• N.F.L. Owners Won't Penalize Players for Kneeling During Anthem

    From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 17 20:11:30 2017
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    The N.F.L. for now will continue to let players kneel or sit during
    the national anthem without a penalty, capitulating to demands by
    the athletes for free expression but potentially further alienating
    fans who object to the protests and feel they are disrespectful to
    the flag and the military.

    But, after a meeting Tuesday with union representatives and players,
    the league did promise to help support some of the causes targeted
    by the protesting players, including reform of the criminal justice
    system.

    The owners’ decision to not toughen the league’s stance on anthem demonstrations showed yet again the contortions they have been going
    through to display support for their players while wrestling with
    the political fallout of the sideline protests that have persisted
    since last season.

    The players, largely on social media, had made clear they would not
    abide penalties for sitting or kneeling during the pregame anthem,
    while legal experts wondered if any punitive change would hold up in
    court. The gestures began last season, spurred by Colin Kaepernick,
    then the quarterback of the San Francisco 49ers, to draw attention
    to racial oppression and police brutality against black Americans.

    The Miami Dolphins’ owner, Stephen Ross, speaking in New York at a
    business meeting of the 32 owners, said that the league had made no
    changes to its policy and that players would be free to protest
    again this weekend.

    “I can’t really tell you what people are going to do,” Ross said
    when asked if players would continue to protest. “The league has a
    policy. It hasn’t changed.”

    The league’s rule book never required players to stand for the
    anthem but says they must be on the sideline during the song and
    “should” stand for it.

    The ambiguity in the rule has made it difficult for the league to
    fine players who have either sat or knelt for the anthem, and the
    owners had discussed clarifying the wording to make standing for the
    anthem mandatory.

    By leaving the rule alone, the league has chosen to avoid more
    internal strife with its players and to potentially weather more
    criticism from fans and President Trump, who has repeatedly
    ridiculed the league for not firing players who demonstrate during
    the anthem.

    “We need to be above petty attacks from anybody, because racial and socioeconomic inequality has existed in this country for too long,”
    Jed York, the chief executive and co-owner of the San Francisco
    49ers, said when asked about the president’s criticism of the
    league. “You got to block out the noise and go do your job, and
    that’s what we need to focus on.”

    The meeting on Tuesday included the N.F.L.’s commissioner, Roger
    Goodell; the director of the players’ union, DeMaurice F. Smith; and
    11 owners, including Robert K. Kraft of the New England Patriots and
    Arthur M. Blank of the Atlanta Falcons. They met for almost four
    hours with a dozen players, including Malcolm Jenkins of the
    Philadelphia Eagles, Eric Reid of the 49ers and Kenny Stills of the
    Dolphins, all of whom have protested during the anthem.

    “We just talked about how the owners could come alongside us and we
    could, collectively, collaboratively, work together to actually
    create some change, real changes,” Jenkins said afterward, flanked
    by other players. “We feel a real responsibility to our country, to
    our communities, so we’re working through ways to really have long
    lasting, real change.”

    Jenkins said there had been no discussion during the meeting about
    prohibiting players from kneeling during the national anthem;
    whether players continue to do so, he said, would be an individual
    decision.

    He also said that Kaepernick had been invited to the meeting but
    chose not to attend. Kaepernick’s lawyer, Mark Geragos, later said
    it was possible that Kaepernick would attend future meetings.

    The league’s broadcasters and sponsors have tried to tiptoe past the
    public spat as pockets of fans have said they would no longer go to
    games or buy N.F.L. merchandise. Some teams, too, have had to handle
    a large number of calls from angry fans. Last week, the Jaguars took
    the unusual step of apologizing to military leaders in the
    Jacksonville area for demonstrating during the national anthem
    before their game in London last month.

    According to a copy of the letter obtained by The Associated Press,
    the Jaguars’ president, Mark Lamping, said that the team was “remiss
    in not fully comprehending the effect of the national anthem
    demonstration on foreign soil has had on the men and women who have
    or continue to serve our country.”

