And another World Cup cycle begins. Conmebol opens this time around with an almost complete sweep by the hosts. Messi and Neymar set personal records,
as their teams dominate and put out a good show for their crowds.

Paraguay 0-0 Peru

If a shot in the post counted as a goal, this one would have ended a 5-1 blowout to the hosts. Alas, it doesn't, so it was honours even at Estadio Antonio Aranda, in Ciudad del Este. Paraguay made most of the play and their domination only became more complete when Advíncula was sent off at the end
of the first half. The posts, added by an inspired match by goalkeeper Pedro Gallese, saved the visitors a valuable away point.

Colombia 1-0 Venezuela

Valderrama once said that, against Colombia, Venezuela always put out that extra effort, and it showed in this game's first half, at Estadio Metropolitano de Barranquilla. The vinotinto had their chances, but finished them poorly.
In the second half, it took 19 seconds for Borré to score Colombia's winner. Venezuela deflated after that and it was Colombia's game from that moment on, but 1-0 it stayed.

Argentina 1-0 Ecuador

A dominant victory by Argentina, in front of a full house at Estadio Monumental de Nuñez, in Buenos Aires. They created several chances and could have won
by more, but Ecuador held on bravely. Lionel Messi had a very good game and eventually was the one that unlocked the Ecuadoran blockade, with a very neat free kick at the 77th minute, which was his 29th WCQ goal, thus matching Luis Suárez's record. Ecuador barely created a couple of chances, but did play hard
and made itself a tough nut to crack. But, at the same time, they were lucky to
have only conceded once.

I didn't know it, but Ecuador has been docked 3 points for irregularly lining up Byron Castillo in the last WCQ cycle. So, they remain at -3 and in the last position.

Uruguay 3-1 Chile

A mostly one-sided game at Estadio Centenario, in Montevideo, where the hosts created almost all of the scoring chances and made most of the play. Goals by de la Cruz (37'), Valverde (45') and de la Cruz again (70') put the match beyond Chile's retrieval. Vidal scored one back for Chile at the 73', but it was only to be a consolation goal. A good start for Bielsa in charge of La Celeste.

Brasil 5-1 Bolivia

A predictably easy victory for Brasil at Estadio Mangueirão, in Belém. The first
half was a bit chippy and Bolivian goalkeeper Guillermo Viscarra put out a great
performance, saving a penalty from Neymar and making several good saves. Bolivia
limited damages and held Brasil to 1-0, goal by Rodrygo in the 23'.

But in the second half, the floodgates opened. Raphinha (46'), Rodrygo again (52')
and Neymar (60' and 92') finished off La Verde, whose honour goal was scored by
Abrego (77').

Neymar was tied with Pelé as Brasil's record goalscorer, with 77 goals. His goals
today meant Pelé's record is broken and is now Neymar's. He celebrated imitating
Pelé's classical celebration of jumping and punching the air.


Table [points, games, w-d-l, gs-gc, gd]

1 Brasil 3 1 1 0 0 5-1 4+
2 Uruguay 3 1 1 0 0 3-1 2+
3 Argentina 3 1 1 0 0 1-0 1+
4 Colombia 3 1 1 0 0 1-0 1+
5 Paraguay 1 1 0 1 0 0-0 0
6 Peru 1 1 0 1 0 0-0 0
-----------------------------
7 Venezuela 0 1 0 0 1 0-1 1-
-----------------------------
8 Chile 0 1 0 0 1 1-3 2-
9 Bolivia 0 1 0 0 1 1-5 4-
10 Ecuador -3 1 0 0 1 0-1 1-


Next round to be played on March 29th. In brackets below, the results of these games in the WCQ cycles of 2018/2014/2010/2006/2002/1998 (all the round robin ones so far):

Bolivia - Argentina (1-2, 2-0, 1-1, 6-1, 1-2, 3-3, 2-1)

In principle a tough fixture at Estadio Hernando Siles, in the altitude of La Paz. But the gulf between the two teams is so vast that it gets hard to see Argentina dropping points here. I'll go for BOL 1-2 ARG (in soph-terms: Bolivia 0.20, draw 0.35, Argentina 0.45).

