• what water to use for mixing chemicals & RA4 papers and chemistry...

    From Dimitris Tzortzakakis@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 12 16:56:11 2022
    I personally use reverse osmosis filtered water to mix chemistry & to
    wash films, for prints I use plain faucet water.
    I was buying my Ra 4 papers and chemistry from macodirect.de, now I got
    an email telling me Fuji discontinued the Crystal Archive paper, the
    last RA 4 paper that came in sheets (and not in rolls).Of course I was a
    bit sad as I had ordered a colourhead enlarger and paraphernalia from
    the UK, which almost cost me an arm and a leg, and they would be
    useless. and then I thought, what the heck! there must be a solution and
    of course I did a google search. and pronto! I can use RA 4 paper from minilabs, and the only drawback would be I would have to cut it in total darkness. and even if Tetenal does discontinue the chemical set I used
    to buy, I can use minilab colour developer/blix replenisher (not
    starter) and develop for one minute in 37,8 C!!! https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52127118648/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52127591775/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52127122083/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52126073902/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52045432025/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52044922611/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52044924031/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52044925536/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52044926761/in/dateposted-public/ the argus beer is necessary for developing good photos!

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  • From Ken Hart@21:1/5 to Dimitris Tzortzakakis on Fri Aug 12 17:21:46 2022
    On 8/12/22 9:56 AM, Dimitris Tzortzakakis wrote:
    I personally use reverse osmosis filtered water to mix chemistry & to
    wash films, for prints I use plain faucet water.
    I was buying my Ra 4 papers and chemistry from macodirect.de, now I got
    an email telling me Fuji discontinued the Crystal Archive paper, the
    last RA 4 paper that came in sheets (and not in rolls).Of course I was a
    bit sad as I had ordered a colourhead enlarger and paraphernalia from
    the UK, which almost cost me an arm and a leg, and they would be
    useless. and then I thought, what the heck! there must be a solution and
    of course I did a google search. and pronto! I can use RA 4 paper from minilabs, and the only drawback would be I would have to cut it in total darkness. and even if Tetenal does discontinue the chemical set I used
    to buy, I can use minilab colour developer/blix replenisher (not
    starter) and develop for one minute in 37,8 C!!! https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52127118648/in/dateposted-public/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52127591775/in/dateposted-public/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52127122083/in/dateposted-public/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52126073902/in/dateposted-public/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52045432025/in/dateposted-public/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52044922611/in/dateposted-public/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52044924031/in/dateposted-public/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52044925536/in/dateposted-public/

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52044926761/in/dateposted-public/

    the argus beer is necessary for developing good photos!

    I haven't bought cut sheet RA-4 paper in years.
    I have an arrangement in my darkroom for cutting roll paper down: the
    paper cutter is fastened to the table top, and I built a holder and
    carefully lined it up with the paper cutter.
    Keep in mind that roll paper will have a curl to it, that gets worse the
    closer you get to the core of the roll. Cut a lot of paper and package
    it tightly. Store it flat or slightly curved the other way.

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    Ken Hart
    kwhart1@centurylink.net

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  • From Abandoned_Trolley@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 12 23:47:08 2022

    I haven't bought cut sheet RA-4 paper in years.
    I have an arrangement in my darkroom for cutting roll paper down: the
    paper cutter is fastened to the table top, and I built a holder and
    carefully lined it up with the paper cutter.
    Keep in mind that roll paper will have a curl to it, that gets worse the closer you get to the core of the roll. Cut a lot of paper and package
    it tightly. Store it flat or slightly curved the other way.


    Is it still possible to buy a "paper safe" or whatever they used to call
    it ? - I got one in Jessops years ago.

    Might be a useful place to put bits of paper cut from a roll so that
    they can uncurl themself.

    Alternatively ... get a heavy enlarging mask ?




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  • From Ken Hart@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 13 23:30:50 2022
    On 8/12/22 6:47 PM, Abandoned_Trolley wrote:


    I haven't bought cut sheet RA-4 paper in years.
    I have an arrangement in my darkroom for cutting roll paper down: the
    paper cutter is fastened to the table top, and I built a holder and
    carefully lined it up with the paper cutter.
    Keep in mind that roll paper will have a curl to it, that gets worse
    the closer you get to the core of the roll. Cut a lot of paper and
    package it tightly. Store it flat or slightly curved the other way.


    Is it still possible to buy a "paper safe" or whatever they used to call
    it ? - I got one in Jessops years ago.

    Might be a useful place to put bits of paper cut from a roll so that
    they can uncurl themself.

    Alternatively   ... get a heavy enlarging mask  ?




    You know those black plastic bags that the enlarging paper came in? I
    never threw any of them away! Every box of cut photo paper I bought for
    the last forty years- I still have the plastic bag!
    Cut your paper from the roll, stack the sheets evenly, then put them in
    one of those plastic bags (actually put one bag inside another, just in
    case.) Then seal them up, and put them in the freezer. Set a half gallon
    of ice cream on top to hold them flat.

    As for new paper safes (Yes, that is the name for them): I have every
    one of those I ever bought, also! I haven't seen one new lately, but I
    haven't looked. In fact, it's been a long time since I've been in a
    store that sells darkroom stuff. Try eBay.

    --
    Ken Hart
    kwhart1@centurylink.net

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  • From Dimitris Tzortzakakis@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 14 17:58:46 2022
    Στις 14/8/2022 6:30 π.μ., ο/η Ken Hart έγραψε:
    On 8/12/22 6:47 PM, Abandoned_Trolley wrote:


    I haven't bought cut sheet RA-4 paper in years.
    I have an arrangement in my darkroom for cutting roll paper down: the
    paper cutter is fastened to the table top, and I built a holder and
    carefully lined it up with the paper cutter.
    Keep in mind that roll paper will have a curl to it, that gets worse
    the closer you get to the core of the roll. Cut a lot of paper and
    package it tightly. Store it flat or slightly curved the other way.