    To find a way to extinguish the crisis, Goodell has tried to
    persuade the players’ union to help him to persuade the players to
    stand for the anthem.

    On Monday, Goodell and Seattle Seahawks wide receiver Doug Baldwin
    sent a letter of support to the congressional sponsors of the
    Sentencing Reform and Correction Act, a bill designed to increase rehabilitation of people convicted of crimes.

    Protesters from the Black Lives Matter movement gathered outside the
    hotel where the owners were meeting. One demonstrator, Hank Newsome,
    said Kaepernick was being unfairly treated by the N.F.L. because he
    brought attention to uncomfortable issues, including racism.

    “What I see with the N.F.L. owners is a bunch of good old boys
    telling the players: Stay in your place,” he said.

    Not long after, two protesters confronted the Dallas Cowboys owner
    Jerry Jones as he walked through the lobby of the hotel, saying that
    the players were kneeling during the anthem to end white supremacy.
    Jones listened to the protesters but did not speak to them.

    Goodell said late Tuesday that the owners had not asked the players
    for a pledge to stop protesting during the anthem. He said the
    league and players would most likely meet again in the next two
    weeks.

    Goodell’s efforts to forge a consensus among the owners come as they
    are considering whether to extend his current contract by another
    five years.

    Goodell has tried to mollify the players by visiting Philadelphia,
    Miami and other cities to speak to them and witness their work in
    the community.

    But with the president continuing to harangue the N.F.L. on Twitter,
    and fans increasingly upset about the league’s handling of the
    issue, including in Jacksonville, where a fan paid to have a plane
    fly over the Jaguars’ stadium carrying a message calling for a
    boycott of the team and the N.F.L., the owners continue to fret over
    the protests and how they will affect the league’s brand when
    television ratings have started to slip.

    The league also continues to grapple with Kaepernick, who filed a
    grievance accusing the owners of colluding to keep him from joining
    a team. Kaepernick, who led the 49ers to the Super Bowl in 2013, has
    remained unsigned since leaving the team in March.

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  • From TruthBarker@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Wed Oct 18 13:36:11 2017
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    On 10/17/2017 09:11 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    The N.F.L. for now will continue to let players kneel or sit during
    the national anthem without a penalty, capitulating to demands by
    the athletes for free expression but potentially further alienating
    fans who object to the protests and feel they are disrespectful to
    the flag and the military.

    But, after a meeting Tuesday with union representatives and players,
    the league did promise to help support some of the causes targeted
    by the protesting players, including reform of the criminal justice
    system.

    The owners’ decision to not toughen the league’s stance on anthem demonstrations showed yet again the contortions they have been going
    through to display support for their players while wrestling with
    the political fallout of the sideline protests that have persisted
    since last season.

    The players, largely on social media, had made clear they would not
    abide penalties for sitting or kneeling during the pregame anthem,
    while legal experts wondered if any punitive change would hold up in
    court. The gestures began last season, spurred by Colin Kaepernick,
    then the quarterback of the San Francisco 49ers, to draw attention
    to racial oppression and police brutality against black Americans.

    The Miami Dolphins’ owner, Stephen Ross, speaking in New York at a
    business meeting of the 32 owners, said that the league had made no
    changes to its policy and that players would be free to protest
    again this weekend.

    “I can’t really tell you what people are going to do,” Ross said
    when asked if players would continue to protest. “The league has a
    policy. It hasn’t changed.”

    The league’s rule book never required players to stand for the
    anthem but says they must be on the sideline during the song and
    “should” stand for it.

    The ambiguity in the rule has made it difficult for the league to
    fine players who have either sat or knelt for the anthem, and the
    owners had discussed clarifying the wording to make standing for the
    anthem mandatory.

    By leaving the rule alone, the league has chosen to avoid more
    internal strife with its players and to potentially weather more
    criticism from fans and President Trump, who has repeatedly
    ridiculed the league for not firing players who demonstrate during
    the anthem.

    “We need to be above petty attacks from anybody, because racial and socioeconomic inequality has existed in this country for too long,”
    Jed York, the chief executive and co-owner of the San Francisco
    49ers, said when asked about the president’s criticism of the
    league. “You got to block out the noise and go do your job, and
    that’s what we need to focus on.”

