• El Toro partially derails...

    From BaSSiStiStiSt@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 29 22:55:15 2021
    https://www.reddit.com/r/rollercoasters/comments/oal292/el_toro_partially_derailed_details_in_comments/

    Oh, Intamin.

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  • From CanobieFan@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 2 06:21:39 2021
    Oh, Intamin.

    More like....

    Oh, Six Flags <3

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  • From Bob Rahe@21:1/5 to BaSSiStiStiSt on Thu Jul 8 11:27:56 2021
    On 6/30/21 1:55 AM, BaSSiStiStiSt wrote:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/rollercoasters/comments/oal292/el_toro_partially_derailed_details_in_comments/

    Oh, Intamin.


    Anybody have an new info on this? I was at the park yesterday (7/7)
    and none of the ops/etc. knew much. There were a number of people out
    on the track looking to be doing some work but too far away to really
    tell what. And some hammering noises from somewhere.

    No visible damage from the distance (Zumanjaro's walkway.)

    Anybody?

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  • From Surf Dance Chris@21:1/5 to Bob Rahe on Fri Jul 9 07:25:13 2021
    On Thursday, July 8, 2021 at 11:27:59 AM UTC-4, Bob Rahe wrote:
    On 6/30/21 1:55 AM, BaSSiStiStiSt wrote:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/rollercoasters/comments/oal292/el_toro_partially_derailed_details_in_comments/

    Oh, Intamin.


    Anybody have an new info on this? I was at the park yesterday (7/7)
    and none of the ops/etc. knew much. There were a number of people out
    on the track looking to be doing some work but too far away to really
    tell what. And some hammering noises from somewhere.

    No visible damage from the distance (Zumanjaro's walkway.)

    Anybody?

    I don’t, but anyone know how long they expect the ride to be down? Is this a “won’t reopen until 2022 situation?

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  • From TheK-ManRocks@21:1/5 to Bob Rahe on Fri Jul 9 08:21:34 2021
    On Thursday, July 8, 2021 at 11:27:59 AM UTC-4, Bob Rahe wrote:
    On 6/30/21 1:55 AM, BaSSiStiStiSt wrote:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/rollercoasters/comments/oal292/el_toro_partially_derailed_details_in_comments/

    Oh, Intamin.


    Anybody have an new info on this? I was at the park yesterday (7/7)
    and none of the ops/etc. knew much. There were a number of people out
    on the track looking to be doing some work but too far away to really
    tell what. And some hammering noises from somewhere.

    No visible damage from the distance (Zumanjaro's walkway.)

    Anybody?
    ______

    It's park policy for frontline employees to reapond with
    "I don't know", when asked about major rides issues by
    members of the visitng public.

    You might be able to speak with management directly by
    inquiring at your parks Customer/Guest Services office, if such
    exists.

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  • From Tyler Eaves@21:1/5 to surfd...@aol.com on Fri Jul 9 16:42:55 2021
    On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 10:25:14 AM UTC-4, surfd...@aol.com wrote:

    I don’t, but anyone know how long they expect the ride to be down? Is this a “won’t reopen until 2022 situation?

    Seems very possible, if there's any track damage. Since of course the prefab track can't really be repaired...

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  • From Bob Rahe@21:1/5 to BaSSiStiStiSt on Sat Jul 10 14:30:12 2021
    On 6/30/21 1:55 AM, BaSSiStiStiSt wrote:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/rollercoasters/comments/oal292/el_toro_partially_derailed_details_in_comments/

    Oh, Intamin.


    Some more info, not much...


    <https://www.nj.com/ocean/2021/07/rear-wheels-moved-out-of-position-in-six-flags-roller-coaster-derailment-report-finds.html>

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  • From Surf Dance Chris@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 25 22:00:16 2022
    El Toro had another incident yesterday that apparently sent several to the hospital. It’s unclear so far whether the incident seems related or similar to this one from last year.

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  • From Richard Bannister@21:1/5 to surfd...@aol.com on Fri Aug 26 00:55:01 2022
    On Friday, 26 August 2022 at 06:00:18 UTC+1, surfd...@aol.com wrote:
    El Toro had another incident yesterday that apparently sent several to the hospital. It’s unclear so far whether the incident seems related or similar to this one from last year.

    I think it might be time to review whether really big wood coasters are a good idea.

