• Sorta Super SaturdayR

    From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 12:40:21 2024
    Ok, they are only friendlies, but 3 huge matches on today (four if you
    want to include T&T vs Kanada)!


    Slovakia vs Austria
    Local Derby match between two teams destined for glory this summer!
    Oh, and by "glory", I mean making it to the next round by finishing 3rd
    in their groups.

    England vs Brasil and Germany vs France have S America and Europe's
    greatest teams ever vs England and France. I can say greatest if you go
    by World or Euro or Copa America trophies and if you went further by
    giving out points for 2nd or 3rd and final standings, probably Brazil
    and Germany would be ahead in that as well-I could be wrong about S
    america if you give a lot of weight to Copa americas.

    But, no one will be surprised if Both Brasil and Germany lose today.
    Niether team is what they used to be. I would say things look better for
    Brasil in that they have some decent young players coming up, Germany
    has one player. All the other players J-Nag is picking are journeymen
    players in their late 20s or old players, who are still good, but older,
    like in their mid 30s. In my mind they didn't pick the old guy I would
    have picked in Hummells. I dont think I would pick Muller or even Kroos anymore, though I have less problem with Kroos.

    Brasil is missing a lot of players for this one, but the English love
    the idea of winning a match vs Brasil almost as much as winning a match
    vs Germany.

    So what is the deal with Neymar, he kinda went into a semi retirement
    about 10 years ago, he only plays in matches or cups where there is
    drinking and sex and parties and I get that, but you cant always have
    that. And it just isnt the time for it now, when all these old, top
    Brasil players are getting charged with rape. I think little Robinho is
    the latest guy?

    Meanwhile France are the current top team in Europe, yet they still play
    with an old guy up front, granted he looks marvelous, but it just tells
    you, that maybe having old guys isnt such a bad thing, I am assuming
    Giroud is playing.

    For England they are probably 2nd or 3rd favourites this summer along
    with Portugal, so a win would definitely have an uplifting affect on the
    team, not to mention having the media declare them de facto EURO 24
    champions.

    For a Derby match Slovakia vs Austria have only met 5 times? That cant
    be true?

    Aufstellung
    Slowakei

    Dubravka - Pekarik, Gyömber, Obert, Hancko - Kucka, Lobotka, Duda -
    Suslov, Bozenik, Haraslin

    Österreich

    Pentz - Lainer, Querfeld, Danso, Mwene - Seiwald, Grillitsch, Laimer, Baumgartner, Sabitzer - Gregoritsch

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Sat Mar 23 13:06:45 2024
    We are now projecting Austria to win EURO 24. That has to be the
    quickest goal ever scored in an International match.



    On 2024-03-23 12:40 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    Ok, they are only friendlies, but 3 huge matches on today (four if you
    want to include T&T vs Kanada)!


    Slovakia vs Austria
    Local Derby match between two teams destined for glory this summer!
    Oh, and by "glory", I mean making it to the next round by finishing 3rd
    in their groups.

    England vs Brasil and Germany vs France have S America and Europe's
    greatest teams ever vs England and France. I can say greatest if you go
    by World or Euro or Copa America trophies and if you went further by
    giving out points for 2nd or 3rd and final standings, probably Brazil
    and Germany would be ahead in that as well-I could be wrong about S
    america if you give a lot of weight to Copa americas.

    But, no one will be surprised if Both Brasil and Germany lose today.
    Niether team is what they used to be. I would say things look better for Brasil in that they have some decent young players coming up, Germany
    has one player.  All the other players J-Nag is picking are journeymen players in their late 20s or old players, who are still good, but older,
    like in their mid 30s.  In my mind they didn't pick the old guy I would
    have picked in Hummells.  I dont think I would pick Muller or even Kroos anymore, though I have less problem with Kroos.

    Brasil is missing a lot of players for this one, but the English love
    the idea of winning a match vs Brasil almost as much as winning a match
    vs Germany.

    So what is the deal with Neymar, he kinda went into a semi retirement
    about 10 years ago, he only plays in matches or cups where there is
    drinking and sex and parties and I get that, but you cant always have
    that.  And it just isnt the time for it now, when all these old, top
    Brasil players are getting charged with rape. I think little Robinho is
    the latest guy?

