Let's put lineups, tinkering and comments in this thread. It looks like we will have the following lineups

Armata (Italy-Futbolmetrix)
Wakas (Sub-Saharan Africa- Futbolmetrix)
Wonderland (Austria+Swi+Lie - Werner)
Bungs (England - Werner)
Waffles (Benelux - MH)
Yet To be Named Spaniards (Spain - MH)
Vikings (Scandinavia (+Iceland and Faroe?) - Jesper)
Jogo (Brazil - Jesus)
Soldner/Flickers (Germany - Jesper)?
Sorta Austro-Hungarian Empire (Lands of the Austro-Hungarian empire without Austria - Binder)?
Tugas (Portugal - HASM) ?

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On 2023-09-17 14:29, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Let's put lineups, tinkering and comments in this thread. It looks like we will have the following lineups

Armata (Italy-Futbolmetrix)
Wakas (Sub-Saharan Africa- Futbolmetrix)
Wonderland (Austria+Swi+Lie - Werner)
Bungs (England - Werner)
Waffles (Benelux - MH)
Yet To be Named Spaniards (Spain - MH)
Vikings (Scandinavia (+Iceland and Faroe?) - Jesper)
Jogo (Brazil - Jesus)
Soldner/Flickers (Germany - Jesper)?
Sorta Austro-Hungarian Empire (Lands of the Austro-Hungarian empire without Austria - Binder)?
Tugas (Portugal - HASM) ?

here are my preliminary entries - will double check postions tomorrow AM
with UEFA sites, and will almost certainly fiddle once lineups come out:

Siglo de Oro (Spain)

DF: Sergio Ramos (Sevilla), Alex Balde (Barca), Carvajal (Real Madrid)
MF: Rodri (Man City), Gavi (Barcelona) Merino (Real Sociedad), Isco
(Real Betis)
FW: Morata (Atletico, Captain), Dani Olmo (RBL), Ansu Fati (Brighton), Oyarzabal (Real Sociedad), Moreno (Villareal)

(subs, reminder to myself DF: Azpilicueta, Nacho, MIranda, Le Normand
MF: Fabian Ruiz, Thiago, Oliver Torres, Pedri (injured ?) FW:
Asensio, Borja Iglesias,


Waffles and Windmills (Benelux)

DF. Van Dijk (Liverpool), Alderweireld (Antwerp), Dumfries (Inter)
MF: Tielemans (Aston Villa), De Ketelaere (Atalanta), F. De Jong
(Barcelona), De Roon (Atalanta)
FW: Lukaku (ROma, captain) Gakpo (Liverpool), Luuk De Jong (PSV),
Bakayoko (PSV), Doku (Man City)

(On deck (reminder to myself) DF Aké, Theate, Hateboer MF: Vanaken,
Xavi Simons(RBL) Koopmeiners, FW: Lukebakio (Sevilla) Openda (RBL)
Malen (BvB) Trossard (Arsenal) Lamine Yamal

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On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:29:22 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Let's put lineups, tinkering and comments in this thread. It looks like we will have the following lineups

Armata (Italy-Futbolmetrix)
Wakas (Sub-Saharan Africa- Futbolmetrix)
Wonderland (Austria+Swi+Lie - Werner)
Bungs (England - Werner)
Waffles (Benelux - MH)
Yet To be Named Spaniards (Spain - MH)
Vikings (Scandinavia (+Iceland and Faroe?) - Jesper)
Jogo (Brazil - Jesus)
Soldner/Flickers (Germany - Jesper)?
Sorta Austro-Hungarian Empire (Lands of the Austro-Hungarian empire without Austria - Binder)?
Tugas (Portugal - HASM) ?

Preliminary Bungs

DF: Trippier (Newcastle), Tavernier (Rangers), Gomez (Liverpool)
MF: Barnes (Newcastle), Loftus-Cheek (Milan), Foden (Man City), March (Brighton)
FW: Wilson (Newcastle), Kane © (Bayern), Nketiah (Arsenal), Rashford (Man United), Welbeck (Brighton)


Preliminary Wonderland

DF: Schär (Newcastle), Alaba (Real Madrid), Wüthrich (Sturm Graz)
MF: Sabitzer (Dortmund), Schlager (Leipzig), Xhaka (Leverkusen), Zuber (AEK), Schwab (PAOK)
FW: Okafor (Milan), Arnautović © (Inter), Zeqiri (Genk), Gregoritsch (Freiburg)


I'll be attending Milan vs Newcastle tomorrow, so I couldn't resist putting a ton of players from those
two teams into the line-ups (I also notice that now that Okafor is playing for a 'real' team UEFA have
paid attention and finally marked him as a forward. Not that he's been scoring any goals.)

So I'd recommend to go and bet on a scoreless draw in that match, it's basically free money.


Ciao,
Werner

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On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 4:29:22 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Preliminary Armata:
DF: Dimarco, Di Lorenzo, Biraghi
MF: Barella, Zaccagni, Zaniolo, Frattesi, Grifo
FW: Immobile (c), Belotti, Politano, Raspadori

Subs/reminder to myself:
DF: Mancini, Bastoni, Calabria, Florenzi, Parisi, Ruggeri, Zappacosta, Romagnoli, Casale, Ogbonna, Emerson, Spinazzola, Bonucci, Scalvini, Toloi
MF: Lo. Pellegrini, Cristante, Cataldi, Mandragora, Bonaventura, Tonali, Bove, Sottil
FW: Scamacca. El Shaarawy

More choices in defense than what I originally thought, but still ugh.

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On 2023-09-17 14:29, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Let's put lineups, tinkering and comments in this thread. It looks like we will have the following lineups

Armata (Italy-Futbolmetrix)
Wakas (Sub-Saharan Africa- Futbolmetrix)
Wonderland (Austria+Swi+Lie - Werner)
Bungs (England - Werner)
Waffles (Benelux - MH)
Yet To be Named Spaniards (Spain - MH)
Vikings (Scandinavia (+Iceland and Faroe?) - Jesper)
Jogo (Brazil - Jesus)
Soldner/Flickers (Germany - Jesper)?
Sorta Austro-Hungarian Empire (Lands of the Austro-Hungarian empire without Austria - Binder)?
Tugas (Portugal - HASM) ?

No Argentines ? No all americas (except Argentina and Brazil)? No
North Africa? No CONCACAF Rockers ?
And above all no France ?

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On 2023-09-17, Futbolmetrix <daniele.paserman@gmail.com> wrote:

Vikings (Scandinavia (+Iceland and Faroe?) - Jesper)

The islands have always been included, as they're proper Viking lands.

Vikings:
FW Haaland (C), Solbakken (Olympiacos), S�rloth (Villarreal), Isak (Newcastle), Ingvartsen (Nordsj�lland)
MF Frederiksberg (Klaksv�k), Gr�nb�k (Bod�/Glimt), Pellegrino (Bod�/Glimt), Breivik (Molde)
DF Gunnlaugsson (Breidablik), Christensen (Barcelona), Bah (Benfica)



Flickers:
FW Werner (C) (RB), Ngankam (Frankfurt), Behrens (Union), Gnabry
(Bayern), H�ler (Freiburg)
MF San� (Bayern), Gross (Brighton), Andrich (Lev), Wirtz (Lev)
DF Can (BVB), Bisseck (Inter), Tah (Lev)

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Tugas (Portugal - HASM) ?

With the decline of CR7 the Tugas didn't do too well last year, and they
won't this year either. Lots of scorers, but no consistent ones, which
makes it hard to get a high UNT score.

Tugas for MD1:

FW:
Rafa Silva (Benfica)
João Félix (Barcelona)
Ricardo Leão (Milan)
Diogo Jota (Liverpool),
Conçalo Ramos© (PSG)
MF:
Bernardo Silva (Man City)
Bruno Fernandes (Man United)
Ivan Cavaleiro (Lille)
Vitinha (PSG)
DF:
Raphaël Guerreiro (Bayern),
Gonçalo Inácio (Man City),
Alexandre Penetra (AZ Alkmaar)

-- HASM

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MH <MHnospam@ucalgary.ca> writes:

And above all no France ?

There wasn't a France either last year, guess Ixion is still upset.

-- HASM

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On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 6:21:26 PM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

On 2023-09-17, Futbolmetrix <daniele....@gmail.com> wrote:

Vikings (Scandinavia (+Iceland and Faroe?) - Jesper)

The islands have always been included, as they're proper Viking lands.

Let's stick to my original Wakas, will tinker later:

DF: Tapsoba (BUR, Bayer Leverkusen), Mbemba (DRC, Marseille), Ndicka (CIV, Roma)
MF: Kudus (GHA, West Ham), Anguissa (CMR, Napoli), Kanga (GAB, Red Star Belgrade), Duncan (GHA, Fiorentina)
FW: Osimhen (NGA, Napoli), Boniface (NGA, Leverkusen), Haller (CIV, Dortmund), Orban (NGA, Gent), Ismaila Sarr (Senegal, Marseille)

Watchlist: too many to list, but keep an eye on Red Star Belgrade, Ferencvaros, Club Brugge, Genk, Cukaricki, Besiktas, Fenerbahce...ok, way too many teams to list!

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On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 4:43:41 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-17 14:29, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Let's put lineups, tinkering and comments in this thread. It looks like we will have the following lineups

Armata (Italy-Futbolmetrix)
Wakas (Sub-Saharan Africa- Futbolmetrix)
Wonderland (Austria+Swi+Lie - Werner)
Bungs (England - Werner)
Waffles (Benelux - MH)
Yet To be Named Spaniards (Spain - MH)
Vikings (Scandinavia (+Iceland and Faroe?) - Jesper)
Jogo (Brazil - Jesus)
Soldner/Flickers (Germany - Jesper)?
Sorta Austro-Hungarian Empire (Lands of the Austro-Hungarian empire without Austria - Binder)?
Tugas (Portugal - HASM) ?

