• On Monday's Mark Levin Show

    From Peter Franks@21:1/5 to FPP on Mon Oct 9 11:26:59 2017
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    On 10/5/2017 4:38 PM, FPP wrote:
    On 10/5/17 6:18 PM, Peter Franks wrote:
    On 10/4/2017 3:41 PM, FPP wrote:
    On 10/4/17 1:35 PM, Peter Franks wrote:
    On 9/30/2017 2:23 PM, FPP wrote:
    On 9/30/17 11:50 AM, Peter Franks wrote:
    On 9/29/2017 10:16 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 9/29/2017 9:16 AM, Peter Franks wrote:
    On 9/28/2017 9:26 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 9/28/2017 5:27 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 9/28/2017 2:12 PM, Peter Franks wrote:
    On 9/28/2017 10:44 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 9/28/2017 9:36 AM, Peter Franks wrote:
    On 9/26/2017 5:25 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 9/26/2017 10:41 AM, Peter Franks wrote:
    On 9/25/2017 6:05 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    On Monday’s Mark Levin show, Bill Cunningham fills in for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark.
    Pundits at CNN, MSNBC and ESPN talk about the NFL players >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having a
    right to speak under the 1st Amendment. ...

    Help me understand, what exactly are the (participating) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> players protesting?

    https://tinyurl.com/ybv5bahq is about the original protests. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    OK, now help me understand, what does abstaining from the >>>>>>>>>>>>> National Anthem have to do with police brutality?

    The additional players this past weekend might have been >>>>>>>>>>>>>> protesting Trump's call for firing protestors.

    And following that, help me understand, what does abstaining >>>>>>>>>>>>> from the National Anthem have to do with Trump?

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    Here are the lyrics:

    Oh, say! can you see by the dawn's early light
    What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming; >>>>>>>>>>>>> Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous >>>>>>>>>>>>> fight,
    O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming? >>>>>>>>>>>>> And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, say! does that star-spangled banner yet wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I see no mention of police, brutality sanctioned or otherwise, >>>>>>>>>>>>> or even Trump.

    ???

    Shouldn't these so-called protestors actually and specifically >>>>>>>>>>>>> protest what they are against, instead of generalizing their >>>>>>>>>>>>> condemnation of the entire country and what it stands for? I >>>>>>>>>>>>> guess this is a manifestation of CTE (chronic traumatic >>>>>>>>>>>>> encephalopathy) ?

    They aren't condemning the entire country and what it stands >>>>>>>>>>>> for.

    Umm, they /are/...

    They are saying there is a serious enough flaw that undermines >>>>>>>>>>>> some of the basic things the anthem stands for (e.g., equal >>>>>>>>>>>> protection under the law).

    Where exactly is that flaw? Id est, where is that flaw codified >>>>>>>>>>> in the anthem, declaration or the constitution?

    The Equal Protection Clause in the Constitution.

    Just to clarify, the flaw is that the Equal Protection Clause is >>>>>>>>> not being adhered to in practice.

    So what does that have to do with not honoring the anthem and what >>>>>>>> it stands for?

    The anthem stands for - among other things - Equal Protection under >>>>>>> the law. When that isn't being adhered to in practice, it seems >>>>>>> reasonable to me to protest that failure to live up to what the
    anthem stands for by taking a knee.

    Well my friend, you are 100% wrong.

    Then anthem stands for the virtues of freedom that form the
    foundation of this country. Take and knee and you are taking a knee >>>>>> to freedom.

    Hey, have a nice day!

    I get these clowns and their misguided point, but their
    manifestation of their disagreement is more flawed than any
    misapplication of equal protection.

    If they are protesting the police power, then don't wear blue; if >>>>>>>> they are protesting the legislative power, then don't wear white. >>>>>>>> But stand for the anthem and for what it stands for.

    This country is being overrun by brain-dead morons. And it appears >>>>>>>> to be contagious...

    You don't get to tell people how they can express their political
    beliefs.

    Yep, you are absolutely correct. I can't, nor can anyone else tell
    them
    how to express their beliefs.

    I can, however, point out the idiocy of their ways.

    That's what this country stands for... not some shitty song, or
    colored rag.

    Nobody fought or died for a piece of cloth or a tune. It's what they >>>>> represent that people died for.

    That's right, it represents freedom, which is what, in large part,
    those
    people died for.

    So when you protest the representation (e.g. the flag, the anthem), you >>>> protest what it represents, which is freedom. If you protest freedom, >>>> the implication is that you support oppression.

    Conclusion: the players manifestly support oppression, which is what
    they say that they are against.

    Mo·rón (mō-rōn′) definition, Informal. a person who is notably
    stupid or
    lacking in good judgment: ...