Ecuador - Uruguay (4-2, 2-1, 1-0, 1-2, 0-0, 1-1, 4-0)

Another one with the altitude factor to be accounted for, at Estadio Casa Blanca,
in Quito. Uruguay looked good in the opener and Ecuador kept it respectable as visitors against the incumbent world champions. Should be a close one. I'll call
a 1-1 draw (in soph-terms: Ecuador 0.35, draw 0.35, Uruguay 0.30)

Venezuela - Paraguay (0-1, 0-1, 1-1, 1-2, 0-1, 3-1, 0-2)

Not sure what to expect from this one, to be played at Estadio Monumental de Maturín. I don't rate Venezuela much, so I think Paraguay might steal a win here,
but they don't inspire confidence enough for a bold prediction, do they? My prediction will bea modest VEN 0-1 PAR (in soph-terms: Venezuela 0.25, draw 0.35,
Paraguay 0.40).

Chile - Colombia (2-2, 1-1, 1-3, 4-0, 0-0, 0-1, 4-1)

Colombia seems to be the better side, but Chile shouldn't be a pushover and
the host factor, at Estadio Monumental de Santiago, might level the scales.
I think this will be up for grabs, with a very slight edge for the visitors. I'll go for a draw, 1-1 (in soph-terms: Chile 0.30, draw 0.35, Colombia 0.35)

Peru - Brasil (2-4, 0-2, n/a, 1-1, 1-1, 0-1, n/a)

Brasil visits Estadio Nacional de Lima as the favorite against the hosts. Peru might put up a fight but, barring an upset, Brasil should win. I'll predict PER 0-2 BRA (in soph-terms: Peru 0.20, draw 0.20, Brasil 0.60).


Best regards,

Lléo

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On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 4:56:21 AM UTC+1, Lléo wrote:

And another World Cup cycle begins. Conmebol opens this time around with an almost complete sweep by the hosts. Messi and Neymar set personal records, as their teams dominate and put out a good show for their crowds.

Paraguay 0-0 Peru

If a shot in the post counted as a goal, this one would have ended a 5-1 blowout to the hosts. Alas, it doesn't, so it was honours even at Estadio Antonio Aranda, in Ciudad del Este. Paraguay made most of the play and their domination only became more complete when Advíncula was sent off at the end of the first half. The posts, added by an inspired match by goalkeeper Pedro Gallese, saved the visitors a valuable away point.

Colombia 1-0 Venezuela

Valderrama once said that, against Colombia, Venezuela always put out that extra effort, and it showed in this game's first half, at Estadio Metropolitano
de Barranquilla. The vinotinto had their chances, but finished them poorly. In the second half, it took 19 seconds for Borré to score Colombia's winner.
Venezuela deflated after that and it was Colombia's game from that moment on,
but 1-0 it stayed.

Argentina 1-0 Ecuador

A dominant victory by Argentina, in front of a full house at Estadio Monumental
de Nuñez, in Buenos Aires. They created several chances and could have won by more, but Ecuador held on bravely. Lionel Messi had a very good game and eventually was the one that unlocked the Ecuadoran blockade, with a very neat
free kick at the 77th minute, which was his 29th WCQ goal, thus matching Luis
Suárez's record. Ecuador barely created a couple of chances, but did play hard
and made itself a tough nut to crack. But, at the same time, they were lucky to
have only conceded once.

I didn't know it, but Ecuador has been docked 3 points for irregularly lining
up Byron Castillo in the last WCQ cycle. So, they remain at -3 and in the last
position.

