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  • 8950 Substitutes - I'm Confused!

    From lu3agi@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 22 07:37:02 2020
    El jueves, 25 de noviembre de 1999, 5:00:00 (UTC-3), DavidC escribió:
    I recently asked about substitutes for the incredibly costly
    8950 tube. I found a discussion on DejaNews about this and
    there was a suggestion that 6KG6A's are excellent.

    I looked closely at the facts and there seem to be several
    significant differences between the 8950 and all of the other
    suggested substitutes. I don't understand how a 6KD6 or
    6KG6 could be "forced into" a 8950 tube socket.

    The 6KG6 is a Novar and I suppose the 6KD6 could fit in the
    6KG6 socket but I don't think the 8950 is even close.

    I think maybe folks meant that after the amp was modified from an
    8950 to a 6KG6 one could substitute a 6KD6 for the 6KG6.

    Can someone clarify please?

    - Thanks again & Happy Thanksgiving to all! DavidC K1YP

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    The 6KD6 tube is of a 12-contact base the same as the 8950 tube. The only difference is that in the 6KD6 tube the leg 6 is free without connection while in the 8950 tube it is attached to the leg 2 which is the cathode connection

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  • From lu3agi@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 22 07:34:54 2020
    The 6KD6 tube is of a 12-contact base the same as the 8950 tube. The only difference is that in the 6KD6 tube the leg 6 is free without connection while in the 8950 tube it is attached to the leg 2 which is the cathode connection

    LU3AGI

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  • From tramdr@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 21 10:59:26 2022
    I'm kinda a sweep tube amp man, maybe not an expert, but I have done a lot of research. The 8950 is nothing but a 12v filament version of the 6v filament 6lf6 (and family) tube. There are a few drop in substitutes for the 6lf6 and family and a few more
    that are very close, but maybe a grid is connected to only 1 pin, not 2 pins, or vice versa, etc. Other than the filament voltage, the 8950 is a direct drop in for the 6lf6 tubes.
    The M-2057 is the military or heavy duty or ruggedized verion of the 8950. It is the same tube and pinout, but it is bigger and heavier. Since it is physically and electrically bigger, it is not quite a direct drop in. It does use the same 12v filament
    for one, but it draws a bit more filament current than the 8950. The capacitances would be somewhat off from an 8950 too. It will take more abuse, take more voltage and put out more than an 8950 but it is somewhat different.
    Here's a clip and paste of a tube chart I made of the 12 pin sweep tube:
    12 PIN large (Palomar Maco)
    6LF6 40 6V 2A
    6LX6 40 6LF6, 6LX6, and 6MH6 are said to be virtually identical except for size
    6MH6 38.5
    6JS6 28
    6JS6A 28
    6JS6B 28
    6JS6C 30
    6KD6 33
    6KN6* 30
    6LB6 30
    6LR6 30
    6JM6A 17.5
    8950 33 12V Filament 1.1A
    M2057 40 12V Filament 1.3A

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