• Cobra 18 WX ST II

    From Tom@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 18 23:39:12 2018
    Hello,

    I recently purchased a used Cobra 18 WX ST II and connected it to a new
    antenna installation. In testing SWR I receive off the chart high SWR. I suspected a ground short and began to test each component starting at the antenna. Isolation testing reveals all components are good wrt a short
    between hot and ground, except the radio. When testing the radio
    (completely unplugged from both power and antenna) I see continuity between
    the center pin coax connector and the coax threads or radio case. I expect there to be no continuity between these (maybe when transmitting or receiving?).

    I contacted Cobra to verify this indicating a problem with the radio, but
    they only replied with a quote for evaluation and repair. Before I
    consider repair or replacement, can anybody verify that continuity between these points on an unplugged radio indicates a problem?

    Thanks in advance,

    Tom

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  • From Nick@21:1/5 to Tom on Tue Sep 18 22:49:21 2018
    On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:12 -0000 (UTC)
    Tom <tom@canich.net> wrote:

    Hello,

    I recently purchased a used Cobra 18 WX ST II and connected it to a
    new antenna installation. In testing SWR I receive off the chart
    high SWR. I suspected a ground short and began to test each
    component starting at the antenna. Isolation testing reveals all
    components are good wrt a short between hot and ground, except the
    radio. When testing the radio (completely unplugged from both power
    and antenna) I see continuity between the center pin coax connector
    and the coax threads or radio case. I expect there to be no
    continuity between these (maybe when transmitting or receiving?).

    I contacted Cobra to verify this indicating a problem with the radio,
    but they only replied with a quote for evaluation and repair. Before
    I consider repair or replacement, can anybody verify that continuity
    between these points on an unplugged radio indicates a problem?

    Three things spring to mind:

    1) Whoever sold you that radio is laughing their ass off because they
    knew it was broken to begin with. Sucker!

    2) Congratulations, you've diagnosed your own problem but are too much
    of a mouthbreather to see it. You'll fit in fine on CB.

    3) Cobra think you're a dipshit. They're not wrong.

    EYE NUB JOO, TOM,

    .Nick.

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  • From Douglas D. Anderson@21:1/5 to Tom on Sat Sep 22 15:37:28 2018
    On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:12 -0000 (UTC), Tom <tom@canich.net> wrote:

    Hello,

    I recently purchased a used Cobra 18 WX ST II and connected it to a new >antenna installation. In testing SWR I receive off the chart high SWR. I >suspected a ground short and began to test each component starting at the >antenna. Isolation testing reveals all components are good wrt a short >between hot and ground, except the radio. When testing the radio
    (completely unplugged from both power and antenna) I see continuity between >the center pin coax connector and the coax threads or radio case. I expect >there to be no continuity between these (maybe when transmitting or >receiving?).

    I contacted Cobra to verify this indicating a problem with the radio, but >they only replied with a quote for evaluation and repair. Before I
    consider repair or replacement, can anybody verify that continuity between >these points on an unplugged radio indicates a problem?

    Thanks in advance,

    Tom

    There is no way any CB radio should be short at the antenna output.
    That model has a 1/2 watt 1k ohm resistor (R83) shunting the output to
    ground, check to see if that is burned- could be "blown short"- a 1/2
    watt resistor is big and fat and easy to spot. http://www.cbradio.nl/cobra/Service_Manual_Cobra_18WX_STII_EMG.pdf
    If you look at the picture of the PCB on page 9 it's right near the
    top edge and should be easy to locate. That's the most likely cause of
    your symptom, but on the other hand if it's been keyed several times
    into a short like that chances are good the final amp is damaged. The
    value of that radio used and in good working condition is about as
    much as a large 7 topping supreme pizza, (about $70 new, about $20
    used and working) if it takes more than 15 or 20 minutes to track down
    and fix you'd be better off giving it to the trash collector and
    chocking it off to a learning experience.

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  • From John De Longdong@21:1/5 to Douglas D. Anderson on Tue Sep 25 21:37:59 2018
    On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 15:37:28 -0400
    Douglas D. Anderson <douganderson1981@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:12 -0000 (UTC), Tom <tom@canich.net> wrote:

    Hello,

    I recently purchased a used Cobra 18 WX ST II and connected it to a
    new antenna installation. In testing SWR I receive off the chart
    high SWR. I suspected a ground short and began to test each
    component starting at the antenna. Isolation testing reveals all >components are good wrt a short between hot and ground, except the
    radio. When testing the radio (completely unplugged from both power
    and antenna) I see continuity between the center pin coax connector
    and the coax threads or radio case. I expect there to be no
    continuity between these (maybe when transmitting or receiving?).

    I contacted Cobra to verify this indicating a problem with the
    radio, but they only replied with a quote for evaluation and
    repair. Before I consider repair or replacement, can anybody verify
    that continuity between these points on an unplugged radio indicates
    a problem?

    Thanks in advance,

    Tom

    There is no way any CB radio should be short at the antenna output.

    If you're a raging faggot, that *can* cause it to happen.

