The new Kodak E100 film requires an 81b or 81c in the shade or using flash?
The new Kodak E100 film requires an 81b or 81c in the shade or using flash?
"theyankeesnapper@aol.com" <theyankeesnapper@aol.com> Wrote in message:
The new Kodak E100 film requires an 81b or 81c in the shade or using flash?
Actually after looking at my reference book it.s 81A for shadow or
flash for daylight film but those filters are hard to find
now
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Flashes are daylight balanced, so you don't need a filter for correct color balance. If you didn't use a flash and photographed in the shade, the slide or transparency would just be a bit cool (err to blue.) Back in the day if you were to project thatslide, the minor color shift might matter. Today, unless you are looking for color critical slides to project in an old school projector, don't worry one bit.
On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 7:47:49 AM UTC-7, dimitris tzortzakakis wrote:
"theyankeesnapper@aol.com" <theyankeesnapper@aol.com> Wrote in message:
The new Kodak E100 film requires an 81b or 81c in the shade or using flash? >>>
Actually after looking at my reference book it.s 81A for shadow or
flash for daylight film but those filters are hard to find
now
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On 5/22/2020 9:16 PM, halberst@gmail.com wrote:that slide, the minor color shift might matter. Today, unless you are looking for color critical slides to project in an old school projector, don't worry one bit.
Flashes are daylight balanced, so you don't need a filter for correct color balance. If you didn't use a flash and photographed in the shade, the slide or transparency would just be a bit cool (err to blue.) Back in the day if you were to project
aren't there different color temperatures of daylight?
5000K, 6500K, 9000K, etc.?
On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 7:47:49 AM UTC-7, dimitris tzortzakakis wrote:
"theyankeesnapper@aol.com" <theyankeesnapper@aol.com> Wrote in message: >>> The new Kodak E100 film requires an 81b or 81c in the shade or using flash?
Actually after looking at my reference book it.s 81A for shadow or
flash for daylight film but those filters are hard to find
now
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On 5/24/2020 9:34 AM, halberst@gmail.com wrote:that slide, the minor color shift might matter. Today, unless you are looking for color critical slides to project in an old school projector, don't worry one bit.
On Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 6:31:16 PM UTC-7, dale wrote:
On 5/22/2020 9:16 PM, halberst@gmail.com wrote:
Flashes are daylight balanced, so you don't need a filter for correct color balance. If you didn't use a flash and photographed in the shade, the slide or transparency would just be a bit cool (err to blue.) Back in the day if you were to project
balanced for the artificial lighting of the day. Strobes were balanced to mimic daylight.
aren't there different color temperatures of daylight?
5000K, 6500K, 9000K, etc.?
On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 7:47:49 AM UTC-7, dimitris tzortzakakis wrote:
"theyankeesnapper@aol.com" <theyankeesnapper@aol.com> Wrote in message: >>>>> The new Kodak E100 film requires an 81b or 81c in the shade or using flash?
Actually after looking at my reference book it.s 81A for shadow or
flash for daylight film but those filters are hard to find
now
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Sure, all sorts of colors of light exist under the sun. But back in the day when they were developing color film for the first time (pun ;-) ) they settled on the average color of daylight on a sunny day. Alternatively there was tungsten film
And for precise color corrections you might also need a color meter and CC filters that just add colors by increments (5y, 10m etc.) Minor corrections to color were also necessary when reciprocity failure kicked in addition to exposure.If you wanted correct color before digital, you'd have to use one of those two films, then use filters to correct. The filters you mentioned were for shade, and there were others for florescent lighting, using daylight film under tungsten lights, etc.
by the flash will have the correct color balance, whereas the areas of the photo illuminated by natural light may err to the cool side. If you are using the flash as fill, the differences are likely to be subtle.This may have been a long answer that has little utility to you however. Maybe what you mean is if you're photographing somebody in the shade with daylight film and a flash- what happens to the color balance. The answer is that the areas illuminated
Sorry for the long winded response, does that make sense?
Yes, thank you !
Am I right that different positions of the Sun, ahead and above for instance, have different color temperatures? I can't remember but I
think one is D5000 and the other is D65000
my current endeavors don't get into the professional considerations
--
Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D.
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On Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 6:31:16 PM UTC-7, dale wrote:that slide, the minor color shift might matter. Today, unless you are looking for color critical slides to project in an old school projector, don't worry one bit.
On 5/22/2020 9:16 PM, halberst@gmail.com wrote:
Flashes are daylight balanced, so you don't need a filter for correct color balance. If you didn't use a flash and photographed in the shade, the slide or transparency would just be a bit cool (err to blue.) Back in the day if you were to project
for the artificial lighting of the day. Strobes were balanced to mimic daylight.
aren't there different color temperatures of daylight?
5000K, 6500K, 9000K, etc.?
