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Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:29:52 +0100, PipL <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote:

Which is why I usually walk rather than take the bus.

It was easier last time, though: one of the advantages of snowboarding boots.

I thought one of the advantages of snowboarding boots was to fell smug
in the company of skiers when having to walk anywhere?

At its apogee on the arrette from Aiguille de Midi to the starting
point of the Vallee Blanche

Take snow crampons for your ski boots for this descent. It's snow and
steep so a hard boot like an Alpine boot or a ski boot is best.

Frankly, the next time I ski this I am going to ski straight from the
head exit along the VB side and then down the couloir or the face and
over the bergschrund.

That circus of guided skiers all crawling down the fixed rope is
really annoying.

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On Fri, 08 Apr 2016 17:45:04 +0100, "funkraum_@hotmail.com" <funkraum_@hotmail.com> wrote:

I thought one of the advantages of snowboarding boots was to fell smug
in the company of skiers when having to walk anywhere?

At its apogee on the arrette from Aiguille de Midi to the starting
point of the Vallee Blanche

Take snow crampons for your ski boots for this descent. It's snow and
steep so a hard boot like an Alpine boot or a ski boot is best.

This is nonsense - I've walked down there loads of times in snowboard
boots, and it's just like walking down your own stairs in slippers.
I've remotely understood why skiers make such a meal of it, but I
think it's mostly down to inexperience rather than any inherent
problem with ski boots. I know Ace of this parish would walk down
there at least as quickly as i do.

Frankly, the next time I ski this I am going to ski straight from the
head exit along the VB side and then down the couloir or the face and
over the bergschrund.

Ok, that I'd like to see.

That circus of guided skiers all crawling down the fixed rope is
really annoying.

It is that! I think it just takes one scared person to hold everyone
up.

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On Sat, 09 Apr 2016 14:52:10 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

On Fri, 08 Apr 2016 17:45:04 +0100, "funkraum_@hotmail.com" ><funkraum_@hotmail.com> wrote:

[Aiguille du Midi]

Frankly, the next time I ski this I am going to ski straight from the
head exit along the VB side and then down the couloir or the face and
over the bergschrund.

Ok, that I'd like to see.

That circus of guided skiers all crawling down the fixed rope is
really annoying.

It is that! I think it just takes one scared person to hold everyone
up.

This is one thing I really want to do (the Vallee Blanche, not holding
people up) but everything I've heard about Chamonix puts me off
stopping there. I suppose I could stay elsewhere and just drive over,
but then organising a guide would be a problem.

--

-Pip

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On Sat, 09 Apr 2016 18:56:26 +0200, Pipl <pluscher@live.co.uk> wrote:

This is one thing I really want to do (the Vallee Blanche, not holding
people up) but everything I've heard about Chamonix puts me off
stopping there. I suppose I could stay elsewhere and just drive over,
but then organising a guide would be a problem.

Telephone the Bureau des Guides in Cham. They should be able to
advise, and I imagine one might just be able to join a general group.
I would think it's perfectly do-able as a day trip from somewhere else
in the area.

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Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote in news:pm1igbt5cs1p7ud145inn8hdskn06pljf6@ 4ax.com:

At its apogee on the arrette from Aiguille de Midi to the starting
point of the Vallee Blanche

Take snow crampons for your ski boots for this descent. It's snow and
steep so a hard boot like an Alpine boot or a ski boot is best.

This is nonsense - I've walked down there loads of times in snowboard
boots, and it's just like walking down your own stairs in slippers.
I've remotely understood why skiers make such a meal of it, but I
think it's mostly down to inexperience rather than any inherent
problem with ski boots. I know Ace of this parish would walk down
there at least as quickly as i do.

I have, and would in the future, take crampons. The cut path on the
Chamonix side doesn't require them, but you can avoid the crowds by walking down the crest of the ridge as one does in summer. It's a good idea to have crampons for this as the snow can be wind-blown and hard.

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Jeremy
K1300GT

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