• The Boy Scouts Are No Longer Welcome at This Anti-Gay Jamboree

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    And they've been replaced by a Christian alternative.

    Poor Boy Scouts. Earlier this year, their leadership made a
    fairly dramatic change in policy to allow gay people to become
    troop leaders, following on the heels of last year's decision to
    stop kicking out gay Scouts. The move to end discrimination has
    cost the organization some members and donations from religious
    groups that were outraged about the change. But it's also
    suffered smaller, pettier indignities—like its banishment from
    this weekend's Values Voter Summit, the premier political
    conference for evangelical Christians.

    The DC summit, organized by the conservative Family Research
    Council Action, is headlined by no fewer than seven GOP
    presidential candidates. For many years, the Boy Scouts have had
    a place of honor at the event, presenting the American flag as
    the color guard. This year, though, the Scouts are nowhere to be
    found. In their place are boys from Trail Life USA, the outdoor
    adventure and character development group created last year as a
    Christian alternative to the Boy Scouts. Joining them were
    American Heritage Girls, the religious alternative to the Girl

    Trail Life was founded by a religious-right activist from
    Florida, associated with James Dobson's Focus on the Family, who
    was active fighting the Boy Scout policy change. The group's
    official policy on gays says:

    We believe that homosexuality is sinful and immoral, as is any
    sexual activity outside of the sanctity of marriage between a
    Man and a Woman. Consistent with this belief, we have specific
    policies that address membership and sin in both youth and adult

    Trail Life also excludes Mormons and Jews because they don't
    subscribe to the group's particular theology.

    A spokeswoman for the summit's organizers didn't respond to a
    request for comment. But Trail Life CEO Mark Hancock, at his
    booth in the convention hall, said his group was invited to
    replace the Boy Scouts color guard because of "the direction the
    Boy Scouts have taken. They think we're a better fit." Asked
    specifically if it was because of the acceptance of gays,
    Hancock demurred, saying it was simply the Boy Scouts' "general
    departure from their traditional values" that prompted their

    Kim Luckabaugh, the DC-area coordinator for the more established
    American Heritage Girls, said her group replaced the Boy Scouts
    at the conference last year, when Trail Life was just getting
    off the ground, because "we are aligned ministerially. We are
    aligned in our values." She says the FRC organizers have "been
    very kind and gracious to us."

    The booting of the Boy Scouts from the event isn't all that
    surprising. The Family Research Council, which sponsors the
    Values Voter Summit, has been an ardent opponent of the Boy
    Scouts' acceptance of gays. Earlier this year, FRC head Tony
    Perkins lamented that the Boy Scouts were moving "away from
    their moral standard of being morally straight and clean and
    moving into open homosexuality." He claimed that both the Boy
    Scouts and Girls Scouts "are done" as organizations because of
    their acceptance of gays.

    A regular speaker at the event, Mat Staver, with the legal group
    Liberty Counsel, said last month that the change in policy at
    the Boy Scouts meant that "you are going to have all kinds of
    sexual molestation. This is a playground for pedophiles to go
    and have all these boys as objects of their lust. This is
    insane, and we need to literally abandon the Scouts because the
    Scouts, unfortunately, have abandoned us."

    The Values Voter Summit has long been a hotbed of anti-gay
    activism, but this year, organizers are going to great lengths
    to honor people who've personally discriminated against LGBT
    people, such as Kentucky clerk Kim Davis, who refused to follow
    the Supreme Court edict and issue marriage licenses to gay and
    lesbian couples; a florist who dissed her friend and refused to
    do flowers for his gay wedding; and a pair of bakers who refused
    to make a cake for a lesbian couple's wedding. The organizers'
    exclusion of the Boy Scouts seems only fitting, but perhaps
    they've done them a favor: The boys will be spared from
    associating with people who will be remembered on the wrong side
    of history.


    Satch of Bridgend • 18 hours ago
    My God! They look like a bunch of Nazis! Or are they Russian?
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    1Pokey4 Satch of Bridgend • 13 hours ago
    Nazis for Christ! That's the big difference.
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    belseth 1Pokey4 • 9 hours ago
    The Nazis claimed to be a Christian movement. People tend to
    forget that particular aspect of Nazi Germany.
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    yankee dandee belseth • 8 hours ago
    People have no knowledge about WW2 because they don't care--it's
    all about burgers and beer with their marijuana.
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    Liz yankee dandee • 5 hours ago
    Do you speak from experience?
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    ydnas639 yankee dandee • 3 hours ago
    uh . . . can there be onion rings, too?
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    Mike Meagher yankee dandee • 3 hours ago
    Sorry dude: i'm a docent at Rosie the Riveter/WWII Home Front
    National Historical Park in Richmond CA, a vegan, a wine drinker
    and a pot smoker.
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    Edward Mumpster yankee dandee • 2 hours ago
    I prefer mountain dew with my meat and pot, otherwise I fall
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    didactic1 yankee dandee • 2 hours ago
    And they are all going into "IT". Great idea. When the climate
    collapses, no electricity, water or food. I guess some of the
    rednecks might have an advantage. Oh. And knowing how to use an
    AR15 and a few shotguns might help too. Like "gun control" is
    like the LAST thing you want with what's goin' down.
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    d-Democrat belseth • 7 hours ago
    No . . . they replaced it with their own religion, Nazism . . .
    for example, "Gott" was replaced with "Got" . . . particularly
    amoung the SS.
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    Kyler Phoenix d-Democrat • 2 hours ago
    No, they were Christians.
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    didactic1 belseth • 2 hours ago
    No they were a pagan or neo pagan movement.
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    dagobarbz didactic1 • 2 hours ago
    Nope. Gott mit uns means exactly what it says. But they DID
    dress it up with pagan trappings to capture followers' Inner

    But no, despite the occultism and paganism, they were at core
    just another flavor of asshole Christian.
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    didactic1 dagobarbz • an hour ago
    They were pagan.
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    jmtaylor700 didactic1 • an hour ago
    So you're argument is that 64 million Germans quit the Christian
    Church and joined a pagan movement.

    And boy did they raise all those old Christian Churches... oh,
    never mind, that was the Allies that bombed all those old German
    Churches that the Nazi's apparently glorified.

    The usual right wing trappings - take an outlier and declare it
    the brand for the whole so that they continue their life of
    irresponsibility here on earth
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    dagobarbz belseth • 2 hours ago
    Gott mit uns, baby!
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    clemans 1Pokey4 • 4 hours ago
    these parents abuse their children, handicap them, and teach
    them to embrace ignorance, and have hate in their hearts.....and
    there isn't anything that society can do to protect those poor
    kids. As a parent this is so very sad.
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    didactic1 1Pokey4 • 2 hours ago
    Nazis were very gay.
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