• Homosexual Journalist Admits: 'Gay Lifestyle is a Sewer'

    From Gay Lies Matter...@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 9 07:33:34 2017
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    Homosexual Journalist

    Admits: ‘Gay Lifestyle is a Sewer’

    Battle Cry, Jack Chick Publications Nov. / Dec. 2008

    “Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the
    truth?” (Gal. 4:18).

    THE PRO-SODOMITE media would have us believe that all
    homosexuals are in a wonderful, long-term,committed relationship
    with only one other person. They are portrayed as just another
    kind of “family,” perfectlycapable of raising children and
    making a valuable contribution to society.

    But British broadcast journalist Simon Fanschawe disagrees.
    Himself a homosexual, he produced adocumentary for the BBC
    called “The Trouble With Gay Men.” After reviewing some graphic
    stories of groupsexual encounters in a bath house, he asks: “Are
    we just swimming around in a sewer which we are sort of sayingis
    normal?” His conclusion: “.. .the gay lifestyle is incompatible
    with happiness and fidelity in human relations.”

    This is because that “promiscuity has become the norm….” If
    promiscuity is the norm, why do we only hearof the “committed
    relationships” that “deserve” to be recognized with formal and
    legal “marriage?” It is becausethe sodomite lobby has gained
    control of Hollywood, and the news media, and we are denied the
    truth. Studieshave shown that even the small number of
    homosexuals who claim to be in a “committed relationship” have
    theirown definition of monogamy.

    Homosexual researchers Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen found
    that “the cheating ratio of ‘married’ gaymales, given enough
    time, approaches 100%.,..Many gay lovers, bowing to the
    inevitable, agree to an ‘openrelationship,’ for which there are
    as many sets of ground rules as there are couples.”

    In fact, another study concluded that 43 percent of male
    homosexuals have more than 500 partners in theirlifetime. A
    smaller percentage had over 1000. Thus, the wonderful same-sex
    “family” image we are fed is largelya myth.

    Average life span only 40 years!

    FANSHAWE’S FILM included statistics showing the deadly results
    of the homosexual lifestyle.

    In London alone, one of nine homosexual men were HIV positive,
    and new cases had doubled in the last fiveyears. In the same
    period, syphilis had increased 616 percent.

    Other studies found that the average life span of male
    homosexuals is about 40 years, with only 2 percentliving to age
    65.

    One reason God calls homosexuality an abomination is the
    promiscuity aspect. This has been proven in thepattern of the
    spread of AIDS. When the disease first showed up in the
    homosexual community, the fear was thatit would become a world-
    wide pandemic in the heterosexual community. 25 years later, the
    World HealthOrganization (WHO) has declared that “there will be
    no generalized epidemic of AIDS in the heterosexualpopulation
    outside Africa.”

    So, what is so special about Africa? First, they have 33 million
    infected with HIV, and second: promiscuity isat the root of it.
    Some witch doctors even teach that the cure for AIDS is to have
    sex with as many women aspossible. Scientists working there are
    beginning to admit that pushing condoms is not working and they
    need tochange their strategy. It is interesting that the two
    things they find that work are both biblical: male
    circumcisionand monogamy.

    What can we do as soul winners? We need to get out the rest of
    the facts. The “normal” homosexual is notin a committed,
    monogamous relationship as Hollywood and the TV sitcoms would
    have us believe…

    People who do not know the Bible are being brainwashed by the
    media lies!

    Even one of their own recognizes that it (homosexuality) is a
    “sewer” of a lifestyle.

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  • From dolf@21:1/5 to Gay Lies Matter... on Thu Feb 9 17:49:48 2017
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    -- WHY BIG THINK'S OPINION ON TEACHING CREATIONISM ALONGSIDE ACTUAL
    SCIENCE IS ABSURD

    (c) 2016 Dolf Leendert Boek, Revision: 9 February, 2017

    - http://www.grapple369.com?date:2017.2.8

    Once again BIG THINK are publishing false and misleading news which is
    claimed to be informed opinion as fact, but it is no longer relevant as
    it is some twelve months old (28 March 2016) as worthless and vain opinions.

    I don't know who is more dishonest and contemptible. Whether it ought
    to be this theoretical physicist Lawrence Krauss or BigThink.com's
    fictional story writer Brandon Weber as the fodder for this fire in the
    belly of others as then the cause for endless hate-speech.

    The souls of 60 million people (from World War II) lays in one end of
    the scales and your worthless wicked hearts within the other.

    I have copied all the necessary statements with the prospect of a
    consideration made of legal recourse in the future at the time of my
    choosing.

    I demand an apology from both of you as Godless f@cks...

