• Today at Morro Bay felt more Like Winter

    From Savageduck@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 6 19:41:07 2021
    Today at Morro Bay was very different to the summer like days of the last two weeks. Today It was downright frigid, and getting socked in. That said, it was still a good opportunity to fly the DJI Air 2S around the Bay.

    <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2-Work-2021/i-rJTZFFZ/0/9dcde9a0/1920/Morro%20Bay%20December%2006%20copy-1920.mp4>

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    Regards,
    Savageduck

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to Savageduck on Tue Dec 7 08:42:33 2021
    On Monday, 6 December 2021 at 22:41:18 UTC-5, Savageduck wrote:
    Today at Morro Bay was very different to the summer like days of the last two weeks. Today It was downright frigid, and getting socked in. That said, it was still a good opportunity to fly the DJI Air 2S around the Bay.

    <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2-Work-2021/i-rJTZFFZ/0/9dcde9a0/1920/Morro%20Bay%20December%2006%20copy-1920.mp4>

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    Regards,
    Savageduck

    "G-g-global w-warming!"

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to RichA on Tue Dec 7 11:45:44 2021
    In article <7a0ef102-ab85-4c9c-9b1d-3a47bcf66568n@googlegroups.com>,
    RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

    Today It was downright frigid, and getting socked in.


    "G-g-global w-warming!"

    global warming is not the same as weather.

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  • From Savageduck@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 7 11:51:39 2021
    On Dec 7, 2021, RichA wrote
    (in article<7a0ef102-ab85-4c9c-9b1d-3a47bcf66568n@googlegroups.com>):

    On Monday, 6 December 2021 at 22:41:18 UTC-5, Savageduck wrote:
    Today at Morro Bay was very different to the summer like days of the last two weeks. Today It was downright frigid, and getting socked in. That said, it was still a good opportunity to fly the DJI Air 2S around the Bay.

    <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2-Work-2021/i-rJTZFFZ/0/9dcde9a0/1920/Morro%20Bay%20December%2006%20copy-1920.mp4>

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    Regards,
    Savageduck

    "G-g-global w-warming!”

    We are experiencing serious consequences of climate change in the West, just because I commented on how one day felt is little reason to trigger your skeptical sarcasm.What you might be experiencing in your Canadian Winter might be quite different to
    what others witness.

    We have a serious continuing drought in the West with little sign of relief. What rain has fallen in California this year has done little to replenish the reservoirs. The dams which depend on spring snow melt from the Winter snow pack have seen little to
    no snow in the Sierras. The ski resorts in the Sierras, and other parts of the West have seen little to no snow, and many of those which use man made snow have not been able to use their machines due to high temperatures.

    <https://www.usnews.com/news/news/articles/2021-12-03/wheres-the-snow-rockies-winter-starts-with-a-whimper>
    <https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/12/03/snow-water-resources-california/>

    So yes we have global warming, and I was complaining about an unusually frigid 47ºF when lately we have been experiencing unseasonal temperatures in the 74-82ºF range.

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    Savageduck

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  • From Savageduck@21:1/5 to nospam on Tue Dec 7 12:02:52 2021
    On 2021-12-07 19:56:11 +0000, nospam said:

    In article <0001HW.275FF2CB0185852770000AC8E38F@news.giganews.com>, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

    So yes we have global warming, and I was complaining about an unusually
    frigid 47ºF

    that's not frigid.

    I guess you missed my bit of hyperbolic sarcasm. I do know what truly
    frigid is.

    when lately we have been experiencing unseasonal temperatures in the
    74-82ºF range.

    that's perfect.

    Perfect, but unseasonal.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Savageduck on Tue Dec 7 14:56:11 2021
    In article <0001HW.275FF2CB0185852770000AC8E38F@news.giganews.com>,
    Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

    So yes we have global warming, and I was complaining about an unusually frigid 47F

    that's not frigid.

    when lately we have been experiencing unseasonal temperatures in the 74-82F range.

    that's perfect.

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  • From Whisky-dave@21:1/5 to Savageduck on Wed Dec 8 05:29:36 2021
    On Tuesday, 7 December 2021 at 20:03:02 UTC, Savageduck wrote:
    On 2021-12-07 19:56:11 +0000, nospam said:

    In article <0001HW.275FF2CB01...@news.giganews.com>,
    Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

    So yes we have global warming, and I was complaining about an unusually >> frigid 47ºF

    that's not frigid.
    I guess you missed my bit of hyperbolic sarcasm. I do know what truly
    frigid is.

    when lately we have been experiencing unseasonal temperatures in the
    74-82ºF range.

    that's perfect.
    Perfect, but unseasonal.

