• Re: The Lazy H does not seem to exhibit any gain over a dipole in the r

    From Dale Neace@21:1/5 to Michael on Sat Dec 25 15:31:28 2021
    On Tuesday, May 10, 2011 at 9:13:36 AM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
    I've been wanting to build a Lazy H antenna for 10 meters for some
    time now. Last summer I purchased a new house with some land, and I
    decided to give the Lazy H antenna a try. According to the ARRL
    handbook a Lazy H antenna with 1/2 spacing between the top and bottom elements has 5.9 db gain over a half wave dipole. At 5/8th wave
    spacing between the top and bottom elements the ARRL antenna handbook
    claims the Lazy H is suppose to have 6.7 db gain over a 1/2 dipole.
    In the real world I have found the Lazy H to actually have less gain
    than a 1/2 wave dipole at both 5/8th wave spacing and 1/2 wave
    spacing.
    I viewed the W8JI web page concerning the Lazy H. I used 450 ohm
    ladder line between the top and bottom elements, and I center fed that
    piece of ladder line with another 100 foot run of 450 ohm ladder line
    back to the shack. The ladder line runs perpendicular away from the
    Lazy H. I attached the ladder line to the balanced line input on my
    Dentron MT-3000 antenna tuner.
    Dentron MT-3000
    http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/868
    The first thing I noticed is I have to turn the antenna matching
    adjustment all the way to the right to get the SWR to come down, and
    the transmitter matching to about 3 o'clock. I've never had to turn
    the antenna matching adjustment that far for any other antenna to
    match. I also hooked the ladder line to my Drake MN-75 antenna tuner
    with the 4:1 balun installed and the adjustments on the Drake antenna
    tuner where about the same as the Dentron MT-3000.
    The top wire on the Lazy H is at about 45 feet. I also have a coax
    fed 1/2 wave dipole for 10 meters at about 30 feet. I live near
    Charleston, South Carolina, and I have both the dipole and the Lazy H broadside to southern California.
    I did multiple A/B comparisons between the 1/2 wave 10 meter dipole
    and the 10 meter Lazy H and this is what I found.
    Charleston, South Carolina to Arkanasas via sporaic E skip
    - The dipole easily out performs the Lazy H
    F layer skip....
    Charleston, South Carolina. to Arizona
    - The dipole easily out performs the Lazy H
    Charleston, South Carolina to California
    - The dipole easily out performs the Lazy H
    Charleston, South Carolina to Hawaii
    - The dipole and the Lazy H are about the same
    When sporadic E skip rolled in from Ohio the Lazy H demonstrated the
    expected null to the North.
    I have rechecked all the connections and they are correct. I verified
    the connections with an ohm meter and the top left element is
    connected to the bottom left element. The top right element is
    connected to the bottom right element. There is no connectivity
    between the left and right elements which is what the handbook shows.
    There is no twist in the ladder line that connects the top and bottom elements. This is a center fed Lazy H, and not a bottom fed Lazy H. I verified the Lazy was in fact pointing in the correct direction by
    rotation my dipole to null out signals coming from California. I
    noted the direction with my compass, and then I made sure the Lazy H
    was broadside to that direction on the compass.
    Has anyone seen real world gain with the Lazy H on 10 meters verses a
    dipole? My experience shows it consistently lags behind the 1/2 wave
    dipole even through the Lazy H is 10+ feet higher than the dipole.
    I also built an extended double zepp for 10 meters with a 450 matching section to a 1:1 balun and then to coax, and the extended double zepp consistently out performs the dipole in it's preferred direction.
    Hello Michael
    i was wondering if you built the antenna correctly if so please forgive the question!
    you did make each element 1/2 wave length long correct? as you need 4 half wave elements for this antenna not just two have wave dipoles 73 N4XLD

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