• [G3XBM] The future of the hobby

    From G3XBM via rec.radio.amateur.moderat@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 29 01:56:35 2021
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    XPost: free.uk.amateur-radio

    Roger G3XBM's (Mainly) Amateur Radio Blog

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    The future of the hobby

    Posted: 28 Oct 2021 06:44 AM PDT http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/2021/10/the-future-of-hobby.html


    It is hard to generalise, but amateur radio is changing. Years ago, to talk
    to people around the world meant an expensive phone call or getting an
    amateur licence and building your own gear. Today, many of us just buy a
    main transceiver and few build their own gear. We are (nearly) all guilty.
    I know I am.
    What happens in 20 years' time? Many of us will be old and frail and few of
    us will be interested in shiny new transceivers. Quite a few manufacturers
    will decide there is little profit in amateur radio and leave the market. Dealers will go out of business. There will be fewer adverts in magazines.
    Some magazines will close. The hobby will die.
    I really hope I am wrong. It is up to us all to forget what brought us into
    the hobby, as the magic of radio will no longer be the magnet it once was. Today, talking across the planet is free and easy via the internet by
    video. We need to understand what "turns young people on" technologically
    and move with the times.
    Grey haired old men waxing lyrical about the past is not the future.
    No, I am concerned. Your views?

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    Ultra-simple 80m transceiver

    Posted: 28 Oct 2021 03:33 AM PDT http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/2021/10/ultra-simple-80m-transceiver.html


    As mentioned before, there is often a compulsion to get results with the
    fewest parts. Usually, this involves a compromise, often with the RX. This
    is the case with this rig. It certainly works, but be careful not to call
    over a co-channel station.

    See
    https://sites.google.com/view/g3xbm4/home/hf-mf-and-lf/homebrew/80m-xbm80-2


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    10m FT8 RX (Thursday)

    Posted: 28 Oct 2021 02:13 PM PDT http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/2021/10/10m-ft8-rx-thursday_28.html


    My gear was turned on at about 0730z. 2 spots already at 0755z. Furthermost
    is R9CA (3677km). I guess this is F2.
    UPDATE 1036z: So far today on 10m FT8 RX, 47 stations spotted.
    UPDATE 1329z: 69 stations spotted on 10m FT8 RX with the furthermost 7Q7CT (7955km) in Malawi.
    UPDATE 1910z: 126 stations spotted. As it is dark, I shall go QRT soon.
    UPDATE 2113z: QRT. 126 stations spotted, so no more stations spotted on
    10m FT8 RX today.

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    160m FT8 overnight

    Posted: 28 Oct 2021 12:53 AM PDT http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/2021/10/160m-ft8-overnight.html



    A decent quantity of stations spotted on topband FT8 RX in the last day
    with 300 stations spotted including 6 in the USA, 1 in Caanda and 1 in Greenland. Still using the coax to my 2m big-wheel (10m long?) loaded with
    a ferrite-rod and a mains ground (see map).


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    Sunspots - Thursday October 28th 2021

    Posted: 27 Oct 2021 11:02 PM PDT http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/2021/10/sunspots-thursday-october-28th-2021.html


    Solar flux is 111 and the SSN 91. A=3 and K=0.

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    160m FT8 RX

    Posted: 28 Oct 2021 12:41 AM PDT http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/2021/10/160m-ft8-rx_27.html


    As my son managed to sever my earth-electrode "antenna" whilst doing some gardening for us, I am again using the coax to my 2m big-wheel loaded with
    a ferrite rod "ATU".
    The antenna is under 5m at its highest and the coax only 50cm above ground
    at it lowest just outside the shack. I am just using the mains ground. The
    coax is under 10m long.
    So far this evening on 160m FT8 RX 19 stations spotted with the furthermost UA1OLM (2653km).
    UPDATE 2002z: 83 stations spotted this evening on 160m FT8 RX with the furthermost RW4PU (3416km).
    UPDATE 2115z: 140 stations spotted so far this evening on 160m FT8 RX.
    UPDATE 2300z: Staying on overnight.

