• Odd man out

    From gerson@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 19 11:53:14 2020
    Find an odd man out (and add to the list)

    bus
    cab
    exam
    gym
    taxi

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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to gerson on Tue May 19 17:30:54 2020
    On 19/05/2020 02:53, gerson wrote:
    Find an odd man out (and add to the list)

    bus
    cab
    exam
    gym
    taxi

    I can't find an odd man out! That is, I can see a clear link between all
    five words. If my link is the one you have in mind, then the following
    words would also belong in the group:

    cop
    cox
    gyro
    kilo
    plane
    radio


    But these would not:

    bicycle
    salon
    test
    tractor
    train
    tram

    --
    Richard Heathfield
    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
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  • From Richard Tobin@21:1/5 to rjh@cpax.org.uk on Tue May 19 16:54:58 2020
    In article <ra11jv$fls$1@dont-email.me>,
    Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
    On 19/05/2020 02:53, gerson wrote:
    Find an odd man out (and add to the list)

    bus
    cab
    exam
    gym
    taxi

    I can't find an odd man out! That is, I can see a clear link between all
    five words. If my link is the one you have in mind, then the following
    words would also belong in the group:

    cop
    cox
    gyro
    kilo
    plane
    radio


    But these would not:

    bicycle
    salon
    test
    tractor
    train

    Ok so far.

    tram

    ???

    -- Richard

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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to Richard Tobin on Tue May 19 21:09:13 2020
    On 19/05/2020 17:54, Richard Tobin wrote:
    In article <ra11jv$fls$1@dont-email.me>,
    Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
    On 19/05/2020 02:53, gerson wrote:
    Find an odd man out (and add to the list)

    bus
    cab
    exam
    gym
    taxi

    I can't find an odd man out! That is, I can see a clear link between all
    five words. If my link is the one you have in mind, then the following
    words would also belong in the group:

    cop
    cox
    gyro
    kilo
    plane
    radio


    But these would not:

    bicycle
    salon
    test
    tractor
    train

    Ok so far.

    tram

    ???


    Yup.

    I was sure, but because it's you I checked again.

    I'm still sure.

    If you're thinking of Benjamin O (1764-1805), the term pre-dates him.

    And if that means nothing to you, perhaps we have discovered different connections (although if that's the case, I'm startled by the number of
    "Ok so far" coincidences).

    --
    Richard Heathfield
    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
    Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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  • From gerson@21:1/5 to Richard Heathfield on Thu May 21 09:27:08 2020
    "Richard Heathfield" wrote in message news:ra11jv$fls$1@dont-email.me...

    On 19/05/2020 02:53, gerson wrote:
    Find an odd man out (and add to the list)

    bus
    cab
    exam
    gym
    taxi

    I can't find an odd man out! That is, I can see a clear link between all
    five words. If my link is the one you have in mind, then the following
    words would also belong in the group:

    cop
    cox
    gyro
    kilo
    plane
    radio


    But these would not:

    bicycle
    salon
    test
    tractor
    train
    tram

    Yes, maybe 'gyro' and 'plane' belong in a list of their own along with 'fan'

    And there is an odd man out

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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to gerson on Thu May 21 11:24:26 2020
    [Possible spoiler alert below, ROT-13d.]

    On 21/05/2020 00:27, gerson wrote:


    "Richard Heathfield"  wrote in message news:ra11jv$fls$1@dont-email.me...
    On 19/05/2020 02:53, gerson wrote:
    Find an odd man out (and add to the list)
    bus
    cab
    exam
    gym
    taxi

    I can't find an odd man out! That is, I can see a clear link between
    all five words. If my link is the one you have in mind, then the
    following words would also belong in the group:

    cop
    cox
    gyro
    kilo
    plane
    radio


    But these would not:

    bicycle
    salon
    test
    tractor
    train
    tram

    Yes, maybe 'gyro' and 'plane' belong in a list of their own along with
    'fan'

    And there is an odd man out



    Vs V'z ng yrnfg oebnqyl evtug, gura gur pbaarpgvba vf gung gur jbeqf ner fubegrarq sbezf bs ybatre jbeqf.