Uruguay 3-1 Chile

A mostly one-sided game at Estadio Centenario, in Montevideo, where the hosts
created almost all of the scoring chances and made most of the play. Goals by
de la Cruz (37'), Valverde (45') and de la Cruz again (70') put the match beyond Chile's retrieval. Vidal scored one back for Chile at the 73', but it was only to be a consolation goal. A good start for Bielsa in charge of La Celeste.

Brasil 5-1 Bolivia

A predictably easy victory for Brasil at Estadio Mangueirão, in Belém. The first
half was a bit chippy and Bolivian goalkeeper Guillermo Viscarra put out a great
performance, saving a penalty from Neymar and making several good saves. Bolivia
limited damages and held Brasil to 1-0, goal by Rodrygo in the 23'.

But in the second half, the floodgates opened. Raphinha (46'), Rodrygo again (52')
and Neymar (60' and 92') finished off La Verde, whose honour goal

Ahh - so there is football culture other than Turkey that uses the term "honour goal" as opposed to "consolation goal".

was scored by
Abrego (77').

Neymar was tied with Pelé as Brasil's record goalscorer, with 77 goals. His goals
today meant Pelé's record is broken and is now Neymar's. He celebrated imitating
Pelé's classical celebration of jumping and punching the air.

Table [points, games, w-d-l, gs-gc, gd]

1 Brasil 3 1 1 0 0 5-1 4+
2 Uruguay 3 1 1 0 0 3-1 2+
3 Argentina 3 1 1 0 0 1-0 1+
4 Colombia 3 1 1 0 0 1-0 1+
5 Paraguay 1 1 0 1 0 0-0 0
6 Peru 1 1 0 1 0 0-0 0
-----------------------------
7 Venezuela 0 1 0 0 1 0-1 1-
-----------------------------
8 Chile 0 1 0 0 1 1-3 2-
9 Bolivia 0 1 0 0 1 1-5 4-
10 Ecuador -3 1 0 0 1 0-1 1-

Next round to be played on March 29th. In brackets below, the results of these
games in the WCQ cycles of 2018/2014/2010/2006/2002/1998 (all the round robin
ones so far):

Bolivia - Argentina (1-2, 2-0, 1-1, 6-1, 1-2, 3-3, 2-1)

In principle a tough fixture at Estadio Hernando Siles, in the altitude of La
Paz. But the gulf between the two teams is so vast that it gets hard to see Argentina dropping points here. I'll go for BOL 1-2 ARG (in soph-terms: Bolivia
0.20, draw 0.35, Argentina 0.45).

Ecuador - Uruguay (4-2, 2-1, 1-0, 1-2, 0-0, 1-1, 4-0)

Another one with the altitude factor to be accounted for, at Estadio Casa Blanca,
in Quito. Uruguay looked good in the opener and Ecuador kept it respectable as
visitors against the incumbent world champions. Should be a close one. I'll call
a 1-1 draw (in soph-terms: Ecuador 0.35, draw 0.35, Uruguay 0.30)

Venezuela - Paraguay (0-1, 0-1, 1-1, 1-2, 0-1, 3-1, 0-2)

Not sure what to expect from this one, to be played at Estadio Monumental de Maturín. I don't rate Venezuela much, so I think Paraguay might steal a win here,
but they don't inspire confidence enough for a bold prediction, do they? My prediction will bea modest VEN 0-1 PAR (in soph-terms: Venezuela 0.25, draw 0.35,
Paraguay 0.40).

Chile - Colombia (2-2, 1-1, 1-3, 4-0, 0-0, 0-1, 4-1)

Colombia seems to be the better side, but Chile shouldn't be a pushover and the host factor, at Estadio Monumental de Santiago, might level the scales. I think this will be up for grabs, with a very slight edge for the visitors. I'll go for a draw, 1-1 (in soph-terms: Chile 0.30, draw 0.35, Colombia 0.35)

Peru - Brasil (2-4, 0-2, n/a, 1-1, 1-1, 0-1, n/a)

Brasil visits Estadio Nacional de Lima as the favorite against the hosts. Peru
might put up a fight but, barring an upset, Brasil should win. I'll predict PER 0-2 BRA (in soph-terms: Peru 0.20, draw 0.20, Brasil 0.60).