No Argentines ?

Messi's Orphans (maybe the resurfaced Daniel Windler will pick it up, otherwise it'll stay a low maintenance team)

DF: Otamendi, Molina, Lisandro Martinez
MF: MacAllister, Palacios, De Paul, Paredes
FW: Lautaro Martinez (c), Dybala, Icardi, Alvarez, Di Maria

Watchlist: Nicolas Gonzalez, Joaquin Correa, Marcos Acuna, Erik Lamela

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Em domingo, 17 de setembro de 2023 às 17:29:22 UTC-3, Futbolmetrix escreveu:

Let's put lineups, tinkering and comments in this thread. It looks like we will have the following lineups

Reposting:

JOGO APRESENTÁVEL:

Rodinei, Marquinhos, Juan Jesus;
Fred, Bruno Guimarães, Casemiro, Taison;
Vinícius Júnior (C), Rodrygo, Raphinha, Caio Vidal, Martinelli

Tchau!
Jesus Petry

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There wasn't a France either last year, guess Ixion is still upset.

Quickly assembled French team: "Les Micronos"
(Named from a devalued president.)

FW:
Mpappé© (PSG)
Giroud (Milan)
Benrahma (West Ham)
Griezmann (Atlético)
Cimignani (Lugano)
MF:
Camavinga (Real Madrid)
Ndombélé (Galatasaray)
Tchouameni (Real Madrid)
Dina Ebimbe (Eintracht Frankfurt)
DF:
Upamecano (Bayern)
Hernández (PSG)
Digne (Aston Villa)

-- HASM

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On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 6:36:57 AM UTC-4, rec.sport.soccer wrote:

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 6:21:26 PM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

On 2023-09-17, Futbolmetrix <daniele....@gmail.com> wrote:

Vikings (Scandinavia (+Iceland and Faroe?) - Jesper)

The islands have always been included, as they're proper Viking lands.

Let's stick to my original Wakas, will tinker later:

DF: Tapsoba (BUR, Bayer Leverkusen), Mbemba (DRC, Marseille), Ndicka (CIV, Roma)
MF: Kudus (GHA, West Ham), Anguissa (CMR, Napoli), Kanga (GAB, Red Star Belgrade), Duncan (GHA, Fiorentina)
FW: Osimhen (NGA, Napoli), Boniface (NGA, Leverkusen), Haller (CIV, Dortmund), Orban (NGA, Gent), Ismaila Sarr (Senegal, Marseille)

Osimhen captain

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On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 00:21:26 UTC+2, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

On 2023-09-17, Futbolmetrix <daniele....@gmail.com> wrote:

Vikings (Scandinavia (+Iceland and Faroe?) - Jesper)

The islands have always been included, as they're proper Viking lands.

Vikings:
FW Haaland (C), Solbakken (Olympiacos), Sørloth (Villarreal), Isak (Newcastle), Ingvartsen (Nordsjælland)
MF Frederiksberg (Klaksvík), Grønbæk (Bodø/Glimt), Pellegrino (Bodø/Glimt), Breivik (Molde)
DF Gunnlaugsson (Breidablik), Christensen (Barcelona), Bah (Benfica)

Poulsen starting ahead of Werner. Poulsen in, Ingvartsen out.

Flickers:
FW Werner (C) (RB), Ngankam (Frankfurt), Behrens (Union), Gnabry
(Bayern), Höler (Freiburg)
MF Sané (Bayern), Gross (Brighton), Andrich (Lev), Wirtz (Lev)
DF Can (BVB), Bisseck (Inter), Tah (Lev)

Keep Werner, but move the armband to Sané. (what a sad statement)

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On 2023-09-18 13:35, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-17 14:29, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Let's put lineups, tinkering and comments in this thread. It looks
like we will have the following lineups

Armata (Italy-Futbolmetrix)
Wakas (Sub-Saharan Africa- Futbolmetrix)
Wonderland (Austria+Swi+Lie - Werner)
Bungs (England - Werner)
Waffles (Benelux - MH)
Yet To be Named Spaniards (Spain - MH)
Vikings (Scandinavia (+Iceland and Faroe?) - Jesper)
Jogo (Brazil - Jesus)
Soldner/Flickers (Germany - Jesper)?
Sorta Austro-Hungarian Empire  (Lands of the Austro-Hungarian empire
without Austria - Binder)?
Tugas (Portugal - HASM) ?

here are my preliminary entries - will double check postions tomorrow AM
with UEFA sites, and will almost certainly fiddle once lineups come out:

Siglo de Oro (Spain)

DF: Sergio Ramos (Sevilla), Alex Balde (Barca), Carvajal (Real Madrid)
MF: Rodri (Man City), Gavi (Barcelona) Merino (Real Sociedad), Isco
(Real Betis)
FW: Morata (Atletico, Captain), Dani Olmo (RBL), Ansu Fati (Brighton), Oyarzabal (Real Sociedad), Moreno (Villareal)

Dani Olmo is injured. Out with him, in with Lamine Yamal

(subs, reminder to myself DF: Azpilicueta, Nacho, MIranda, Le Normand
MF: Fabian Ruiz, Thiago, Oliver Torres, Pedri (injured ?)       FW: Asensio, Borja Iglesias, Lamine Yamal

Waffles and Windmills (Benelux)

DF.  Van Dijk (Liverpool), Alderweireld (Antwerp), Dumfries (Inter)
MF:  Tielemans (Aston Villa), De Ketelaere (Atalanta), F. De Jong (Barcelona), De Roon (Atalanta)
FW: Lukaku (ROma, captain) Gakpo (Liverpool), Luuk De Jong (PSV),
Bakayoko (PSV), Doku (Man City)

(On deck (reminder to myself) DF Aké, Theate, Hateboer  MF: Vanaken,
Xavi Simons(RBL) Koopmeiners,  FW: Lukebakio (Sevilla) Openda (RBL)
Malen (BvB) Trossard (Arsenal)

Sub in Xavi Simons and Lois Openda for De Ketelaere and Gakpo.

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On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:34:25 PM UTC-4, HASM wrote:

There wasn't a France either last year, guess Ixion is still upset.

Quickly assembled French team: "Les Micronos"

First goal of the Use-the-NT season is a left-out Micronos goal: Simakan

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On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:31:17 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

(On deck (reminder to myself) DF Aké, Theate, Hateboer MF: Vanaken,
Xavi Simons(RBL) Koopmeiners, FW: Lukebakio (Sevilla) Openda (RBL)
Malen (BvB) Trossard (Arsenal)

Sub in Xavi Simons and Lois Openda for De Ketelaere and Gakpo.

Hmm... Xavi Simons is listed as a forward on uefa.com

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On 2023-09-19 11:13, rec.sport.soccer wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:31:17 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

(On deck (reminder to myself) DF Aké, Theate, Hateboer MF: Vanaken,
Xavi Simons(RBL) Koopmeiners, FW: Lukebakio (Sevilla) Openda (RBL)
Malen (BvB) Trossard (Arsenal)

Sub in Xavi Simons and Lois Openda for De Ketelaere and Gakpo.

Hmm... Xavi Simons is listed as a forward on uefa.com

Good thing he did not score then. He really is a midfielder, but for
future rounds I will only use him, if at all, as a forward.

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On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:59:48 PM UTC-4, rec.sport.soccer wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:34:25 PM UTC-4, HASM wrote:

There wasn't a France either last year, guess Ixion is still upset.

Quickly assembled French team: "Les Micronos"

First goal of the Use-the-NT season is a left-out Micronos goal: Simakan

Firs UtN goal of the season goes to the Wonderland (Schlager).
Elia with a left-out Waka goal

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On 2023-09-19 10:31, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-18 13:35, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-17 14:29, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Let's put lineups, tinkering and comments in this thread. It looks
like we will have the following lineups

Armata (Italy-Futbolmetrix)
Wakas (Sub-Saharan Africa- Futbolmetrix)
Wonderland (Austria+Swi+Lie - Werner)
Bungs (England - Werner)
Waffles (Benelux - MH)
Yet To be Named Spaniards (Spain - MH)
Vikings (Scandinavia (+Iceland and Faroe?) - Jesper)
Jogo (Brazil - Jesus)
Soldner/Flickers (Germany - Jesper)?
Sorta Austro-Hungarian Empire  (Lands of the Austro-Hungarian empire
without Austria - Binder)?
Tugas (Portugal - HASM) ?

here are my preliminary entries - will double check postions tomorrow
AM with UEFA sites, and will almost certainly fiddle once lineups come
out:

Siglo de Oro (Spain)

DF: Sergio Ramos (Sevilla), Alex Balde (Barca), Carvajal (Real Madrid)
MF: Rodri (Man City), Gavi (Barcelona) Merino (Real Sociedad), Isco
(Real Betis)
FW: Morata (Atletico, Captain), Dani Olmo (RBL), Ansu Fati (Brighton),
Oyarzabal (Real Sociedad), Moreno (Villareal)

Dani Olmo is injured.  Out with him, in with Lamine Yamal.

Yamal on bench but I will leave him in.