    Seems about right.

    A government that allows it's representatives to single out a racial
    group for extermination isn't a bastion freedom, no matter what the
    lyrics say.

    ?

    Which group is allowed by government to exterminate?

    The ones they're shooting in the back 8 times for a broken tail light.

    To which incident(s) are you referring?

    The ones they're choking to death on the street for selling cigarettes.

    To which incident(s) are you referring?

    The ones they're shooting while sitting in their cars minding their own business.

    To which incident(s) are you referring?

    You know... those kinds of people.

    You're obsessing over a song and a piece of cloth while black men are
    being murdered for little to no reason - and for no crime and without
    benefit of trial.

    Freedom, my ass.

    Perhaps you can point out where in the anthem or Constitution there is
    institutional support for 'black men being murdered'.

    Perhaps you should go fuck yourself.

    You insist the flag is a symbol of our country, but don't want to hold
    the people who work for that country accountable.

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  • From TruthBarker@21:1/5 to Peter Franks on Mon Oct 9 16:34:57 2017
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    On 10/09/2017 02:26 PM, Peter Franks wrote:
    On 10/5/2017 4:38 PM, FPP wrote:
    On 10/5/17 6:18 PM, Peter Franks wrote:
    On 10/4/2017 3:41 PM, FPP wrote:
    ............................

    To which incident(s) are you referring?

    The ones they're choking to death on the street for selling cigarettes.

    To which incident(s) are you referring?

    The ones they're shooting while sitting in their cars minding their
    own business.

    To which incident(s) are you referring?

    ...........................

    Here is a published list of police shooting for 2015 to 2017.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2017/

    There is definitely a disproportionate deaths suffered by black
    Americans and this is one of the problems they are trying to address.
    They get shot for the most mundane situations. Some of the shootings are outright slaughter. Police rage, there are no consequences.

    If I were a black American, I would be terrified to step outside. I
    might never come back home.

    I don’t want to speak for the black Americans, they are very capable
    voicing the inequalities they see every day. As I see it, “Black lives matter” is not exclusive, they are saying their lives matter as much as
    other Americans. They want “make America great again” to be an inclusive thing. Many with an agenda have characterized “Black lives matter” as a collective yell of hatred. There are many reasons for this, political
    gain is at the forefront.

    Kneeling is in prayer to God for a better life.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 9 21:05:00 2017
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    On Mondays Mark Levin show, Its Columbus Day, but not in Los
    Angeles where they are celebrating the citys first Indigenous
    Peoples Day. Yes this is another point of history where we are
    supposed to espouse the left, because all these people in our past
    were not as great as Al Sharpton, Chuck Schumer, Barack Obama or
    Nancy Pelosi. The left is busy defacing monuments of Columbus and
    others, because according to them America is a terrible place and
    leftists are the only perfect people. The truth is that we dont
    know what Indigenous Peoples Day means as research is showing that
    the first Americans may have been descended from people out of
    Southeast Asia, particular Australia. The city of Los Angeles
    doesnt know what indigenous means either. The goal is to trash the
    country and trash Americas Founding. The left believes that what
    Christopher Columbus did in discovering America must be destroyed
    and ripped out from the history books. The people who are attacking
    Columbus Day know exactly what they are doing. It is the Marxist
    left and social justice warriors that are behind this. They want to
    destroy Americanism. Also, all of us should celebrate Columbus Day,
    because what Columbus brought to this country was a modern world, so
    we could live the way we live today. It was not paradise before
    Columbus came, not in the least. The pre-Columbus world was harsh.
    For example, the Aztecs practiced human sacrifice and treated
    conquered tribes lethally. In addition, what Mike Pence did by
    leaving the NFL game because of the protest was courageous. He has
    exposed the NFL players. People are accusing Pence of making a
    choreographed move, yet the NFL players taking a knee is
    choreographed. Protests by NFL players have lost all substance. They
    have taken their celebrity status and abused it with their protest.
    If you are really a social justice warrior prove it. What most
    sportscasters and mouth pieces dont understand is that the regular
    working people who watch the NFL do not support the players taking a
    knee. Later, Bob Corker was happy to eviscerate the Treaty Clause of
    the Constitution with the Iran deal. The Treaty Clause requires
    two-thirds of Senators to agree to ratify treaties. Alexander
    Hamilton explained in Federalist 75 that if we were to have legal
    arrangements with another country, more than one man should be
    involved.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 16 21:05:00 2017
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    On Mondays Mark Levin show, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell
    has a stunning dearth of knowledge when it comes to the Tea Party.
    He doubled down on his support for establishment candidates saying conservatives simply cannot win general elections. McConnell needs a
    history lesson on the Tea Party. Marco Rubio. Mike Lee. Rand Paul.
    Ted Cruz. These are but a few winning Tea Party candidates that were
    opposed by the establishment but are now key figures in the
    Republican majority. The Senate is not going to embrace conservative
    principles or deal with the debt unless Mitch McConnell is thrown
    out of office. After that Ambassador to Israel, Ron Dermer calls in
    to talk about the Iran deal. President Trump gave a historic speech
    in presenting his decertification of the deal. Trumps speech
    signified that America has a President that is ready to take on
    Iran. This is a militant Islamic regime that wants to export its
    radical ideology around the world. The Iran deal was a very bad deal
    and put the International Community on cruise control heading over a
    cliff. Trump could have kicked the can down the road but has made
    the responsible decision in decertifying. When Israelis and Arabs
    are supportive of something that tells you it is pretty sound
    policy. Later, some think that the NFL teams are colluding against
    Colin Kaepernick to keep him off the field. Maybe it is because he
    just isnt that good. He and other NFL players take a knee for
    police brutality, but there is not systemic racial violence done by
    police. However, there is systemic violence against the police. In
    2016,118 law enforcement officers died in line of duty compared to
    86 the year before. In addition, another 57,000 officers were
    assaulted in the line of duty and 16,000 of those sustained
    injuries.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 8 21:05:00 2020
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    On Mondays Mark Levin Show, If NFL fans are systemically racist like
    Roger Goodell says, then people should want nothing to do with the
    league. If these professional sports owners and athletes think America
    has racist DNA then we should abandon the NFL, NBA, and the like. If
    we are racist then Goodell should step down and let an African American
    take his job. Interestingly, many of these sports-millionaires
    specifically choose not to live in the communities that are being
    plagued by poor Democrat policies, like Watts, Harlem, or the South
    Side of Chicago and its not because they hate the police its
    because these hypocrites dont want to live in neighborhoods with high
    crime rates. Later, Speaker Pelosi chimes in on the Defund the Police
    hype. Kamala Harris, the former Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the
    State of California claims to be re-balancing and re-imagining public
    safety, despite these same cities being under their Democrat control
    for half of a century. Afterward, while the left claims that America
    is systemically racist, the number of interracial marriages approaches
    nearly 20% of all marriages in the U.S. There are politicians that
    commit crimes and weve never defunded them, this just proves that
    police are being unfairly targeted.