    Is it still possible to buy a "paper safe" or whatever they used to
    call it ? - I got one in Jessops years ago.

    Might be a useful place to put bits of paper cut from a roll so that
    they can uncurl themself.

    Alternatively   ... get a heavy enlarging mask  ?




    You know those black plastic bags that the enlarging paper came in? I
    never threw any of them away! Every box of cut photo paper I bought for
    the last forty years- I still have the plastic bag!
    Cut your paper from the roll, stack the sheets evenly, then put them in
    one of those plastic bags (actually put one bag inside another, just in case.) Then seal them up, and put them in the freezer. Set a half gallon
    of ice cream on top to hold them flat.

    As for new paper safes (Yes, that is the name for them): I have every
    one of those I ever bought, also! I haven't seen one new lately, but I haven't looked. In fact, it's been a long time since I've been in a
    store that sells darkroom stuff. Try eBay.

    thnaks a lot for the answers, we had a darkroom shop here in Iraklion,
    Crete, Greece and not 500 m away from my home!! We had also close the
    Fuji store, and also Drosos who would develop slide film also in large
    format!! All this is gone, alas. I look upon the stuff, see if I can
    have some paper cut for trials or if I have to buy a whole roll.
    As for processing B&W film in a heat wave-I just put the developer
    bottle in the fridge with a thermometer in it, and wait until it hits 20
    C!!!No developer formula has a 30 C developing time, they were designed
    for middle Europe, and not for Crete in a heatwave. the fix & stop
    temperature is not so "mission critical". The good thing is with such a
    hot weather the RA 4 process is much easier!! I just use solar heater water"heliothermo" (which is plenty and free) for the purpose. I still
    remember back in the day where I could buy slide film in bulk lengths
    and TMax 100 in good prices, now there's no bulk lenght slide film and I
    get either Foma in bulk length or Rollei, from macodirect. I also
    recommend secondhanddarkroom (which popped up in a google search) which
    is practically the only option in specialized equipment.

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  • From Dimitris Tzortzakakis@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 2 14:58:52 2022
    Στις 14/8/2022 5:58 μ.μ., ο/η Dimitris Tzortzakakis έγραψε:
    Στις 14/8/2022 6:30 π.μ., ο/η Ken Hart έγραψε:
    On 8/12/22 6:47 PM, Abandoned_Trolley wrote:


    I haven't bought cut sheet RA-4 paper in years.
    I have an arrangement in my darkroom for cutting roll paper down:
    the paper cutter is fastened to the table top, and I built a holder
    and carefully lined it up with the paper cutter.
    Keep in mind that roll paper will have a curl to it, that gets worse
    the closer you get to the core of the roll. Cut a lot of paper and
    package it tightly. Store it flat or slightly curved the other way.


    Is it still possible to buy a "paper safe" or whatever they used to
    call it ? - I got one in Jessops years ago.

    Might be a useful place to put bits of paper cut from a roll so that
    they can uncurl themself.

    Alternatively   ... get a heavy enlarging mask  ?




    You know those black plastic bags that the enlarging paper came in? I
    never threw any of them away! Every box of cut photo paper I bought
    for the last forty years- I still have the plastic bag!
    Cut your paper from the roll, stack the sheets evenly, then put them
    in one of those plastic bags (actually put one bag inside another,
    just in case.) Then seal them up, and put them in the freezer. Set a
    half gallon of ice cream on top to hold them flat.

    As for new paper safes (Yes, that is the name for them): I have every
    one of those I ever bought, also! I haven't seen one new lately, but I
    haven't looked. In fact, it's been a long time since I've been in a
    store that sells darkroom stuff. Try eBay.

    thnaks a lot for the answers, we had a darkroom shop here in Iraklion,
    Crete, Greece and not 500 m away from my home!! We had also close the
    Fuji store, and also Drosos who would develop slide film also in large format!! All this is gone, alas. I look upon the stuff, see if I can
    have some paper cut for trials or if I have to buy a whole roll.
    As for processing B&W film in a heat wave-I just put the developer
    bottle in the fridge with a thermometer in it, and wait until it hits 20 C!!!No developer formula has a 30 C developing time, they were designed
    for middle Europe, and not for Crete in a heatwave. the fix & stop temperature is not so "mission critical". The good thing is with such a
    hot weather the RA 4 process is much easier!! I just use solar heater water"heliothermo" (which is plenty and free) for the purpose. I still remember back in the day where I could buy slide film in bulk lengths
    and TMax 100 in good prices, now there's no bulk lenght slide film and I
    get either Foma in bulk length or Rollei, from macodirect. I also
    recommend secondhanddarkroom (which popped up in a google search) which
    is practically the only option in specialized equipment.
    update: bought a box of 8X10" papers from the UK, cost was about 120
    euros with taxes etc. They're made in the UK that means the germans who
    were buying from a Holland factory and were out of stock was a different
    kettle of fish. It seems the UK factory won't sell to the germans!!!
    anyway had good results the good thing is my camera produces good
    negatives that means once I have found the right filtration for a given
    film I can print practically any negative from this film with this
    setting. Here you can see I trasferred the cocentrates to smaller, 200
    ml bottles, the set cost 1,20 euros. I have bought another set of
    bottles for 100 ml when I prepare the next batch of chemicals. https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52399153424/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/167258532@N02/52398350982/in/dateposted-public/

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