    22/7 as 3W1D ...

    THE MAJOR PREMISE {YANG/FATHER/HEAVEN/MALE/FORM - Formula of Universal
    Law}, which contains the law of that will: 7 x 24 *courses* *of*
    *priests* x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle = 6D or 6 x 364 associated
    to the 'constant sequence of sun and moon' as 354 x 3 + 30 day
    intercalation = 1092 days x 2 = 2184 days

    "And God spake all these words, saying, 'I am the LORD thy God, which
    have brought thee out of the land of Egypt {that troubles or oppresses; anguish}, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods
    before me..." [Exodus 20:1-3 (KJV)]

    And whereas We did on the 17th day of September, 1900, by and with the
    advice of Our Privy Council declare by proclamation that, on and after
    the 1st day of January, 1901, the people of New South Wales, Victoria,
    South Australia, Queensland, and Tasmania and also Western Australia,
    should be united in a Federal Commonwealth of Australia: And whereas by
    the said recited Act certain *POWERS*, *FUNCTIONS*, *and* *AUTHORITIES*
    *were* *declared* to be vested in the Governor General: And whereas We
    are *desirous* *of* *making* *effectual* *and* *permanent* *provision*
    for the office of Governor General and Commander in chief in and over
    Our said Commonwealth of Australia, without making new Letters Patent on
    each demise of the said office. *Now* *know* *ye* *that* *We* *have*
    *thought* *fit* *to* *constitute*, *ORDER*, *and* *DECLARE*, *and* *do*
    *by* *these* *PRESENTS* *CONSTITUTE* *ORDER*, *and* *DECLARE*, that
    there shall be a Governor General and *Commander* *in* *Chief*
    (hereinafter called the Governor General) in and over Our Commonwealth
    of Australia (hereinafter called Our said Commonwealth), and that the
    person who shall fill the said office of *Governor* *General* *shall*
    *be* *FROM* *TIME* *TO* *TIME* *APPOINTED* by Commission under Our Sign
    Manual and Signet.

    It was said that the white tiger (western mansions) would only appear
    when the emperor ruled with absolute virtue, or if there was peace
    throughout the world)

    - SUPREME PALACE ENCLOSURE (å¤Ŗå¾®å˛£) / DUAD - #13 - *NATURE* *CONTAINS* *NATURE*: {MEM / *MOTHER* - *THE* *TONGUE* *OF* *DECREE* *DECIDING*
    *BETWEEN* *THEM*: 10 paragraphs of the Letters Patent of the Australian Constitution 1 January 1901}

    THE MINOR PREMISE {YIN/MOTHER/EARTH/FEMALE/MATTER - Formula of
    Humanity}, which contains the command to behave in accordance with the
    law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the law: x 49 = 6J or
    294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox Wednesday 20
    March 1996 / 21 March = 1 Nisan 5756;

    AS BEING A LOGICAL GROUNDING OF INFINITY;

    "... Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the
    LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon
    the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
    And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments..." [Exodus 20:5-6 (KJV)]

    I - And *we* *do* *hereby* *authorize* *and* *command* *Our* *said*
    *Governor* *General* *to* *do* *and* *execute*, *in* *due* *manner*,
    *all* *things* *that* *shall* *belong* *to* *his* *said* *command*,
    *and* *to* *the* *trust* *We* *have* *reposed* *in* *him*, *according*
    *to* *the* *several* *POWER* and *AUTHORITIES* *granted* *or*
    *APPOINTED* *him* *by* *VIRTUE* of 'The Commonwealth of Australia
    Constitution Act, 1900', *and* *of* *these* *present* *Letters* *Patent*
    and of such Commission as may be issued to him under Our Sign Manual and Signet, or by Order in Our Privy Council, or by Us through one of Our
    Principal Secretaries of State, and to such laws as shall hereafter be
    in *FORCE* in Our said Commonwealth.

    - HEAVENLY MARKET ENCLOSURE (天åø‚å˛£) / TRIAD - #21 - *AUTONOMOUS* *NATURE*: {SHIN / *MOTHER* - *SCALES* *OF* *LIABILITY*: bequeathed in perpetuity
    to its sovereign descendants)

    THE CONCLUSION {ZHUN/SON/SEA/ENUMERATE/OFFSPRING - Formula of Autonomy},
    which contains the verdict (sentence), what is laid down as right in the
    case at hand: ... 6,000 as 122J3W1D + 9(9Ā²+1)/2 as #369 with Septet #41 centric on 13-17 September 2001 / 18 September = 1 Tishri 5762.

    AS BEING A SUBJECTIVE GROUNDING OF INFINITY AS ETERNITY.