    -
    www.superiorsolitaire.com

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  • From Doug Miller@21:1/5 to Richard Bannister on Sun Aug 28 10:48:13 2022
    On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:55:03 AM UTC-4, Richard Bannister wrote:
    On Friday, 26 August 2022 at 06:00:18 UTC+1, surfd...@aol.com wrote:
    El Toro had another incident yesterday that apparently sent several to the hospital. It’s unclear so far whether the incident seems related or similar to this one from last year.
    I think it might be time to review whether really big wood coasters are a good idea.

    -
    www.superiorsolitaire.com
    Fair enough, but the question I would ask is “Does Intamin’s record merit concern?” To your point though, I think it’s safe to say that traditional wooden coaster construction is more appropriate for smaller installations, perhaps just a little
    over 100 feet tall.

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  • From TheK-ManRocks@21:1/5 to Doug Miller on Fri Sep 23 06:09:46 2022
    .On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 1:48:14 PM UTC-4, Doug Miller wrote:
    On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:55:03 AM UTC-4, Richard Bannister wrote:
    On Friday, 26 August 2022 at 06:00:18 UTC+1, surfd...@aol.com wrote:
    El Toro had another incident yesterday that apparently sent several to the hospital. It’s unclear so far whether the incident seems related or similar to this one from last year.
    I think it might be time to review whether really big wood coasters are a good idea.

    -
    www.superiorsolitaire.com
    Fair enough, but the question I would ask is “Does Intamin’s record merit concern?” To your point though, I think it’s safe to say that traditional wooden coaster construction is more appropriate for smaller installations, perhaps just a little
    over 100 feet tall.
    ________

    Absolutely not.

    I've rideen El Toro, and have ridden other woodies in its size
    class. AAnd one thing that stuck out in my mind about ET is
    the sheer dynamics of its program - very steep drops, and extreme
    hill, and sharp rolling turns. All of these impose stress on even
    a hybrid wood with steel frame, and might explain the recent history of malfunctioning of this ride.

    Such sudden changes in direction, in both the Y and X axes, stress connecting points between track and structural members, and even
    warp the gauge(width) of the track.


    ET packs a lot of dynamic elements into a relatively small footprint for a coaster of its height and size, and that is where I believe the
    problems lay.

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  • From Surf Dance Chris@21:1/5 to TheK-ManRocks on Fri Jan 20 19:32:55 2023
    On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 9:09:48 AM UTC-4, TheK-ManRocks wrote:
    .On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 1:48:14 PM UTC-4, Doug Miller wrote:
    On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:55:03 AM UTC-4, Richard Bannister wrote:
    On Friday, 26 August 2022 at 06:00:18 UTC+1, surfd...@aol.com wrote:
    El Toro had another incident yesterday that apparently sent several to the hospital. It’s unclear so far whether the incident seems related or similar to this one from last year.
    I think it might be time to review whether really big wood coasters are a good idea.

    -
    www.superiorsolitaire.com
    Fair enough, but the question I would ask is “Does Intamin’s record merit concern?” To your point though, I think it’s safe to say that traditional wooden coaster construction is more appropriate for smaller installations, perhaps just a
    little over 100 feet tall.
    ________

    Absolutely not.

    I've rideen El Toro, and have ridden other woodies in its size
    class. AAnd one thing that stuck out in my mind about ET is
    the sheer dynamics of its program - very steep drops, and extreme
    hill, and sharp rolling turns. All of these impose stress on even
    a hybrid wood with steel frame, and might explain the recent history
    of malfunctioning of this ride.

    Such sudden changes in direction, in both the Y and X axes, stress connecting points between track and structural members, and even
    warp the gauge(width) of the track.


    ET packs a lot of dynamic elements into a relatively small footprint
    for a coaster of its height and size, and that is where I believe the problems lay.

    Any new news or updates about El Toro and it’s future?

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  • From Rik P@21:1/5 to Surf Dance Chris on Sun Jun 11 18:37:48 2023
    On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 7:32:56 PM UTC-8, Surf Dance Chris wrote:
    Any new news or updates about El Toro and it’s future?

    El Toro has been testing.

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  • From Surf Dance Chris@21:1/5 to Rik P on Wed Jun 14 20:37:49 2023
    On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 9:37:49 PM UTC-4, Rik P wrote:
    On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 7:32:56 PM UTC-8, Surf Dance Chris wrote:
    Any new news or updates about El Toro and it’s future?
    El Toro has been testing.

    That’s a good sign! I heard that park has been struggling with its operations this season.

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  • From Surf Dance Chris@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 16 19:21:28 2023
    They announced recently it’s reopening tomorrow June 17!

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