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  • Scotland - Ukraine World Cup Playoff [R]

    From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 31 14:48:09 2022
    Forgive me for opening this thread a day early, but the prospect of a World Cup playoff match in a month where we're going to be denied our usual Summer World Cup was too much to resist.

    Please also forgive me for referencing non-football politics, but Scotland are the pantomime villains for the day, aren't they? Given the torrid time Ukraine has had recently, most people who aren't Scottish or Russian want Ukraine to win, don't they? I
    mean Ukraine qualifying for Qatar 2022 would be an incredible story and might actually make the tournament worth watching.

    The winners play Wales in Cardiff on Sunday.


    RM

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to real_mardin@yahoo.co.uk on Tue May 31 22:05:18 2022
    In article <0e17d673-5222-4634-9438-d433b13200c9n@googlegroups.com>,
    Real Mardin <real_mardin@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    Forgive me for opening this thread a day early, but the prospect of a
    World Cup playoff match in a month where we're going to be denied our
    usual Summer World Cup was too much to resist.

    Please also forgive me for referencing non-football politics, but
    Scotland are the pantomime villains for the day, aren't they? Given the >torrid time Ukraine has had recently, most people who aren't Scottish or >Russian want Ukraine to win, don't they? I mean Ukraine qualifying for
    Qatar 2022 would be an incredible story and might actually make the >tournament worth watching.

    The winners play Wales in Cardiff on Sunday.


    RM


    Great stuff!
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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 31 20:05:27 2022
    Nothing against Scotland (or eventually Wales, which hosts the Final of this pod) in that regard at all.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 07:42:49 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 7:20:16 AM UTC-7, FF wrote:

    Well, they won Eurovision, right ? Maybe they'll win the World Cup too. Wouldn't surprise me (too much).

    On a different note, isn't there at least some chance that the Cup won't be played in winter because of another covid outbreak ? That would be something. Can't be held in summer because of the heat, in winter because of the virus. Let's see, maybe it
    doesn't happen.

    If they were smart, but it's clear they aren't. I think it's becoming clear that we are about to, if not in the nascent beginnings of, get(ting) the culling that a lot of people wanted COVID to provide!

    Mike

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  • From FF@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Wed Jun 1 07:20:14 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 6:05:28 AM UTC+3, Michael Falkner wrote:
    Nothing against Scotland (or eventually Wales, which hosts the Final of this pod) in that regard at all.

    Mike

    Well, they won Eurovision, right ? Maybe they'll win the World Cup too. Wouldn't surprise me (too much).

    On a different note, isn't there at least some chance that the Cup won't be played in winter because of another covid outbreak ? That would be something. Can't be held in summer because of the heat, in winter because of the virus. Let's see, maybe it
    doesn't happen.

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  • From FF@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Wed Jun 1 10:00:51 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 5:42:51 PM UTC+3, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 7:20:16 AM UTC-7, FF wrote:

    Well, they won Eurovision, right ? Maybe they'll win the World Cup too. Wouldn't surprise me (too much).

    On a different note, isn't there at least some chance that the Cup won't be played in winter because of another covid outbreak ? That would be something. Can't be held in summer because of the heat, in winter because of the virus. Let's see, maybe it
    doesn't happen.
    If they were smart, but it's clear they aren't. I think it's becoming clear that we are about to, if not in the nascent beginnings of, get(ting) the culling that a lot of people wanted COVID to provide!

    Mike

    I want to be very clear that I didn't mean it like this. As a conspiracy theory. But it might happen. Moving the Cup in winter might prove not to be the best idea in the age of covid. Hopefully it doesn't come to this.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 10:35:52 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 10:00:53 AM UTC-7, FF wrote:

    I want to be very clear that I didn't mean it like this. As a conspiracy theory. But it might happen. Moving the Cup in winter might prove not to be the best idea in the age of covid. Hopefully it doesn't come to this.

    If they win their way in, they'd be in the group with the USA, which actually has a fairly easy draw in the knockouts for whoever wins the England group.