    "...Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the
    LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.'" [Exodus
    20:7 (KJV)]

    4. FORMULA OF UNIVERSAL LAW AS SOVEREIGNTY / *REMEMBER* *THE* *SABBATH*
    {3W1D}

    5. (MOTHER) FORMULA OF HUMANITY AS HEAD OF STATE / *HONOUR* *PARENTS*

    6. FORMULA OF AUTONOMY AS INDIVIDUAL / *DO* *NOT* *KILL*

    7. FORMULA OF PROGRESSION / *AVOID* *SPIRITUAL* *ADULTERY* *AS*
    *HETERONOMY* *AGAINST* *AUTONOMY* {CIRCA 49J7W} [John 5:43-47]

    8. DISCRIMINATING NORM (HUMAN NATURE) AS OBJECTIVE GROUNDING OF INFINITY
    / *DO* *NOT* *STEAL* {72J + 3(3Ā²+1)/2}

    9. BINDING NORM (NORMA OBLIGANS - MARRIAGE?) AS FAUX SUBJECTIVE
    GROUNDING OF INFINITY / *DO* *NOT* *BEAR* *FALSE* *WITNESS*

    10. MANIFESTING NORM (NORMA DENUNTIANS) AS REAL SUBJECTIVE GROUNDING OF INFINITY / *DO* *NOT* *COVET* {122J3W1D + 9(9Ā²+1)/2}

    *HEBREW* *GENEALOGY* *AS* *ASSOCIATED* *LINGUISTIC* *META*-*DESCRIPTOR* *PROTOTYPES* *TO *THE* *CHRONOLOGICAL* / *MATHEMATICAL* *VIEW* *OF*
    *NATURAL* / *COMMON* *AND* *UNIVERSAL* *LAW* *AS* *CORRESPONDING*
    *SYLLOGISTIC* *MICROCOSM*

    The Book of Jubilees was found amongst the Dead Sea Scrolls and was
    otherwise translated in 1917 by R. H. Charles and published on behalf of
    the Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge within London. It
    suggests that the giving of the Law at Sinai was a milestone and clearly dependent upon the earlier religious aspirations as conveyed by the Book
    of Enoch, as being related to nomenclature and the representation of
    structured time by cosmological principles as understood within nature
    and were articulated by meta-descriptor prototypes for all occurrence of
    time: "And the angel of the presence, who went before the camp of Israel [Exodus 14:19], took the TABLETS OF THE DIVISION OF YEARS FROM THE TIME
    OF CREATION OF THE LAW AND TESTIMONY ACCORDING TO THEIR WEEKS (OF
    YEARS), ACCORDING TO THE JUBILEES, year by year throughout the full
    number of Jubilees, from the DAY OF CREATION UNTIL THE DAY OF THE NEW
    CREATION WHEN THE HEAVEN AND EARTH AND ALL OF THEIR CREATURES SHALL BE
    RENEWED ACCORDING TO THE POWERS OF HEAVEN AND ACCORDING TO THE WHOLE
    NATURE OF EARTH, until the sanctuary of the LORD is created in Jerusalem
    upon Mount Zion.

    And all of the lights will be renewed for healing and peace and
    *BLESSING* for all of the elect of Israel and in order that it might be
    thus from that day and unto all the days of the earth." [Book of
    Jubilees 1:29]

    It is also possible to divide the number of days in 400 years in the
    Gregorian calendar reforms as 146,097 days by 7 and that when made
    divisible by 22 to obtain the remainder, and to arrange the Hebrew
    letters in a pattern which has a remainder of #13 as being in the middle
    of the Chinese 4 BCE published DAO TE CHING / I CHING division of the
    year into 364.5 days and the Jewish Kabbalah equivalent which deployed a
    magic square of #369 having a distinct mathematical property at centre
    of #41 for the equivalent date of 13 September.

    #0 MOD 22 = 22 [#TAU / #400 - Jacob {He takes by the heel, he supplants,
    That supplants, undermines; the heel}] as 4000 BCE
    #400 MOD 22 = 17 [#PE / #80 - Serug {Branch, Layer; twining}]
    #800 MOD 22 = 12 [#LAMED / #30 - Arphaxad {I shall fail as the breast:
    he cursed the breast-bottle, A healer; a releaser}]
    #1200 MOD 22 = 7 [#ZAYIN / #7 - Enoch {Initiated. Figuratively to
    initiate or discipline; dedicate, train up}]
    #1600 MOD 22 = 2 [#BETH / #2 - Seth {Substituted, Compensated; That God
    has heard my prayer and has delivered me out of affliction. Power &
    Strength; put; who puts; fixed}]
    #2000 MOD 22 = 19 [#QOPH / #100 - Terah {Station, delay, a station of
    Israel in the wilderness, To breathe; scent; blow}]
    #2400 MOD 22 = 14 [#NUN / #50 - Heber {The region beyond, One that
    passes; anger}]