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    Regards,
    Savageduck

    Bloody Fahrenheit all I can quickly work out is how warmer or colder it is to the typical
    temerature of developer I used which was 20C = 68f
    So around 1C up or down is about 2f up or down around the 20C
    but after about 10 C it gets a bit more difficult !

    Why the USA and a few other remaining countries still us F , I don't really know,
    maybe something to do with old dogs and new tricks.... :-)

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  • From Magani@21:1/5 to Whisky-dave on Wed Dec 8 16:45:50 2021
    On Wednesday, 8 December 2021 at 11:29:39 pm UTC+10, Whisky-dave wrote:

    Bloody Fahrenheit all I can quickly work out is how warmer or colder it is to the typical
    temerature of developer I used which was 20C = 68f
    So around 1C up or down is about 2f up or down around the 20C
    but after about 10 C it gets a bit more difficult !

    Why the USA and a few other remaining countries still us F , I don't really know,
    maybe something to do with old dogs and new tricks.... :-)

    A quick way -
    F -> C
    * Take degs F (let's say 100° because that's what it feels like here today)
    * Subtract 30 (yes I know it's supposed to be 32 but this is something to do in your head) - 70
    * Halve it - 35
    * Add 10% (3.5 rounded however you want) = 38-ish.
    (The 'real' answer is 37.7°C)
    Close enough for government work.

    For our Trans-Atlantic/Pacific cousins who still use F, the other way is
    F
    * Take degs C (say 10C)
    * Double it - 20
    * Take off 10% - 20-2 = 18
    * Add 32 (or 30 if your mental gymnastic ability is getting old) = 50°F

    Easy! :-)

    Cheers,
    Magani

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  • From m-m@21:1/5 to Magani on Wed Dec 8 20:55:31 2021
    In article <4fd5ec12-19bb-4e6c-be78-a57add385acen@googlegroups.com>, Magani <cdsross@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, 8 December 2021 at 11:29:39 pm UTC+10, Whisky-dave wrote:

    Bloody Fahrenheit all I can quickly work out is how warmer or colder it is to the typical
    temerature of developer I used which was 20C = 68f
    So around 1C up or down is about 2f up or down around the 20C
    but after about 10 C it gets a bit more difficult !

    Why the USA and a few other remaining countries still us F , I don't really know,
    maybe something to do with old dogs and new tricks.... :-)

    A quick way -
    F -> C
    * Take degs F (let's say 100 because that's what it feels like here today)
    * Subtract 30 (yes I know it's supposed to be 32 but this is something to do in your head) - 70
    * Halve it - 35
    * Add 10% (3.5 rounded however you want) = 38-ish.
    (The 'real' answer is 37.7C)
    Close enough for government work.

    For our Trans-Atlantic/Pacific cousins who still use F, the other way is
    F
    * Take degs C (say 10C)
    * Double it - 20
    * Take off 10% - 20-2 = 18
    * Add 32 (or 30 if your mental gymnastic ability is getting old) = 50F

    Easy! :-)

    Cheers,
    Magani

    Just ask your phone

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  • From Whisky-dave@21:1/5 to Magani on Thu Dec 9 05:10:37 2021
    On Thursday, 9 December 2021 at 00:45:53 UTC, Magani wrote:
    On Wednesday, 8 December 2021 at 11:29:39 pm UTC+10, Whisky-dave wrote:

    Bloody Fahrenheit all I can quickly work out is how warmer or colder it is to the typical
    temerature of developer I used which was 20C = 68f
    So around 1C up or down is about 2f up or down around the 20C
    but after about 10 C it gets a bit more difficult !

    Why the USA and a few other remaining countries still us F , I don't really know,
    maybe something to do with old dogs and new tricks.... :-)
    A quick way -
    F -> C
    * Take degs F (let's say 100° because that's what it feels like here today) * Subtract 30 (yes I know it's supposed to be 32 but this is something to do in your head) - 70
    * Halve it - 35
    * Add 10% (3.5 rounded however you want) = 38-ish.
    (The 'real' answer is 37.7°C)
    Close enough for government work.

    For our Trans-Atlantic/Pacific cousins who still use F, the other way is C->F
    * Take degs C (say 10C)
    * Double it - 20
    * Take off 10% - 20-2 = 18
    * Add 32 (or 30 if your mental gymnastic ability is getting old) = 50°F

    Easy! :-)

    Cheers,
    Magani

    Why not use C like most of the world, it makes more sense
    0C freezing point of water 100C boiling point of water , pretty easy.
    of coure ideally we'd use kelvin

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Whisky-dave on Thu Dec 9 08:25:54 2021
    In article <f04d81b9-d580-49d1-8efa-bd78b944385en@googlegroups.com>, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

    Why not use C like most of the world, it makes more sense
    0C freezing point of water 100C boiling point of water , pretty easy.
    of coure ideally we'd use kelvin

    what's even easier is f, which is designed for humans.