    Mike

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Wed Jun 1 10:49:04 2022
    On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 10:48:10 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    Forgive me for opening this thread a day early, but the prospect of a World Cup playoff match in a month where we're going to be denied our usual Summer World Cup was too much to resist.

    Please also forgive me for referencing non-football politics, but Scotland are the pantomime villains for the day, aren't they? Given the torrid time Ukraine has had recently, most people who aren't Scottish or Russian want Ukraine to win, don't they?
    I mean Ukraine qualifying for Qatar 2022 would be an incredible story and might actually make the tournament worth watching.

    The winners play Wales in Cardiff on Sunday.


    RM

    The lyrics to the Ukrainian national anthem in English to be handed out to fans at Hampden Park so that they can sing along. Nice touch.

    RM

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 11:35:38 2022
    Even the former Scottish international doing studio work for ESPN is shaking his head, knowing and feeling the conflict his nation has today.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 12:05:03 2022
    Second close chance for Ukraine probably would've been whistled back anyway, even if the flag was not up.

    0-0 17'

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 11:59:43 2022
    Two in the book for Ukraine for tackles from behind within 11 minutes.

    Mike

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Wed Jun 1 12:06:49 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 8:05:04 PM UTC+1, Michael Falkner wrote:
    Second close chance for Ukraine probably would've been whistled back anyway, even if the flag was not up.

    0-0 17'

    Mike

    Can’t decide whether that one was a bad shot or a good save but Ukraine should have gone 1-0 up there.

    RM

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Wed Jun 1 12:13:20 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 8:06:53 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 8:05:04 PM UTC+1, Michael Falkner wrote:
    Second close chance for Ukraine probably would've been whistled back anyway, even if the flag was not up.

    0-0 17'

    Mike
    Can’t decide whether that one was a bad shot or a good save but Ukraine should have gone 1-0 up there.

    RM

    Scotland, I sincerely want to see you at World Cup 2026 but please do the decent thing and job tonight so Ukraine can have something to smile about.

    RM

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  • From Jesus Petry@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 12:22:40 2022
    Україна!

    (Sorry, Scotland, nothing against you)

    Tchau!
    Jesus Petry

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 12:22:15 2022
    Goal Ukraine!!

    The 9 for Ukraine was slightly offside on a long pass from the defensive half, but the 7 was the one who beat the trap as the 9 got out of the way of the play.

    0-1 (Yarmolenko) 35th minute to the Ukraine!

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Wed Jun 1 12:17:09 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 12:06:53 PM UTC-7, Real Mardin wrote:

    Can’t decide whether that one was a bad shot or a good save but Ukraine should have gone 1-0 up there.

    Unexpected shot, but I think that one would've gone back anyway had it gone in the net, not dissimilar to the deflection call in the first half of the CL Final. I think that was a deflection and not a deliberate play.

    Mike

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Wed Jun 1 12:22:23 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 8:17:11 PM UTC+1, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 12:06:53 PM UTC-7, Real Mardin wrote:

    Can’t decide whether that one was a bad shot or a good save but Ukraine should have gone 1-0 up there.
    Unexpected shot, but I think that one would've gone back anyway had it gone in the net, not dissimilar to the deflection call in the first half of the CL Final. I think that was a deflection and not a deliberate play.

    Mike

    Long ball over the top, Yarmolenko beats the offside trap and chips the keeper - 1-0 Ukraine! What a finish!

    RM

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  • From Insane Ranter@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 12:31:21 2022
    Ukraine will beat Scotland being on an emotional high then lose to Wales after the emotions are spent.

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Insane Ranter on Wed Jun 1 12:35:47 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 12:31:22 PM UTC-7, Insane Ranter wrote:
    Ukraine will beat Scotland being on an emotional high then lose to Wales after the emotions are spent.

    I get why you are saying it, but I do disagree. This is one of those situations I call back on my fandom of Final Fantasy -- Final Fantasy X to be specific, and that, even though there is a monster which can annihilate entire cities at it's election, "
    At least we still have blitz."