    THIS IS FROM:

    Creators
    The Black Community and Crime (January 2017) https://www.creators.com/read/walter-williams/01/17/the-black-community-and-crime

    AFP
    Democrats take a knee in US Congress in George Floyd tribute https://news.yahoo.com/democrats-knee-us-congress-george-floyd-tribute-154636468.html?guccounter=1

    FRatherly
    The Cost of Taking a Family to a Football/Baseball/Basketball Game is Obscene (2017)
    https://www.fatherly.com/play/family-tickets-football-game-basketball/

    University of Pennsylvania
    Letter from a Birmingham Jail [King, Jr.] https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html

    Daily Wire
    Emotional NBA Coach: Im Embarrassed As A White Person https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch-emotional-nba-coach-im-embarrassed-as-a-white-person

    Chicago Sun Times
    18 murders in 24 hours: Inside the most violent day in 60 years in Chicago https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/6/8/21281998/chicago-violence-murder-history-homicide-police-crime

    NY Post
    Shootings, murders rose dramatically in NYC last week amid backdrop of protests https://nypost.com/2020/06/08/shootings-and-murders-rise-dramatically-in-nyc-last-week/

    The Federalist
    Nancy Pelosi Dodges Questions On Black Lives Matter Demands To Defund Police https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/08/nancy-pelosi-dodges-questions-on-black-lives-matter-demands-to-defund-police/

    The Federalist
    Kamala Harris Dodges Question On Whether To Defund Police https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/08/kamala-harris-dodges-question-on-whether-to-defund-police/

    Global Times
    Number of interracial marriage increasing in US (2019) http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1158363.shtml

    CNN
    Michelle Obama to 2020 graduates: For those of you who feel invisible: Please know that your story matters
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/07/politics/michelle-obama-race-relations-2020-commencement/index.html

    Breitbart
    Powell: Trump Is Dangerous to Our Country https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/06/07/powell-trump-is-dangerous-to-our-country/

    Daily Wire
    NYPD Takes Protester Into Custody Who Allegedly Threatened To Burn Down Diamond District During Fox News Interview, Report Says
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/nypd-takes-protester-into-custody-who-allegedly-threatened-to-burn-down-diamond-district-during-fox-news-interview-report-says

    City Journal
    I Must Object
    https://www.city-journal.org/brown-university-letter-racism

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