    0f is really cold and 100f is really hot.

    that's much easier than remembering -17c and 38c, which to humans is
    totally arbitrary.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to RichA on Thu Dec 9 10:52:33 2021
    In article <35512c8d-53f7-432b-9819-6af85fada86an@googlegroups.com>,
    RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

    In article <7a0ef102-ab85-4c9c...@googlegroups.com>,
    RichA <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
    "G-g-global w-warming!"

    global warming is not the same as weather.

    Yes, we know;

    'we' do, however, you clearly do not.

    which is why any weather event is discounted from data UNLESS
    it supports "the agenda."

    rubbish.

    This is also why the clowns screech "global warming" when there is a 100 year storm, because it's just "weather?"

    no.

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to nospam on Thu Dec 9 07:46:09 2021
    On Tuesday, 7 December 2021 at 11:45:50 UTC-5, nospam wrote:
    In article <7a0ef102-ab85-4c9c...@googlegroups.com>,
    RichA <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Today It was downright frigid, and getting socked in.


    "G-g-global w-warming!"

    global warming is not the same as weather.

    Yes, we know; which is why any weather event is discounted from data UNLESS it supports "the agenda."
    This is also why the clowns screech "global warming" when there is a 100 year storm, because it's just "weather?"

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  • From Savageduck@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 9 09:30:17 2021
    On Dec 9, 2021, Whisky-dave wrote
    (in article<f04d81b9-d580-49d1-8efa-bd78b944385en@googlegroups.com>):

    On Thursday, 9 December 2021 at 00:45:53 UTC, Magani wrote:
    On Wednesday, 8 December 2021 at 11:29:39 pm UTC+10, Whisky-dave wrote:

    Bloody Fahrenheit all I can quickly work out is how warmer or colder it is to the typical
    temerature of developer I used which was 20C = 68f
    So around 1C up or down is about 2f up or down around the 20C
    but after about 10 C it gets a bit more difficult !

    Why the USA and a few other remaining countries still us F , I don't really know,
    maybe something to do with old dogs and new tricks.... :-)
    A quick way -
    F -> C
    * Take degs F (let's say 100° because that's what it feels like here today)
    * Subtract 30 (yes I know it's supposed to be 32 but this is something to do in your head) - 70
    * Halve it - 35
    * Add 10% (3.5 rounded however you want) = 38-ish.
    (The 'real' answer is 37.7°C)
    Close enough for government work.

    For our Trans-Atlantic/Pacific cousins who still use F, the other way is C->F
    * Take degs C (say 10C)
    * Double it - 20
    * Take off 10% - 20-2 = 18
    * Add 32 (or 30 if your mental gymnastic ability is getting old) = 50°F

    Easy! :-)

    Cheers,
    Magani

    Why not use C like most of the world, it makes more sense
    0C freezing point of water 100C boiling point of water , pretty easy.
    of coure ideally we'd use kelvin

    To Hell with it!

    I post my drone video work to this NG much as I did my photography, I thought it might be of some interest to somebody in the world of digital imagery/photography/videography. Unfortunately you seem to be more interested in the world of mind-fuckery.

    I used Fahrenheit because that is how temperatures are reported here.Sometimes I might state both ºF and ºC sometimes not. If you have a problem with that I really don’t care.

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    Regards,
    Savageduck

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Savageduck on Sat Dec 11 10:37:43 2021
    On 2021-12-06 22:41, Savageduck wrote:
    Today at Morro Bay was very different to the summer like days of the last two weeks. Today It was downright frigid, and getting socked in. That said, it was still a good opportunity to fly the DJI Air 2S around the Bay.

    <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2-Work-2021/i-rJTZFFZ/0/9dcde9a0/1920/Morro%20Bay%20December%2006%20copy-1920.mp4>

    I like that better than most sunny day vids. But kinda getting bored
    with that location ...


    --
    "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
    man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
    -Samuel Clemens

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to RichA on Sat Dec 11 10:38:34 2021
    On 2021-12-09 10:46, RichA wrote:
    On Tuesday, 7 December 2021 at 11:45:50 UTC-5, nospam wrote:
    In article <7a0ef102-ab85-4c9c...@googlegroups.com>,
    RichA <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Today It was downright frigid, and getting socked in.


    "G-g-global w-warming!"

    global warming is not the same as weather.

    Yes, we know; which is why any weather event is discounted from data UNLESS it supports "the agenda."
    This is also why the clowns screech "global warming" when there is a 100 year storm, because it's just "weather?"

