• The RSS John de Lange Sophisticated Prediction Contest: European Cups G

    From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 17 13:14:40 2023
    Download spreadsheets here, return to futbolmetrix@yahoo.com before the deadline.

    https://futbolmetrix.wordpress.com/2023/09/17/european-cups-sophisticated-prediction-contest-group-stage-2023-2024/

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Mon Sep 18 20:12:57 2023
    On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 4:14:43 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Download spreadsheets here, return to futbol...@yahoo.com before the deadline.

    https://futbolmetrix.wordpress.com/2023/09/17/european-cups-sophisticated-prediction-contest-group-stage-2023-2024/

    entries so far:

    UCL
    -----
    Agnostic
    Club Elo (by Futbolmetrix)
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix)
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix)
    Jesper
    Volkan Riolo
    Alessandro Riolo
    Futbolmetrix

    MH: please resend your entry, the attachment did not come through

    UEL and UECL: just Aggie and the Riolo family for the moment

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  • From rec.sport.soccer@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Mon Sep 18 21:10:04 2023
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 5:13:00 AM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 4:14:43 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Download spreadsheets here, return to futbol...@yahoo.com before the deadline.

    https://futbolmetrix.wordpress.com/2023/09/17/european-cups-sophisticated-prediction-contest-group-stage-2023-2024/
    entries so far:

    UCL
    -----
    Agnostic
    Club Elo (by Futbolmetrix)
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix)
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix)
    Jesper
    Volkan Riolo
    Alessandro Riolo
    Futbolmetrix

    MH: please resend your entry, the attachment did not come through

    UEL and UECL: just Aggie and the Riolo family for the moment

    Didn’t you receive my three entries?

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From rec.sport.soccer@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 04:11:00 2023
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:10:06 AM UTC-4, rec.sport.soccer wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 5:13:00 AM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 4:14:43 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Download spreadsheets here, return to futbol...@yahoo.com before the deadline.

    https://futbolmetrix.wordpress.com/2023/09/17/european-cups-sophisticated-prediction-contest-group-stage-2023-2024/
    entries so far:

    UCL
    -----
    Agnostic
    Club Elo (by Futbolmetrix)
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix)
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix)
    Jesper
    Volkan Riolo
    Alessandro Riolo
    Futbolmetrix

    MH: please resend your entry, the attachment did not come through

    UEL and UECL: just Aggie and the Riolo family for the moment
    Didn’t you receive my three entries?

    Yes, they had ended up in the wrong folder.

    Updated list of participants:

    UCL:
    -------
    Agnostic
    Club Elo (by Futbolmetrix)
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix)
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix)
    Jesper
    Volkan Riolo
    Alessandro Riolo
    Futbolmetrix
    Jack C
    Werner
    MH
    Anders
    @Fantomen

    UEL:
    ----
    Agnostic
    Volkan Riolo
    Alessandro Riolo
    Jack C
    Werner
    @Fantomen

    UECL
    ---------
    Agnostic
    Volkan Riolo
    Alessandro Riolo
    Jack C
    Werner
    @Fantomen

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 20 05:01:20 2023
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 7:11:03 AM UTC-4, rec.sport.soccer wrote:

    Updated list of participants:

    UCL:
    -------
    Agnostic
    Club Elo (by Futbolmetrix)
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix)
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix)
    Jesper
    Volkan Riolo
    Alessandro Riolo
    Futbolmetrix
    Jack C
    Werner
    MH
    Anders
    @Fantomen

    Collective Consciousness to be added.