On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 7:47:49 AM UTC-7, dimitris tzortzakakis wrote:
"theyankeesnapper@aol.com" <theyankeesnapper@aol.com> Wrote in message: >>>>> The new Kodak E100 film requires an 81b or 81c in the shade or using flash?
Actually after looking at my reference book it.s 81A for shadow or
flash for daylight film but those filters are hard to find
now
--
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Sure, all sorts of colors of light exist under the sun. But back in the day when they were developing color film for the first time (pun ;-) ) they settled on the average color of daylight on a sunny day. Alternatively there was tungsten film balanced
If you wanted correct color before digital, you'd have to use one of those two films, then use filters to correct. The filters you mentioned were for shade, and there were others for florescent lighting, using daylight film under tungsten lights, etc.And for precise color corrections you might also need a color meter and CC filters that just add colors by increments (5y, 10m etc.) Minor corrections to color were also necessary when reciprocity failure kicked in addition to exposure.
This may have been a long answer that has little utility to you however. Maybe what you mean is if you're photographing somebody in the shade with daylight film and a flash- what happens to the color balance. The answer is that the areas illuminated bythe flash will have the correct color balance, whereas the areas of the photo illuminated by natural light may err to the cool side. If you are using the flash as fill, the differences are likely to be subtle.
Sorry for the long winded response, does that make sense?
On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 9:31:33 AM UTC-7, dale wrote:that slide, the minor color shift might matter. Today, unless you are looking for color critical slides to project in an old school projector, don't worry one bit.
On 5/24/2020 9:34 AM, halberst@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 6:31:16 PM UTC-7, dale wrote:
On 5/22/2020 9:16 PM, halberst@gmail.com wrote:
Flashes are daylight balanced, so you don't need a filter for correct color balance. If you didn't use a flash and photographed in the shade, the slide or transparency would just be a bit cool (err to blue.) Back in the day if you were to project
balanced for the artificial lighting of the day. Strobes were balanced to mimic daylight.
aren't there different color temperatures of daylight?
5000K, 6500K, 9000K, etc.?
On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 7:47:49 AM UTC-7, dimitris tzortzakakis wrote:
"theyankeesnapper@aol.com" <theyankeesnapper@aol.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>> The new Kodak E100 film requires an 81b or 81c in the shade or using flash?
Actually after looking at my reference book it.s 81A for shadow or >>>>>> flash for daylight film but those filters are hard to find
now
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Sure, all sorts of colors of light exist under the sun. But back in the day when they were developing color film for the first time (pun ;-) ) they settled on the average color of daylight on a sunny day. Alternatively there was tungsten film
And for precise color corrections you might also need a color meter and CC filters that just add colors by increments (5y, 10m etc.) Minor corrections to color were also necessary when reciprocity failure kicked in addition to exposure.
If you wanted correct color before digital, you'd have to use one of those two films, then use filters to correct. The filters you mentioned were for shade, and there were others for florescent lighting, using daylight film under tungsten lights, etc.
by the flash will have the correct color balance, whereas the areas of the photo illuminated by natural light may err to the cool side. If you are using the flash as fill, the differences are likely to be subtle.
This may have been a long answer that has little utility to you however. Maybe what you mean is if you're photographing somebody in the shade with daylight film and a flash- what happens to the color balance. The answer is that the areas illuminated
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Sorry for the long winded response, does that make sense?
Yes, thank you !
Am I right that different positions of the Sun, ahead and above for
instance, have different color temperatures? I can't remember but I
think one is D5000 and the other is D65000
my current endeavors don't get into the professional considerations
--
Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D.
https://www.dalekelly.org/
Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner
Board Certified Alternative Medical Practitioner
Yes, the color of sunlight is warmer as it's lower on the horizon, going into shade is cooler. I found this link that seems to illustrate the issue well: https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/kelvin-scale-breakdown-color-temperature?irgwc=1&utm_term=
On 5/24/20 12:43 PM, halberst@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 9:31:33 AM UTC-7, dale wrote:
On 5/24/2020 9:34 AM, halberst@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 6:31:16 PM UTC-7, dale wrote:
On 5/22/2020 9:16 PM, halberst@gmail.com wrote:
Flashes are daylight balanced, so you don't need a filter for
correct color balance. If you didn't use a flash and photographed
in the shade, the slide or transparency would just be a bit cool
(err to blue.) Back in the day if you were to project that slide,
the minor color shift might matter. Today, unless you are looking
for color critical slides to project in an old school projector,
don't worry one bit.
aren't there different color temperatures of daylight?
5000K, 6500K, 9000K, etc.?
On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 7:47:49 AM UTC-7, dimitris
tzortzakakis wrote:
"theyankeesnapper@aol.com" <theyankeesnapper@aol.com> Wrote in
message:
The new Kodak E100 film requires an 81b or 81c in the shade or >>>>>>>> using flash?