    Va gur tebhc:

    ohf sebz bzavohf, pno sebz pnoevbyrg, rknz sebz rknzvangvba, tlz sebz tlzanfvhz, gnkv sebz gnkvpno juvpu vf vgfrys sebz gnkvzrgre pnoevbyrg.
    Guvf qbhoyr fubegravat znl znxr gnkv gur BC'f bqq bar bhg.

    pbc vf sebz pbccre, pbk sebz pbkfjnva, tleb sebz rvgure nhgbtleb be
    tlebfpbcr, xvyb sebz xvybtenz, cynar sebz nrebcynar (nygubhtu bs pbhefr
    cynar pna nyfb qrfpevor n syng fhesnpr be n gbby fb vg zvtug unir gb tb
    va n fhotebhc), enqvb sebz enqvbgryrtencul.

    Fbzr zvtug jnag gb cynpr genz va gur yvfg gbb ba gur tebhaqf gung vg vf
    n pyvccvat bs Orawnzva Bhgenz, n cvbarre va gur svryq. Ohg gur grez vf
    byqre guna ur vf.

    Comments?

    --
    Richard Heathfield
    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
    Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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  • From Richard Tobin@21:1/5 to rjh@cpax.org.uk on Thu May 21 13:04:08 2020
    In article <ra5ksr$106$1@dont-email.me>,
    Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:

    Fbzr zvtug jnag gb cynpr genz va gur yvfg gbb ba gur tebhaqf gung vg vf
    n pyvccvat bs Orawnzva Bhgenz, n cvbarre va gur svryq. Ohg gur grez vf
    byqre guna ur vf.

    Vg vf, va vgf hfhny frafr, n fubegravat bs genz-pne ("be gur yvxr",
    nf gur BRQ fnlf). Gur rneyvre zrnavat bs genz jnf gur genpx ba juvpu
    vg ena.

    -- Richard

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  • From Richard Tobin@21:1/5 to rjh@cpax.org.uk on Thu May 21 13:32:48 2020
    In article <ra5v05$29t$1@dont-email.me>,
    Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:

    Ohg V pbaprqr gung BRQ cebonoyl gehzcf Jvxgvbanel. :-)

    Gur BRQ'f ragel vf engure ybat, fb V jba'g ercebqhpr vg nyy,
    naq gur Trezna rglzbybtl lbh dhbgr nccrnef gb or qrevirq sebz vg.
    Gur BRQ tbrf ba gb fnl:

    Gur fcrpvsvp frafr svefg sbhaq va Fpbgpu vf 'gur genz bs n
    oneebj'. Gur shegure frafr-qrirybczrag cerfragf znal qvssvphygvrf,
    puvrsyl sebz gur fpnepvgl bs rneyl rknzcyrf, naq gur snpg gung gur
    inevbhf frafrf ner sebz frcnengr ybpnyvgvrf, fb gung gurl pnaabg or
    gnxra nf fubjvat nal trareny qrirybczrag. Ohg oenapu VV, va juvpu
    genz vf n zvaref' grez sbe gur iruvpyr sbe pneelvat pbny be ber (va
    vgf qrirybczrag sebz n unaq-oneebj, be ng yrnfg n fyrqtr, gb n fznyy
    4-jurryrq veba jntba) znl, ba gur cevapvcyr bs cnef ceb gbgb, unir
    nevfra bhg bs gung bs 'oneebj-genz' va V. Oenapu VVV vf zber
    qvssvphyg, naq vf gur pehk bs gur jbeq. Ohg vs vg jnf fubeg sbe
    fbzrguvat yvxr 'genz-genpx', vg zvtug unir nevfra bhg bs VV; naq vs
    vg jnf nccyvrq cevznevyl gb gur jbbqra ornzf be 'envyf' ynvq nf
    jurry genpxf, vg zvtug pbaprvinoyl tb onpx gb gur Ybj Trezna frafr
    bs 'onyx' be 'ornz': rivqrapr vf jnagvat. Sebz VV be VVV hfrq
    nggevohgviryl pnzr genz-ebnq (va hfr va 1800), naq gur yngre
    genz-jnl (va hfr va 1825); nyfb genz-pneevntr naq gur zbqrea
    genz-pne, xabja va 1868 naq 1873 erfcrpgviryl, naq orsber 1880
    fubegrarq va cbchyne Ratyvfu hfr gb genz, oenapu VI, juvpu guhf ol
    n pvephvgbhf pbhefr 'unexf onpx' gb n frafr nxva gb oenapu VV.