    -------

    As for the game, a deserved 0-1 to the Ukranians at halftime.

    It's a nervy game, and there's a very real chance that either side could end up a man short by it's end. Ukraine, however, do have the better of the play, and a nice beating of the offside trap for the goal.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 12:53:48 2022
    Yaremchuk takes advantage of a Scottish error in the back and doubles the Ukraine's advantage!!

    0-2 Ukraine 49'

    Mike

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Wed Jun 1 12:56:53 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 8:53:49 PM UTC+1, Michael Falkner wrote:
    Yaremchuk takes advantage of a Scottish error in the back and doubles the Ukraine's advantage!!

    0-2 Ukraine 49'

    Mike

    Three Scots defenders didn't get to the cross but the last man Yaremchuk did and placed his header perfectly to evade Gordon!

    And Ukraine just had another chance!


    RM

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 13:01:25 2022
    And Ukraine almost bottle it on the other side in the back!

    Still 0-2, however. About 35 minutes to go.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 13:07:40 2022
    Getting reports Ian Darke has gone silent on the ESPN commentary feed and now ESPN has gone to an international commentary feed.

    Mike

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Wed Jun 1 13:12:50 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:01:27 PM UTC+1, Michael Falkner wrote:
    And Ukraine almost bottle it on the other side in the back!

    Still 0-2, however. About 35 minutes to go.

    Mike

    Ukrainian keeper just parried a cross right at MnGinn and somehow he headed Wide! What a miss!

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 13:10:03 2022
    Temporary Internet remote-broadcast issue for Darke. I know I have also had an Internet blip watching the second half of the match, so I get it.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 13:12:11 2022
    McGinn misses a sitter header as the clock ticks on Scotland!

    About 20 minutes left, still 0-2 to the Ukraine!

    Mike

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Wed Jun 1 13:28:44 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:16:28 PM UTC+1, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 1:12:51 PM UTC-7, Real Mardin wrote:

    Ukrainian keeper just parried a cross right at MnGinn and somehow he headed Wide! What a miss!
    Spidey Sense beginning to tingle after that one. Too convenient of a miss, and no one will care.

    Mike

    Well the Ukrainian keeper made a mess of cleaning a cross, Scotland chip the ball in, Ukrainian defender tries to clear - but the ball is over the line! Scotland 1 - Ukraine 2. 7 minutes left. A grandstand finish awaits!

    RM

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Wed Jun 1 13:35:00 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:28:45 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:16:28 PM UTC+1, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 1:12:51 PM UTC-7, Real Mardin wrote:

    Ukrainian keeper just parried a cross right at MnGinn and somehow he headed Wide! What a miss!
    Spidey Sense beginning to tingle after that one. Too convenient of a miss, and no one will care.

    Mike
    Well the Ukrainian keeper made a mess of cleaning a cross, Scotland chip the ball in, Ukrainian defender tries to clear - but the ball is over the line! Scotland 1 - Ukraine 2. 7 minutes left. A grandstand finish awaits!

    RM

    Four minutes injury time...

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Wed Jun 1 13:16:26 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 1:12:51 PM UTC-7, Real Mardin wrote:

    Ukrainian keeper just parried a cross right at MnGinn and somehow he headed Wide! What a miss!

    Spidey Sense beginning to tingle after that one. Too convenient of a miss, and no one will care.

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 13:26:16 2022
    Ukraine tiring BADLY.

    Scotland have halved the advantage, and a clean 1 on 1 was muffed by the Ukranian because he couldn't keep the pace up.

    1-2 to the Ukraine, 82'

    Mike

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 13:40:46 2022
    And almost as if they scripted it, a 3-1 on the last meaningful kick of the match which appeared significantly offside at first glance. (Not that it really mattered one way or the other.)

    1-3 FT. Wales-Ukraine on Sunday.