(subs, reminder to myself DF: Azpilicueta, Nacho, MIranda, Le Normand
MF: Fabian Ruiz, Thiago, Oliver Torres, Pedri (injured ?)       FW:
Asensio, Borja Iglesias, Lamine Yamal


Waffles and Windmills (Benelux)

DF.  Van Dijk (Liverpool), Alderweireld (Antwerp), Dumfries (Inter)
MF:  Tielemans (Aston Villa), De Ketelaere (Atalanta), F. De Jong
(Barcelona), De Roon (Atalanta)
FW: Lukaku (ROma, captain) Gakpo (Liverpool), Luuk De Jong (PSV),
Bakayoko (PSV), Doku (Man City)

(On deck (reminder to myself) DF Aké, Theate, Hateboer  MF: Vanaken,
Xavi Simons(RBL) Koopmeiners,  FW: Lukebakio (Sevilla) Openda (RBL)
Malen (BvB) Trossard (Arsenal)

Sub in Xavi Simons and Lois Openda  for De Ketelaere and Gakpo.

Well they looked OK, but no goals.
Doku on bench and Pep is not big on using all his subs. Doku out, Gakpo
back in.





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On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 2:52:10 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-19 11:13, rec.sport.soccer wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:31:17 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

(On deck (reminder to myself) DF Aké, Theate, Hateboer MF: Vanaken,
Xavi Simons(RBL) Koopmeiners, FW: Lukebakio (Sevilla) Openda (RBL)
Malen (BvB) Trossard (Arsenal)

Sub in Xavi Simons and Lois Openda for De Ketelaere and Gakpo.

Hmm... Xavi Simons is listed as a forward on uefa.com

Good thing he did not score then. He really is a midfielder, but for
future rounds I will only use him, if at all, as a forward.

I'm still counting 6 forwards for the Waffles (even after the Doku sub):

Lukaku(c), Xavi Simons, Openda, L. De Jong, Bakayoko and Gakpo.

Simons and Openda are locked in, you have to get rid of one of the others.

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On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 3:00:24 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:59:48 PM UTC-4, rec.sport.soccer wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:34:25 PM UTC-4, HASM wrote:

There wasn't a France either last year, guess Ixion is still upset.

Quickly assembled French team: "Les Micronos"

First goal of the Use-the-NT season is a left-out Micronos goal: Simakan

Firs UtN goal of the season goes to the Wonderland (Schlager).
Elia with a left-out Waka goal

Also a Cisleithanian left-out goal (Sesko)

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On 2023-09-19 13:01, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 3:00:24 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:59:48 PM UTC-4, rec.sport.soccer wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:34:25 PM UTC-4, HASM wrote:

There wasn't a France either last year, guess Ixion is still upset.

Quickly assembled French team: "Les Micronos"

First goal of the Use-the-NT season is a left-out Micronos goal: Simakan

Firs UtN goal of the season goes to the Wonderland (Schlager).
Elia with a left-out Waka goal

Also a Cisleithanian left-out goal (Sesko)

Barrios with a missed gold for Siglo
Gavi with a real goal.

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On 2023-09-19 14:16, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-19 13:01, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 3:00:24 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote: >>> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:59:48 PM UTC-4, rec.sport.soccer

wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:34:25 PM UTC-4, HASM wrote:

There wasn't a France either last year, guess Ixion is still upset. >>>>> Quickly assembled French team: "Les Micronos"

First goal of the Use-the-NT season is a left-out Micronos goal:
Simakan

Firs UtN goal of the season goes to the Wonderland (Schlager).
Elia with a left-out Waka goal

Also a Cisleithanian left-out goal (Sesko)

Barrios with a missed gold for Siglo
Gavi with a real goal.

Also one for the Tugas with Felix

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On 2023-09-19 12:59, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 2:52:10 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-19 11:13, rec.sport.soccer wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:31:17 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

(On deck (reminder to myself) DF Aké, Theate, Hateboer MF: Vanaken, >>>>> Xavi Simons(RBL) Koopmeiners, FW: Lukebakio (Sevilla) Openda (RBL)
Malen (BvB) Trossard (Arsenal)

Sub in Xavi Simons and Lois Openda for De Ketelaere and Gakpo.

Hmm... Xavi Simons is listed as a forward on uefa.com

Good thing he did not score then. He really is a midfielder, but for
future rounds I will only use him, if at all, as a forward.

I'm still counting 6 forwards for the Waffles (even after the Doku sub):

Lukaku(c), Xavi Simons, Openda, L. De Jong, Bakayoko and Gakpo.

Simons and Openda are locked in, you have to get rid of one of the others.

OK, Gakpo back out







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On 2023-09-19 14:18, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-19 14:16, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-19 13:01, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 3:00:24 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote: >>>> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:59:48 PM UTC-4,

rec.sport.soccer wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:34:25 PM UTC-4, HASM wrote: >>>>>>> There wasn't a France either last year, guess Ixion is still upset. >>>>>> Quickly assembled French team: "Les Micronos"
First goal of the Use-the-NT season is a left-out Micronos goal:
Simakan

Firs UtN goal of the season goes to the Wonderland (Schlager).
Elia with a left-out Waka goal

Also a Cisleithanian left-out goal (Sesko)

Barrios with a missed gold for Siglo
Gavi with a real goal.

Also one for the Tugas with Felix

Tugas take the lead (?) with a second from Felix

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On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 4:52:17 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

Rodri for Man City and Siglo de Oro

Left out goal by Provedel (Lazio's goalkeeper) for the Armata....
(Yes, you can pick goalkeepers in this game, they count as defenders)

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On 2023-09-19 14:28, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-19 14:18, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-19 14:16, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-19 13:01, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 3:00:24 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote: >>>>> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:59:48 PM UTC-4,

rec.sport.soccer wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:34:25 PM UTC-4, HASM wrote: >>>>>>>> There wasn't a France either last year, guess Ixion is still upset. >>>>>>> Quickly assembled French team: "Les Micronos"
First goal of the Use-the-NT season is a left-out Micronos goal:
Simakan

Firs UtN goal of the season goes to the Wonderland (Schlager).
Elia with a left-out Waka goal

Also a Cisleithanian left-out goal (Sesko)

Barrios with a missed gold for Siglo
Gavi with a real goal.

Also one for the Tugas with Felix

Tugas take the lead (?)  with a second from Felix

Rodri for Man City and Siglo de Oro

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On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 4:15:37 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-19 12:59, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 2:52:10 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-19 11:13, rec.sport.soccer wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:31:17 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

(On deck (reminder to myself) DF Aké, Theate, Hateboer MF: Vanaken, >>>>> Xavi Simons(RBL) Koopmeiners, FW: Lukebakio (Sevilla) Openda (RBL) >>>>> Malen (BvB) Trossard (Arsenal)

Sub in Xavi Simons and Lois Openda for De Ketelaere and Gakpo.

Hmm... Xavi Simons is listed as a forward on uefa.com

Good thing he did not score then. He really is a midfielder, but for
future rounds I will only use him, if at all, as a forward.

I'm still counting 6 forwards for the Waffles (even after the Doku sub):

Lukaku(c), Xavi Simons, Openda, L. De Jong, Bakayoko and Gakpo.

Simons and Openda are locked in, you have to get rid of one of the others.

OK, Gakpo back out

This is what I currently have for the Waffles:

DF. Van Dijk, Alderweireld, Dumfries
MF: Tielemans, F. De Jong, De Roon
FW: Lukaku©, Xavi Simons, Openda, L. De Jong , Bakayoko, Doku

That's a 3-3-6 formation, which I'm afraid is not allowed.

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On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 5:00:59 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

As far as I can tell, current standings are:

Micronos 2 (Mbappe(x2)
Orphans 2 (J. Alvarez 2)
Siglo 2 (Gavi, Rodri)
Tugas 2 (Joao Felix 2)
Wonderland 1 (Schlager)

Everybody else on 0

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On 2023-09-19 15:00, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 4:15:37 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-19 12:59, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 2:52:10 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-19 11:13, rec.sport.soccer wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:31:17 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

(On deck (reminder to myself) DF Aké, Theate, Hateboer MF: Vanaken, >>>>>>> Xavi Simons(RBL) Koopmeiners, FW: Lukebakio (Sevilla) Openda (RBL) >>>>>>> Malen (BvB) Trossard (Arsenal)

Sub in Xavi Simons and Lois Openda for De Ketelaere and Gakpo.

Hmm... Xavi Simons is listed as a forward on uefa.com

Good thing he did not score then. He really is a midfielder, but for
future rounds I will only use him, if at all, as a forward.

I'm still counting 6 forwards for the Waffles (even after the Doku sub): >>>
Lukaku(c), Xavi Simons, Openda, L. De Jong, Bakayoko and Gakpo.

Simons and Openda are locked in, you have to get rid of one of the others. >> OK, Gakpo back out

This is what I currently have for the Waffles:

DF. Van Dijk, Alderweireld, Dumfries
MF: Tielemans, F. De Jong, De Roon
FW: Lukaku©, Xavi Simons, Openda, L. De Jong , Bakayoko, Doku

That's a 3-3-6 formation, which I'm afraid is not allowed.

No, I took out Doko (posted at 12:49) and put Gakpo back in (while still believing Simons was a midfielder). Then I took Gakpo back out to
compensate for Simons having used up a forward slot (unfairly I might
add - he is a midfielder). So I still have a free midfield slot to fill
for tomorrow.

So the correct team as of now is

DF Van Dijk, alderweireld (played), Dumfries
MF: Tielemans, F. De Jong (played), De Roon, ADD de Ketelaere
FW. Simons (played), Lukaku (C), Openda (played), L. De Jong, Bakayoko




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Tugas for MD1:
DF:
...
Gonçalo Inácio (Man City),

Wrong team, replace Man City with Sporting CP.

