

I am into my victim blaming stage now with Ukrania, I am blaming them for me having to spend over 2 dollars a litre on gas for my boat that gets like 3 miles per gallon, how am I going to enjoy drunken boat driving when It cost like 200 bucks

to drive around for a weekend! Think of the children!!!

Mike

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Is it normal for this much Rain in Wales, in the summer?

Not gonna happen Ukeees. Welch Bastards are going through. You got maybe 15 minutes to come back and ya cannit.

Did I ever mention me Mam is Welch?

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 12:35:58 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

Dirty Welchies, resorting to every dirty trick in the book. Diving every time they are touched and wetting the pitch with non stop rain to make the surface slicker, just terrible! I would like to know what Mr. Lily White (who has a Welch mam) thinks of

all this.

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 12:05:16 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

Frickin Welchies! Booing the Ukrainians, chopping them down and calling back legit goals.
On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 11:54:19 a.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

Gareth Bale is another guy who has retired from the club game, he got a good pension though.
On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:27:15 a.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 6:48:26 a.m. UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:

Winner gets the USA, England, and Iran.

Three countries that should be banned from the WC, really from everything, horrible countries that essentially started black slavery and continue with it still today and Iran that is just not nice to neighbours with oil and missile happy. In fact,

Kanada was supposed to play Iran today, but cancelled due to Political correctness and that shooting down of that Ukrainian jet with all those Canadians on it way back, just before Covid I think?

I am into my victim blaming stage now with Ukrania, I am blaming them for me having to spend over 2 dollars a litre on gas for my boat that gets like 3 miles per gallon, how am I going to enjoy drunken boat driving when It cost like 200 bucks to

drive around for a weekend! Think of the children!!!

Mike

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I think Ramsey has also retired from Club football? Welch now time wasting. I will never love a Tom Jones song again.



On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 1:42:52 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

Is it normal for this much Rain in Wales, in the summer?

Not gonna happen Ukeees. Welch Bastards are going through. You got maybe 15 minutes to come back and ya cannit.

Did I ever mention me Mam is Welch?
On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 12:35:58 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

Dirty Welchies, resorting to every dirty trick in the book. Diving every time they are touched and wetting the pitch with non stop rain to make the surface slicker, just terrible! I would like to know what Mr. Lily White (who has a Welch mam) thinks

of all this.

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 12:05:16 p.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

Frickin Welchies! Booing the Ukrainians, chopping them down and calling back legit goals.
On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 11:54:19 a.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

Gareth Bale is another guy who has retired from the club game, he got a good pension though.
On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:27:15 a.m. UTC-4, Binder Dundat wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 6:48:26 a.m. UTC-4, Michael Falkner wrote:

Winner gets the USA, England, and Iran.

Three countries that should be banned from the WC, really from everything, horrible countries that essentially started black slavery and continue with it still today and Iran that is just not nice to neighbours with oil and missile happy. In

fact, Kanada was supposed to play Iran today, but cancelled due to Political correctness and that shooting down of that Ukrainian jet with all those Canadians on it way back, just before Covid I think?

I am into my victim blaming stage now with Ukrania, I am blaming them for me having to spend over 2 dollars a litre on gas for my boat that gets like 3 miles per gallon, how am I going to enjoy drunken boat driving when It cost like 200 bucks

to drive around for a weekend! Think of the children!!!

Mike

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Watched this in a Wales supporting household with my Welsh mother (no I am NOT Mr Lillywhite!), dad (not Welsh) and brother. Mixed feelings, Wales were lucky to win and Ukraine certainly had some good chances. Ukraine winning would have meant so much to
them and been an amazing story but it wasn’t meant to be and at least now we get to see Wales at a World Cup for the first time since 1958 and in the same group as England.

RM

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:20:45 PM UTC+1, anders t wrote:

Quoting Michael Falkner in rec.sport.soccer:

Winner gets the USA, England, and Iran.

Worst WC group ever?

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Quoting Michael Falkner in rec.sport.soccer:

Winner gets the USA, England, and Iran.

Worst WC group ever?

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On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 12:20:27 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:20:45 PM UTC+1, anders t wrote:

Quoting Michael Falkner in rec.sport.soccer:

Winner gets the USA, England, and Iran.

Worst WC group ever?

It’s funny you should say that. When I told my brother the group he was like “Is that actually a World Cup group?”

It’s as if some England fan is playing FIFA and has edited the game to give England the softest possible group.