    Mike

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Wed Jun 1 13:41:54 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:35:45 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:35:02 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:28:45 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:16:28 PM UTC+1, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 1:12:51 PM UTC-7, Real Mardin wrote:

    Ukrainian keeper just parried a cross right at MnGinn and somehow he headed Wide! What a miss!
    Spidey Sense beginning to tingle after that one. Too convenient of a miss, and no one will care.

    Mike
    Well the Ukrainian keeper made a mess of cleaning a cross, Scotland chip the ball in, Ukrainian defender tries to clear - but the ball is over the line! Scotland 1 - Ukraine 2. 7 minutes left. A grandstand finish awaits!

    RM
    Four minutes injury time...
    Scotland waste a corner, headed tamely wide.

    They’ve done it! Counter attack puts Dobyk (sp?) through and he finds the net to put Ukraine 3-1 up with the last kick of the game!

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Wed Jun 1 13:37:57 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:35:45 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:35:02 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:28:45 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:16:28 PM UTC+1, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 1:12:51 PM UTC-7, Real Mardin wrote:

    Ukrainian keeper just parried a cross right at MnGinn and somehow he headed Wide! What a miss!
    Spidey Sense beginning to tingle after that one. Too convenient of a miss, and no one will care.

    Mike
    Well the Ukrainian keeper made a mess of cleaning a cross, Scotland chip the ball in, Ukrainian defender tries to clear - but the ball is over the line! Scotland 1 - Ukraine 2. 7 minutes left. A grandstand finish awaits!

    RM
    Four minutes injury time...
    Scotland waste a corner, headed tamely wide.

    And Ukraine take it right up the other end and nearly make it 3-1!

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  • From ixion martin - GdBx@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 22:52:55 2022
    Real Mardin a utilisé son clavier pour écrire :

    Ukraine - your time is now.

    Sure.
    In 2026, the won't exist anymore.

    --
    Ixion

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to ixion martin - GdBx on Wed Jun 1 13:55:50 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 1:52:57 PM UTC-7, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:

    In 2026, the won't exist anymore.

    Think of this scary possibility: They win the pod on Sunday, but, by late November, cease to exist.

    What does FIFA do then?

    Mike

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Wed Jun 1 14:02:19 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:55:52 PM UTC+1, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 1:52:57 PM UTC-7, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:

    In 2026, the won't exist anymore.
    Think of this scary possibility: They win the pod on Sunday, but, by late November, cease to exist.

    For three months they've impressively repelled the Russian invasion, by and large the only places they've lost ground are those Eastern territories where Russia already had a foothold.

    However this war ends Ukraine is not going to cease to exist by Qatar 2022.


    RM

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  • From Real Mardin@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Wed Jun 1 13:44:08 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:41:55 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:35:45 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:35:02 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:28:45 PM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:16:28 PM UTC+1, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 1:12:51 PM UTC-7, Real Mardin wrote:

    Ukrainian keeper just parried a cross right at MnGinn and somehow he headed Wide! What a miss!
    Spidey Sense beginning to tingle after that one. Too convenient of a miss, and no one will care.

    Mike
    Well the Ukrainian keeper made a mess of cleaning a cross, Scotland chip the ball in, Ukrainian defender tries to clear - but the ball is over the line! Scotland 1 - Ukraine 2. 7 minutes left. A grandstand finish awaits!

    RM
    Four minutes injury time...
    Scotland waste a corner, headed tamely wide.
    They’ve done it! Counter attack puts Dobyk (sp?) through and he finds the net to put Ukraine 3-1 up with the last kick of the game!

    Scotland - your time will come.

    Ukraine - your time is now.


    RM

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Wed Jun 1 15:07:02 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 2:02:21 PM UTC-7, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:55:52 PM UTC+1, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 1:52:57 PM UTC-7, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:

    In 2026, the won't exist anymore.
    Think of this scary possibility: They win the pod on Sunday, but, by late November, cease to exist.
    For three months they've impressively repelled the Russian invasion, by and large the only places they've lost ground are those Eastern territories where Russia already had a foothold.

    However this war ends Ukraine is not going to cease to exist by Qatar 2022.

    We can only hope.