    #2800 MOD 22 = 9 [#TETH / #9 - Lamech {Powerful, Poor; made low}]
    #3200 MOD 22 = 4 [#DALETH / #4 - Kenan {Fixed, (nestlings; figuratively
    a chamber or dwelling:-nest, room), buyer; owner}]
    #3600 MOD 22 = 21 [#SHIN / #300 - Isaac {He laughs}]
    #4000 MOD 22 = 16 [#AYIN / #70 - Reu {Friend, His friend; his shepherd}

    As 'eye', 'to see', and by extension, to understand and obey, it
    represents the primeval light, that is the spiritual light of God
    [Genesis 1:3] as distinct to the celestial lights [Genesis 1:14-18]] =
    #0 CE as BINDING NORM (NORMA OBLIGANS - MARRIAGE?), AS FAUX SUBJECTIVE GROUNDING OF INFINITY / *DO* *NOT* *BEAR* *FALSE* *WITNESS* *BY*
    PYTHAGOREAN [BABYLONIAN] HETEROS (MALE/FEMALE MARRIAGE -- WHAT IS SIN & WICKEDNESS?) being a binary (ie. gender and spermatic as bifurcated
    entities) unnatural autonomic transformative prototype imposed upon the biological natural order and commences the symbolic associator series as
    the MACROCOSM:

    Thus in the Pythagorean HETEROS THEORY OF NUMBER, the sacred notion of
    marriage according to the religious mysteries of Roman State Religion
    and Empire Governance is as a hieros gamos or heirogamy ('holy
    marriage') in being the natural and common law entitlement to invoke a coacervation of the feminine and the masculine within a sexual ritual
    that plays out a marriage as between a god and a goddess, especially
    when enacted in a symbolic ritual where human participants represent by
    the planetary deities:

    #260 - Raven (Corax): Mercury,
    #175 - Bridegroom (Nymphus): Venus,
    #65 - Soldier (Miles): Mars,
    #34 - Lion (Leo): Jupiter,
    #369 - Persian (Perses): Lunar,
    #111 - Runner of the Sun (Heliodromus): Sol Invictus, and
    #15 - Father (Pater): Saturn.

    CAESAR AUGUSTUS (27 BCE - #14 CE - prohibited soldiers from marrying, a
    ban that remained in force for the Imperial army for nearly two centuries)

    The conquest mentality and "cult of virility" shaped same-sex relations.
    Roman men were free to enjoy sex with other males without a perceived
    loss of masculinity or social status, as long as they took the dominant
    or penetrative role. Acceptable male partners were slaves, prostitutes,
    and entertainers, whose lifestyle placed them in the nebulous social
    realm of infamia (in-, "not," and fama, "reputation") was a loss of
    legal or social standing and was an official exclusion from the legal protections enjoyed by a Roman citizen (ie. you couldn't get your
    eucharist bread from the State), as imposed by a censor or praetor,
    excluded from the normal protections accorded a citizen even if they
    were technically free. Although Roman men in general seem to have
    preferred youths between the ages of 12 and 20 as sexual partners,
    freeborn male minors were strictly off limits, and professional
    prostitutes and entertainers might be considerably older.

    The infamia of entertainers did not exclude them from socializing among
    the Roman elite, and entertainers who were "stars", both men and women, sometimes became the lovers of such high-profile figures as the dictator
    Sulla and Mark Antony.

    #0 CE ... @1 - AUGUSTUS was worshipped as the Son of God (27 BCE - #14
    CE) ... #15CE (9) ... @2 - TIBERIUS (#14 ā€“ #37 CE) ... #34CE (16) ... @3
    - CALIGULA (#37 - #41 CE) ... @4 - CLAUDIUS (#41 - #54 CE) ... #65CE
    (25) - @5 - NERO (#666: #54 - #68 CE) ... #111 CE (36) ... #175 CE (49)
    ... #260 CE (64 as I CHING META-DESCRIPTOR PROTOTYPES), #369 CE (81 as
    DAO TE CHING META-DESCRIPTOR PROTOTYPES) ... #1933 - 1945CE < --- German Fascism's Golden Age ... #2000CE < --- Jubilee 2000 as Holy Catholic
    'Satanic' Tradition et al being a faux-sophistic wisdom ... #2056 as
    proposed Islamic Golden Age

    DUKE (FASCIST CATHOLIC) EARL WEBER: "On Preacher: How can we discern
    false teachers?