    ("Zbqrea" ersyrpgf gur snpg gung gur ragel unf abg shyyl hcqngrq fvapr
    vg jnf choyvfurq va 1914.)

    Gur oenapurf ersreerq gb ner:

    V. N funsg bs n oneebj be pneg.
    VV. N senzrjbex, oneebj, be gur yvxr, ba juvpu ybnqf ner qenttrq,
    pneevrq, be fhccbegrq.
    VVV. N genpx bs jbbq, fgbar, be veba; n genz-ebnq be genzjnl.
    VI. Fubeg sbe genz-pne a. be gur yvxr.

    Bs pbhefr vs lbh jrer gb nethr gung vg rkvfgf nf gur bevtvany
    hanooerivngrq sbez, gur fnzr jbhyq nccyl gb "cynar".

    -- Richard

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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to Richard Tobin on Thu May 21 14:16:52 2020
    On 21/05/2020 14:04, Richard Tobin wrote:
    In article <ra5ksr$106$1@dont-email.me>,
    Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:

    Fbzr zvtug jnag gb cynpr genz va gur yvfg gbb ba gur tebhaqf gung vg vf
    n pyvccvat bs Orawnzva Bhgenz, n cvbarre va gur svryq. Ohg gur grez vf
    byqre guna ur vf.

    Vg vf, va vgf hfhny frafr, n fubegravat bs genz-pne ("be gur yvxr",
    nf gur BRQ fnlf). Gur rneyvre zrnavat bs genz jnf gur genpx ba juvpu
    vg ena.


    Zl zvyrntr inevrf.

    V unir:

    Cbffvoyl sebz Ybj Trezna gennz (“genz; onyx be ornz, nf bs n fyrqtr be jurryoneebj; unaqyr bs n oneebj be fyrqtr; ehat be fgrc bs n ynqqre; one
    bs n punve”); Fngreynaq Sevfvna genzr, geâz (“ornz bs jbbq; ornz bs n jurryoneebj; ehat be fgrc bs n ynqqre; one bs n punve”); fnvq gb or hygvzngryl sebz n ybfg Jrfg Treznavp (Vatinrbavp) jbeq. Pbzcner Zvqqyr
    Qhgpu genzr (“onyx, ornz; ehat bs n ynqqre”); Zvqqyr Ybj Trezna genzr, gerzr; Jrfg Syrzvfu gennz, genzr.

    Gur cbchyne qrevingvba sebz gur fheanzr bs gur Ratyvfu cvbarre genzjnl
    ohvyqre Orawnzva Bhgenz (1764–1805) vf snyfr: gur grez cer-qngrq uvz.

    Ohg V pbaprqr gung BRQ cebonoyl gehzcf Jvxgvbanel. :-)

    --
    Richard Heathfield
    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to Richard Tobin on Thu May 21 15:37:29 2020
    On 21/05/2020 14:32, Richard Tobin wrote:

    <snip>

    Bs pbhefr vs lbh jrer gb nethr gung vg rkvfgf nf gur bevtvany
    hanooerivngrq sbez, gur fnzr jbhyq nccyl gb "cynar".

    Yes, on reflection I think I should withdraw 'plane', or at least move
    it into a third group.

    I'd be curious to know, now, whether the OP thinks we've cracked it, or
    whether he had something else entirely in mind.

    --
    Richard Heathfield
    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
    Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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  • From gerson@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 22 08:17:08 2020
    "Richard Heathfield" wrote in message news:ra63na$2gu$1@dont-email.me...

    I'd be curious to know, now, whether the OP thinks we've cracked it, or whether he had something else entirely in mind.

    Something else

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    'bus' is formed from the end of the original word, and the other four from the beginning

    bus
    cab
    exam
    gym
    taxi

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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to gerson on Fri May 22 00:01:29 2020
    On 21/05/2020 23:17, gerson wrote:


    "Richard Heathfield"  wrote in message news:ra63na$2gu$1@dont-email.me... >> I'd be curious to know, now, whether the OP thinks we've cracked it,
    or whether he had something else entirely in mind.

    Something else

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    'bus' is formed from the end of the original word, and the other four
    from the beginning

    bus
    cab
    exam
    gym
    taxi

    Damn. I actually spotted that, but I didn't think anything of it. More
    idiot me.

    --
    Richard Heathfield
    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
    Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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