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  • Re: Champions League 2023/24 Group Stage Draw

    From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Thu Aug 31 10:21:35 2023
    On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 7:15:34 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    Group A

    FC Bayern München (GER/CH) 136.000
    Manchester United FC (ENG) 104.000
    FC København (DEN/CH) 40.500
    Galatasaray SK (TUR/CH) 31.500

    Bayern, Man United
    Gala -> EL


    Group B

    Sevilla FC (ESP/TH-EL) 91.000
    Arsenal FC (ENG) 76.000
    PSV (NED) 43.000
    RC Lens (FRA) 12.232

    The Europa League winners from Pot 1 and the lowest-ranked teams from both Pot 2 and Pot 4 makes for an even group.
    Arsenal, PSV
    Sevilla off to win the Europa League.



    Group C

    SSC Napoli (ITA/CH) 81.000
    Real Madrid CF (ESP) 121.000
    SC Braga (POR) 44.000
    1. FC Union Berlin (GER) 17.000

    Real Madrid, Napoli
    Union -> EL



    Group D

    SL Benfica (POR/CH) 82.000
    FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) 96.000
    FC Salzburg (AUT/CH) 59.000
    Real Sociedad (ESP) 33.000

    Phew. Should at least be entertaining. Roger Schmidt knows Salzburg.

    Inter, Benfica
    Real Sociedad -> EL



    Group E

    Feyenoord (NED/CH) 51.000
    Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP) 85.000
    SS Lazio (ITA) 42.000
    Celtic FC (SCO/CH) 31.000

    Atlético, Feyenoord
    Lazio -> EL


    Group F

    Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA/CH) 112.000
    BV Borussia 09 Dortmund (GER) 86.000
    AC Milan (ITA) 50.000
    Newcastle United FC (ENG) 21.914

    Group of Death

    Newcastle, PSG
    Milan -> EL


    Group G

    Manchester City FC (ENG/CH/TH-CL) 145.000
    RB Leipzig (GER) 84.000
    FK Crvena Zvezda (SRB/CH) 42.000
    BSC Young Boys (SUI/CH) 34.500

    Man City, Leipzig
    CZ vs YB will be a direct UEFA coefficient fight. YB -> EL


    Group H

    FC Barcelona (ESP/CH) 98.000
    FC Porto (POR) 81.000
    FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR/CH) 63.000
    Royal Antwerp FC (BEL/CH) 17.000

    Barcelona, Porto
    Antwerp -> EL


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 31 10:15:31 2023
    Group A

    FC Bayern München (GER/CH) 136.000
    Manchester United FC (ENG) 104.000
    FC København (DEN/CH) 40.500
    Galatasaray SK (TUR/CH) 31.500


    Group B

    Sevilla FC (ESP/TH-EL) 91.000
    Arsenal FC (ENG) 76.000
    PSV (NED) 43.000
    RC Lens (FRA) 12.232


    Group C

    SSC Napoli (ITA/CH) 81.000
    Real Madrid CF (ESP) 121.000
    SC Braga (POR) 44.000
    1. FC Union Berlin (GER) 17.000


    Group D

    SL Benfica (POR/CH) 82.000
    FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) 96.000
    FC Salzburg (AUT/CH) 59.000
    Real Sociedad (ESP) 33.000


    Group E

    Feyenoord (NED/CH) 51.000
    Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP) 85.000
    SS Lazio (ITA) 42.000
    Celtic FC (SCO/CH) 31.000


    Group F

    Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA/CH) 112.000
    BV Borussia 09 Dortmund (GER) 86.000
    AC Milan (ITA) 50.000
    Newcastle United FC (ENG) 21.914


    Group G

    Manchester City FC (ENG/CH/TH-CL) 145.000
    RB Leipzig (GER) 84.000
    FK Crvena Zvezda (SRB/CH) 42.000
    BSC Young Boys (SUI/CH) 34.500


    Group H

    FC Barcelona (ESP/CH) 98.000
    FC Porto (POR) 81.000
    FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR/CH) 63.000
    Royal Antwerp FC (BEL/CH) 17.000



    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Thu Aug 31 11:06:26 2023
    On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 1:21:39 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 7:15:34 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
    Group A

    FC Bayern München (GER/CH) 136.000
    Manchester United FC (ENG) 104.000
    FC København (DEN/CH) 40.500
    Galatasaray SK (TUR/CH) 31.500
    Bayern, Man United
    Gala -> EL

    Bayern and ManU. FCK to the EL



    Group B

    Sevilla FC (ESP/TH-EL) 91.000
    Arsenal FC (ENG) 76.000
    PSV (NED) 43.000
    RC Lens (FRA) 12.232
    The Europa League winners from Pot 1 and the lowest-ranked teams from both Pot 2 and Pot 4 makes for an even group.
    Arsenal, PSV
    Sevilla off to win the Europa League.

    Aren't Sevilla having another horror start to the season? Maybe they will miss their target?