    MASS: Do this in memory of me.

    SACRAMENTS: Holy Eucharist.

    [Matthew 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-26, Luke 22:14-20, 1Corinthians 11:23-25
    (11-34)]

    Pagans don't listen to God."

    DOLF: "More Roman Catholic lies in leading the worship.

    You are so deceived:

    - Julius Caesar was the sovereign pontiff
    - Augustus Caesar was the son of God (hence august).

    They both worshipped Satan... So what of the Pontiff in his Sovereign city-state and your eucharist?"

    CATHOLIC SERVANT (COPY CAT TALK) PROPAGANDA: "Because the communion 'for eternal life' is followed close on by the witness rejection because of
    the 'to them' [it's] clear [what is the] meaning of His "flesh/blood". I
    go with the onsite witness for [t]his meaning.

    The only possible plain reading has His statement above of "flesh/blood"
    and eternal life followed close on with the witnesses saying they wanted
    no part of it."

    RICHARD HEATHFIELD (RJH@CPAX.ORG.UK): "No, that isn't the only possible
    plain reading. In fact, I don't see how you get that reading *at all*.
    BUT I recognise that /you do/.

    It seems to me that the way we interpret the text is bound to be
    coloured by our upbringing, background, and experience. I would imagine
    that the concept of transubstantiation is so ingrained in your
    experience that you find it impossible to read the text any other way.
    And to me, the concept is so utterly alien that I'm obviously going to
    struggle to see Jesus's words as anything other than a word picture.

    Now, we can't both be right. And it's obvious to you that you're right,
    and it's obvious to me that I'm right... and we know where that leads.
    So the only intelligent course is for each of us to accept that the
    other one is being neither insincere nor obtuse - we genuinely have
    different views that we're not going to reconcile by argument."

    CHUCK SCHUMER (SCHUMER-THE-LITTLE-BOY-F@CKER@DNC.ORG): "Want some
    pictures of me sucking off little boys?"

    DOLF: "Why would [such muckrake {ie. to search for and expose real or
    alleged corruption, scandal, or the like, especially in politics;
    Courtesy: Word of the Day for 9 February, 2017; www.dictionary.com}]
    interest me of all people?

    We've had such sad news today in that media reported up to 20% of
    priests associated with Roman Catholic religious orders have been
    historically involved within a criminal activity as the debauched life
    of pedophilia [*and* *against* *their* *august* *vow* *of* *celibacy*].

    So what of the Pontiff in his Sovereign city-state and your eucharist as
    soggy biscuit (ie. suck on that you little f@ck) is only then a Satanic
    ritual and for which you'll keep your matrimonial oath as bestowal of
    [an unmerited] soul to that wretched creature."

    RICHARD HEATHFIELD (RJH@CPAX.ORG.UK): "Accusations aren't proof. Whilst
    abuse is an extraordinarily serious problem, it is also true that people
    must be presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. It is undoubtedly true that such abuse takes place, but it is also undoubtedly
    true that some abuse allegations are fraudulent or erroneous ("false
    memory"). The conviction statistics would give a much more accurate
    picture of the real scale of the problem.

    Perhaps it would be worth finding out what the /Australian/ press has to
    say about events in Australia. The best data I have (which is for 2005) reports that there are just over 3,000 Catholic priests in Australia."

    DOLF: "You apologist dog: 'accusations aren't proof'

    That 3 word statement makes you as guilty as the perpetrators [over]
    which facts of accusations were reported by the Royal Commission [as you
    know by such referenced inclusion within the message to which you have
    replied] into such crimes against the humanity and dignity of the
    persons [as minors who ought to be protected by the law].

    Now you either retract your statement as being most improper to have
    concluded and publicly made or you cease posting because you are such an offence to the sensibilities of all that is reasonable.

    Pope Francis' recent statement about Catholics making an apology to the
    GLBTI Community is the second time he has done so in being equally
    impudent and impotent in perversity as is your statement.

    I want to see a monetary compensation made to those persons against whom
    *the* *treasonable* *crimes* *was* *committed* *on* *the* *dates* *of*
    31 May, 1998 and 21 June, 2000 *by* *refusal* *of* *communion* before
    [*any* *other* *GLBTI* *Community* *member* *proffers* *a* *vain*
    *opinion* *of* *value* *as* *whores* *of* *injustice* *and* *with* *no* *restraint* *as* *impropriety* *and* *who* *can* *all* *wait* *in-line*
    *and* *beg* *for* *their* *turn* *at* *taking* *the* *biscuit*
    {[informal]: be the most remarkable or foolish of its kind}] and then I
    will believe such otherwise dishonest Popery."

