On 10/5/17 6:18 PM, Peter Franks wrote:
On 10/4/2017 3:41 PM, FPP wrote:
On 10/4/17 1:35 PM, Peter Franks wrote:
On 9/30/2017 2:23 PM, FPP wrote:
On 9/30/17 11:50 AM, Peter Franks wrote:
On 9/29/2017 10:16 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
On 9/29/2017 9:16 AM, Peter Franks wrote:
On 9/28/2017 9:26 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
On 9/28/2017 5:27 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
On 9/28/2017 2:12 PM, Peter Franks wrote:
On 9/28/2017 10:44 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
On 9/28/2017 9:36 AM, Peter Franks wrote:
On 9/26/2017 5:25 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
On 9/26/2017 10:41 AM, Peter Franks wrote:OK, now help me understand, what does abstaining from the >>>>>>>>>>>>> National Anthem have to do with police brutality?
On 9/25/2017 6:05 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
On Monday’s Mark Levin show, Bill Cunningham fills in for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark.
Pundits at CNN, MSNBC and ESPN talk about the NFL players >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having a
right to speak under the 1st Amendment. ...
Help me understand, what exactly are the (participating) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> players protesting?
https://tinyurl.com/ybv5bahq is about the original protests. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
The additional players this past weekend might have been >>>>>>>>>>>>>> protesting Trump's call for firing protestors.
And following that, help me understand, what does abstaining >>>>>>>>>>>>> from the National Anthem have to do with Trump?
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Here are the lyrics:
Oh, say! can you see by the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming; >>>>>>>>>>>>> Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous >>>>>>>>>>>>> fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming? >>>>>>>>>>>>> And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, say! does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
I see no mention of police, brutality sanctioned or otherwise, >>>>>>>>>>>>> or even Trump.
???
Shouldn't these so-called protestors actually and specifically >>>>>>>>>>>>> protest what they are against, instead of generalizing their >>>>>>>>>>>>> condemnation of the entire country and what it stands for? I >>>>>>>>>>>>> guess this is a manifestation of CTE (chronic traumatic >>>>>>>>>>>>> encephalopathy) ?
They aren't condemning the entire country and what it stands >>>>>>>>>>>> for.
Umm, they /are/...
They are saying there is a serious enough flaw that undermines >>>>>>>>>>>> some of the basic things the anthem stands for (e.g., equal >>>>>>>>>>>> protection under the law).
Where exactly is that flaw? Id est, where is that flaw codified >>>>>>>>>>> in the anthem, declaration or the constitution?
The Equal Protection Clause in the Constitution.
Just to clarify, the flaw is that the Equal Protection Clause is >>>>>>>>> not being adhered to in practice.
So what does that have to do with not honoring the anthem and what >>>>>>>> it stands for?
The anthem stands for - among other things - Equal Protection under >>>>>>> the law. When that isn't being adhered to in practice, it seems >>>>>>> reasonable to me to protest that failure to live up to what the
anthem stands for by taking a knee.
Well my friend, you are 100% wrong.
Then anthem stands for the virtues of freedom that form the
foundation of this country. Take and knee and you are taking a knee >>>>>> to freedom.
Hey, have a nice day!
I get these clowns and their misguided point, but their
manifestation of their disagreement is more flawed than any
misapplication of equal protection.
If they are protesting the police power, then don't wear blue; if >>>>>>>> they are protesting the legislative power, then don't wear white. >>>>>>>> But stand for the anthem and for what it stands for.
This country is being overrun by brain-dead morons. And it appears >>>>>>>> to be contagious...
You don't get to tell people how they can express their political
beliefs.
Yep, you are absolutely correct. I can't, nor can anyone else tell
them
how to express their beliefs.
I can, however, point out the idiocy of their ways.
That's what this country stands for... not some shitty song, or
colored rag.
Nobody fought or died for a piece of cloth or a tune. It's what they >>>>> represent that people died for.
That's right, it represents freedom, which is what, in large part,
those
people died for.
So when you protest the representation (e.g. the flag, the anthem), you >>>> protest what it represents, which is freedom. If you protest freedom, >>>> the implication is that you support oppression.
Conclusion: the players manifestly support oppression, which is what
they say that they are against.
Mo·rón (mō-rōn′) definition, Informal. a person who is notably
stupid or
lacking in good judgment: ...
Seems about right.
A government that allows it's representatives to single out a racial
group for extermination isn't a bastion freedom, no matter what the
lyrics say.
?
Which group is allowed by government to exterminate?
The ones they're shooting in the back 8 times for a broken tail light.
The ones they're choking to death on the street for selling cigarettes.
The ones they're shooting while sitting in their cars minding their own business.
You know... those kinds of people.
You're obsessing over a song and a piece of cloth while black men are
being murdered for little to no reason - and for no crime and without
benefit of trial.
Freedom, my ass.
Perhaps you can point out where in the anthem or Constitution there is
institutional support for 'black men being murdered'.
Perhaps you should go fuck yourself.
You insist the flag is a symbol of our country, but don't want to hold
the people who work for that country accountable.
On 10/5/2017 4:38 PM, FPP wrote:............................
On 10/5/17 6:18 PM, Peter Franks wrote:
On 10/4/2017 3:41 PM, FPP wrote:
To which incident(s) are you referring?
The ones they're choking to death on the street for selling cigarettes.
To which incident(s) are you referring?
The ones they're shooting while sitting in their cars minding their
own business.
To which incident(s) are you referring?
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