USA v Wales in particular has the potential to be some sort of Trans Atlantic “eurocrotto”.

OTOH, we get a “Battle of Britain” match between England and Wales and Iran v USA is a match with history both on and off the pitch.

It's very good it ended this way, otherwise many people, myself included, would have thought it was rigged.
As for the group, whatever. England will cruise through it then be sent off by the first really strong team they meet.

It has to be said, the so-called principle of keeping sport separated from politics has gone down the drain.

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On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:20:45 PM UTC+1, anders t wrote:

Quoting Michael Falkner in rec.sport.soccer:

Winner gets the USA, England, and Iran.

Worst WC group ever?

It’s funny you should say that. When I told my brother the group he was like “Is that actually a World Cup group?”

It’s as if some England fan is playing FIFA and has edited the game to give England the softest possible group.

USA v Wales in particular has the potential to be some sort of Trans Atlantic “eurocrotto”.

OTOH, we get a “Battle of Britain” match between England and Wales and Iran v USA is a match with history both on and off the pitch.


RM

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On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 2:28:34 PM UTC-7, FF wrote:

It's very good it ended this way, otherwise many people, myself included, would have thought it was rigged.

Me being among them. My thought for the Scotland match was that it was fun for about an hour, then reality set it that it began to stink like a pile of manure. (Nothing against the Ukranians.)

As for the group, whatever. England will cruise through it then be sent off by the first really strong team they meet.

The two most overrated countries in the entire WC, Wales and Iran. Oof.

It has to be said, the so-called principle of keeping sport separated from politics has gone down the drain.

Hey, welcome... I don't know how many decades you've been asleep...

Mike

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On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:20:45 PM UTC+1, anders t wrote:

Quoting Michael Falkner in rec.sport.soccer:

Winner gets the USA, England, and Iran.

Worst WC group ever?

Possibly. The closest I can think of is USA, England, Slovenia and Algeria in 2010.

Anyway, so Scotland let Ukraine win last week for nothing!? How dare Wales go and win this match?

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On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 5:59:49 PM UTC+2, Mark wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:20:45 PM UTC+1, anders t wrote:

Quoting Michael Falkner in rec.sport.soccer:

Winner gets the USA, England, and Iran.

Worst WC group ever?

Possibly. The closest I can think of is USA, England, Slovenia and Algeria in 2010.

FIFA Rankings (at the time of the draw)

Group B 2022

England (5)
USA (15)
Wales (18)
Iran (21)

Group C 2010

England (8)
USA (14)
Slovenia (25)
Algeria (30)


Group A 2018

Uruguay (14)
Egypt (45)
Saudi-Arabia (67)
Russia (70)



Ciao,
Werner

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On 2022-06-06 12:45, Werner Pichler wrote:

On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 5:59:49 PM UTC+2, Mark wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:20:45 PM UTC+1, anders t wrote:

Quoting Michael Falkner in rec.sport.soccer:

Winner gets the USA, England, and Iran.

Worst WC group ever?

Possibly. The closest I can think of is USA, England, Slovenia and Algeria in 2010.

FIFA Rankings (at the time of the draw)

Group B 2022

England (5)
USA (15)
Wales (18)
Iran (21)

Group C 2010

England (8)
USA (14)
Slovenia (25)
Algeria (30)

Group A 2018

Uruguay (14)
Egypt (45)
Saudi-Arabia (67)
Russia (70)

Wow, that is indeed low.

Italy, Chile, Austria Cameroon in 1998 was not too flash either

10, 17, 26, 51

Ciao,
Werner

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On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 10:28:34 PM UTC+1, FF wrote:

On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 12:20:27 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:20:45 PM UTC+1, anders t wrote:

Quoting Michael Falkner in rec.sport.soccer:

Winner gets the USA, England, and Iran.

Worst WC group ever?

It’s funny you should say that. When I told my brother the group he was like “Is that actually a World Cup group?”

It’s as if some England fan is playing FIFA and has edited the game to give England the softest possible group.

USA v Wales in particular has the potential to be some sort of Trans Atlantic “eurocrotto”.

OTOH, we get a “Battle of Britain” match between England and Wales and Iran v USA is a match with history both on and off the pitch.

It's very good it ended this way, otherwise many people, myself included, would have thought it was rigged.

Why would Ukraine beating Scotland and Wales make you think the matches were rigged? Particularly when Ukraine were the better side in both matches?