    RICHARD HEATHFIELD (RJH@CPAX.ORG.UK): "Nonsense! Do you truly think
    that accusations constitute proof of guilt? If that were true, why
    bother with courts and judges and stuff?

    People who have been *convicted* of a crime should be punished for it.
    To convict someone of a crime takes more than a mere accusation. It
    requires proof beyond all reasonable doubt. And that means reasonable
    doubt in the minds of the jury who have heard all the evidence for and
    against the allegation.

    I repeat: accusations aren't proof.

    Imagine what the world would be like if accusations /were/ proof. If you
    bore a grudge against someone, you could accuse them of a serious crime
    and they would immediately be arrested and imprisoned. Or /you/ could be accused (without foundation, of course), and then /you'd/ be in jail. It
    makes no sense at all.

    Do not allow the gravity of the crime to blind you to the importance of
    due process of law.

    I received an email (I won't name names) telling me that, by saying that accusations aren't proof, I was as guilty as the perpetrators! This
    shows a complete ignorance of due process of law.

    If the police think that there are reasonable grounds for believing that
    there is a case to answer, they will arrest the suspect. Transferring
    the suspect elsewhere will therefore not be possible.

    In civilised countries such as the UK, there is no statute of
    limitations on child abuse, as recent cases have demonstrated."

    DOLF: "That was my statement and since the accusations of such perverse
    crimes as theirs and of yours were made by a Royal Commission it is you
    that are continuing to "show a complete ignorance of the due process of
    law" and of the sovereignty of the Crown above that of the Roman
    Catholic Church."

    RICHARD HEATHFIELD (RJH@CPAX.ORG.UK): "On the contrary, I have made it
    very clear that the Crown has sovereignty over the Roman Catholic
    Church, by pointing out that the Church does not have the power to
    prevent the police from arresting suspects."

    DOLF: "Now you either fully retract your statements as being most
    improper and a perverse rationale given in support of such offence and disrespect of the "due process of law" which is the soul and character
    of the [obstructionist] Roman Catholic Church and the Popes who have
    sought at every turn to frustrate justice."

    RICHARD HEATHFIELD (RJH@CPAX.ORG.UK): "I am most certainly NOT
    supporting ANY offences at all. On the contrary, I am fully in favour of
    the imprisonment of those who have been found guilty of crimes that
    merit such imprisonment.

    DOLF: "If you attempt to rationalise any further without an
    unconditional apology and withdrawal of such offensive statements of
    yours, [given such clear evidence of the contrary to which you have an obligation to inform yourself: 'Perhaps it would be worth finding out
    what the /Australian/ press has to say about events in Australia'] then
    a complaint will be made to your Internet Service Provider due to you
    engaging in unlawful activity as the advocating of pedophile activity."

    RICHARD HEATHFIELD (RJH@CPAX.ORG.UK): "If you do so, I will provide all relevant information to my Internet Service Provider to demonstrate that
    I have at all times behaved reasonably and rationally, and that your
    complaint is utterly without foundation."

    DOLF: "You have one hour to make such a statement and if it does not
    occur within that time it will be construed as if you have refused to
    make any retraction."

    RICHARD HEATHFIELD (RJH@CPAX.ORG.UK): "You can save yourself the wait. I
    refuse to retract the perfectly sensible (and perfectly legal)
    statements I have made. I don't respond well to threats, especially
    threats that have no justification whatsoever.

    You have made it clear that you haven't thought this through very clearly."

    DOLF: "Have I made myself clear."

    RICHARD HEATHFIELD (RJH@CPAX.ORG.UK): "I've received another email from
    the same person, threatening to complain to my ISP if I don't retract my
    claim that accusations aren't proof.

    I don't retract the claim. Accusations are /not/ proof.

    My correspondent seems to think that, by saying that accusations aren't
    proof, I somehow consider the Roman Catholic Church not to be subject to
    the Crown (I think he's in Australia, and I'm in the UK, so the
    reference to the Crown is understandable here). Of course, I don't think
    any such thing, as I made very clear in an earlier article in this thread.

    Let me say it one more time: accusations are not proof.

    When someone is accused of a crime, they have the right to defend
    themselves against that accusation in a court of law. If the jury
    decides that they are not guilty of that crime, then (in law) they are
    not guilty of that crime. It's as simple as that. The mere act of
    accusing does not mean that the accused is guilty. Nor does it mean that
    the accused is not guilty.

    If a Roman Catholic priest (or anyone else) is charged with child abuse
    and is found guilty by a court of law, then he should be punished
    (preferably to the full extent permissible by law). But if he is either
    not charged at all, or acquitted by the court, then that's the end of
    the matter.