    Meanwhile France are the current top team in Europe, yet they still play
    with an old guy up front, granted he looks marvelous, but it just tells
    you, that maybe having old guys isnt such a bad thing, I am assuming
    Giroud is playing.

    For England they are probably 2nd or 3rd favourites this summer along
    with Portugal, so a win would definitely have an uplifting affect on the team, not to mention having the media declare them de facto EURO 24 champions.

    For a Derby match Slovakia vs Austria have only met 5 times?  That cant
    be true?

    Aufstellung
    Slowakei

    Dubravka - Pekarik, Gyömber, Obert, Hancko - Kucka, Lobotka, Duda -
    Suslov, Bozenik, Haraslin

    Österreich

    Pentz - Lainer, Querfeld, Danso, Mwene - Seiwald, Grillitsch, Laimer, Baumgartner, Sabitzer - Gregoritsch


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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Sat Mar 23 13:52:36 2024
    On 2024-03-23 1:06 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    We are now projecting Austria to win EURO 24.  That has to be the
    quickest goal ever scored in an International match.

    The Projection machine has been adjusted for HT and is no longer
    predicting Austria as champions, that is the problem with the machine,
    it was predicting a crazy 90-0 score after one minute!??!!?

    Slov 0 - 1 Aut HT





    On 2024-03-23 12:40 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    Ok, they are only friendlies, but 3 huge matches on today (four if you
    want to include T&T vs Kanada)!


    Slovakia vs Austria
    Local Derby match between two teams destined for glory this summer!
    Oh, and by "glory", I mean making it to the next round by finishing
    3rd in their groups.

    England vs Brasil and Germany vs France have S America and Europe's
    greatest teams ever vs England and France. I can say greatest if you
    go by World or Euro or Copa America trophies and if you went further
    by giving out points for 2nd or 3rd and final standings, probably
    Brazil and Germany would be ahead in that as well-I could be wrong
    about S america if you give a lot of weight to Copa americas.

    But, no one will be surprised if Both Brasil and Germany lose today.
    Niether team is what they used to be. I would say things look better
    for Brasil in that they have some decent young players coming up,
    Germany has one player.  All the other players J-Nag is picking are
    journeymen players in their late 20s or old players, who are still
    good, but older, like in their mid 30s.  In my mind they didn't pick
    the old guy I would have picked in Hummells.  I dont think I would
    pick Muller or even Kroos anymore, though I have less problem with Kroos.

    Brasil is missing a lot of players for this one, but the English love
    the idea of winning a match vs Brasil almost as much as winning a
    match vs Germany.

    So what is the deal with Neymar, he kinda went into a semi retirement
    about 10 years ago, he only plays in matches or cups where there is
    drinking and sex and parties and I get that, but you cant always have
    that.  And it just isnt the time for it now, when all these old, top
    Brasil players are getting charged with rape. I think little Robinho
    is the latest guy?

    Meanwhile France are the current top team in Europe, yet they still
    play with an old guy up front, granted he looks marvelous, but it just
    tells you, that maybe having old guys isnt such a bad thing, I am
    assuming Giroud is playing.

    For England they are probably 2nd or 3rd favourites this summer along
    with Portugal, so a win would definitely have an uplifting affect on
    the team, not to mention having the media declare them de facto EURO
    24 champions.

    For a Derby match Slovakia vs Austria have only met 5 times?  That
    cant be true?

    Aufstellung
    Slowakei

    Dubravka - Pekarik, Gyömber, Obert, Hancko - Kucka, Lobotka, Duda -
    Suslov, Bozenik, Haraslin

    Österreich

    Pentz - Lainer, Querfeld, Danso, Mwene - Seiwald, Grillitsch, Laimer,
    Baumgartner, Sabitzer - Gregoritsch



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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Sat Mar 23 14:31:53 2024
    Still 0-1, austria look more likely to score than Slovakia, but you
    never know.

    Meanwhile in London, the English are getting ready for their first ever
    victory over Brasil.


