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    The family of an 8-year-old with an appetite for camping, hiking
    and barbecues says he was kicked out of a New Jersey Cub Scout
    pack because he was born a girl.

    When Joe Maldonado joined Pack 87 in Secaucus in late September
    — his transgender identity no secret — the cherubic child was
    ecstatic to learn about nature and wildlife, his mother Kristie
    Maldonado told the Daily News Wednesday.

    But a month later, Joe’s dreams of catching frogs and learning
    sailor’s knots were dashed when Maldonado received a phone call
    from a scouting official who said her son was no longer welcome
    since "only boys are allowed."

    "I said, 'my child is a boy — that's his identity,'" Maldonado
    recalled. "But he seemed like he didn't want to hear it. He
    seemed very arrogant and cocky. It seemed like it was a joke to
    him."

    Joe was born as Jodi, but has identified as male for as long as
    he can remember, according to Maldonado. He legally changed his
    name two years ago.

    Maldonado allowed her son to cut his hair short and come out as
    a boy before he began the second grade. She said Joe is accepted
    as a boy at school and that it was complaints from parents — not
    Joe’s fellow Scouts — that led to his ouster.

    "He was enjoying himself so much in the scouts," Maldonado told
    The News. "So when I receive a phone call from head council,
    pretty much saying that he's no longer allowed because of some
    of the parents, I was so angry."

    The local scouting organization could not be reached for comment
    Wednesday.

    Maldonado said pursuing legal action against the local group is
    not off the table.

    "I'm at least looking for an apology or something where we can
    look into it and try and change the policy and try to make
    things right," the mother said.

    Maldonado’s case is believed to be the first involving a child
    prohibited from participating in scouting activities because of
    gender identity.

    The Boy Scouts of America — which endured years of controversy
    before ultimately lifting bans on gay scouts and leaders in
    recent years — considers transgender children a separate issue,
    spokeswoman Effie Delimarkos said in a statement.

    “No youth may be removed from any of our programs on the basis
    of his or her sexual orientation,” she said, adding, “Gender
    identity isn’t related to sexual orientation.”

    The statement went on to say that Cub Scout programs are for
    children identified as boys on their birth certificates.

    The Boy Scouts earlier this year announced that it would admit
    transgender children to their coeducational programs, but not
    for gender-specific programs such as the Cub Scouts.

    The national Girl Scouts organization, which is not affiliated
    with the Boy Scouts, has accepted transgender members for years.

    The Boy Scouts of America is not known to have rejected any
    Scouts over gender identity aside from Joe, said Justin Wilson,
    the executive director of Scouts for Equality.

    Wilson said he knows of at least two transgender boys who are
    Cub Scouts, one in a southern state that he did not name and the
    other in New York. He does not know of any instances where
    Scouts asked for a birth certificate as a condition of
    membership.

    With News Wire Services.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/8-year-old-transgender- boy-asked-leave-n-cub-scout-pack-article-1.2926702
     

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    The family of an 8-year-old with an appetite for camping, hiking
    and barbecues says he was kicked out of a New Jersey Cub Scout
    pack because he was born a girl.

    When Joe Maldonado joined Pack 87 in Secaucus in late September
    — his transgender identity no secret — the cherubic child was
    ecstatic to learn about nature and wildlife, his mother Kristie
    Maldonado told the Daily News Wednesday.

    But a month later, Joe’s dreams of catching frogs and learning
    sailor’s knots were dashed when Maldonado received a phone call
    from a scouting official who said her son was no longer welcome
    since "only boys are allowed."

    "I said, 'my child is a boy — that's his identity,'" Maldonado
    recalled. "But he seemed like he didn't want to hear it. He
    seemed very arrogant and cocky. It seemed like it was a joke to
    him."

    No it was not a joke you are stupid Bitch.
    No he did not want to here you you are stupid bitch does not care about
    others but your self send her to girl scout and not to boy scouts.
    Mothers and fathers of other kids should get tighter and stone you to death Bitch.

    Joe was born as Jodi, but has identified as male for as long as
    he can remember, according to Maldonado. He legally changed his
    name two years ago.

    Maldonado allowed her son to cut his hair short and come out as
    a boy before he began the second grade. She said Joe is accepted
    as a boy at school and that it was complaints from parents — not
    Joe’s fellow Scouts — that led to his ouster.

    "He was enjoying himself so much in the scouts," Maldonado told
    The News. "So when I receive a phone call from head council,
    pretty much saying that he's no longer allowed because of some
    of the parents, I was so angry."

    The local scouting organization could not be reached for comment
    Wednesday.

    Maldonado said pursuing legal action against the local group is
    not off the table.

    "I'm at least looking for an apology or something where we can
    look into it and try and change the policy and try to make
    things right," the mother said.

    Maldonado’s case is believed to be the first involving a child
    prohibited from participating in scouting activities because of
    gender identity.

    The Boy Scouts of America — which endured years of controversy
    before ultimately lifting bans on gay scouts and leaders in
    recent years — considers transgender children a separate issue,
    spokeswoman Effie Delimarkos said in a statement.

    “No youth may be removed from any of our programs on the basis
    of his or her sexual orientation,” she said, adding, “Gender
    identity isn’t related to sexual orientation.”