-- HASM

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On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 9:32:21 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:

On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:29:22 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Let's put lineups, tinkering and comments in this thread. It looks like we will have the following lineups

Armata (Italy-Futbolmetrix)
Wakas (Sub-Saharan Africa- Futbolmetrix)
Wonderland (Austria+Swi+Lie - Werner)
Bungs (England - Werner)
Waffles (Benelux - MH)
Yet To be Named Spaniards (Spain - MH)
Vikings (Scandinavia (+Iceland and Faroe?) - Jesper)
Jogo (Brazil - Jesus)
Soldner/Flickers (Germany - Jesper)?
Sorta Austro-Hungarian Empire (Lands of the Austro-Hungarian empire without Austria - Binder)?
Tugas (Portugal - HASM) ?

Preliminary Bungs

DF: Trippier (Newcastle), Tavernier (Rangers), Gomez (Liverpool)
MF: Barnes (Newcastle), Loftus-Cheek (Milan), Foden (Man City), March (Brighton)
FW: Wilson (Newcastle), Kane © (Bayern), Nketiah (Arsenal), Rashford (Man United), Welbeck (Brighton)

Preliminary Wonderland

DF: Schär (Newcastle), Alaba (Real Madrid), Wüthrich (Sturm Graz)
MF: Sabitzer (Dortmund), Schlager (Leipzig), Xhaka (Leverkusen), Zuber (AEK), Schwab (PAOK)
FW: Okafor (Milan), Arnautović © (Inter), Zeqiri (Genk), Gregoritsch (Freiburg)

Four Newcastle players in my two teams, and they produced a single shot on goal, in the 94th minute (and that one by Almirón).
Figures. Frankly, they were quite shocking with the ball.

I'll be attending Milan vs Newcastle tomorrow, so I couldn't resist putting a ton of players from those
two teams into the line-ups (I also notice that now that Okafor is playing for a 'real' team UEFA have
paid attention and finally marked him as a forward. Not that he's been scoring any goals.)

So I'd recommend to go and bet on a scoreless draw in that match, it's basically free money.

Ka-ching!

Although I have to admit Rafa Leão's stumble was way better than if he had scored.


Ciao,
Werner

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On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 7:36:04 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

So the correct team as of now is

DF Van Dijk, alderweireld (played), Dumfries
MF: Tielemans, F. De Jong (played), De Roon, ADD de Ketelaere
FW. Simons (played), Lukaku (C), Openda (played), L. De Jong, Bakayoko

Got it, thanks. There was a bit of confusion, that's why it's better if people could always post the complete lineup after making subs (I know it's not always feasible, but still...)

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On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 3:50:44 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 4:29:22 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Preliminary Armata:
DF: Dimarco, Di Lorenzo, Biraghi
MF: Barella, Zaccagni, Zaniolo, Frattesi, Grifo
FW: Immobile (c), Belotti, Politano, Raspadori

Some tinkering based on matchups and likely starters:
Biraghi out, Zappacosta in.
Frattesi out, Cristante in
Raspadori out, El Shaarawy in (neither is likely to start, but still)

Updated Armata

DF: Dimarco, Di Lorenzo, Zappacosta
MF: Barella, Zaccagni, Zaniolo, Grifo, Cristante
FW: Immobile (c), Belotti, Politano, El Shaarawy

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On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:53:41 PM UTC-4, rec.sport.soccer wrote:

DF: Tapsoba (BUR, Bayer Leverkusen), Mbemba (DRC, Marseille), Ndicka (CIV, Roma)
MF: Kudus (GHA, West Ham), Anguissa (CMR, Napoli), Kanga (GAB, Red Star Belgrade), Duncan (GHA, Fiorentina)
FW: Osimhen (NGA, Napoli), Boniface (NGA, Leverkusen), Haller (CIV, Dortmund), Orban (NGA, Gent), Ismaila Sarr (Senegal, Marseille)

Osimhen captain

Tinkering:
Duncan out, Milson (ANG and Maccabi Tel Aviv) in
Mbemba out, Koussounou(CIV, Bayer Leverkusen) in (likely placeholder)
Ismaila Sarr out, Lookman (NGA, Atalanta) in
Boniface captain

DF: Tapsoba, Ndicka, Koussounou
MF: Kudus, Anguissa, Kanga, Milson (ANG, Maccabi Tel Aviv)
FW: Osimhen, Boniface (c), Haller, Orban, Lookman

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On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 18:25:14 UTC+2, rec.sport.soccer wrote:

On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 at 00:21:26 UTC+2, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

On 2023-09-17, Futbolmetrix <daniele....@gmail.com> wrote:

Vikings (Scandinavia (+Iceland and Faroe?) - Jesper)

The islands have always been included, as they're proper Viking lands.

Vikings:
FW Haaland (C), Solbakken (Olympiacos), Sørloth (Villarreal), Isak (Newcastle), Ingvartsen (Nordsjælland)
MF Frederiksberg (Klaksvík), Grønbæk (Bodø/Glimt), Pellegrino (Bodø/Glimt), Breivik (Molde)
DF Gunnlaugsson (Breidablik), Christensen (Barcelona), Bah (Benfica)

Poulsen starting ahead of Werner. Poulsen in, Ingvartsen out.

The ice float is being prepared.

FW Haaland (C, done), Solbakken (Olympiacos), Sørloth (Villarreal), Isak (done), Poulsen (done)
MF Frederiksberg (Klaksvík), Grønbæk (Bodø/Glimt), Pellegrino (Bodø/Glimt), Breivik (Molde)
DF Gunnlaugsson (Breidablik), Christensen (done), Bah (Benfica)

No changes.

Flickers:
FW Werner (C) (RB), Ngankam (Frankfurt), Behrens (Union), Gnabry
(Bayern), Höler (Freiburg)
MF Sané (Bayern), Gross (Brighton), Andrich (Lev), Wirtz (Lev)
DF Can (BVB), Bisseck (Inter), Tah (Lev)

Keep Werner, but move the armband to Sané. (what a sad statement)

Union isn't going to score against Real. Take out Behrens.

FW Werner (C, done) (RB), Ngankam (Frankfurt), Gnabry (Bayern), Müller (Bayern), Höler (Freiburg)
MF Sané (Bayern), Gross (Brighton), Andrich (Lev), Wirtz (Lev)
DF Can (done), Rüdiger (RM), Tah (Lev)

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On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 9:37:32 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 3:50:44 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 4:29:22 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Preliminary Armata:
DF: Dimarco, Di Lorenzo, Biraghi
MF: Barella, Zaccagni, Zaniolo, Frattesi, Grifo
FW: Immobile (c), Belotti, Politano, Raspadori

Some tinkering based on matchups and likely starters:
Biraghi out, Zappacosta in.
Frattesi out, Cristante in
Raspadori out, El Shaarawy in (neither is likely to start, but still)

Updated Armata

DF: Dimarco, Di Lorenzo, Zappacosta
MF: Barella, Zaccagni, Zaniolo, Grifo, Cristante
FW: Immobile (c), Belotti, Politano, El Shaarawy

Dimarco out, Spinazzola in.

DF: Spinazzola, Di Lorenzo, Zappacosta
MF: Barella, Zaniolo, Zaccagni, Grifo, Cristante
FW: Immobile (c), Belotti, El Shaarawy, Politano

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On Wednesday, 20 September 2023 at 18:39:03 UTC+2, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

FW Werner (C, done) (RB), Ngankam (Frankfurt), Gnabry (Bayern), Müller (Bayern), Höler (Freiburg)

Wait, I moved the armband away from Werner.

MF Sané (Bayern), Gross (Brighton), Andrich (Lev), Wirtz (Lev)
DF Can (done), Rüdiger (RM), Tah (Lev)

No Müller. Put in Musiala.

FW Werner (done) (RB), Ngankam (Frankfurt), Gnabry (Bayern), Höler (Freiburg) MF Sané (C/Bayern), Musiala, Gross (Brighton), Andrich (Lev), Wirtz (Lev)
DF Can (done), Rüdiger (RM), Tah (Lev)

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On 2023-09-18 13:35, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-17 14:29, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Let's put lineups, tinkering and comments in this thread. It looks
like we will have the following lineups

Armata (Italy-Futbolmetrix)
Wakas (Sub-Saharan Africa- Futbolmetrix)
Wonderland (Austria+Swi+Lie - Werner)
Bungs (England - Werner)
Waffles (Benelux - MH)
Yet To be Named Spaniards (Spain - MH)
Vikings (Scandinavia (+Iceland and Faroe?) - Jesper)
Jogo (Brazil - Jesus)
Soldner/Flickers (Germany - Jesper)?
Sorta Austro-Hungarian Empire  (Lands of the Austro-Hungarian empire
without Austria - Binder)?
Tugas (Portugal - HASM) ?

here are my preliminary entries - will double check postions tomorrow AM
with UEFA sites, and will almost certainly fiddle once lineups come out:

Siglo de Oro (Spain)

DF: Sergio Ramos (Sevilla), Alex Balde (Barca), Carvajal (Real Madrid)
MF: Rodri (Man City), Gavi (Barcelona) Merino (Real Sociedad), Isco
(Real Betis)
FW: Morata (Atletico, Captain), Dani Olmo (RBL), Ansu Fati (Brighton), Oyarzabal (Real Sociedad), Moreno (Villareal)

Current Lineup:

Ramos, BAlde, Carvajal
Rodri. Gavi, Merino, Isco
Morata, Yamal, Fati, Oyarzabal, Moreno

(subs, reminder to myself DF: Azpilicueta, Nacho, MIranda, Le Normand
MF: Fabian Ruiz, Thiago, Oliver Torres, Pedri (injured ?)       FW: Asensio, Borja Iglesias,

Waffles and Windmills (Benelux)Ram

DF.  Van Dijk (Liverpool), Alderweireld (Antwerp), Dumfries (Inter)
MF:  Tielemans (Aston Villa), De Ketelaere (Atalanta), F. De Jong (Barcelona), De Roon (Atalanta)
FW: Lukaku (ROma, captain) Gakpo (Liverpool), Luuk De Jong (PSV),
Bakayoko (PSV), Doku (Man City)

(On deck (reminder to myself) DF Aké, Theate, Hateboer  MF: Vanaken,
Xavi Simons(RBL) Koopmeiners,  FW: Lukebakio (Sevilla) Openda (RBL)
Malen (BvB) Trossard (Arsenal) Lamine Yamal

Putting in trossard for De Jong (will probably regret

New Lineup

DF Van Dijk, alderweireld (played), Dumfries
MF: Tielemans, F. De Jong (played), De Roon, ADD de Ketelaere
FW. Simons (played), Lukaku (C), Openda (played), TROSSARD Arsenal,
Bakayoko




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On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 3:23:35 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 2:37:21 PM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

Not much to report so far, just a bunch of left-out goals, including by Jude "one goal per game at Real Madrid, how could he possibly have been left out of the Bungs lineup" Bellingham.