    Aufstellung
    England

    Pickford - Walker, Stones, H. Maguire, Chilwell - Rice, Gallagher,
    Foden, Bellingham, Gordon - Watkins

    Brasilien

    Bento - Danilo, Fabricio Bruno, Lucas Beraldo, Wendell - Joao Gomes,
    Bruno Guimaraes, Lucas Paqueta - Raphinha, Rodrygo, Vinicius Junior




    On 2024-03-23 1:52 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    On 2024-03-23 1:06 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    We are now projecting Austria to win EURO 24.  That has to be the
    quickest goal ever scored in an International match.

    The Projection machine has been adjusted for HT and is no longer
    predicting Austria as champions, that is the problem with the machine,
    it was predicting a crazy 90-0 score after one minute!??!!?

    Slov 0 - 1 Aut HT





    On 2024-03-23 12:40 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    Ok, they are only friendlies, but 3 huge matches on today (four if
    you want to include T&T vs Kanada)!


    Slovakia vs Austria
    Local Derby match between two teams destined for glory this summer!
    Oh, and by "glory", I mean making it to the next round by finishing
    3rd in their groups.

    England vs Brasil and Germany vs France have S America and Europe's
    greatest teams ever vs England and France. I can say greatest if you
    go by World or Euro or Copa America trophies and if you went further
    by giving out points for 2nd or 3rd and final standings, probably
    Brazil and Germany would be ahead in that as well-I could be wrong
    about S america if you give a lot of weight to Copa americas.

    But, no one will be surprised if Both Brasil and Germany lose today.
    Niether team is what they used to be. I would say things look better
    for Brasil in that they have some decent young players coming up,
    Germany has one player.  All the other players J-Nag is picking are
    journeymen players in their late 20s or old players, who are still
    good, but older, like in their mid 30s.  In my mind they didn't pick
    the old guy I would have picked in Hummells.  I dont think I would
    pick Muller or even Kroos anymore, though I have less problem with
    Kroos.

    Brasil is missing a lot of players for this one, but the English love
    the idea of winning a match vs Brasil almost as much as winning a
    match vs Germany.

    So what is the deal with Neymar, he kinda went into a semi retirement
    about 10 years ago, he only plays in matches or cups where there is
    drinking and sex and parties and I get that, but you cant always have
    that.  And it just isnt the time for it now, when all these old, top
    Brasil players are getting charged with rape. I think little Robinho
    is the latest guy?

    Meanwhile France are the current top team in Europe, yet they still
    play with an old guy up front, granted he looks marvelous, but it
    just tells you, that maybe having old guys isnt such a bad thing, I
    am assuming Giroud is playing.

    For England they are probably 2nd or 3rd favourites this summer along
    with Portugal, so a win would definitely have an uplifting affect on
    the team, not to mention having the media declare them de facto EURO
    24 champions.

    For a Derby match Slovakia vs Austria have only met 5 times?  That
    cant be true?

    Aufstellung
    Slowakei

    Dubravka - Pekarik, Gyömber, Obert, Hancko - Kucka, Lobotka, Duda -
    Suslov, Bozenik, Haraslin

    Österreich

    Pentz - Lainer, Querfeld, Danso, Mwene - Seiwald, Grillitsch, Laimer,
    Baumgartner, Sabitzer - Gregoritsch




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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Sat Mar 23 14:50:17 2024
    SLV 0 - 2 Aut 88min

    Fairly straightforward win for Austria.

    It is interesting that the FOX network here is airing the England v
    Brasil game on "normal tv".



    On 2024-03-23 2:31 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    Still 0-1, austria look more likely to score than Slovakia, but you
    never know.

    Meanwhile in London, the English are getting ready for their first ever victory over Brasil.


    Aufstellung
    England

    Pickford - Walker, Stones, H. Maguire, Chilwell - Rice, Gallagher,
    Foden, Bellingham, Gordon - Watkins

    Brasilien

    Bento - Danilo, Fabricio Bruno, Lucas Beraldo, Wendell - Joao Gomes,
    Bruno Guimaraes, Lucas Paqueta - Raphinha, Rodrygo, Vinicius Junior




    On 2024-03-23 1:52 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    On 2024-03-23 1:06 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    We are now projecting Austria to win EURO 24.  That has to be the
    quickest goal ever scored in an International match.