Best regards,

Lléo

Great report as always.

After the aberration of 2022 it feels good to get World Cup 2026 qualifying under way.

RM

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On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 4:56:21 AM UTC+1, Lléo wrote:

And another World Cup cycle begins. Conmebol opens this time around with an almost complete sweep by the hosts. Messi and Neymar set personal records, as their teams dominate and put out a good show for their crowds.

Paraguay 0-0 Peru

If a shot in the post counted as a goal, this one would have ended a 5-1 blowout to the hosts. Alas, it doesn't, so it was honours even at Estadio Antonio Aranda, in Ciudad del Este. Paraguay made most of the play and their domination only became more complete when Advíncula was sent off at the end of the first half. The posts, added by an inspired match by goalkeeper Pedro Gallese, saved the visitors a valuable away point.

Colombia 1-0 Venezuela

Valderrama once said that, against Colombia, Venezuela always put out that extra effort, and it showed in this game's first half, at Estadio Metropolitano
de Barranquilla. The vinotinto had their chances, but finished them poorly. In the second half, it took 19 seconds for Borré to score Colombia's winner.
Venezuela deflated after that and it was Colombia's game from that moment on,
but 1-0 it stayed.

Argentina 1-0 Ecuador

A dominant victory by Argentina, in front of a full house at Estadio Monumental
de Nuñez, in Buenos Aires. They created several chances and could have won by more, but Ecuador held on bravely. Lionel Messi had a very good game and eventually was the one that unlocked the Ecuadoran blockade, with a very neat
free kick at the 77th minute, which was his 29th WCQ goal, thus matching Luis
Suárez's record. Ecuador barely created a couple of chances, but did play hard
and made itself a tough nut to crack. But, at the same time, they were lucky to
have only conceded once.

I didn't know it, but Ecuador has been docked 3 points for irregularly lining
up Byron Castillo in the last WCQ cycle. So, they remain at -3 and in the last
position.

Uruguay 3-1 Chile

A mostly one-sided game at Estadio Centenario, in Montevideo, where the hosts
created almost all of the scoring chances and made most of the play. Goals by
de la Cruz (37'), Valverde (45') and de la Cruz again (70') put the match beyond Chile's retrieval. Vidal scored one back for Chile at the 73', but it was only to be a consolation goal. A good start for Bielsa in charge of La Celeste.

Brasil 5-1 Bolivia

A predictably easy victory for Brasil at Estadio Mangueirão, in Belém. The first
half was a bit chippy and Bolivian goalkeeper Guillermo Viscarra put out a great
performance, saving a penalty from Neymar and making several good saves. Bolivia
limited damages and held Brasil to 1-0, goal by Rodrygo in the 23'.

But in the second half, the floodgates opened. Raphinha (46'), Rodrygo again (52')
and Neymar (60' and 92') finished off La Verde, whose honour goal was scored by
Abrego (77').

Neymar was tied with Pelé as Brasil's record goalscorer, with 77 goals. His goals
today meant Pelé's record is broken and is now Neymar's. He celebrated imitating
Pelé's classical celebration of jumping and punching the air.

Table [points, games, w-d-l, gs-gc, gd]

1 Brasil 3 1 1 0 0 5-1 4+
2 Uruguay 3 1 1 0 0 3-1 2+
3 Argentina 3 1 1 0 0 1-0 1+
4 Colombia 3 1 1 0 0 1-0 1+
5 Paraguay 1 1 0 1 0 0-0 0
6 Peru 1 1 0 1 0 0-0 0
-----------------------------
7 Venezuela 0 1 0 0 1 0-1 1-
-----------------------------
8 Chile 0 1 0 0 1 1-3 2-
9 Bolivia 0 1 0 0 1 1-5 4-
10 Ecuador -3 1 0 0 1 0-1 1-

Next round to be played on March 29th.

