I've only been a diver since 1972, so my experience isn't exhaustive, but in countless dives, rescues and recoveries, I have NEVER seen a diver in distress place a mask upon their forehead. It just does not happen in the real world! Stop foisting thiserror upon the diving public! Placing a mask upon the forehead is most often the sign that a diver is tired of having a mask pressing on their face and nose and they find that placing it on their forehead is more comfortable.
On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 09:48:22 -0700 (PDT), canonphotographer@gmail.com
wrote:
I've only been a diver since 1972, so my experience isn't exhaustive, but
in countless dives, rescues and recoveries, I have NEVER seen a diver in distress place a mask upon their forehead. It just does not happen in the real world! Stop foisting this error upon the diving public! Placing a mask upon the forehead is most often the sign that a diver is tired of having a mask pressing on their face and nose and they find that placing it on their forehead is more comfortable.
Four words: Lloyd Bridges; Sea Hunt
He wore his mask on his forehead more times than I can count and he
never seemed to be in distress. :)
After long inactivity on <rec.scuba>, a thread emerges:
On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 6:02:39 PM UTC-4, Geoff wrote:
On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 09:48:22 -0700 (PDT), canonphotographer@gmail.com
wrote:
I've only been a diver since 1972, so my experience isn't exhaustive, but >> > in countless dives, rescues and recoveries, I have NEVER seen a diver in >> > distress place a mask upon their forehead. It just does not happen in the >> > real world! Stop foisting this error upon the diving public! Placing a mask
upon the forehead is most often the sign that a diver is tired of having a >> > mask pressing on their face and nose and they find that placing it on their
forehead is more comfortable.
Four words: Lloyd Bridges; Sea Hunt
He wore his mask on his forehead more times than I can count and he
never seemed to be in distress. :)
There's a lot of stuff that "Hollywood" does which doesn't really reflect >reality - - case in point, just how often a car chase happens - - and how >frequently, the bad guy in said chase has his car launched up into the air, >usually with a big old "Cremora Bomb" fireball.
In any case, the Rescue training isn't that a forehead mask is a sign of >distress, but a sign of stress - - so its an indicator to watch for the potential
escalation to distress.
And while it may be a fairly trivial / silly element of dive training where >students were taught to not do this (and DMs to then use this cue), the >history is that this is what has been taught for 30+ years so in this regards, >seeing someone who is behaving in a non-standard method may not be a
bad idea.
In the end, the primary motivation for not putting mask on forehead is that >it does make it easier for the mask to get dropped & lost in the depths, >which really has very little to do with diver safety. In this regards, using a
'stress/distress' as the only rationale is a bit of a disservice for students. >IMO, just tell them that its to save them the hassles (& costs) of a lost mask,
plus that its been found to be a decent indicator of induced stress resulting >in a break in training procedures.
-hh
Four words: Lloyd Bridges; Sea Hunt
He wore his mask on his forehead more times than I can count and he
never seemed to be in distress. :)
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