    The meeting on Tuesday included the N.F.L.’s commissioner, Roger
    Goodell; the director of the players’ union, DeMaurice F. Smith; and
    11 owners, including Robert K. Kraft of the New England Patriots and
    Arthur M. Blank of the Atlanta Falcons. They met for almost four
    hours with a dozen players, including Malcolm Jenkins of the
    Philadelphia Eagles, Eric Reid of the 49ers and Kenny Stills of the
    Dolphins, all of whom have protested during the anthem.

    “We just talked about how the owners could come alongside us and we
    could, collectively, collaboratively, work together to actually
    create some change, real changes,” Jenkins said afterward, flanked
    by other players. “We feel a real responsibility to our country, to
    our communities, so we’re working through ways to really have long
    lasting, real change.”

    Jenkins said there had been no discussion during the meeting about prohibiting players from kneeling during the national anthem;
    whether players continue to do so, he said, would be an individual
    decision.

    He also said that Kaepernick had been invited to the meeting but
    chose not to attend. Kaepernick’s lawyer, Mark Geragos, later said
    it was possible that Kaepernick would attend future meetings.

    The league’s broadcasters and sponsors have tried to tiptoe past the
    public spat as pockets of fans have said they would no longer go to
    games or buy N.F.L. merchandise. Some teams, too, have had to handle
    a large number of calls from angry fans. Last week, the Jaguars took
    the unusual step of apologizing to military leaders in the
    Jacksonville area for demonstrating during the national anthem
    before their game in London last month.

    According to a copy of the letter obtained by The Associated Press,
    the Jaguars’ president, Mark Lamping, said that the team was “remiss
    in not fully comprehending the effect of the national anthem
    demonstration on foreign soil has had on the men and women who have
    or continue to serve our country.”

    To find a way to extinguish the crisis, Goodell has tried to
    persuade the players’ union to help him to persuade the players to
    stand for the anthem.

    On Monday, Goodell and Seattle Seahawks wide receiver Doug Baldwin
    sent a letter of support to the congressional sponsors of the
    Sentencing Reform and Correction Act, a bill designed to increase rehabilitation of people convicted of crimes.

    Protesters from the Black Lives Matter movement gathered outside the
    hotel where the owners were meeting. One demonstrator, Hank Newsome,
    said Kaepernick was being unfairly treated by the N.F.L. because he
    brought attention to uncomfortable issues, including racism.

    “What I see with the N.F.L. owners is a bunch of good old boys
    telling the players: Stay in your place,” he said.

    Not long after, two protesters confronted the Dallas Cowboys owner
    Jerry Jones as he walked through the lobby of the hotel, saying that
    the players were kneeling during the anthem to end white supremacy.
    Jones listened to the protesters but did not speak to them.

    Goodell said late Tuesday that the owners had not asked the players
    for a pledge to stop protesting during the anthem. He said the
    league and players would most likely meet again in the next two
    weeks.

    Goodell’s efforts to forge a consensus among the owners come as they
    are considering whether to extend his current contract by another
    five years.

    Goodell has tried to mollify the players by visiting Philadelphia,
    Miami and other cities to speak to them and witness their work in
    the community.

    But with the president continuing to harangue the N.F.L. on Twitter,
    and fans increasingly upset about the league’s handling of the
    issue, including in Jacksonville, where a fan paid to have a plane
    fly over the Jaguars’ stadium carrying a message calling for a
    boycott of the team and the N.F.L., the owners continue to fret over
    the protests and how they will affect the league’s brand when
    television ratings have started to slip.

    The league also continues to grapple with Kaepernick, who filed a
    grievance accusing the owners of colluding to keep him from joining
    a team. Kaepernick, who led the 49ers to the Super Bowl in 2013, has
    remained unsigned since leaving the team in March.


    Title: Trump Criticizes N.F.L. for Not Penalizing Anthem Kneeling

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/17/sports/football/nfl-anthem-protests-trump.html


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