Looks like 12th September according to google and the COMNEBOL site?

12/9:

Bolivia - Argentina

Ecuador - Uruguay

Venezuela - Paraguay

13/9:

Chile - Colombia

Peru - Brazil

?

RM


In brackets below, the results of these

games in the WCQ cycles of 2018/2014/2010/2006/2002/1998 (all the round robin
ones so far):

Bolivia - Argentina (1-2, 2-0, 1-1, 6-1, 1-2, 3-3, 2-1)

In principle a tough fixture at Estadio Hernando Siles, in the altitude of La
Paz. But the gulf between the two teams is so vast that it gets hard to see Argentina dropping points here. I'll go for BOL 1-2 ARG (in soph-terms: Bolivia
0.20, draw 0.35, Argentina 0.45).

Ecuador - Uruguay (4-2, 2-1, 1-0, 1-2, 0-0, 1-1, 4-0)

Another one with the altitude factor to be accounted for, at Estadio Casa Blanca,
in Quito. Uruguay looked good in the opener and Ecuador kept it respectable as
visitors against the incumbent world champions. Should be a close one. I'll call
a 1-1 draw (in soph-terms: Ecuador 0.35, draw 0.35, Uruguay 0.30)

Venezuela - Paraguay (0-1, 0-1, 1-1, 1-2, 0-1, 3-1, 0-2)

Not sure what to expect from this one, to be played at Estadio Monumental de Maturín. I don't rate Venezuela much, so I think Paraguay might steal a win here,
but they don't inspire confidence enough for a bold prediction, do they? My prediction will bea modest VEN 0-1 PAR (in soph-terms: Venezuela 0.25, draw 0.35,
Paraguay 0.40).

Chile - Colombia (2-2, 1-1, 1-3, 4-0, 0-0, 0-1, 4-1)

Colombia seems to be the better side, but Chile shouldn't be a pushover and the host factor, at Estadio Monumental de Santiago, might level the scales. I think this will be up for grabs, with a very slight edge for the visitors. I'll go for a draw, 1-1 (in soph-terms: Chile 0.30, draw 0.35, Colombia 0.35)

Peru - Brasil (2-4, 0-2, n/a, 1-1, 1-1, 0-1, n/a)

Brasil visits Estadio Nacional de Lima as the favorite against the hosts. Peru
might put up a fight but, barring an upset, Brasil should win. I'll predict PER 0-2 BRA (in soph-terms: Peru 0.20, draw 0.20, Brasil 0.60).

Best regards,

Lléo

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Em sábado, 9 de setembro de 2023 às 07:16:12 UTC-3, Real Mardin escreveu:

On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 4:56:21 AM UTC+1, Lléo wrote:

Next round to be played on March 29th.

Looks like 12th September according to google and the COMNEBOL site?

12/9:

Bolivia - Argentina

Ecuador - Uruguay

Venezuela - Paraguay

13/9:

Chile - Colombia

Peru - Brazil

?

It is as you say. I had copied that sentence from a previous report (since it is always there) and forgot to correct
the date. Thanks for the correction!


Best regards,

Lléo

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Em sábado, 9 de setembro de 2023 às 07:09:09 UTC-3, Real Mardin escreveu:

On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 4:56:21 AM UTC+1, Lléo wrote:

But in the second half, the floodgates opened. Raphinha (46'), Rodrygo again (52') and Neymar (60' and 92') finished off La Verde, whose honour goal

Ahh - so there is football culture other than Turkey that uses the term "honour goal" as opposed to "consolation goal".

Indeed we say "gol de honra" in Brasil (or "golo" de honra in Portugal).
It works in Spanish too, "gol del honor". I've looked up a couple other languages and found that Germans refer to it as "das Ehrentor" too, which quite literally means "honour goal".