    The Projection machine has been adjusted for HT and is no longer
    predicting Austria as champions, that is the problem with the machine,
    it was predicting a crazy 90-0 score after one minute!??!!?

    Slov 0 - 1 Aut HT





    On 2024-03-23 12:40 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    Ok, they are only friendlies, but 3 huge matches on today (four if
    you want to include T&T vs Kanada)!


    Slovakia vs Austria
    Local Derby match between two teams destined for glory this summer!
    Oh, and by "glory", I mean making it to the next round by finishing
    3rd in their groups.

    England vs Brasil and Germany vs France have S America and Europe's
    greatest teams ever vs England and France. I can say greatest if you
    go by World or Euro or Copa America trophies and if you went further
    by giving out points for 2nd or 3rd and final standings, probably
    Brazil and Germany would be ahead in that as well-I could be wrong
    about S america if you give a lot of weight to Copa americas.

    But, no one will be surprised if Both Brasil and Germany lose today.
    Niether team is what they used to be. I would say things look better
    for Brasil in that they have some decent young players coming up,
    Germany has one player.  All the other players J-Nag is picking are
    journeymen players in their late 20s or old players, who are still
    good, but older, like in their mid 30s.  In my mind they didn't pick
    the old guy I would have picked in Hummells.  I dont think I would
    pick Muller or even Kroos anymore, though I have less problem with
    Kroos.

    Brasil is missing a lot of players for this one, but the English
    love the idea of winning a match vs Brasil almost as much as winning
    a match vs Germany.

    So what is the deal with Neymar, he kinda went into a semi
    retirement about 10 years ago, he only plays in matches or cups
    where there is drinking and sex and parties and I get that, but you
    cant always have that.  And it just isnt the time for it now, when
    all these old, top Brasil players are getting charged with rape. I
    think little Robinho is the latest guy?

    Meanwhile France are the current top team in Europe, yet they still
    play with an old guy up front, granted he looks marvelous, but it
    just tells you, that maybe having old guys isnt such a bad thing, I
    am assuming Giroud is playing.

    For England they are probably 2nd or 3rd favourites this summer
    along with Portugal, so a win would definitely have an uplifting
    affect on the team, not to mention having the media declare them de
    facto EURO 24 champions.

    For a Derby match Slovakia vs Austria have only met 5 times?  That
    cant be true?

    Aufstellung
    Slowakei

    Dubravka - Pekarik, Gyömber, Obert, Hancko - Kucka, Lobotka, Duda -
    Suslov, Bozenik, Haraslin

    Österreich

    Pentz - Lainer, Querfeld, Danso, Mwene - Seiwald, Grillitsch,
    Laimer, Baumgartner, Sabitzer - Gregoritsch





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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to realmardinrss@proton.me on Sat Mar 23 21:24:05 2024
    Real_Mardin <realmardinrss@proton.me> wrote:
    FT England 0 - Brazil 1

    We are now projecting Brazil to receive a wildcard entry to Euro 2024 and
    win the tournament!


    STOP PRESS

    55 minutes France 0 - Germany 2

    We are now projecting Germany to win Euro 2024!


    No, they needed 8 seconds for their goal.


    Ciao,
    Werner


    RM


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  • From Real_Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 21:13:38 2024
    FT England 0 - Brazil 1

    We are now projecting Brazil to receive a wildcard entry to Euro 2024 and win the tournament!


    STOP PRESS

    55 minutes France 0 - Germany 2

    We are now projecting Germany to win Euro 2024!


    RM

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to magical tactics that will over come on Sat Mar 23 18:53:08 2024
    On 2024-03-23 5:43 p.m., Lléo wrote:
    On 23/03/2024 13:40, Binder Dundat wrote:
    Ok, they are only friendlies, but 3 huge matches on today (four if you
    want to include T&T vs Kanada)!


    Slovakia vs Austria
    Local Derby match between two teams destined for glory this summer!
    Oh, and by "glory", I mean making it to the next round by finishing
    3rd in their groups.


    Interesting, never heard of that one. Is there also a rivalry between
    Austria and the Czech Republic too? Was it there in the times of the old Czechoslovakia?

    It is not really a rivalry, though maybe Werner will tell me otherwise.
    I would say Germany and then Hungary, Swiss, Dutch, Italians maybe
    France would be bigger games for the Austrians.