It’s not as if they beat Italy and Brazil with hotly disputed penalties in the 12th minute of injury time?

RM

As for the group, whatever. England will cruise through it then be sent off by the first really strong team they meet.

It has to be said, the so-called principle of keeping sport separated from politics has gone down the drain.

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On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 10:28:34 PM UTC+1, FF wrote:

On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 12:20:27 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:20:45 PM UTC+1, anders t wrote:

Quoting Michael Falkner in rec.sport.soccer:

Winner gets the USA, England, and Iran.

Worst WC group ever?

It’s funny you should say that. When I told my brother the group he was like “Is that actually a World Cup group?”

It’s as if some England fan is playing FIFA and has edited the game to give England the softest possible group.

USA v Wales in particular has the potential to be some sort of Trans Atlantic “eurocrotto”.

OTOH, we get a “Battle of Britain” match between England and Wales and Iran v USA is a match with history both on and off the pitch.

It's very good it ended this way, otherwise many people, myself included, would have thought it was rigged.

Why would Ukraine beating Scotland and Wales make you think the matches were rigged? Particularly when Ukraine played better in both matches?

It’s not as if they beat Italy and Brazil with hotly disputed penalties on the 12th minute of injury time?

RM

As for the group, whatever. England will cruise through it then be sent off by the first really strong team they meet.

It has to be said, the so-called principle of keeping sport separated from politics has gone down the drain.

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On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 7:45:11 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:

On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 5:59:49 PM UTC+2, Mark wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:20:45 PM UTC+1, anders t wrote:

Quoting Michael Falkner in rec.sport.soccer:

Winner gets the USA, England, and Iran.

Worst WC group ever?

Possibly. The closest I can think of is USA, England, Slovenia and Algeria in 2010.

FIFA Rankings (at the time of the draw)

Group B 2022

England (5)
USA (15)
Wales (18)
Iran (21)

Group C 2010

England (8)
USA (14)
Slovenia (25)
Algeria (30)

Group A 2018

Uruguay (14)
Egypt (45)
Saudi-Arabia (67)
Russia (70)

Ciao,
Werner

I don’t think the rankings tell the whole story. That 2010 group felt at the time like it was stronger than the rankings suggest. Also 70th ranked Russia 2018 I believe were a better team than Wales 2022.

RM

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On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 9:45:06 PM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 10:28:34 PM UTC+1, FF wrote:

On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 12:20:27 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:20:45 PM UTC+1, anders t wrote:

Quoting Michael Falkner in rec.sport.soccer:

Winner gets the USA, England, and Iran.

Worst WC group ever?

It’s funny you should say that. When I told my brother the group he was like “Is that actually a World Cup group?”

It’s as if some England fan is playing FIFA and has edited the game to give England the softest possible group.

USA v Wales in particular has the potential to be some sort of Trans Atlantic “eurocrotto”.

OTOH, we get a “Battle of Britain” match between England and Wales and Iran v USA is a match with history both on and off the pitch.

It's very good it ended this way, otherwise many people, myself included, would have thought it was rigged.

Why would Ukraine beating Scotland and Wales make you think the matches were rigged? Particularly when Ukraine played better in both matches?

It’s not as if they beat Italy and Brazil with hotly disputed penalties on the 12th minute of injury time?

RM

Well, to be sure they weren't rigged I'd need to look closely at the officiating, like I used to once. I could, if I found the games on youtube. But I won't. :) It's not like I care much about it, as I said even if they were to rig it a little bit in
Ukraine's favor, whatever, they're in need right now so let them have the consolation. As long as they don't get to the KO rounds without deserving it. But still, it's better that they didn't qualify in the end, puts an end to any suspicion of this sort
one might have.

Speaking of Italy. I'm sure you discussed it here at the time but I wasn't present. Looks like you can't put them in the same sentence with Brazil any more. ;) Failing to qualify twice in a row says something. And in between they win the Euro. Only goes
to show that the Euro is a second-rate tournament that can be won by minnows like Greece, Denmark and now Italy.
My guess is that it has much to do with the video ref. You may disagree, I'm sure many will, but they know their usual tactics won't bring them any trophies any more (not the big ones anyway) so they need to change their game. Problem is, it's the only
game they know, they've been playing like this since prehistory. I don't think they'll be a force any more, at least for something like 20 - 30 years, possibly much longer. Maybe ever. They'll qualify of course, maybe even get to the upper rounds from
time to time, but they won't win it. Let's see.

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