In French, I've found "en but pour l'honneur" and "sauver l'honneur", but
I don't speak the language and have no idea which one is correct, or if
either indeed applies :-). The latter looks more like "saving face". But
both expressions seem to refer to honor. In Italian I found the expression "gol della bandiera". Again, not sure if this is right, hopefully it makes sense.

So it seems English's "consolation" concept is actually the exception? :-) Reading again what I wrote, I don't really know why I wrote "honor goal",
which seems to have no meaning in English (in a football context, I mean), especially having earlier referred to Chile's "consolation goal" vs Uruguay. Must have been a slip.

How do you say it in Turkish? I've tried Google Translate, but I'm not
sure it understands what I mean.


Best regards,

Lléo

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On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 7:53:29 PM UTC+1, Lléo wrote:

Em sábado, 9 de setembro de 2023 às 07:09:09 UTC-3, Real Mardin escreveu:

On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 4:56:21 AM UTC+1, Lléo wrote:

But in the second half, the floodgates opened. Raphinha (46'), Rodrygo again (52') and Neymar (60' and 92') finished off La Verde, whose honour goal

Ahh - so there is football culture other than Turkey that uses the term "honour goal" as opposed to "consolation goal".

Indeed we say "gol de honra" in Brasil (or "golo" de honra in Portugal).
It works in Spanish too, "gol del honor". I've looked up a couple other languages and found that Germans refer to it as "das Ehrentor" too, which quite literally means "honour goal".

In French, I've found "en but pour l'honneur" and "sauver l'honneur", but
I don't speak the language and have no idea which one is correct, or if either indeed applies :-). The latter looks more like "saving face". But both expressions seem to refer to honor. In Italian I found the expression "gol della bandiera". Again, not sure if this is right, hopefully it makes sense.

So it seems English's "consolation" concept is actually the exception? :-) Reading again what I wrote, I don't really know why I wrote "honor goal", which seems to have no meaning in English (in a football context, I mean), especially having earlier referred to Chile's "consolation goal" vs Uruguay. Must have been a slip.

How do you say it in Turkish? I've tried Google Translate, but I'm not
sure it understands what I mean.

Best regards,

Lléo

So it’s England being awkward by being the odd one out! In Turkish it’s “seref golu “ (honour goal).


RM

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On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 4:56:21 AM UTC+1, Lléo wrote:

I didn't know it, but Ecuador has been docked 3 points for irregularly lining
up Byron Castillo in the last WCQ cycle. So, they remain at -3 and in the last
position.

I read that in Wikipedia and did wonder to some extent why you hadn't mentioned it in your preview.

Bolivia - Argentina (1-2, 2-0, 1-1, 6-1, 1-2, 3-3, 2-1)

In principle a tough fixture at Estadio Hernando Siles, in the altitude of La
Paz. But the gulf between the two teams is so vast that it gets hard to see Argentina dropping points here. I'll go for BOL 1-2 ARG (in soph-terms: Bolivia
0.20, draw 0.35, Argentina 0.45).

Bol 1 Arg 2

Ecuador - Uruguay (4-2, 2-1, 1-0, 1-2, 0-0, 1-1, 4-0)

Another one with the altitude factor to be accounted for, at Estadio Casa Blanca,
in Quito. Uruguay looked good in the opener and Ecuador kept it respectable as
visitors against the incumbent world champions. Should be a close one. I'll call
a 1-1 draw (in soph-terms: Ecuador 0.35, draw 0.35, Uruguay 0.30)

Ecu 0 Uru 1

Venezuela - Paraguay (0-1, 0-1, 1-1, 1-2, 0-1, 3-1, 0-2)

Not sure what to expect from this one, to be played at Estadio Monumental de Maturín. I don't rate Venezuela much, so I think Paraguay might steal a win here,
but they don't inspire confidence enough for a bold prediction, do they? My prediction will bea modest VEN 0-1 PAR (in soph-terms: Venezuela 0.25, draw 0.35,
Paraguay 0.40).