Now Saka with another left out goal for the Bungs. "If I say anything I'm in big trouble," as Mourinho would say

Flickers jump into the lead with goals by Captain Sane and Gnabry, Waffles also on the board with last-minute sub Trossard. That's how you manage!

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On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 2:37:21 PM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

Not much to report so far, just a bunch of left-out goals, including by Jude "one goal per game at Real Madrid, how could he possibly have been left out of the Bungs lineup" Bellingham.

Now Saka with another left out goal for the Bungs. "If I say anything I'm in big trouble," as Mourinho would say

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On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 3:39:10 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 3:23:35 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 2:37:21 PM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

Not much to report so far, just a bunch of left-out goals, including by Jude "one goal per game at Real Madrid, how could he possibly have been left out of the Bungs lineup" Bellingham.

Now Saka with another left out goal for the Bungs. "If I say anything I'm in big trouble," as Mourinho would say

Flickers jump into the lead with goals by Captain Sane and Gnabry, Waffles also on the board with last-minute sub Trossard. That's how you manage!

At least Captain Harry does his job. Armata also on the board with Di Lorenzo

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On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 4:13:33 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 3:39:10 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 3:23:35 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 2:37:21 PM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

Not much to report so far, just a bunch of left-out goals, including by Jude "one goal per game at Real Madrid, how could he possibly have been left out of the Bungs lineup" Bellingham.

Now Saka with another left out goal for the Bungs. "If I say anything I'm in big trouble," as Mourinho would say

Flickers jump into the lead with goals by Captain Sane and Gnabry, Waffles also on the board with last-minute sub Trossard. That's how you manage!

At least Captain Harry does his job. Armata also on the board with Di Lorenzo

Goals by Orphan Captain Lautaro, a brace by Casemiro for the Jogo, and a bunch of left-out goals. Standings should be:

Orphans 4 (J. Alvarez 2, La. Martinez 1(x2))
Flickers 3 (Sane 1(x2), Gnabry)
Bungs 2 (Kane 1(x2))
Jogo 2 (Casemiro 2
Micronos 2 (Mbappe 1(x2))
Siglo 2 (Gavi, Rodri)
Tugas 2 (Joao Felix 2)
Armata 1 (Di Lorenzo)
Waffles 1 (Trossard)
Wonderland 1 (Schlager)
Vikings and Wakas, the top two teams from last year, still at 0.

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On Wednesday, 20 September 2023 at 23:22:39 UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Vikings and Wakas, the top two teams from last year, still at 0.

Ice float ready.

Vikings:
FW Haaland (C, done), Solbakken (Olympiacos), Sørloth (Villarreal), Isak (done), Poulsen (done)
MF Frederiksberg (Klaksvík), Grønbæk (Bodø/Glimt), Pellegrino (Bodø/Glimt), Breivik (Molde)
DF Gunnlaugsson (Breidablik), Christensen (done), Bah (done)

No tinkering for the early matches.

Ngankam and Andrich on the bench. Square-passing fraud!

Flickers:
FW Werner (done) (RB), Gnabry (done), Höler (Freiburg)
MF Sané (C/done), Musiala (done), Götze (Frankfurt), Gross (Brighton), Wirtz (Lev), Dahoud (Brighton)
DF Can (done), Rüdiger (RM), Tah (Lev)

Hopefully something will show up later.

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On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 2:00:02 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

DF: Spinazzola, Di Lorenzo, Zappacosta
MF: Barella, Zaniolo, Zaccagni, Grifo, Cristante
FW: Immobile (c), Belotti, El Shaarawy, Politano

Spinazzola out, Biraghi in. Let's keep Belotti, despite the benching.

DF: Biraghi, Di Lorenzo, Zappacosta
MF: Barella, Zaniolo, Zaccagni, Grifo, Cristante
FW: Immobile (c), Belotti, El Shaarawy, Politano

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On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 9:45:18 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:53:41 PM UTC-4, rec.sport.soccer wrote:

DF: Tapsoba (BUR, Bayer Leverkusen), Mbemba (DRC, Marseille), Ndicka (CIV, Roma)
MF: Kudus (GHA, West Ham), Anguissa (CMR, Napoli), Kanga (GAB, Red Star Belgrade), Duncan (GHA, Fiorentina)
FW: Osimhen (NGA, Napoli), Boniface (NGA, Leverkusen), Haller (CIV, Dortmund), Orban (NGA, Gent), Ismaila Sarr (Senegal, Marseille)

Osimhen captain

Tinkering:
Duncan out, Milson (ANG and Maccabi Tel Aviv) in
Mbemba out, Koussounou(CIV, Bayer Leverkusen) in (likely placeholder) Ismaila Sarr out, Lookman (NGA, Atalanta) in
Boniface captain

DF: Tapsoba, Ndicka, Koussounou
MF: Kudus, Anguissa, Kanga, Milson (ANG, Maccabi Tel Aviv)
FW: Osimhen, Boniface (c), Haller, Orban, Lookman

Koussounou out, Mbemba back in until I find a defender that I like more.
All the others are late starters, apart from Boniface who is starting and therefore keeps the captain's armband

DF: Tapsoba, Ndicka, Mbemba
MF: Kudus, Anguissa, Kanga, Milson
FW: Osimhen, Boniface (c), Haller, Orban, Lookman

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On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:36:20 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 2:00:02 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

DF: Spinazzola, Di Lorenzo, Zappacosta
MF: Barella, Zaniolo, Zaccagni, Grifo, Cristante
FW: Immobile (c), Belotti, El Shaarawy, Politano

Spinazzola out, Biraghi in. Let's keep Belotti, despite the benching.

DF: Biraghi, Di Lorenzo, Zappacosta
MF: Barella, Zaniolo, Zaccagni, Grifo, Cristante
FW: Immobile (c), Belotti, El Shaarawy, Politano

Early goals for the Wonderland (Zeqiri) and the Flickers (Wirtz). Both assists provided by STUPID UNSELFISH players

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On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 9:23:35 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 2:37:21 PM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

Not much to report so far, just a bunch of left-out goals, including by Jude "one goal per game at Real Madrid, how could he possibly have been left out of the
Bungs lineup" Bellingham.

Now Saka with another left out goal for the Bungs. "If I say anything I'm in big trouble," as Mourinho would say

Shuddup. Where could I have put all these valuable Newcastle players otherwise? Also, Cap'n 'Arry is all the Bungs need.

Missed Wonderland goal by Flecker. A nice one.

Ciao,
Werner

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On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 1:20:16 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 1:11:26 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 9:23:35 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 2:37:21 PM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

Not much to report so far, just a bunch of left-out goals, including by Jude "one goal per game at Real Madrid, how could he possibly have been left out of the
Bungs lineup" Bellingham.

Now Saka with another left out goal for the Bungs. "If I say anything I'm in big trouble," as Mourinho would say

Shuddup. Where could I have put all these valuable Newcastle players otherwise?
Also, Cap'n 'Arry is all the Bungs need.

Missed Wonderland goal by Flecker. A nice one.

Armata goals so far:
1 Goalkeeper
3 Defenders
0 midfielders
0 forwards

Armata-eligible players, I should have said.

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On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 1:11:26 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 9:23:35 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 2:37:21 PM UTC-4, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

Not much to report so far, just a bunch of left-out goals, including by Jude "one goal per game at Real Madrid, how could he possibly have been left out of the
Bungs lineup" Bellingham.

Now Saka with another left out goal for the Bungs. "If I say anything I'm in big trouble," as Mourinho would say

Shuddup. Where could I have put all these valuable Newcastle players otherwise?
Also, Cap'n 'Arry is all the Bungs need.

Missed Wonderland goal by Flecker. A nice one.