Actually after looking at my reference book it.s 81A for shadow or >>>>>>> flash for daylight film but those filters are hard to find >>>>>>> now
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Sure, all sorts of colors of light exist under the sun. But back in
the day when they were developing color film for the first time (pun
;-) ) they settled on the average color of daylight on a sunny day.
Alternatively there was tungsten film balanced for the artificial
lighting of the day. Strobes were balanced to mimic daylight.
If you wanted correct color before digital, you'd have to use one of
those two films, then use filters to correct. The filters you
mentioned were for shade, and there were others for florescent
lighting, using daylight film under tungsten lights, etc. And for
precise color corrections you might also need a color meter and CC
filters that just add colors by increments (5y, 10m etc.) Minor
corrections to color were also necessary when reciprocity failure
kicked in addition to exposure.
This may have been a long answer that has little utility to you
however. Maybe what you mean is if you're photographing somebody in
the shade with daylight film and a flash- what happens to the color
balance. The answer is that the areas illuminated by the flash will
have the correct color balance, whereas the areas of the photo
illuminated by natural light may err to the cool side. If you are
using the flash as fill, the differences are likely to be subtle.
Sorry for the long winded response, does that make sense?
Yes, thank you !
Am I right that different positions of the Sun, ahead and above for
instance, have different color temperatures? I can't remember but I
think one is D5000 and the other is D65000
my current endeavors don't get into the professional considerations
--
Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D.
https://www.dalekelly.org/
Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner
Board Certified Alternative Medical Practitioner
Yes, the color of sunlight is warmer as it's lower on the horizon,
going into shade is cooler. I found this link that seems to illustrate
the issue well:
https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/kelvin-scale-breakdown-color-temperature?irgwc=1&utm_term=de5bba2d377fa0923bda9cc41f7bcfde&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_source=274393&utm_campaign=admitad%20Shutterstock
Additionally, the surroundings may affect the color. For example, if
your subject is partially illuminated by sunlight reflected from a blue
wall, the subject may have a blue tint.
On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 9:31:33 AM UTC-7, dale wrote:that slide, the minor color shift might matter. Today, unless you are looking for color critical slides to project in an old school projector, don't worry one bit.
On 5/24/2020 9:34 AM, halberst@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 6:31:16 PM UTC-7, dale wrote:
On 5/22/2020 9:16 PM, halberst@gmail.com wrote:
Flashes are daylight balanced, so you don't need a filter for correct color balance. If you didn't use a flash and photographed in the shade, the slide or transparency would just be a bit cool (err to blue.) Back in the day if you were to project
balanced for the artificial lighting of the day. Strobes were balanced to mimic daylight.
aren't there different color temperatures of daylight?
5000K, 6500K, 9000K, etc.?
On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 7:47:49 AM UTC-7, dimitris tzortzakakis wrote:
"theyankeesnapper@aol.com" <theyankeesnapper@aol.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>> The new Kodak E100 film requires an 81b or 81c in the shade or using flash?
Actually after looking at my reference book it.s 81A for shadow or >>>>>> flash for daylight film but those filters are hard to find
now
--
t
----Android NewsGroup Reader----
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Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D.
https://www.dalekelly.org/
Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner
Board Certified Alternative Medical Practitioner
Sure, all sorts of colors of light exist under the sun. But back in the day when they were developing color film for the first time (pun ;-) ) they settled on the average color of daylight on a sunny day. Alternatively there was tungsten film
And for precise color corrections you might also need a color meter and CC filters that just add colors by increments (5y, 10m etc.) Minor corrections to color were also necessary when reciprocity failure kicked in addition to exposure.
If you wanted correct color before digital, you'd have to use one of those two films, then use filters to correct. The filters you mentioned were for shade, and there were others for florescent lighting, using daylight film under tungsten lights, etc.
by the flash will have the correct color balance, whereas the areas of the photo illuminated by natural light may err to the cool side. If you are using the flash as fill, the differences are likely to be subtle.
This may have been a long answer that has little utility to you however. Maybe what you mean is if you're photographing somebody in the shade with daylight film and a flash- what happens to the color balance. The answer is that the areas illuminated
de5bba2d377fa0923bda9cc41f7bcfde&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_source=274393&utm_campaign=admitad%20Shutterstock
Sorry for the long winded response, does that make sense?
Yes, thank you !
Am I right that different positions of the Sun, ahead and above for
instance, have different color temperatures? I can't remember but I
think one is D5000 and the other is D65000
my current endeavors don't get into the professional considerations
--
Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D.
https://www.dalekelly.org/
Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner
Board Certified Alternative Medical Practitioner
Yes, the color of sunlight is warmer as it's lower on the horizon, going into shade is cooler. I found this link that seems to illustrate the issue well: https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/kelvin-scale-breakdown-color-temperature?irgwc=1&utm_term=
The new Kodak E100 film requires an 81b or 81c in the shade or usingflash?
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