Ven 1 Par 0

Chile - Colombia (2-2, 1-1, 1-3, 4-0, 0-0, 0-1, 4-1)

Colombia seems to be the better side, but Chile shouldn't be a pushover and the host factor, at Estadio Monumental de Santiago, might level the scales. I think this will be up for grabs, with a very slight edge for the visitors. I'll go for a draw, 1-1 (in soph-terms: Chile 0.30, draw 0.35, Colombia 0.35)

Chi 2 Col 2

Peru - Brasil (2-4, 0-2, n/a, 1-1, 1-1, 0-1, n/a)

Brasil visits Estadio Nacional de Lima as the favorite against the hosts. Peru
might put up a fight but, barring an upset, Brasil should win. I'll predict PER 0-2 BRA (in soph-terms: Peru 0.20, draw 0.20, Brasil 0.60).

Per 1 Bra 2

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On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 4:54:43 PM UTC+1, Mark wrote:

On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 4:56:21 AM UTC+1, Lléo wrote:

I didn't know it, but Ecuador has been docked 3 points for irregularly lining
up Byron Castillo in the last WCQ cycle. So, they remain at -3 and in the last
position.

I read that in Wikipedia and did wonder to some extent why you hadn't mentioned it in your preview.

Bolivia - Argentina (1-2, 2-0, 1-1, 6-1, 1-2, 3-3, 2-1)

In principle a tough fixture at Estadio Hernando Siles, in the altitude of La
Paz. But the gulf between the two teams is so vast that it gets hard to see
Argentina dropping points here. I'll go for BOL 1-2 ARG (in soph-terms: Bolivia
0.20, draw 0.35, Argentina 0.45).

Bol 1 Arg 2

Lleo 70 points
Mark 70 points

Ecuador - Uruguay (4-2, 2-1, 1-0, 1-2, 0-0, 1-1, 4-0)

Another one with the altitude factor to be accounted for, at Estadio Casa Blanca,
in Quito. Uruguay looked good in the opener and Ecuador kept it respectable as
visitors against the incumbent world champions. Should be a close one. I'll call
a 1-1 draw (in soph-terms: Ecuador 0.35, draw 0.35, Uruguay 0.30)

Ecu 0 Uru 1

Lleo 30
Mark 0

Venezuela - Paraguay (0-1, 0-1, 1-1, 1-2, 0-1, 3-1, 0-2)

Not sure what to expect from this one, to be played at Estadio Monumental de
Maturín. I don't rate Venezuela much, so I think Paraguay might steal a win here,
but they don't inspire confidence enough for a bold prediction, do they? My
prediction will bea modest VEN 0-1 PAR (in soph-terms: Venezuela 0.25, draw 0.35,
Paraguay 0.40).

Ven 1 Par 0

Lleo 0
Mark 100

Chile - Colombia (2-2, 1-1, 1-3, 4-0, 0-0, 0-1, 4-1)

Colombia seems to be the better side, but Chile shouldn't be a pushover and
the host factor, at Estadio Monumental de Santiago, might level the scales.
I think this will be up for grabs, with a very slight edge for the visitors.
I'll go for a draw, 1-1 (in soph-terms: Chile 0.30, draw 0.35, Colombia 0.35)

Chi 2 Col 2

Lleo 90
Mark 80

Peru - Brasil (2-4, 0-2, n/a, 1-1, 1-1, 0-1, n/a)

Brasil visits Estadio Nacional de Lima as the favorite against the hosts. Peru
might put up a fight but, barring an upset, Brasil should win. I'll predict
PER 0-2 BRA (in soph-terms: Peru 0.20, draw 0.20, Brasil 0.60).

Per 1 Bra 2

Lleo 85
Mark 90

Total:
Lleo 275 points
Mark 340 points

Not bad.

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