    Mike (I do wonder if Putin is playing the long game, seeing the political situation in the USA and thinking Trump will retake power and end NATO when he does. Otherwise, why has he not tac-nuked an Ukrainian city, especially after the sinking of one of
    his lead ships?)

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to darkstar7646@gmail.com on Wed Jun 1 22:59:34 2022
    In article <c93fb3ff-e805-4868-a729-e2f1e396801an@googlegroups.com>,
    Michael Falkner <darkstar7646@gmail.com> wrote:
    And almost as if they scripted it, a 3-1 on the last meaningful kick of
    the match which appeared significantly offside at first glance. (Not
    that it really mattered one way or the other.)

    1-3 FT. Wales-Ukraine on Sunday.

    Mike

    Got you!
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  • From Ion Saliu@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Thu Jun 2 03:26:34 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 12:48:10 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
    Forgive me for opening this thread a day early, but the prospect of a World Cup playoff match in a month where we're going to be denied our usual Summer World Cup was too much to resist.

    Please also forgive me for referencing non-football politics, but Scotland are the pantomime villains for the day, aren't they? Given the torrid time Ukraine has had recently, most people who aren't Scottish or Russian want Ukraine to win, don't they?
    I mean Ukraine qualifying for Qatar 2022 would be an incredible story and might actually make the tournament worth watching.

    The winners play Wales in Cardiff on Sunday.


    RM

    Aksiyomatik,

    If the same victor after the Cardiff game, then it STINKS! But, hey, that’s the new norm. Think of the Oskars! It’s no longer about merit — it’s all about feel-good religious-ideology.

    I’m surprised no government forced their citizens to watch the Glasgow match and cheer Team Ukraine via social media!

    Mestinks the 2022 World Champion is already set. It ain’t you, Boris Johnson… and you love it!
    BBRRRRRRRRAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

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  • From Ion Saliu@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Thu Jun 2 03:20:48 2022
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 12:48:10 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
    Forgive me for opening this thread a day early, but the prospect of a World Cup playoff match in a month where we're going to be denied our usual Summer World Cup was too much to resist.

    Please also forgive me for referencing non-football politics, but Scotland are the pantomime villains for the day, aren't they? Given the torrid time Ukraine has had recently, most people who aren't Scottish or Russian want Ukraine to win, don't they?
    I mean Ukraine qualifying for Qatar 2022 would be an incredible story and might actually make the tournament worth watching.

    The winners play Wales in Cardiff on Sunday.


    RM

    Aksiyomatik,

    If the same victor after the Cardiff game, then it STINKS! But, hey, that’s the new norm. Think of the Oskars! It’s no longer about merit — it’s all about feel-good religious-ideology.

    I’m surprised no government forced their citizens to watch the Glasgow match and cheer Team Ukraine via social media!

    Mestinks the 2022 World Champion is already set...
    BBRRRRRRRRAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

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  • From FF@21:1/5 to Real Mardin on Thu Jun 2 10:48:22 2022
    On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 12:02:21 AM UTC+3, Real Mardin wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 9:55:52 PM UTC+1, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 1:52:57 PM UTC-7, ixion martin - GdBx wrote:

    In 2026, the won't exist anymore.
    Think of this scary possibility: They win the pod on Sunday, but, by late November, cease to exist.
    For three months they've impressively repelled the Russian invasion, by and large the only places they've lost ground are those Eastern territories where Russia already had a foothold.

    However this war ends Ukraine is not going to cease to exist by Qatar 2022.

    Plus the south. Ukraine is practically cut off from the sea.
    If the russians had really wanted it, there would be no Ukraine to talk of now. But I agree they probably won't finish it off this time around. They'll leave it crippled and conditioned to not join NATO and not host any weapons that could be dangerous to
    Russia. And this time there will be a written treaty to it.

    So, as a consolation, they'll give them a place at the World Cup, like they gave them the lame Eurovision. I honestly hope not more than that. I won't mind seeing them in the groups instead of another team that would have deserved it more football-wise,
    but not in the KO rounds.

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