    A statistic that 1 in 14 Catholic priests in Australia have been accused
    of abuse is mere scandal-mongering. A statistic that 1 in 14 Catholic
    priests in Australia have been /convicted/ of abuse would be cause for
    very, very serious concern."

    DOLF: "You are continuing to make irrational extrapolations and
    unreasonable rationalisations against the evidence of factual statements
    made by the "Royal Commission Into Institutional Responses" [to
    instances of complaints made of pedophilia as unlawful conduct] which
    are the accusations of criminal conduct by 7% (but unto 20% within some religious orders) [of the Roman Catholic clergy] that you have sought to
    cast improper aspersions upon. The reason that they could not be
    punished to the full extent permissible by law is because just like you,
    the Roman Catholic Church considers itself above nature, law and order
    as the exercise of fair and equitable justice by any other Sovereign jurisdiction other than itself.

    Despite your denials, you are advocating pedophilia by such wrongful exclusions. And such conduct is unlawful and complaint will now be made
    to your Internet Service Provider."

    RICHARD HEATHFIELD (RJH@CPAX.ORG.UK): "No, I'm not. Dolf Boek has
    completely misconstrued what I've said. As a result, he is wasting your
    time and mine.

    An article was posted in alt.christnet.christianlife that drew attention
    to a newspaper headline claiming that 1 in 14 Australian Roman Catholic
    priests have been accused of child abuse.

    I'm not a Roman Catholic, but in the interests of reasonableness I
    pointed out that a more meaningful statistic would be the rate of
    convictions rather than the rate of accusations.

    At no point was I abusive. At no point did I advocate illegal activity.
    (Quite the reverse!)

    The complaint is an over-reaction. I trust that you will ignore it."

    DOLF: "It is noted that by such attributions of italicised signalling
    within your apologist commentary, that you engage within pedantry as a
    person who is excessively concerned with formalism, accuracy, and
    precision, or one who makes an ostentatious and arrogant show of learning.

    I repeat again, that the accusations are a statement of fact made by the
    Royal Commission and which are supported and sustained by evidence
    presented to such.

    Therefore you ought as concerning your haughty display of a perverse
    pedantic character of a flawed nature, correct your erroneous statements
    which cast such improper aspersions upon 'due process of law' as justice
    so that it is in accord with those made by the Royal Commission as being
    'more meaningful' than your vain opinion."

    CATHOLIC SERVANT (COPY CAT TALK) PROPAGANDA: "Indeed, but not by
    argument, which is why the Christian witness immediately following the
    apostles is so instructive these 2000 years hence.

    Which means rejection of all history on any matter right there as well.
    The christian witness is as commonly accepted by historical scholars as
    for any event/person of the same time period."

    RICHARD HEATHFIELD (RJH@CPAX.ORG.UK): "It's a data point, that's all. It
    tells us what they believed, but that doesn't mean that what they
    believed is /true/. And I certainly don't take it as gospel."

    DOLF: "Cease making such a fraudulent and fascist claim that 2000 years
    is a justification for the Roman Catholic Church continuing existence as
    being substantiated by God.

    *I* *demand* *that* *you* *either* *substantiate* *that* *fraud* *or*
    *retract* *it* *as* *a* *deliberate* *blasphemy* *and* *falsehood*."

    RICHARD HEATHFIELD (RJH@CPAX.ORG.UK): "Sure. And obviously it is
    acknowledged to be a problem, and it is clear that the Roman Catholic denomination must take steps to deal with it honestly and openly and in accordance with the law.

    Churches are magnets for people with problems. Unfortunately, because Christians tend to be trusting souls, people with problems very often
    get into positions of power that they can then abuse (whether sexually,
    or by acquiring excessive wealth, or whatever it might be).

    It is therefore not just the Roman Catholics who have to put their house
    in order, but pretty much all congregations over the whole world.

    It is, in my view, unreasonable to single out the Roman Catholic
    denomination for attack on these grounds. I am not a Roman Catholic, of
    course, but I am firmly against this constant abuse /of/ Roman Catholics
    /by/ non-Catholics (just as I am against abuse of anybody by anybody).

    Let's acknowledge that there's a problem (many problems, in fact), not
    just within the Roman Catholic denomination but also within other denominations, and let's resolve to deal with those problems, helping
    each other towards a solution rather than using the problems as a stick
    to beat each other with.

    Far too often, this newsgroup is like a children's playground. It's time
    for people to start growing up a bit."