    But anyhow, a good win vs a team that only lost by one goal, twice, to projected EURO 24 winners Portugal in qualifying.

    The record breaking goal that only took 6 seconds-which is a record-by Baumgartner was kinda Maradonaesque, in that he went through 3 or 4
    players from the centre circle to goal, though the shot was longer
    distance, but I thought he looked good in this game and the team looked
    more a unit. So even though they are in a tough group ( and we dont even
    know the 4th team), I think they will do better than the last coupe of
    EM catastrophes.



    England vs Brasil and Germany vs France have S America and Europe's
    greatest teams ever vs England and France. I can say greatest if you
    go by World or Euro or Copa America trophies and if you went further
    by giving out points for 2nd or 3rd and final standings, probably
    Brazil and Germany would be ahead in that as well-I could be wrong
    about S america if you give a lot of weight to Copa americas.

    But, no one will be surprised if Both Brasil and Germany lose today.
    Niether team is what they used to be. I would say things look better
    for Brasil in that they have some decent young players coming up,
    Germany has one player.  All the other players J-Nag is picking are
    journeymen players in their late 20s or old players, who are still
    good, but older, like in their mid 30s.  In my mind they didn't pick
    the old guy I would have picked in Hummells.  I dont think I would
    pick Muller or even Kroos anymore, though I have less problem with Kroos.

    I thought Kroos was very good today.

    But England 0 vs 1 Brasil, was the early match and England looked good
    for about 10 mins, but then Brasil had the better chances and probably
    deserved to win 1-0. Yes the were missing Harrykane and Trippier and
    walker went off early, it was still a pretty good England squad vs a
    brand new brasil team, with new players and new coaches and new shoes. Apparently if I believe the commentator the new Brasil Head Coach has
    managed 20 teams in Brazil in the last 24 years? Which means he must be
    good, like those numbers are better than Felix's.

    AS much as the English press love to declare England winner when they
    beat a team better than Denmark, they also love to shit on them too. So
    you know that Southgate will be fired, England will go out in the group
    stage and now all English players do not have the skill level of a 14
    year old Brasilian.


    I was going to ask what went wrong with Germany after 2014/2016, but it
    seems now they're beating France in Lyon?

    I want to say France are playing games in order to give the Germans a
    false sense of security, they were giving the ball away in their own
    half so easily, I will say Germany moved the ball better and controlled
    the pace more than what we have seen from them recently, but it may have
    more to do with France being bad. I mean maybe the France cycle is over
    and it is Italy's turn to be good, I cant keep up with all the cycles
    and how they change.

    But yes germany actually looked better than they have in years, I am
    gonna say it, and it is along running joke, but Leroy Sane and Emre Can
    were NOT playing today and look at the result. But seriously, Rudiger
    and Tah si an intereseting defensive pairing, I like Kimmich as a wing
    back, Mittlestadt was good until he almost own goaled at the end, the Journeymen call ups all did well enough, maybe J-Nag will develop some
    magical tactics that will over come the lack of quality.. Having said
    that Wirtz is a top player.



    Brasil is missing a lot of players for this one, but the English love
    the idea of winning a match vs Brasil almost as much as winning a
    match vs Germany.

    So what is the deal with Neymar, he kinda went into a semi retirement
    about 10 years ago, he only plays in matches or cups where there is
    drinking and sex and parties and I get that, but you cant always have
    that.


    Not only that, he seems to be injured as well.


    And it just isnt the time for it now, when all these old, top Brasil
    players are getting charged with rape. I think little Robinho is the
    latest guy?


    Arrested yesterday, will serve in Brasil the sentence he was given in
    Italy. And don't forget Daniel Alves too, jailed in Spain and awaiting sentencing I think.


    Meanwhile France are the current top team in Europe, yet they still
    play with an old guy up front, granted he looks marvelous, but it just
    tells you, that maybe having old guys isnt such a bad thing, I am
    assuming Giroud is playing.


    Didn't start, but was brought in.

    Would it be fair to say that the two finalists of the 2022 World Cup
    still seem to be the teams to beat in each side of the Atlantic?


