• On the cheating and lying

    From ***patriots***redsox@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 15 07:20:17 2020
    XPost: alt.sports.football.pro.pitt-steelers, alt.sports.baseball.bos-redsox, ne.general

    One is bad. The other is worse.

    From what I can tell it’s been a bad week around here! For
    reasons I’m too lazy to get into I haven’t yet subscribed to the
    Athletic, so I haven’t read Evan Drellich and Ken Rosenthal’s
    apparent bombshell revelation that the Red Sox systematically
    stole signs during 2018’s title run, but I’m willing to concede
    all of it, up front, because I’m sure it’s true. The Astros
    clearly did it in 2017 and the Red Sox almost certainly did it
    two years ago, and since they’re just the ones that were caught
    I’m willing to bet there are dozens more.

    The whole scandal is literally a joke. Carlos Beltrán earned his
    stripes as a Yankees bench coach and, in giggling asides, was
    revealed to be an expert sign stealer. It is not hard to connect
    the dots from Boston to Alex Cora back to Houston, look in
    tandem with the Beltrán hiring, and suspect sign-stealing is a
    discrete qualification for getting managing job rather than a
    black mark.

    Maybe it shouldn’t be surprising when the owners are also
    systematically stealing from the players, but it feels gross and
    wrong, even if in some ways an outgrowth of the natural
    competitiveness of everyone involved. That argument alone --
    that it’s okay because they really want to win -- is silly on
    its own, because it would excuse a lot more, but it is surely a
    supplemental factor. They really, really want to win.

    For that at least we can be glad. The only saving grace of this
    affair, as with the steroid era, is that the players are trying
    to be good, but at this point it’s fair to say that the
    “scandals” are as much features of the game as they are bugs.
    There’s also a winner’s curse, insofar as some fans, to use a
    scientific term, hate us because they ain’t us. Baseball players
    will always look for an edge, and where best to start but with
    the champs?

    None of that excuses the Red Sox in any of this or makes it any
    more palatable. It sure seems like Cora isn’t going anywhere,
    and if the Sox were actually concerned you’d think they’d have
    cut bait on him immediately. Given that A.J. Hinch is still
    around in Houston and Beltrán is newly employed in Queens, one
    suspects that the organization is going to take a body blow from
    the league in terms of fines or draft picks but otherwise plow
    forward as normal. That’s how you’ll know they don’t really care
    about all of it, just as I don’t, in principle, but it’s only
    going to get worse.

    They’ll probably still try to cheat, too. Bill Belichick has
    shown the way on this: You don’t stop because they caught you,
    because that’s exactly what they’d expect. And I have to be
    honest the cheating itself doesn’t bother me nearly as much as
    it does some others, mostly because I am selfish and like good
    baseball and I got to see 2018 with my eyes and liked it and
    really do figure that this is more a forever problem than
    something neat and tidy to shunt away.

    The part that bothers me hasn’t happened yet. It’s the lying,
    and it’s coming as sure as the tide. At least during the steroid
    era the lying was a means of self-preservation, whereas now
    it’ll be simply a way to stall before the world falls apart in a
    more consequential way and the trending topics update. It’s
    frightfully simple and ultimately, like the Sox’s payroll
    shenanigans, it’ll work because we ultimately love the Red Sox
    too much to give them up and like seeing them beat the hell out
    of other baseball teams from time to time.

    No what bothers me is that, as with the Mookie Betts nonsense
    and all the other hedge-fund stupidity the Sox are up to, they
    will talk around any real concerns up to and maybe to the point
    of being offended by them, and no further, and it will remain as
    frustrating as ever to root for a team that was on top of the
    world 15 months ago. Their descent has been so complete as to be
    objectively impressive, I’ll admit, but it’s always easier to
    destroy than create. You do not, in fact, have to hand it to
    them, even if they start telling the truth. But they won’t.

    https://www.overthemonster.com/2020/1/9/21058128/boston-red-sox- sign-stealing-cheating-lying-does-it-matter
     

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