    UEL:
    ----
    Agnostic
    Volkan Riolo
    Alessandro Riolo
    Jack C
    Werner
    @Fantomen
    MH
    Jesper



    UECL
    ---------
    Agnostic
    Volkan Riolo
    Alessandro Riolo
    Jack C
    Werner
    @Fantomen
    Futbolmetrix
    ClubElo (by Futbolmetrix)
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix)
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix)
    MH

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Thu Sep 21 05:54:16 2023
    On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 8:01:23 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 7:11:03 AM UTC-4, rec.sport.soccer wrote:

    Updated list of participants:

    UCL:
    -------
    Agnostic
    Club Elo (by Futbolmetrix)
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix)
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix)
    Jesper
    Volkan Riolo
    Alessandro Riolo
    Futbolmetrix
    Jack C
    Werner
    MH
    Anders
    @Fantomen
    Collective Consciousness to be added.


    Still to be added.

    UEL:
    ----
    Agnostic
    Volkan Riolo
    Alessandro Riolo
    Jack C
    Werner
    @Fantomen
    MH
    Jesper

    Futbolmetrix and the BOTs (sounds like a rock band!) added.

    UECL
    ---------
    Agnostic
    Volkan Riolo
    Alessandro Riolo
    Jack C
    Werner
    @Fantomen
    Futbolmetrix
    ClubElo (by Futbolmetrix)
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix)
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix)
    MH

    Jesper added.

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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 22 15:18:31 2023
    Quoting Futbolmetrix in rec.sport.soccer:

    UEL:
    UECL

    Sorry, only small teams this year so didn't bother.
    ;-)


    --
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    Latest: England '13 (20th) Europa '17, UEFA '08, World '08

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Wed Sep 27 05:25:13 2023
    On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 4:14:43 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Download spreadsheets here, return to futbol...@yahoo.com before the deadline.

    https://futbolmetrix.wordpress.com/2023/09/17/european-cups-sophisticated-prediction-contest-group-stage-2023-2024/

    Standings after Match Day 1

    UCL
    ------------
    Collective Consciousness -40.609
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix) -40.771
    Alessandro Riolo -41.082
    Werner Pichler -41.648
    @fantomen -41.711
    ClubElo (by Futbolmetrix) -42.961
    Volkan Riolo -43.737
    Agnostic -44.361
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix) -44.668
    13 Nil (Jack C) -45.021
    Futbolmetrix -45.696
    MH -46.834
    Anders T -49.752
    Jesper -109.715

    Will Collectve Consciousness capture its first title?


    UEL
    --------
    13 Nil (Jack C) -38.405
    Collective Consciousness -38.949
    Werner Pichler -38.977
    MH -40.065
    ClubElo (by Futbolmetrix) -40.683
    Alessandro Riolo -40.717
    Volkan Riolo -40.901
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix) -41.020
    Futbolmetrix -41.634
    @Fantomen -42.806
    Jesper -44.013
    Agnostic -44.361
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix) -45.246

    Last year's winner 13Nil going strong


    UECL
    ---------
    Werner Pichler -39.074
    MH -39.183
    Volkan Riolo -41.660
    Collective Consciousness -42.382
    Alessandro Riolo -43.526
    Agnostic -44.361
    Jesper -45.154
    13 Nil (Jack C) -49.809
    Futbolmetrix -51.939
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix) -56.189
    ClubElo (by Futbolmetrix) -56.280
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix) -57.130
    @fantomen -61.398

    Lots of Hall of Shame here. Aston Villa losing to Legia didn't help.

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Fri Oct 6 11:42:26 2023
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 8:25:15 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 4:14:43 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    Download spreadsheets here, return to futbol...@yahoo.com before the deadline.

    https://futbolmetrix.wordpress.com/2023/09/17/european-cups-sophisticated-prediction-contest-group-stage-2023-2024/
    Standings after Match Day 1


    Standings after MD2

    UCL:
    ---------------------
    13 Nil (Jack C) -35.038
    Collective Consciousness -36.342
    @fantomen -36.925
    Werner Pichler -37.070
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix) -37.142
    Futbolmetrix -37.648
    ClubElo (by Futbolmetrix) -37.725
    MH -40.400
    Alessandro Riolo -40.547
    Volkan Riolo -40.753
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix) -43.328
    Agnostic -44.361
    Anders T -47.522
    Jesper -104.507