Armata goals so far:
1 Goalkeeper
3 Defenders
0 midfielders
0 forwards

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On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:34:28 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

DF: Tapsoba, Ndicka, Mbemba
MF: Kudus, Anguissa, Kanga, Milson
FW: Osimhen, Boniface (c), Haller, Orban, Lookman

Young star Gift Orban not even on the bench. Replace with old man Vincent Aboubakar. I guess I'll stick with Mbemba

DF: Mbemba, Ndicka, Tapsoba
MF: Milson, Kudus, Anguissa, Kanga,
FW: Lookman, Aboubakar, Osimhen, Boniface (c), Haller,

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On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:42:16 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

Goals by captains Lukaku and Boniface, also one by Digne. Standings before the final batch of matches:

Orphans, Flickers 4
Waffles, Micronos 3
Bungs, Jogo, Siglo, Tugas, Wakas, Wonderland 2
Armata 1
Vikings 0

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On 2023-09-20 12:58, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-18 13:35, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-17 14:29, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Let's put lineups, tinkering and comments in this thread. It looks
like we will have the following lineups

Armata (Italy-Futbolmetrix)
Wakas (Sub-Saharan Africa- Futbolmetrix)
Wonderland (Austria+Swi+Lie - Werner)
Bungs (England - Werner)
Waffles (Benelux - MH)
Yet To be Named Spaniards (Spain - MH)
Vikings (Scandinavia (+Iceland and Faroe?) - Jesper)
Jogo (Brazil - Jesus)
Soldner/Flickers (Germany - Jesper)?
Sorta Austro-Hungarian Empire  (Lands of the Austro-Hungarian empire
without Austria - Binder)?
Tugas (Portugal - HASM) ?

here are my preliminary entries - will double check postions tomorrow
AM with UEFA sites, and will almost certainly fiddle once lineups come
out:

Siglo de Oro (Spain)

DF: Sergio Ramos (Sevilla), Alex Balde (Barca), Carvajal (Real Madrid)
MF: Rodri (Man City), Gavi (Barcelona) Merino (Real Sociedad), Isco
(Real Betis)
FW: Morata (Atletico, Captain), Dani Olmo (RBL), Ansu Fati (Brighton),
Oyarzabal (Real Sociedad), Moreno (Villareal)

Current Lineup:

Ramos, BAlde, Carvajal

All have played

Rodri. Gavi, Merino, Isco

All played except Isco.

Morata, Yamal, Fati, Oyarzabal, Moreno

All played except Fati.
Not a lot of room for tinkering.

(subs, reminder to myself DF: Azpilicueta, Nacho, MIranda, Le Normand
MF: Fabian Ruiz, Thiago, Oliver Torres, Pedri (injured ?)       FW:
Asensio, Borja Iglesias,

Waffles and Windmills (Benelux)Ram

DF.  Van Dijk (Liverpool), Alderweireld (Antwerp), Dumfries (Inter)
MF:  Tielemans (Aston Villa), De Ketelaere (Atalanta), F. De Jong
(Barcelona), De Roon (Atalanta)
FW: Lukaku (ROma, captain) Gakpo (Liverpool), Luuk De Jong (PSV),
Bakayoko (PSV), Doku (Man City)

(On deck (reminder to myself) DF Aké, Theate, Hateboer  MF: Vanaken,
Xavi Simons(RBL) Koopmeiners,  FW: Lukebakio (Sevilla) Openda (RBL)
Malen (BvB) Trossard (Arsenal) Lamine Yamal

Putting in trossard for De Jong (will probably regret

New Lineup

DF Van Dijk, alderweireld (played), Dumfries

All played.

MF: Tielemans, F. De Jong (played), De Roon,  ADD de Ketelaere

De Roon is starting, de Ketelaere not. Rest have played.

FW.  Simons (played), Lukaku (C), Openda (played), TROSSARD Arsenal, Bakayoko

All have played. Trossard and Lukaku scored.

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On Thursday, 21 September 2023 at 18:00:06 UTC+2, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

On Wednesday, 20 September 2023 at 23:22:39 UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Vikings and Wakas, the top two teams from last year, still at 0.

Ice float ready.

Vikings:
FW Haaland (C, done), Solbakken (Olympiacos), Sørloth (Villarreal), Isak (done), Poulsen (done)
MF Frederiksberg (Klaksvík), Grønbæk (Bodø/Glimt), Pellegrino (Bodø/Glimt), Breivik (Molde)
DF Gunnlaugsson (Breidablik), Christensen (done), Bah (done)

Solbakken on the bench.

FW Haaland (C, done), Sørloth (done), Isak (done), Poulsen (done), Skov Olsen (Brugge)
MF Frederiksberg (Klaksvík), Grønbæk (Bodø/Glimt), Pellegrino (Bodø/Glimt), Breivik (done)
DF Gunnlaugsson (Breidablik), Christensen (done), Bah (done)

Flickers:
FW Werner (done) (RB), Gnabry (done), Höler (Freiburg)
MF Sané (C/done), Musiala (done), Götze (Frankfurt), Gross (Brighton), Wirtz (Lev), Dahoud (Brighton)
DF Can (done), Rüdiger (RM), Tah (Lev)
Hopefully something will show up later.

Not really. All in on Freiburg.

FW Werner (done) (RB), Gnabry (done), Höler (Freiburg)
MF Sané (C/done), Musiala (done), Götze (done), Gross (Brighton), Wirtz (done), Hofler (Freiburg)
DF Can (done), Rüdiger (done), Tah (done)

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On 2023-09-21 12:42, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-20 12:58, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-18 13:35, MH wrote:

On 2023-09-17 14:29, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Let's put lineups, tinkering and comments in this thread. It looks
like we will have the following lineups

Armata (Italy-Futbolmetrix)
Wakas (Sub-Saharan Africa- Futbolmetrix)
Wonderland (Austria+Swi+Lie - Werner)
Bungs (England - Werner)
Waffles (Benelux - MH)
Yet To be Named Spaniards (Spain - MH)
Vikings (Scandinavia (+Iceland and Faroe?) - Jesper)
Jogo (Brazil - Jesus)
Soldner/Flickers (Germany - Jesper)?
Sorta Austro-Hungarian Empire  (Lands of the Austro-Hungarian empire
without Austria - Binder)?
Tugas (Portugal - HASM) ?

here are my preliminary entries - will double check postions tomorrow
AM with UEFA sites, and will almost certainly fiddle once lineups
come out:

Siglo de Oro (Spain)

DF: Sergio Ramos (Sevilla), Alex Balde (Barca), Carvajal (Real Madrid)
MF: Rodri (Man City), Gavi (Barcelona) Merino (Real Sociedad), Isco
(Real Betis)
FW: Morata (Atletico, Captain), Dani Olmo (RBL), Ansu Fati
(Brighton), Oyarzabal (Real Sociedad), Moreno (Villareal)

Current Lineup:

Ramos, BAlde, Carvajal

All have played

Rodri. Gavi, Merino, Isco

All played except Isco.

Morata, Yamal, Fati, Oyarzabal, Moreno

All played except Fati.
Not a lot of room for tinkering.

(subs, reminder to myself DF: Azpilicueta, Nacho, MIranda, Le Normand
MF: Fabian Ruiz, Thiago, Oliver Torres, Pedri (injured ?)       FW: >>> Asensio, Borja Iglesias,



Waffles and Windmills (Benelux)Ram

DF.  Van Dijk (Liverpool), Alderweireld (Antwerp), Dumfries (Inter)
MF:  Tielemans (Aston Villa), De Ketelaere (Atalanta), F. De Jong
(Barcelona), De Roon (Atalanta)
FW: Lukaku (ROma, captain) Gakpo (Liverpool), Luuk De Jong (PSV),
Bakayoko (PSV), Doku (Man City)

(On deck (reminder to myself) DF Aké, Theate, Hateboer  MF: Vanaken,
Xavi Simons(RBL) Koopmeiners,  FW: Lukebakio (Sevilla) Openda (RBL)
Malen (BvB) Trossard (Arsenal) Lamine Yamal

Putting in trossard for De Jong (will probably regret

New Lineup

DF Van Dijk, alderweireld (played), Dumfries

All played.

MF: Tielemans, F. De Jong (played), De Roon,  ADD de Ketelaere

De Roon is starting, de Ketelaere not.  Rest have played.

FW.  Simons (played), Lukaku (C), Openda (played), TROSSARD Arsenal,
Bakayoko

All have played.  Trossard and Lukaku scored.

Sorry De Ketelaere and De Roon both starting,
also both Isco and Fati, so I will stand pat, to the presumed delight of
the esteemed gamesmaster.

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On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:49:31 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:42:16 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

Goals by captains Lukaku and Boniface, also one by Digne. Standings before the final batch of matches:

Orphans, Flickers 4
Waffles, Micronos 3
Bungs, Jogo, Siglo, Tugas, Wakas, Wonderland 2
Armata 1
Vikings 0

Grifo and the Armata catches up with the 2-point peloton. After some crazy high scoring results in the first batch of matches, the Conference League has gone quiet. Still 45 minutes to go.

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On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 3:57:17 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:49:31 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:42:16 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

Goals by captains Lukaku and Boniface, also one by Digne. Standings before the final batch of matches:

Orphans, Flickers 4
Waffles, Micronos 3
Bungs, Jogo, Siglo, Tugas, Wakas, Wonderland 2
Armata 1
Vikings 0

Grifo and the Armata catches up with the 2-point peloton. After some crazy high scoring results in the first batch of matches, the Conference League has gone quiet. Still 45 minutes to go.

De Ketelaere on the board for the Waffles. Do I have the courage to tell MH that UEFA lists him as a forward?

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On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 4:09:26 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 3:57:17 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:49:31 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:42:16 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

Goals by captains Lukaku and Boniface, also one by Digne. Standings before the final batch of matches:

Orphans, Flickers 4
Waffles, Micronos 3
Bungs, Jogo, Siglo, Tugas, Wakas, Wonderland 2
Armata 1
Vikings 0

Grifo and the Armata catches up with the 2-point peloton. After some crazy high scoring results in the first batch of matches, the Conference League has gone quiet. Still 45 minutes to go.

