On Thursday, August 2, 2001 at 1:28:32 AM UTC-5, Wolf wrote:

The Chance Zipper,one of my favorite flat rides.When run properly it

can

be one of the most dizzying of the spin & pukes.One thing ive always

wondered

is why Chance recommends no single riders.As long as i can remember i have never come across a Zipper that would alow a single rider.The ride has absolutly no lateral forces so i don't see what the problem would be.And frankly after visiting their website i don't think i want to ride it with

2

adults in it as the per tub weight was max at 350lbs.So me at 200lbs,i

would

be wary of rideing with another person over 150! Let me ride the ZIPPER

alone

since most of my wuss friends won't ride it anyway.

I suspect this goes back to the Flight Commander @ PKI reasoning. if some loses consciousness and slumps, they can slide sideways and out of the restraint, leaving them unrestrained in the squirrel cage. That could be messy.
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I personally have ridden as a single rider before on the Zipper (it was around 2008 when every single Zipper nationwide began enforcing No Single Riders like military/homeland security law) and can testify from personal experience that a person even 60
inches or taller can never turn sideways inside the gondola and slip out from under the lap bar. Now I am roughly 74 inches tall. The lap bar is tight against your waist, plus the inside shape of the gondola and the makeup of the human skeleton, you
can't ever turn sideways inside the gondola and slip out from the lap bar. Plus you are completely enclosed in a steel cage. You're safer riding solo on the Zipper than you are riding even paired up on the Himalaya.

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On Thursday, August 2, 2001 at 1:28:32 AM UTC-5, Wolf wrote:

The Chance Zipper,one of my favorite flat rides.When run properly it

can

be one of the most dizzying of the spin & pukes.One thing ive always

wondered

is why Chance recommends no single riders.As long as i can remember i have never come across a Zipper that would alow a single rider.The ride has absolutly no lateral forces so i don't see what the problem would be.And frankly after visiting their website i don't think i want to ride it with

2

adults in it as the per tub weight was max at 350lbs.So me at 200lbs,i

would

be wary of rideing with another person over 150! Let me ride the ZIPPER

alone

since most of my wuss friends won't ride it anyway.

I suspect this goes back to the Flight Commander @ PKI reasoning. if some loses consciousness and slumps, they can slide sideways and out of the restraint, leaving them unrestrained in the squirrel cage. That could be messy.
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<0 0>
=(o)=
-Wolf

I personally have ridden as a single rider on the Zipper (it was around 2008 when every single Zipper began enforcing No Single Riders like military/FBI law) and can testify from personal experience that a single rider even 60 inches or taller can never
turn sideways inside the gondola and slip out from the lap bar. Now I am roughly 74 inches tall. The lap bar is very tight against your abdomen, plus you have the shape of the inside of the gondola, the makeup of the human skeleton, and the fact that
you're enclosed on all sides by steel mesh; you can't ever turn sideways and slip out of the lap bar riding single on the Zipper. You're safer riding single on the Zipper than you are riding even paired up on the Himalaya.

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On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 9:47:17 AM UTC-5, CanobieFan wrote:

They had an open front Zipper car at the Florida State Fair either this year or last. I forget what year but I did ride it. It had the over the shoulder restraint cars.... but still had a no single rider rule.

Clearly, No Single Riders IS NOT about safety at all. There are rumors going around of Zipper ride operators using deadly force on single riders at a growing number of carnivals and fairs across the country, their actions being supported and condoned by
Chance Rides, Inc. It's no wonder no Zipper ever bothers to set up what are called Single Rider Lines, like they have at Disney World (Orlando, Fl) and Universal Orlando.

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On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 11:11:18 PM UTC-5, Dave Althoff, Jr. wrote:

SaraAB87 <irid...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: Both Wade shows and Strates no longer allow singles on the enterprise,
: its a huge disappointment. I have stopped supporting these companies. The : issue with Strates is the employees don't even speak english so they just : throw you out of line, its really rude of them. Both of these fairs have
: POP too. Its kind of pointless anyways as the last 2 times I witnessed
: the Strates enterprise (2 years in a row) it was set up and not even
: operating....
:
: Did huss issue a service bulletin, official safety bulletin or something
: about this? Or is this purely a $$$ thing as you say.
I'm not aware of any such bulletin or notification.

I AM aware that on its last day of operation, I did in fact ride Cedar Point's Enterprise as a solo rider. It's also worth noting that I did witness that ride operating in a seroiusly unbalanced fashion on multiple occasions. It seems the hardware really doesn't care that much; the hydraulic drive is quite overpowered, just as you would expect from a classic Huss ride.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
/X\ _ *** Respect rides. They do not respect you. ***

The extreme vast majority of single riders that want to ride single on the Zipper or any carnival ride don't have a choice but to ride alone. American culture is toxic, disconnected, and overflowing with default hate of all strangers. Americans don't
get along with each other anymore. The entire social atmosphere is confined in closed cliques. Joining in is illegal and will get a person arrested and thrown in prison. "No Single Riders" is in fact designed to keep them completely off. It's the
carnival's way of saying; "You're alone! Go back to your mom's basement, or we will put you in your place!"

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