    The statement went on to say that Cub Scout programs are for
    children identified as boys on their birth certificates.

    The Boy Scouts earlier this year announced that it would admit
    transgender children to their coeducational programs, but not
    for gender-specific programs such as the Cub Scouts.

    The national Girl Scouts organization, which is not affiliated
    with the Boy Scouts, has accepted transgender members for years.

    The Boy Scouts of America is not known to have rejected any
    Scouts over gender identity aside from Joe, said Justin Wilson,
    the executive director of Scouts for Equality.

    Wilson said he knows of at least two transgender boys who are
    Cub Scouts, one in a southern state that he did not name and the
    other in New York. He does not know of any instances where
    Scouts asked for a birth certificate as a condition of
    membership.

    With News Wire Services.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/8-year-old-transgender- boy-asked-leave-n-cub-scout-pack-article-1.2926702

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    <DIV>The family of an 8-year-old with an appetite for camping, hiking </DIV> <DIV>and barbecues says he was kicked out of a New Jersey Cub Scout </DIV> <DIV>pack because he was born a girl.</DIV>
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    <DIV>When Joe Maldonado joined Pack 87 in Secaucus in late September </DIV> <DIV>— his transgender identity no secret — the cherubic child was </DIV> <DIV>ecstatic to learn about nature and wildlife, his mother Kristie </DIV> <DIV>Maldonado told the Daily News Wednesday.</DIV>
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    <DIV>But a month later, Joe’s dreams of catching frogs and learning </DIV> <DIV>sailor’s knots were dashed when Maldonado received a phone call </DIV> <DIV>from a scouting official who said her son was no longer welcome </DIV> <DIV>since "only boys are allowed."</DIV>
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    <DIV>"I said, 'my child is a boy — that's his identity,'" Maldonado </DIV> <DIV>recalled. "But he seemed like he didn't want to hear it. He </DIV> <DIV>seemed very arrogant and cocky. It seemed like it was a joke to </DIV> <DIV>him."</DIV>
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    <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=4>No it was not a joke you are stupid Bitch. </FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=4>No he did not want to here you you are stupid bitch does not care about </FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=4>others but your self&nbsp; send her to girl scout
    and not to boy scouts.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=4>Mothers and fathers of other kids should get tighter and stone you to death Bitch.</FONT></EM></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT size=4></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Joe was born as Jodi, but has identified as male for as long as </DIV> <DIV>he can remember, according to Maldonado. He legally changed his </DIV> <DIV>name two years ago.</DIV>
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    <DIV>Maldonado allowed her son to cut his hair short and come out as </DIV> <DIV>a boy before he began the second grade. She said Joe is accepted </DIV> <DIV>as a boy at school and that it was complaints from parents — not </DIV> <DIV>Joe’s fellow Scouts — that led to his ouster.</DIV>
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    <DIV>"He was enjoying himself so much in the scouts," Maldonado told </DIV> <DIV>The News. "So when I receive a phone call from head council, </DIV> <DIV>pretty much saying that he's no longer allowed because of some </DIV> <DIV>of the parents, I was so angry."</DIV>
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    <DIV>The local scouting organization could not be reached for comment </DIV> <DIV>Wednesday.</DIV>
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    <DIV>Maldonado said pursuing legal action against the local group is </DIV> <DIV>not off the table.</DIV>
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    <DIV>"I'm at least looking for an apology or something where we can </DIV> <DIV>look into it and try and change the policy and try to make </DIV> <DIV>things right," the mother said.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Maldonado’s case is believed to be the first involving a child </DIV> <DIV>prohibited from participating in scouting activities because of </DIV> <DIV>gender identity.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>The Boy Scouts of America — which endured years of controversy </DIV> <DIV>before ultimately lifting bans on gay scouts and leaders in </DIV> <DIV>recent years — considers transgender children a separate issue, </DIV> <DIV>spokeswoman Effie Delimarkos said in a statement.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>“No youth may be removed from any of our programs on the basis </DIV> <DIV>of his or her sexual orientation,” she said, adding, “Gender </DIV> <DIV>identity isn’t related to sexual orientation.”</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>The statement went on to say that Cub Scout programs are for </DIV> <DIV>children identified as boys on their birth certificates.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>The Boy Scouts earlier this year announced that it would admit </DIV> <DIV>transgender children to their coeducational programs, but not </DIV> <DIV>for gender-specific programs such as the Cub Scouts.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>The national Girl Scouts organization, which is not affiliated </DIV> <DIV>with the Boy Scouts, has accepted transgender members for years.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>The Boy Scouts of America is not known to have rejected any </DIV> <DIV>Scouts over gender identity aside from Joe, said Justin Wilson, </DIV> <DIV>the executive director of Scouts for Equality.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Wilson said he knows of at least two transgender boys who are </DIV> <DIV>Cub Scouts, one in a southern state that he did not name and the </DIV> <DIV>other in New York. He does not know of any instances where </DIV> <DIV>Scouts asked for a birth certificate as a condition of </DIV> <DIV>membership.</DIV>
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    <DIV>With News Wire Services.</DIV>
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