...the most overhyped manager in recent times?
I believe the answer is a resounding yes.
On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 12:25:00 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
I hope they would not be
foolish enough to go with Gerrard.
No one wants Gerrard, not even the most die hard LFC scousers.
We have seen enough of this nostalgic BS with Lampard
and Solksjaer.
Al Kamista wrote:
On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 12:25:00 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
I hope they would not be
foolish enough to go with Gerrard.
No one wants Gerrard, not even the most die hard LFC scousers.
No, and I mean NO, Liverpool fan I know wants Steven Gerrard to
manage Liverpool... anymore. The Saudi Arabia thing seems to have
pissed a lot of them off. His rep has gone way down.
We have seen enough of this nostalgic BS with Lampard
and Solksjaer.
I can't understand the logic that because a player played well for
Club A they will make a good manager for Club A. Playing and
managing football clubs are two different things, so to me it's a
non sequitur.
On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 12:56:13 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
On 2024-02-14 07:29, Blueshirt wrote:
Al Kamista wrote:I would assume that would be the case, but you never know - remember
On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 12:25:00 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
I hope they would not be
foolish enough to go with Gerrard.
No one wants Gerrard, not even the most die hard LFC scousers.
No, and I mean NO, Liverpool fan I know wants Steven Gerrard to
manage Liverpool... anymore. The Saudi Arabia thing seems to have
pissed a lot of them off. His rep has gone way down.
Souness?
Some do surprise. There was no reason to believe Zidane would make a
We have seen enough of this nostalgic BS with Lampard
and Solksjaer.
I can't understand the logic that because a player played well for
Club A they will make a good manager for Club A. Playing and
managing football clubs are two different things, so to me it's a
non sequitur.
good manager - in fact, things about his personality made me think the
opposite.
There is Guardiola as well.
On 2024-02-16 06:17, Al Kamista wrote:
On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 12:56:13 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
On 2024-02-14 07:29, Blueshirt wrote:
Al Kamista wrote:I would assume that would be the case, but you never know - remember
On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 12:25:00 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
I hope they would not be
foolish enough to go with Gerrard.
No one wants Gerrard, not even the most die hard LFC scousers.
No, and I mean NO, Liverpool fan I know wants Steven Gerrard to
manage Liverpool... anymore. The Saudi Arabia thing seems to have
pissed a lot of them off. His rep has gone way down.
Souness?
Some do surprise. There was no reason to believe Zidane would make a
We have seen enough of this nostalgic BS with Lampard
and Solksjaer.
I can't understand the logic that because a player played well for
Club A they will make a good manager for Club A. Playing and
managing football clubs are two different things, so to me it's a
non sequitur.
good manager - in fact, things about his personality made me think the
opposite.
There is Guardiola as well.
I think there was reason to believe Pep would be good based on his
leadership qualities as a player, and his record coaching within the organization. Zidane's disciplinary record and lack of coaching made me
doubt he would work well, given that other prominent coaches had not
lasted long at RM.
But then you have Xavi. Guardiola and Zidane are the 2 big exceptions.
I am not convinced that Zidane is all that. The sample size is too small
and he inherited a stellar squad at RM.
I think there was reason to believe Pep would be good based on his
leadership qualities as a player, and his record coaching within the organization. Zidane's disciplinary record and lack of coaching made me
doubt he would work well, given that other prominent coaches had not
lasted long at RM.
But then you have Xavi. Guardiola and Zidane are the 2 big exceptions.
I am not convinced that Zidane is all that. The sample size is too small
and he inherited a stellar squad at RM.
MH wrote:
I think there was reason to believe Pep would be good based on his
leadership qualities as a player, and his record coaching within the
organization. Zidane's disciplinary record and lack of coaching made
me doubt he would work well, given that other prominent coaches had
not lasted long at RM.
But then you have Xavi. Guardiola and Zidane are the 2 big
exceptions. I am not convinced that Zidane is all that. The sample
size is too small and he inherited a stellar squad at RM.
It's an interesting question: which players end up being good coaches?
There are a few with almost zero professional playing experience
(Sacchi, Mourinho, Tuchel, Nagelsmann), there are those who were honest journeymen who made it to the top flight but never really reached star
status (Klopp, Allegri, Emery, Lippi, Ranieri, Ferguson), and others who
were national-team level players, even though not necessarily superstars (Conte, Ancelotti, Arteta(*), Guardiola, Capello, Luis Enrique,
Deschamps). Zidane is indeed the exception, a true superstar with a successful coaching career
his luck at the club level).
I was looking at the members of the Italian 2006 WC winning squad. The
ones who have tried their hand at coaching:
Grosso
De Rossi
Cannavaro
Gattuso
Gilardino
Amelia
Barone
F. Inzaghi
Pirlo
Oddo
Gattuso, Pirlo, Inzaghi and Grosso have had their chances at
high-profile clubs (and now De Rossi too), none of them too successful. Probably the one who I would rate at this moment as the most likely to succeed is Gilardino. Go figure.
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