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    My main G3XBM website and video channel

    Posted: 27 Oct 2021 04:14 AM PDT http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/2021/10/my-main-g3xbm-website.html


    A reminder that my main G3XBM website (less often updated than this blog)
    has far more details about interests and projects. I also have a video
    channel on YouTube.

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    10m FT8 RX (Wednesday)

    Posted: 27 Oct 2021 09:57 AM PDT http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/2021/10/10m-ft8-rx-wednesday_27.html


    My 10m FT8 RX was turned on about 0900z today. It is now 1025z and, so
    far, 108 stations have been spotted.
    UPDATE 1040z: 140 stations spotted so far on 10m FT8 RX.
    UPDATE 1242z: 224 stations spotted.
    UPDATE 1555z: 326 stations spotted today. Once it gets dark expect fewer
    DX spots.

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 29 07:49:25 2021
    XPost: rec.radio.amateur.equipment, uk.radio.amateur

    It has none ruined by the FL and FT8 ....

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  • From Legate@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Fri Oct 29 07:24:42 2021
    XPost: uk.radio.amateur, rec.radio.amateur.equipment

    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    It has none ruined by the FL and FT8 ....


    Not according to the data. AR evolving, not stagnating, is not necessary a
    bad thing.

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Legate on Fri Oct 29 15:27:59 2021
    XPost: uk.radio.amateur, rec.radio.amateur.equipment

    On 29/10/2021 08:24, Legate wrote:
    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    It has none ruined by the FL and FT8 ....


    Not according to the data. AR evolving, not stagnating, is not necessary a bad thing.

    not amateur radio any longer

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  • From Rambo@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Fri Oct 29 19:22:20 2021
    XPost: uk.radio.amateur, rec.radio.amateur.equipment

    On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 15:27:59 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On 29/10/2021 08:24, Legate wrote:
    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    It has none ruined by the FL and FT8 ....


    Not according to the data. AR evolving, not stagnating, is not necessary a >> bad thing.

    not amateur radio any longer

    Well it sure aint professional...

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  • From Legate@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Sun Oct 31 07:50:26 2021
    XPost: uk.radio.amateur, rec.radio.amateur.equipment

    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 29/10/2021 08:24, Legate wrote:
    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    It has none ruined by the FL and FT8 ....


    Not according to the data. AR evolving, not stagnating, is not necessary a >> bad thing.

    not amateur radio any longer


    As time and technology has moved on, it’s possibly not the amateur radio
    that you fondly remember, because it’s evolved, but it’s all still amateur radio,

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Legate on Sun Oct 31 08:02:03 2021
    XPost: uk.radio.amateur, rec.radio.amateur.equipment

    On 31/10/2021 07:50, Legate wrote:
    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 29/10/2021 08:24, Legate wrote:
    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    It has none ruined by the FL and FT8 ....


    Not according to the data. AR evolving, not stagnating, is not necessary a >>> bad thing.

    not amateur radio any longer


    As time and technology has moved on, it’s possibly not the amateur radio that you fondly remember, because it’s evolved, but it’s all still amateur
    radio,

    what do you think of voodoo audio then ? .....

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  • From Legate@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Sun Oct 31 08:59:06 2021
    XPost: uk.radio.amateur, rec.radio.amateur.equipment

    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 31/10/2021 07:50, Legate wrote:
    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 29/10/2021 08:24, Legate wrote:
    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    It has none ruined by the FL and FT8 ....


    Not according to the data. AR evolving, not stagnating, is not necessary a >>>> bad thing.

    what do you think of voodoo audio then ? .....

    I’m not into FT8, but I acknowledge that data modes are popular and new
    modes pop up from time-to-time that become popular. I can’t see that FT8 is preventing anyone from using other modes, or that adding new and popular
    ways to communicate, is a bad thing. I also can’t see how anyone can
    conclude that RF data modes are “not amateur radio”.