    For England they are probably 2nd or 3rd favourites this summer along
    with Portugal, so a win would definitely have an uplifting affect on
    the team, not to mention having the media declare them de facto EURO
    24 champions.


    Business as usual, then :-)


    Best regards,

    Lléo


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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Sat Mar 23 19:04:43 2024
    Forgot to mention Kanada has qualified for Copa America.



    On 2024-03-23 6:53 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    On 2024-03-23 5:43 p.m., Lléo wrote:
    On 23/03/2024 13:40, Binder Dundat wrote:
    Ok, they are only friendlies, but 3 huge matches on today (four if
    you want to include T&T vs Kanada)!


    Slovakia vs Austria
    Local Derby match between two teams destined for glory this summer!
    Oh, and by "glory", I mean making it to the next round by finishing
    3rd in their groups.


    Interesting, never heard of that one. Is there also a rivalry between
    Austria and the Czech Republic too? Was it there in the times of the
    old Czechoslovakia?

    It is not really a rivalry, though maybe Werner will tell me otherwise.
    I would say Germany and then Hungary, Swiss, Dutch, Italians maybe
    France would be bigger games for the Austrians.

    But anyhow, a good win vs a team that only lost by one goal, twice, to projected EURO 24 winners Portugal in qualifying.

    The record breaking goal that only took 6 seconds-which is a record-by Baumgartner was kinda Maradonaesque, in that he went through 3 or 4
    players from the centre circle to goal, though the shot was longer
    distance, but I thought he looked good in this game and the team looked
    more a unit. So even though they are in a tough group ( and we dont even
    know the 4th team), I think they will do better than the last coupe of
    EM catastrophes.



    England vs Brasil and Germany vs France have S America and Europe's
    greatest teams ever vs England and France. I can say greatest if you
    go by World or Euro or Copa America trophies and if you went further
    by giving out points for 2nd or 3rd and final standings, probably
    Brazil and Germany would be ahead in that as well-I could be wrong
    about S america if you give a lot of weight to Copa americas.

    But, no one will be surprised if Both Brasil and Germany lose today.
    Niether team is what they used to be. I would say things look better
    for Brasil in that they have some decent young players coming up,
    Germany has one player.  All the other players J-Nag is picking are
    journeymen players in their late 20s or old players, who are still
    good, but older, like in their mid 30s.  In my mind they didn't pick
    the old guy I would have picked in Hummells.  I dont think I would
    pick Muller or even Kroos anymore, though I have less problem with
    Kroos.

    I thought Kroos was very good today.

    But England 0  vs 1 Brasil, was the early match and England looked good
    for about 10 mins, but then Brasil had the better chances and probably deserved to win 1-0.  Yes the were missing Harrykane and Trippier and
    walker went off early, it was still a pretty good England squad vs a
    brand new brasil team, with new players and new coaches and new shoes. Apparently if I believe the commentator the new Brasil Head Coach  has managed 20 teams in Brazil in the last 24 years?  Which means he must be good, like those numbers are better than Felix's.

    AS much as the English press love to declare England winner when they
    beat a team better than Denmark, they also love to shit on them too. So
    you know that Southgate will be fired, England will go out in the group
    stage and now all English players do not have the skill level of a 14
    year old Brasilian.


    I was going to ask what went wrong with Germany after 2014/2016, but
    it seems now they're beating France in Lyon?

    I want to say France are playing games in order to give the Germans a
    false sense of security, they were giving the ball away in their own
    half so easily,  I will say Germany moved the ball better and controlled
    the pace more than what we have seen from them recently, but it may have
    more to do with France being bad.  I mean maybe the France cycle is over
    and it is Italy's turn to be good, I cant keep up with all the cycles
    and how they change.

    But yes germany actually looked better than they have in years, I am
    gonna say it, and it is along running joke, but Leroy Sane and Emre Can
    were NOT playing today and look at the result.  But seriously, Rudiger
    and Tah si an intereseting defensive pairing, I like Kimmich as a wing
    back, Mittlestadt was good until he almost own goaled at the end, the Journeymen call ups all did well enough, maybe J-Nag will develop some magical tactics that will over come the lack of quality.. Having said
    that Wirtz is a top player.



    Brasil is missing a lot of players for this one, but the English love
    the idea of winning a match vs Brasil almost as much as winning a
    match vs Germany.