    Jesper is actually on top of the Brier score standings


    UEL:
    -----------------------
    Werner Pichler -39.178
    MH -40.933
    Collective Consciousness -41.093
    Futbolmetrix -41.269
    13 Nil (Jack C) -41.741
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix) -42.924
    Alessandro Riolo -43.020
    ClubElo (by Futbolmetrix) -43.412
    Agnostic -44.361
    Volkan Riolo -45.401
    Jesper -45.451
    @Fantomen -46.911
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix) -49.294

    Just like in old times, Werner doing his Europa League thing.


    UECL
    --------------------

    Agnostic -44.361
    Werner Pichler -45.106
    Volkan Riolo -45.249
    Alessandro Riolo -45.282
    Collective Consciousness -46.132
    Jesper -46.940
    MH -47.584
    Futbolmetrix -55.413
    13 Nil (Jack C) -55.571
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix) -63.157
    @fantomen -63.157
    ClubElo (by Futbolmetrix) -64.545
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix) -66.757

    LOL :-)

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Fri Dec 15 06:36:58 2023
    On 12/13/2023 5:41 PM, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 2:42:29 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 8:25:15 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote: >>> On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 4:14:43 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote: >>>> Download spreadsheets here, return to futbol...@yahoo.com before the deadline.

    https://futbolmetrix.wordpress.com/2023/09/17/european-cups-sophisticated-prediction-contest-group-stage-2023-2024/
    Standings after Match Day 1

    Standings after MD2

    UCL:

    I'll post the full standings when all the competitions are over, but for the moment, SPOILER ALERT,

    Final standings:

    Champions League:
    --------------------
    Futbolmetrix -32.322
    Collective Consciousness -34.407
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix) -34.655
    Werner Pichler -34.738
    ClubElo (by Futbolmetrix) -34.778
    Alessandro Riolo -36.189
    13 Nil (Jack C) -36.377
    MH -36.522
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix) -37.086
    @fantomen -39.206
    Volkan Riolo -41.662
    Agnostic -44.361
    Anders T -46.670
    Jesper -106.811

    Yay! Hall of Shame for Jesper and Anders, both heavily betrayed by
    Manchester United.


    Europa League
    -------------
    ClubElo (by Futbolmetrix) -28.457
    13 Nil (Jack C) -30.253
    Werner Pichler -30.971
    @Fantomen -31.234
    Collective Consciousness -32.148
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix) -32.764
    Futbolmetrix -34.265
    MH -35.142
    Jesper -35.438
    Alessandro Riolo -36.294
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix) -36.694
    Volkan Riolo -38.375
    Agnostic -44.361

    Minor yay! There were lots of changes in the standings in the final
    matchday, so this was slightly unexpected.
    Everybody above Aggie.

    Europa Conference League
    ------------------------
    TransferMarkt (by Futbolmetrix) -29.259
    ClubElo (by Futbolmetrix) -29.939
    13 Nil (Jack C) -30.537
    MH -31.412
    Collective Consciousness -32.081
    Alessandro Riolo -32.682
    Werner Pichler -33.585
    Jesper -34.255
    Futbolmetrix -34.824
    Volkan Riolo -37.080
    @fantomen -42.990
    Agnostic -44.361
    UEFA (by Futbolmetrix) -50.223


    Second minor yay! Once again, changes in the standings on the final
    matchday had a big effect (in particular Fenerbah$e jumping from 3rd to
    1st in their group -- I think that was key for TransferMarkt's win).

    Everybody above Aggie, with the exception of the poor UEFA rating...

    Thanks to all for playing!

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Fri Dec 15 07:59:57 2023
    On 12/15/2023 7:12 AM, Werner Pichler wrote:


    So the Champions League was actually the most difficult of the three competitions to
    predict? Who knew!

    Yeah, I noticed that too. I don't think it's the first time, but I'll check.

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