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Legate on Sun Oct 31 09:37:58 2021
    XPost: uk.radio.amateur, rec.radio.amateur.equipment

    On 31/10/2021 08:59, Legate wrote:
    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 31/10/2021 07:50, Legate wrote:
    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 29/10/2021 08:24, Legate wrote:
    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    It has none ruined by the FL and FT8 ....


    Not according to the data. AR evolving, not stagnating, is not necessary a
    bad thing.

    what do you think of voodoo audio then ? .....

    I’m not into FT8, but I acknowledge that data modes are popular and new modes pop up from time-to-time that become popular. I can’t see that FT8 is preventing anyone from using other modes, or that adding new and popular
    ways to communicate, is a bad thing. I also can’t see how anyone can conclude that RF data modes are “not amateur radio”.


    what has voodoo audio got to do with ft8 ?

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  • From Legate@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Sun Oct 31 23:55:09 2021
    XPost: uk.radio.amateur, rec.radio.amateur.equipment

    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 31/10/2021 08:59, Legate wrote:
    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 31/10/2021 07:50, Legate wrote:
    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 29/10/2021 08:24, Legate wrote:
    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    It has none ruined by the FL and FT8 ....

    what has voodoo audio got to do with ft8 ?

    No idea. You mentioned it in the context of FT8 ruining amateur radio ;)

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Legate on Mon Nov 1 08:01:49 2021
    XPost: uk.radio.amateur, rec.radio.amateur.equipment

    On 31/10/2021 23:55, Legate wrote:
    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 31/10/2021 08:59, Legate wrote:
    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 31/10/2021 07:50, Legate wrote:
    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
    On 29/10/2021 08:24, Legate wrote:
    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    It has none ruined by the FL and FT8 ....

    what has voodoo audio got to do with ft8 ?

    No idea. You mentioned it in the context of FT8 ruining amateur radio ;)



    'As time and technology has moved on, it’s possibly not the amateur radio that you fondly remember, because it’s evolved, but it’s all still amateur radio,'

    I replied to your comment

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  • From Legate@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Mon Nov 1 16:10:31 2021
    XPost: uk.radio.amateur, rec.radio.amateur.equipment

    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    'As time and technology has moved on, it’s possibly not the amateur radio that you fondly remember, because it’s evolved, but it’s all still amateur
    radio,'

    I replied to your comment

    No, you changed the subject from your belief that FT8 isn’t a valid amateur radio mode, to something else, when you realised you couldn’t answer ;)

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Legate on Mon Nov 1 16:12:07 2021
    XPost: uk.radio.amateur, rec.radio.amateur.equipment

    On 01/11/2021 16:10, Legate wrote:
    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    'As time and technology has moved on, it’s possibly not the amateur radio >> that you fondly remember, because it’s evolved, but it’s all still amateur
    radio,'

    I replied to your comment

    No, you changed the subject from your belief that FT8 isn’t a valid amateur radio mode, to something else, when you realised you couldn’t answer ;)


    whatever

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  • From Legate@21:1/5 to kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com on Mon Nov 1 17:25:13 2021
    XPost: uk.radio.amateur, rec.radio.amateur.equipment

    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    No, you changed the subject from your belief that FT8 isn’t a valid amateur
    radio mode, to something else, when you realised you couldn’t answer ;)


    whatever

    Thanks for proving my point. That was easy ;)

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  • From Jim GM4DHJ ...@21:1/5 to Legate on Mon Nov 1 20:24:11 2021
    XPost: uk.radio.amateur, rec.radio.amateur.equipment

    On 11/1/2021 5:25 PM, Legate wrote:
    Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    No, you changed the subject from your belief that FT8 isn’t a valid amateur
    radio mode, to something else, when you realised you couldn’t answer ;) >>>

    whatever

    Thanks for proving my point. That was easy ;)



    good man...glad you are happy...

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