    Arsenal and Lens
    PSV to EL


    Group C

    SSC Napoli (ITA/CH) 81.000
    Real Madrid CF (ESP) 121.000
    SC Braga (POR) 44.000
    1. FC Union Berlin (GER) 17.000
    Real Madrid, Napoli
    Union -> EL

    sounds about right

    Group D

    SL Benfica (POR/CH) 82.000
    FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) 96.000
    FC Salzburg (AUT/CH) 59.000
    Real Sociedad (ESP) 33.000
    Phew. Should at least be entertaining. Roger Schmidt knows Salzburg.
    Inter, Benfica
    Real Sociedad -> EL

    Inter and Benfica.
    Let's say Salzburg.



    Group E

    Feyenoord (NED/CH) 51.000
    Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP) 85.000
    SS Lazio (ITA) 42.000
    Celtic FC (SCO/CH) 31.000
    Atlético, Feyenoord
    Lazio -> EL

    Lazio is another team that has had a bad start, but they should be ahead of Celtic. Same predictions as you



    Group F

    Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA/CH) 112.000
    BV Borussia 09 Dortmund (GER) 86.000
    AC Milan (ITA) 50.000
    Newcastle United FC (ENG) 21.914
    Group of Death

    Yup.

    Newcastle, PSG
    Milan -> EL

    Not the same predictions. Dortmund and Milan, PSG to the EL



    Group G

    Manchester City FC (ENG/CH/TH-CL) 145.000
    RB Leipzig (GER) 84.000
    FK Crvena Zvezda (SRB/CH) 42.000
    BSC Young Boys (SUI/CH) 34.500
    Man City, Leipzig
    CZ vs YB will be a direct UEFA coefficient fight. YB -> EL

    Same as you.



    Group H

    FC Barcelona (ESP/CH) 98.000
    FC Porto (POR) 81.000
    FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR/CH) 63.000
    Royal Antwerp FC (BEL/CH) 17.000
    Barcelona, Porto
    Antwerp -> EL

    Sounds about right.

    SophCon loading...

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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 31 22:28:49 2023
    Quoting Werner Pichler in rec.sport.soccer:
    Group B

    Sevilla FC (ESP/TH-EL) 91.000
    Arsenal FC (ENG) 76.000
    PSV (NED) 43.000
    RC Lens (FRA) 12.232

    Isn't the Europa League draw tomorrow?


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com on Fri Sep 1 00:28:16 2023
    In article <7vt1fiti5eusnrohk2blrir203qlre17p4@4ax.com>,
    anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
    Quoting Werner Pichler in rec.sport.soccer:
    Group B

    Sevilla FC (ESP/TH-EL) 91.000
    Arsenal FC (ENG) 76.000
    PSV (NED) 43.000
    RC Lens (FRA) 12.232

    Isn't the Europa League draw tomorrow?


    Ha! HA!!


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to wpichler@gmail.com on Fri Sep 1 00:27:43 2023
    In article <6d8a2b7a-78c6-40f2-989e-7aadd05de39bn@googlegroups.com>,
    Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:
    Group A

    FC Bayern München (GER/CH) 136.000
    Manchester United FC (ENG) 104.000
    FC København (DEN/CH) 40.500
    Galatasaray SK (TUR/CH) 31.500


    Munich and Man U into Round of 16 , Gala UL


    Group B

    Sevilla FC (ESP/TH-EL) 91.000
    Arsenal FC (ENG) 76.000
    PSV (NED) 43.000
    RC Lens (FRA) 12.232


    Arsenal and Sevilla go forth, PSV UL


    Group C

    SSC Napoli (ITA/CH) 81.000
    Real Madrid CF (ESP) 121.000
    SC Braga (POR) 44.000
    1. FC Union Berlin (GER) 17.000

    RM and Braga with Napoli UL



    Group D

    SL Benfica (POR/CH) 82.000
    FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) 96.000
    FC Salzburg (AUT/CH) 59.000
    Real Sociedad (ESP) 33.000


    Benfica and RS go R16 and Slazburg drops to CL


    Group E

    Feyenoord (NED/CH) 51.000
    Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP) 85.000
    SS Lazio (ITA) 42.000
    Celtic FC (SCO/CH) 31.000


    Atl and Feyenoord go forth with Celtic UL


    Group F

    Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA/CH) 112.000
    BV Borussia 09 Dortmund (GER) 86.000
    AC Milan (ITA) 50.000
    Newcastle United FC (ENG) 21.914


    PSG and Newcastle into R16

    Dortmund UL

    Group G

    Manchester City FC (ENG/CH/TH-CL) 145.000
    RB Leipzig (GER) 84.000
    FK Crvena Zvezda (SRB/CH) 42.000
    BSC Young Boys (SUI/CH) 34.500


    Man C an Belgrade R16 and Leipzig drop


    Group H

    FC Barcelona (ESP/CH) 98.000
    FC Porto (POR) 81.000
    FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR/CH) 63.000
    Royal Antwerp FC (BEL/CH) 17.000


    Porto and Donetsk into R16 Barca UL



    Ciao,
    Werner


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