De Ketelaere on the board for the Waffles. Do I have the courage to tell MH that UEFA lists him as a forward?

A late Kudus goal puts the Wakas on 3 points. I'll double check things later, but the final standings should be:

Orphans, Flickers, Waffles (pending decision on De Ketelaere case) 4
Micronos, Wakas 3
Armata, Bungs, Jogo, Siglo, Tugas, Wonderland 2
Armata 1
Vikings 0

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On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 4:29:22 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Match Day 1 results and standings

Flickers 4
DF Can, Bisseck, Tah
MF Sané © 1(x2), Gross, Wirtz 1, Musiala, Gotze, Hofler
FW Werner, Gnabry 1, Höler

Orphans 4
DF: Otamendi, Molina, Li. Martinez
MF: Mac Allister, Palacios, De Paul, Paredes
FW: La. Martinez © 1(x2), Dybala, Icardi, J. Alvarez 2, Di Maria

Waffles/Windmills 4
DF. Van Dijk, Alderweireld, Dumfries
MF: Tielemans, F. De Jong, De Roon, de Ketelaere 1
FW: Lukaku© 1(x2), Xavi Simons, Openda, Trossard 1, Bakayoko

Micronos 3
DF: Upamecano, L. Hernandez, Digne 1
MF: Camavinga, Ndombele, Tchouameni, Dina Ebimbe
FW: Mbappe© 1 (x2), Giroud, Benrahma, Griezmann, Cimignani

Waka-Waka 3
DF: Tapsoba, Ndicka, Mbemba
MF: Kudus 1, Anguissa, Kanga, Milson
FW: Osimhen, Boniface © 1(x2), Haller, Orban, Lookman

Armata 2
DF: Biraghi, Di Lorenzo 1, Zappacosta
MF: Barella, Zaccagni, Zaniolo, Grifo 1, Cristante
FW: Immobile©, Belotti, Politano, El Shaarawy

Bungs 2
DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Gomez
MF: Barnes, Loftus-Cheek, Foden, March
FW: Wilson, Kane© 1(x2), Nketiah, Rashford, Welbeck

Jogo 2
DF: Rodinei, Marquinhos, Juan Jesus;
MF: Fred, Bruno Guimarães, Casemiro 2, Taison;
FW: Vinícius Júnior (C), Rodrygo, Raphinha, Caio Vidal, Martinelli

Siglo 2
DF: Sergio Ramos, A. Balde, Carvajal
MF: Rodri 1, Gavi 1, Merino, Isco
FW: Morata©, Lamine Yamal, Ansu Fati, Oyarzabal, Moreno

Tugas 2
DF: Raphaël Guerreiro, Gonçalo Inácio, Alexandre Penetra
MF: Bernardo Silva, Bruno Fernandes, Ivan Cavaleiro, Vitinha
FW: Rafa Silva, João Félix 2, Ricardo Leão, Diogo Jota, Gonçalo Ramos©

Wonderland 1
DF: Schär, Alaba, Wüthrich
MF: Sabitzer , Schlager 1 , Xhaka, Zuber, Schwab
FW: Okafor, Arnautović ©, Zeqiri 1, Gregoritsch

Vikings 0
DF Gunnlaugsson, Christensen, Bah
MF Frederiksberg, Grønbæk, Pellegrino, Breivik
FW Haaland (C), Sørloth, Isak, Poulsen, Skov Olsen



MatchDay 1 Points:
Flickers 4 + 6.67 = 10.67
Orphans 4 + 6 .67 = 10.67
Waffles/Windmills 4 + 6.67 = 10.67
Micronos 3 + 2.5 = 5.5
Wakas 3 + 2.5 = 5.5
Armata 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Bungs 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Jogo 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Siglo 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Tugas 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Wonderland 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Vikings 0 = 0


Best lineups
Armata 7
DF: Provedel, Di Lorenzo, Ranieri 2(x2)
MF: Grifo
FW:

Bungs 4
DF:
MF: Bellingham, Saka
FW: Kane (x2)

Flickers 7
DF: Koch
MF: Sané, Wirtz, Hoffmann
FW: Gnabry (x2), Philipp

Jogo 12
DF:
MF: Casemiro 2, Ederson
FW: Galeno 2 (x2), Tetê, Gabriel Jesus, Rwan, Joao Pedro 2

Micronos 11
DF: Simakan, Boey, Digne, Truffert, Macon, Sidibe
MF: Blas
FW: Mbappe (x2), Fulgini, Tel

Orphans 7
DF:
MF: Alvarez 2 (x2), Ocampos
FW: La. Martinez, Ponce

Siglo 6
DF:
MF: Barrios, Gavi, Rodri, Mendez
FW: Brandon (x2)

Tugas 8
DF:
MF: Miguel Crespo
FW: João Félix 2 (x2), Diogo Goncalves, Bruma, Borges

Vikings 10
DF:
MF: Elyounoussi, Ødegaard, Bøving
FW: Højlund, Villadsen, K. Olsen 2 (x2), Gyökeres

Waffles/Windmills 10
DF:
MF: Stengs, Mijnans, De Wit, De Ketelaere, [Taylor, Vanaken]
FW: Trossard (x2), Batshuayi, van Brederode, Dallinga, Lukaku, [Berghuis, Cuypers]

Waka-Waka 14
DF: Ogbu, Diomande
MF: Bukari, Leandro Andrade, Kudus
FW: Elia, Hassane Bande, Owusu, Boniface, Aubameyang 2 (x2), [Sima, Babicka]

Wonderland 4
DF:
MF: Schlager, Flecker
FW: Zeqiri (x2)


Actual goals scored: 30
Best goals: 100


Nice round numbers....

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On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 10:09:26 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 3:57:17 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:49:31 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:42:16 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

Goals by captains Lukaku and Boniface, also one by Digne. Standings before the final batch of matches:

Orphans, Flickers 4
Waffles, Micronos 3
Bungs, Jogo, Siglo, Tugas, Wakas, Wonderland 2
Armata 1
Vikings 0

Grifo and the Armata catches up with the 2-point peloton. After some crazy high scoring results in the first batch of matches, the Conference League has gone
quiet. Still 45 minutes to go.

De Ketelaere on the board for the Waffles. Do I have the courage to tell MH that UEFA lists him as a forward?

You can swap him with Trossard who UEFA lists as a midfielder?

Ciao,
Werner

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On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 12:17:21 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Ah, good old UEFA coming to the rescue!

It also has no impact on efficiency scores, as the Waffles had goals to spare in both midfield and attack.

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On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 12:12:23 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 10:09:26 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 3:57:17 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:49:31 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:42:16 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

Goals by captains Lukaku and Boniface, also one by Digne. Standings before the final batch of matches:

Orphans, Flickers 4
Waffles, Micronos 3
Bungs, Jogo, Siglo, Tugas, Wakas, Wonderland 2
Armata 1
Vikings 0

Grifo and the Armata catches up with the 2-point peloton. After some crazy high scoring results in the first batch of matches, the Conference League has gone
quiet. Still 45 minutes to go.

De Ketelaere on the board for the Waffles. Do I have the courage to tell MH that UEFA lists him as a forward?

You can swap him with Trossard who UEFA lists as a midfielder?

Ah, good old UEFA coming to the rescue!

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On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 6:05:48 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 4:29:22 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote: Match Day 1 results and standings

Flickers 4
DF Can, Bisseck, Tah
MF Sané © 1(x2), Gross, Wirtz 1, Musiala, Gotze, Hofler
FW Werner, Gnabry 1, Höler

Orphans 4
DF: Otamendi, Molina, Li. Martinez
MF: Mac Allister, Palacios, De Paul, Paredes
FW: La. Martinez © 1(x2), Dybala, Icardi, J. Alvarez 2, Di Maria

Waffles/Windmills 4
DF. Van Dijk, Alderweireld, Dumfries
MF: Tielemans, F. De Jong, De Roon, de Ketelaere 1
FW: Lukaku© 1(x2), Xavi Simons, Openda, Trossard 1, Bakayoko

Micronos 3
DF: Upamecano, L. Hernandez, Digne 1
MF: Camavinga, Ndombele, Tchouameni, Dina Ebimbe
FW: Mbappe© 1 (x2), Giroud, Benrahma, Griezmann, Cimignani

Waka-Waka 3
DF: Tapsoba, Ndicka, Mbemba
MF: Kudus 1, Anguissa, Kanga, Milson
FW: Osimhen, Boniface © 1(x2), Haller, Orban, Lookman

Kudus scored twice...