    So what is the deal with Neymar, he kinda went into a semi retirement
    about 10 years ago, he only plays in matches or cups where there is
    drinking and sex and parties and I get that, but you cant always have
    that.


    Not only that, he seems to be injured as well.


    And it just isnt the time for it now, when all these old, top Brasil
    players are getting charged with rape. I think little Robinho is the
    latest guy?


    Arrested yesterday, will serve in Brasil the sentence he was given in
    Italy. And don't forget Daniel Alves too, jailed in Spain and awaiting
    sentencing I think.


    Meanwhile France are the current top team in Europe, yet they still
    play with an old guy up front, granted he looks marvelous, but it
    just tells you, that maybe having old guys isnt such a bad thing, I
    am assuming Giroud is playing.


    Didn't start, but was brought in.

    Would it be fair to say that the two finalists of the 2022 World Cup
    still seem to be the teams to beat in each side of the Atlantic?


    For England they are probably 2nd or 3rd favourites this summer along
    with Portugal, so a win would definitely have an uplifting affect on
    the team, not to mention having the media declare them de facto EURO
    24 champions.


    Business as usual, then :-)


    Best regards,

    Lléo



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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 24 09:48:36 2024
    On 2024-03-23 5:13 p.m., Real_Mardin wrote:
    FT England 0  - Brazil 1

    We are now projecting Brazil to receive a wildcard entry to Euro 2024
    and win the tournament!


    STOP PRESS
    55 minutes France 0 - Germany 2

    You know a team is not taking things seriously when Havertz scores
    against you.


    We are now projecting Germany to win Euro 2024!


    RM

    According to the odds from this morning, top 5 favourites in order are
    1 England
    2 France
    3 Germany
    4 Spain
    5 Portugal

    Germany will have a tough time getting out of their group, let alone
    winning the thing! I think I would take Portugal right now.

    For those wondering about quickest goals scored in International play, Baumgartner's goal was the quickest ever at 6 seconds. About an hour
    later Wirtz scored Germany's quickest goal ever, but it was a full
    second slower.

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Sun Mar 24 10:00:02 2024
    On 2024-03-23 16:53, Binder Dundat wrote:
    On 2024-03-23 5:43 p.m., Lléo wrote:
    On 23/03/2024 13:40, Binder Dundat wrote:


    I thought Kroos was very good today.

    he was more energetic than usual.


    I was going to ask what went wrong with Germany after 2014/2016, but
    it seems now they're beating France in Lyon?

    I want to say France are playing games in order to give the Germans a
    false sense of security, they were giving the ball away in their own
    half so easily,  I will say Germany moved the ball better and controlled
    the pace more than what we have seen from them recently, but it may have
    more to do with France being bad.  I mean maybe the France cycle is over
    and it is Italy's turn to be good, I cant keep up with all the cycles
    and how they change.

    But yes germany actually looked better than they have in years, I am
    gonna say it, and it is along running joke, but Leroy Sane and Emre Can
    were NOT playing today and look at the result.  But seriously, Rudiger
    and Tah si an intereseting defensive pairing, I like Kimmich as a wing
    back, Mittlestadt was good until he almost own goaled at the end, the Journeymen call ups all did well enough, maybe J-Nag will develop some magical tactics that will over come the lack of quality.. Having said
    that Wirtz is a top player.


    I think moving Kimmich back to RB to make room for Andrich (who looked
    good in the role and has been darn good for Leverkusen as well) might
    have been a very good move. Musiala and Wirtz were excellent in that game.

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Mon Mar 25 15:55:23 2024
    Binder Dundat <dundat@mail.com> wrote:
    On 2024-03-23 5:43 p.m., Lléo wrote:
    On 23/03/2024 13:40, Binder Dundat wrote:
    Ok, they are only friendlies, but 3 huge matches on today (four if you
    want to include T&T vs Kanada)!


    Slovakia vs Austria
    Local Derby match between two teams destined for glory this summer!
    Oh, and by "glory", I mean making it to the next round by finishing
    3rd in their groups.


    Interesting, never heard of that one. Is there also a rivalry between
    Austria and the Czech Republic too? Was it there in the times of the old
    Czechoslovakia?