    DOLF: "We have a justified cause for complaint against the religious institutions and especially the Roman Catholic Church--of which you are
    also an obstructionist to our justice and human rights over which they luxuriate in their in-humaneness and barbarism as impiety.

    I'm firmly against Roman Catholics treasonable abuses of our Sovereign
    rights to the free expression of a self identity as the exercise of an
    autonomy of will--which is not in slavery to their bad faith as Eucharist.

    *There* *are* *just* *too* *many* *Roman* *Catholic* (et al) *lawyers*
    *and* *judges* *within* *this* *country* *and* *it* *is* *not*
    *possible* *to* *obtain* *fair* *and* *equitable* *justice*.

    The Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities No. 43 of Act 2006
    defines a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN BEINGā€¯ and the question is, if it is permissible to extend this definition to be a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN
    BEING AS A CONSCIOUS REALITY OF HOMO[IOS] SAPIEN[T] WHO IS INSTANTIATED
    WITHIN THE TEMPORAL REALITY AS THEN THE CAUSE FOR REASONING AND
    RATIONALITY."

    That my mathematical theoretical noumenon defines the meta-descriptor prototypes which are prerequisite to the BEING of HOMO[IOS] SAPIEN[T] as EXISTENCE.

    After all the ENNEAD of THOTH and not the Roman Catholic Eucharist,
    expresses an Anthropic Cosmological Principle which appears within its geometric conception as being equivalent to the Pythagorean
    TETRAD/TETRACTYS."

    "Do not think that I will accuse you to the father: there is one that
    accuseth you, even Moses {taken out; drawn forth}, in whom ye trust.

    For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of
    me. But if believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?"
    [John 5:44-47]

    #4400 MOD 22 = 11 [#KAF / #20 - Shem {Exhalted Name, Name, renown}] =
    #400 CE
    #4800 MOD 22 = 6 [#VAV / #6 - Jared {Descent/A ruling; commanding;
    coming down}] = #800 CE
    #5200 MOD 22 = 1 [#ALEPH / #1 - Adam {Taken from 4 corners, Earthy;
    red}] = #1200 CE
    #5600 MOD 22 = 18 [#TSADE / #90 - Nahor {Snorting, Hoarse; dry; hot}] =
    #1600 CE
    #6000 MOD 22 = 13 [#MEM / #40 - Shelah {Sprout/That breaks; that unties;
    that undresses}

    As waters, peoples, nations, languages and tongues; the spring of Torah
    being the source of knowledge and wisdom] = #2000 Y2K / Equinox of
    Wednesday DATE(1996,3,20) + (5 * 364) + 182 days = Wednesday
    DATE(2001,9,12) with Equinox of Saturday DATE(2001,9,23) commencing the
    Sabbath year of 'oth cycle

    - https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzRmc7Bm7indT2h5MFJxblJaT2M

    "And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book
    of Moses, how in the bush spake unto him, saying I [am] the God of
    Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?" [Mark 12:36 (KJV)]

    #6400 MOD 22 = 8 [#CHET / #8 - Methuselah {Man of the dart/javelin
    (weapon, missile, sprout), He has sent his death}]
    #6800 MOD 22 = 3 [#GIMEL / #3 - Enosh {Husband, (certain, mortal) man;
    sick; despaired of; forgetful}]
    #7200 MOD 22 = 20 [#RESH / #200 - Abraham {Father of a multitude, chief
    of multitude}]
    #7600 MOD 22 = 15 [#SAMEK / #60 - Peleg {Division}]
    #8000 MOD 22 = 10 [#YOD / #10 - Noah {Rest, Repose; consolation}]
    #8400 MOD 22 = 5 [#HE / #5 - Mahalalel {Praise (fame) of God}]
    #8800 MOD 22 = 22 [#TAU / #400 - Jacob {He takes by the heel, he
    supplants, That supplants, undermines; the heel}] as 8800 CE

    THAT THE PYTHAGOREAN TETRAD IS SOPHISTIC OPINION WHICH HAS GIVEN RISE TO
    THE HETEROS [BABYLONIAN] THEORY ON NUMBER, IS ITSELF DEFINED BY THIS
    MICROCOSM [1-5-6-7-2-3-4-8-9] AS BEING THEN ASSOCIATED TO THE ORDER OF
    THE SEPTET PHENOMENAL MACROCOSM AS THE PROGRESSION OF MAGIC SQUARES:

    "And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and
    talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will show unto thee the
    judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: With whom the
    kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of
    the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

    So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a
    woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy,
    having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in *PURPLE*
    *AND* *SCARLET* *COLOUR*, and decked with gold and precious stones and
    pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and
    filthiness of her fornication:

    And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,
    THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.


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