Armata 2
DF: Biraghi, Di Lorenzo 1, Zappacosta
MF: Barella, Zaccagni, Zaniolo, Grifo 1, Cristante
FW: Immobile©, Belotti, Politano, El Shaarawy

Bungs 2
DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Gomez
MF: Barnes, Loftus-Cheek, Foden, March
FW: Wilson, Kane© 1(x2), Nketiah, Rashford, Welbeck

Jogo 2
DF: Rodinei, Marquinhos, Juan Jesus;
MF: Fred, Bruno Guimarães, Casemiro 2, Taison;
FW: Vinícius Júnior (C), Rodrygo, Raphinha, Caio Vidal, Martinelli

Siglo 2
DF: Sergio Ramos, A. Balde, Carvajal
MF: Rodri 1, Gavi 1, Merino, Isco
FW: Morata©, Lamine Yamal, Ansu Fati, Oyarzabal, Moreno

Tugas 2
DF: Raphaël Guerreiro, Gonçalo Inácio, Alexandre Penetra
MF: Bernardo Silva, Bruno Fernandes, Ivan Cavaleiro, Vitinha
FW: Rafa Silva, João Félix 2, Ricardo Leão, Diogo Jota, Gonçalo Ramos©

Wonderland 1
DF: Schär, Alaba, Wüthrich
MF: Sabitzer , Schlager 1 , Xhaka, Zuber, Schwab
FW: Okafor, Arnautović ©, Zeqiri 1, Gregoritsch

Vikings 0
DF Gunnlaugsson, Christensen, Bah
MF Frederiksberg, Grønbæk, Pellegrino, Breivik
FW Haaland (C), Sørloth, Isak, Poulsen, Skov Olsen

MatchDay 1 Points:
Flickers 4 + 6.67 = 10.67
Orphans 4 + 6 .67 = 10.67
Waffles/Windmills 4 + 6.67 = 10.67
Micronos 3 + 2.5 = 5.5
Wakas 3 + 2.5 = 5.5
Armata 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Bungs 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Jogo 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Siglo 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Tugas 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Wonderland 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Vikings 0 = 0

...so more shared points.

Best lineups
Armata 7
DF: Provedel, Di Lorenzo, Ranieri 2(x2)
MF: Grifo
FW:

Bungs 4
DF:
MF: Bellingham, Saka
FW: Kane (x2)

There have been better matchdays for the Bungs. No Thursday goal is rare.

Flickers 7
DF: Koch
MF: Sané, Wirtz, Hoffmann
FW: Gnabry (x2), Philipp

Jogo 12
DF:
MF: Casemiro 2, Ederson
FW: Galeno 2 (x2), Tetê, Gabriel Jesus, Rwan, Joao Pedro 2

Scored the most braces.

Micronos 11
DF: Simakan, Boey, Digne, Truffert, Macon, Sidibe
MF: Blas
FW: Mbappe (x2), Fulgini, Tel

Missing Jonathan Clauss (DF) for Marseille.
A good thing for the Micronos efficiency that Adli changed NT allegiance just this month.

I think it's new that UEFA, forever complicating things, on their site now differentiate between 'Club Position' and 'National Team Position'.
For some reason they have Fulgini as Club Forward and National Team Defender, when he last featured in any NT (French Under-21s) in June 2017.
In fact he plays for Lens in midfield. Go figure.

Orphans 7
DF:
MF: Alvarez 2 (x2), Ocampos
FW: La. Martinez, Ponce

Álvarez and Ocampos are both 'Club Position' forwards.

Siglo 6
DF:
MF: Barrios, Gavi, Rodri, Mendez
FW: Brandon (x2)

Tugas 8
DF:
MF: Miguel Crespo
FW: João Félix 2 (x2), Diogo Goncalves, Bruma, Borges

Vikings 10
DF:
MF: Elyounoussi, Ødegaard, Bøving
FW: Højlund, Villadsen, K. Olsen 2 (x2), Gyökeres

Should have gone with the Faroe guy playing in Iceland! Doesn't get any more Viking than that.

Waffles/Windmills 10
DF:
MF: Stengs, Mijnans, De Wit, De Ketelaere, [Taylor, Vanaken]
FW: Trossard (x2), Batshuayi, van Brederode, Dallinga, Lukaku, [Berghuis, Cuypers]

Waka-Waka 14
DF: Ogbu, Diomande
MF: Bukari, Leandro Andrade, Kudus
FW: Elia, Hassane Bande, Owusu, Boniface, Aubameyang 2 (x2), [Sima, Babicka]

So Cabo Verde is part of Waka-Waka? I think we pondered that question before but I can't be bothered to look it up.

Wonderland 4
DF:
MF: Schlager, Flecker
FW: Zeqiri (x2)

Good efficiency, at least.

Actual goals scored: 30
Best goals: 100

Nice round numbers....

About that...


Ciao,
Werner

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On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 12:32:25 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

Kudus scored twice...

Wait, what?
[checks...]
Yes! Go Wakas! (his first goal had initially been given as an own goal)

MatchDay 1 Points:
Flickers 4 + 6.67 = 10.67
Orphans 4 + 6 .67 = 10.67
Waffles/Windmills 4 + 6.67 = 10.67
Micronos 3 + 2.5 = 5.5
Wakas 3 + 2.5 = 5.5
Armata 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Bungs 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Jogo 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Siglo 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Tugas 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Wonderland 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Vikings 0 = 0

...so more shared points.

Ugh. updated standings:

TotGoals TotPoints
Flickers 4 9.75
Orphans 4 9.75
Waffles/Windmills 4 9.75
Waka-Waka 4 9.75
Micronos 3 5
Armata 2 2.17
Bungs 2 2.17
Jogo 2 2.17
Siglo 2 2.17
Tugas 2 2.17
Wonderland 2 2.17
Vikings 0 0

Best lineups
Armata 7
DF: Provedel, Di Lorenzo, Ranieri 2(x2)
MF: Grifo
FW:

Italy's dearth of offensive talent continues: only two goals by defenders, one by a goalkeeper, and one by a German dude who has never been part of Italy's youth system...

Jogo 12
DF:
MF: Casemiro 2, Ederson
FW: Galeno 2 (x2), Tetê, Gabriel Jesus, Rwan, Joao Pedro 2

Scored the most braces.

Despite the appearance that the golden days of Brazilians in European leagues is coming to an end, the Jogo still had the second highest score.

Micronos 11
DF: Simakan, Boey, Digne, Truffert, Macon, Sidibe
MF: Blas
FW: Mbappe (x2), Fulgini, Tel

Missing Jonathan Clauss (DF) for Marseille.

Fixed it. Nice lineup for the Micronos, 7-1-3

I think it's new that UEFA, forever complicating things, on their site now differentiate between 'Club Position' and 'National Team Position'.
For some reason they have Fulgini as Club Forward and National Team Defender, when he last featured in any NT (French Under-21s) in June 2017.
In fact he plays for Lens in midfield. Go figure.

Yes, excessive praise for UEFA is unnecessary (their website has also become a lot more clunky)

Orphans 7
DF:
MF: Alvarez 2 (x2), Ocampos
FW: La. Martinez, Ponce

Álvarez and Ocampos are both 'Club Position' forwards.

And indeed Alvarez was listed as a forward in my lineup. Don't know why he slipped into midfield.

Vikings 10
DF:
MF: Elyounoussi, Ødegaard, Bøving
FW: Højlund, Villadsen, K. Olsen 2 (x2), Gyökeres

Should have gone with the Faroe guy playing in Iceland! Doesn't get any more Viking than that.

:-)

Waka-Waka 14
DF: Ogbu, Diomande

Diomande's shot took a deflection of Coates, and several sites have it as a Coates goal. But the UEFA honchos preferred to hurt the Wakas' efficiency score.

MF: Bukari, Leandro Andrade, Kudus
FW: Elia, Hassane Bande, Owusu, Boniface, Aubameyang 2 (x2), [Sima, Babicka]

So Cabo Verde is part of Waka-Waka? I think we pondered that question before but I can't be bothered to look it up.

Yes, we discussed this already. It's listed as Sub Saharan Africa by the World Bank.

Actual goals scored: 30
Best goals: 100

Nice round numbers....

About that...

31 actual goals, 102 best goals

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On 2023-09-20, Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 9:32:21 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:

Four Newcastle players in my two teams, and they produced a single shot on goal, in the 94th minute (and that one by Almirón).
Figures. Frankly, they were quite shocking with the ball.

I'll be attending Milan vs Newcastle tomorrow, so I couldn't resist putting a ton of players from those
two teams into the line-ups (I also notice that now that Okafor is playing for a 'real' team UEFA have
paid attention and finally marked him as a forward. Not that he's been scoring any goals.)

So I'd recommend to go and bet on a scoreless draw in that match, it's basically free money.

Ka-ching!

Some pundit called it the worst CL match he had ever seen.

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On 2023-09-22, Futbolmetrix <daniele.paserman@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 4:29:22 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Match Day 1 results and standings

Flickers 4
DF Can, Bisseck, Tah
MF Sané © 1(x2), Gross, Wirtz 1, Musiala, Gotze, Hofler
FW Werner, Gnabry 1, Höler

Rudiger was on for Bisseck. Not that it made any difference.

Flickers 7
DF: Koch
MF: Sané, Wirtz, Hoffmann
FW: Gnabry (x2), Philipp

Hoffmann and Philipp both second half subs; Kock with his first goal
since the 2019/20 season. You can't really be expected to make those
picks.

Vikings 10
DF:
MF: Elyounoussi, Ødegaard, Bøving
FW: Højlund, Villadsen, K. Olsen 2 (x2), Gyökeres

Elyounoussi and Ødegaard picked so many times without scoring in the
past.

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On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 10:11:19 PM UTC+2, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

On 2023-09-20, Werner Pichler <wpic...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 9:32:21 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:

Four Newcastle players in my two teams, and they produced a single shot on goal, in the 94th minute (and that one by Almirón).
Figures. Frankly, they were quite shocking with the ball.

I'll be attending Milan vs Newcastle tomorrow, so I couldn't resist putting a ton of players from those
two teams into the line-ups (I also notice that now that Okafor is playing for a 'real' team UEFA have
paid attention and finally marked him as a forward. Not that he's been scoring any goals.)

So I'd recommend to go and bet on a scoreless draw in that match, it's basically free money.

Ka-ching!

Some pundit called it the worst CL match he had ever seen.

Worst ever? No way. Worst CL match I've ever been to, probably. Salzburg don't do 0-0.

Ciao,
Werner

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