    It is not really a rivalry, though maybe Werner will tell me otherwise.

    No, it’s not. For starters, Slovakia and Austria have never met outside of friendlies so far. Vienna and Bratislava are just really close together.

    Things were a bit different with old Czechoslovakia, but even there it
    wasn’t as storied as meeting Hungary.


    I would say Germany and then Hungary, Swiss, Dutch, Italians maybe
    France would be bigger games for the Austrians.

    One of the above is not like the others.

    Hungary, sure, always fun to break out the old joke, Switzerland OK, but
    more on club level. Italy, France, Netherlands - nah, never been in the
    same ballpark.

    Interestingly enough, I’d add Sweden to the list instead.


    But anyhow, a good win vs a team that only lost by one goal, twice, to projected EURO 24 winners Portugal in qualifying.

    The record breaking goal that only took 6 seconds-which is a record-by Baumgartner was kinda Maradonaesque, in that he went through 3 or 4
    players from the centre circle to goal, though the shot was longer
    distance, but I thought he looked good in this game and the team looked
    more a unit. So even though they are in a tough group ( and we dont even
    know the 4th team), I think they will do better than the last coupe of
    EM catastrophes.

    2021 wasn’t a catastrophe (2016 was).


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to llb.moura@gmail.com on Tue Mar 26 09:33:22 2024
    Lléo <llb.moura@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 25/03/2024 12:55, Werner Pichler wrote:
    Binder Dundat <dundat@mail.com> wrote:
    On 2024-03-23 5:43 p.m., Lléo wrote:
    [I asked "is Austria vs Slovakia a rivalry?"] >> I would say Germany
    and then Hungary, Swiss, Dutch, Italians maybe
    France would be bigger games for the Austrians.

    One of the above is not like the others.

    Hungary, sure, always fun to break out the old joke, Switzerland OK, but
    more on club level. Italy, France, Netherlands - nah, never been in the
    same ballpark.

    Interestingly enough, I’d add Sweden to the list instead.


    Ok, I can see Germany, Hungary and Switzerland. But why Sweden?

    I remember you once mentioned the qualifiers to WC'1974, but then surely there have been other close matches between these two before or since?

    1972 Euro qualifiers (both out)
    1974 WC qualifiers (where it really started, Sweden wins)
    1978 World Cup (Austria wins)
    1994 WC qualifiers (Sweden)
    1998 WC qualifiers (Austria)
    2014 WC qualifiers (Sweden)
    2016 Euro qualifiers (Austria)
    2024 Euro qualifiers (Austria)


    Yeah, Sweden is a country with a comparable population that we’ve met a
    lot, mostly in close encounters, and it’s been a seesaw as to who wins
    (there were few draws).


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Jesper Lauridsen@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 26 23:58:20 2024
    On 26/03/2024 02.35, Lléo wrote:
    On 25/03/2024 12:55, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Hungary, sure, always fun to break out the old joke, Switzerland OK, but
    more on club level. Italy, France, Netherlands - nah, never been in the
    same ballpark.

    Interestingly enough, I’d add Sweden to the list instead.


    Ok, I can see Germany, Hungary and Switzerland. But why Sweden?

    I remember you once mentioned the qualifiers to WC'1974, but then surely there have been other close matches between these two before or since?

    I can think of one historic Austria match in Sweden... Not against
    Sweden, though.

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Jesper Lauridsen on Wed Mar 27 07:31:10 2024
    Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@stofanet.dk> wrote:
    On 26/03/2024 02.35, Lléo wrote:
    On 25/03/2024 12:55, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Hungary, sure, always fun to break out the old joke, Switzerland OK, but >>> more on club level. Italy, France, Netherlands - nah, never been in the
    same ballpark.

    Interestingly enough, I’d add Sweden to the list instead.


    Ok, I can see Germany, Hungary and Switzerland. But why Sweden?

    I remember you once mentioned the qualifiers to WC'1974, but then surely
    there have been other close matches between these two before or since?

    I can think of one historic Austria match in Sweden... Not against
    Sweden, though.

    By now I‘ve made my peace with that one. It got me a couple of free drinks
    in Tórshavn after all.

    Ciao,
    Werner

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