    That model has a 1/2 watt 1k ohm resistor (R83) shunting the output to ground, check to see if that is burned- could be "blown short"- a 1/2
    watt resistor is big and fat and easy to spot. http://www.cbradio.nl/cobra/Service_Manual_Cobra_18WX_STII_EMG.pdf

    Nope. That only happens if the operator is a nigger (or attracted to
    niggers).

    If you look at the picture of the PCB on page 9 it's right near the
    top edge and should be easy to locate. That's the most likely cause of
    your symptom, but on the other hand if it's been keyed several times
    into a short like that chances are good the final amp is damaged. The
    value of that radio used and in good working condition is about as
    much as a large 7 topping supreme pizza, (about $70 new, about $20
    used and working) if it takes more than 15 or 20 minutes to track down
    and fix you'd be better off giving it to the trash collector and
    chocking it off to a learning experience.

    Yeah, but when you're bartering with crystal meth, you take what you
    can get. And you'll fucking like it.

    - JDL.

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  • From Tom@21:1/5 to Anderson on Sat Sep 29 20:22:48 2018
    On 2018-09-22, Douglas D Anderson <douganderson1981@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:12 -0000 (UTC), Tom <tom@canich.net> wrote:

    I recently purchased a used Cobra 18 WX ST II and connected it to a new >>antenna installation. In testing SWR I receive off the chart high SWR. I >>suspected a ground short and began to test each component starting at the >>antenna. Isolation testing reveals all components are good wrt a short >>between hot and ground, except the radio. When testing the radio >>(completely unplugged from both power and antenna) I see continuity between >>the center pin coax connector and the coax threads or radio case. I expect >>there to be no continuity between these (maybe when transmitting or >>receiving?).

    [snip]

    There is no way any CB radio should be short at the antenna output.
    That model has a 1/2 watt 1k ohm resistor (R83) shunting the output to ground, check to see if that is burned- could be "blown short"- a 1/2
    watt resistor is big and fat and easy to spot. http://www.cbradio.nl/cobra/Service_Manual_Cobra_18WX_STII_EMG.pdf
    If you look at the picture of the PCB on page 9 it's right near the
    top edge and should be easy to locate. That's the most likely cause of
    your symptom, but on the other hand if it's been keyed several times
    into a short like that chances are good the final amp is damaged. The
    value of that radio used and in good working condition is about as
    much as a large 7 topping supreme pizza, (about $70 new, about $20
    used and working) if it takes more than 15 or 20 minutes to track down
    and fix you'd be better off giving it to the trash collector and
    chocking it off to a learning experience.

    Thanks for your reply and the service manual. I took a look at R83 and it tests ok, however I noticed that L19 is missing its core and appears to be physically damaged. I suppose it could be the source of a short. I may
    try replacing it, although I don't see it noted in the service manual so
    I'm not sure how to adjust a new component. Perhaps my best move is to
    follow your advice and move on to a new radio!

    Thanks again,

    Tom

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  • From Douglas D. Anderson@21:1/5 to Tom on Tue Oct 2 22:39:45 2018
    On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 20:22:48 -0000 (UTC)
    Tom <tom@canich.net> wrote:

    On 2018-09-22, Douglas D Anderson <douganderson1981@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:39:12 -0000 (UTC), Tom <tom@canich.net>
    wrote:
    I recently purchased a used Cobra 18 WX ST II and connected it to a
    new antenna installation. In testing SWR I receive off the chart
    high SWR. I suspected a ground short and began to test each
    component starting at the antenna. Isolation testing reveals all >>components are good wrt a short between hot and ground, except the
    radio. When testing the radio (completely unplugged from both
    power and antenna) I see continuity between the center pin coax
    connector and the coax threads or radio case. I expect there to be
    no continuity between these (maybe when transmitting or
    receiving?).

    [snip]

    There is no way any CB radio should be short at the antenna output.
    That model has a 1/2 watt 1k ohm resistor (R83) shunting the output
    to ground, check to see if that is burned- could be "blown short"-
    a 1/2 watt resistor is big and fat and easy to spot. http://www.cbradio.nl/cobra/Service_Manual_Cobra_18WX_STII_EMG.pdf
    If you look at the picture of the PCB on page 9 it's right near the
    top edge and should be easy to locate. That's the most likely cause
    of your symptom, but on the other hand if it's been keyed several
    times into a short like that chances are good the final amp is
    damaged. The value of that radio used and in good working condition
    is about as much as a large 7 topping supreme pizza, (about $70
    new, about $20 used and working) if it takes more than 15 or 20
    minutes to track down and fix you'd be better off giving it to the
    trash collector and chocking it off to a learning experience.

    Thanks for your reply and the service manual. I took a look at R83
    and it tests ok, however I noticed that L19 is missing its core and
    appears to be physically damaged. I suppose it could be the source
    of a short. I may try replacing it, although I don't see it noted in
    the service manual so I'm not sure how to adjust a new component.
    Perhaps my best move is to follow your advice and move on to a new
    radio!

    Thanks again,

    Tom

    No problem, Tom. By the way: I forgot to mention one thing: please do
    your part to help keep CB white.

    The fewer niggers we have on there, the better. Don't know if you've
    listened to the Super Bowl recently, but it's basically a bunch of
    bootlipped coonbabble. Nobody needs more of that.

    Thanks!

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