    From that little minded rant, you're the one with the agenda


    --
    "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
    man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
    -Samuel Clemens

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Savageduck on Sat Dec 11 10:39:23 2021
    On 2021-12-07 14:51, Savageduck wrote:
    On Dec 7, 2021, RichA wrote
    (in article<7a0ef102-ab85-4c9c-9b1d-3a47bcf66568n@googlegroups.com>):

    On Monday, 6 December 2021 at 22:41:18 UTC-5, Savageduck wrote:
    Today at Morro Bay was very different to the summer like days of the last two weeks. Today It was downright frigid, and getting socked in. That said, it was still a good opportunity to fly the DJI Air 2S around the Bay.

    <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2-Work-2021/i-rJTZFFZ/0/9dcde9a0/1920/Morro%20Bay%20December%2006%20copy-1920.mp4>

    --
    Regards,
    Savageduck

    "G-g-global w-warming!”

    We are experiencing serious consequences of climate change in the West, just because...


    RichA doesn't do well with inconvenient facts...


    --
    "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
    man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
    -Samuel Clemens

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  • From Savageduck@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sat Dec 11 15:58:19 2021
    On Dec 11, 2021, Alan Browne wrote
    (in article <bB3tJ.45439$xe2.37756@fx16.iad>):

    On 2021-12-06 22:41, Savageduck wrote:
    Today at Morro Bay was very different to the summer like days of the last two weeks. Today It was downright frigid, and getting socked in. That said, it was still a good opportunity to fly the DJI Air 2S around the Bay.

    <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2-Work-2021/i-rJTZFFZ/0/9dcde9a0/1920/Morro%20Bay%20December%2006%20copy-1920.mp4>

    I like that better than most sunny day vids. But kinda getting bored
    with that location ...

    Perhaps, but I enjoy the drive to Morro Bay, and the opportunity to fly it affords me.

    I will see what other locations i can dig up. Unfortunately my travelingof late has been limited, so I deliver what is convenient for me.

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    Regards,
    Savageduck

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to newshound on Sun Dec 12 09:53:09 2021
    On 2021-12-12 09:43, newshound wrote:
    On 11/12/2021 15:37, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2021-12-06 22:41, Savageduck wrote:
    Today at Morro Bay was very different to the summer like days of the
    last two weeks. Today It was downright frigid, and getting socked in.
    That said, it was still a good opportunity to fly the DJI Air 2S
    around the Bay.

    <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2-Work-2021/i-rJTZFFZ/0/9dcde9a0/1920/Morro%20Bay%20December%2006%20copy-1920.mp4>


    I like that better than most sunny day vids.  But kinda getting bored
    with that location ...


    For Facebook users, can I suggest "Isle of Man by Drone", particularly
    for the stills.

    Facebook? People still being used by that?

    --
    "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
    man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
    -Samuel Clemens

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  • From newshound@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sun Dec 12 14:43:03 2021
    On 11/12/2021 15:37, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2021-12-06 22:41, Savageduck wrote:
    Today at Morro Bay was very different to the summer like days of the
    last two weeks. Today It was downright frigid, and getting socked in.
    That said, it was still a good opportunity to fly the DJI Air 2S
    around the Bay.

    <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2-Work-2021/i-rJTZFFZ/0/9dcde9a0/1920/Morro%20Bay%20December%2006%20copy-1920.mp4>


    I like that better than most sunny day vids.  But kinda getting bored
    with that location ...


    For Facebook users, can I suggest "Isle of Man by Drone", particularly
    for the stills.

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  • From newshound@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sun Dec 12 15:48:44 2021
    On 12/12/2021 14:53, Alan Browne wrote:


    Facebook?  People still being used by that?

    YMMV but in the UK the local groups can be very useful for things like
    lost and found cats, dogs, and keys, information about road closures,
    bus cancellations (a big thing at the moment since our local company
    can't get enough drivers even without Covid, and some people rely on
    them for getting to work or school). You may have other platforms.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to sradcliffe544@gmail.com on Sun Dec 12 12:03:25 2021
    In article <sp55kr$chn$1@dont-email.me>, newshound
    <sradcliffe544@gmail.com> wrote:


    Facebook? People still being used by that?

    YMMV but in the UK the local groups can be very useful for things like
    lost and found cats, dogs, and keys, information about road closures,
    bus cancellations (a big thing at the moment since our local company
    can't get enough drivers even without Covid, and some people rely on
    them for getting to work or school). You may have other platforms.

    mark zuckerberg loves you.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to nospam on Sun Dec 12 18:38:55 2021
    On 12/12/2021 17:03, nospam wrote:
    In article <sp55kr$chn$1@dont-email.me>, newshound
    <sradcliffe544@gmail.com> wrote:


    Facebook?  People still being used by that?

    YMMV but in the UK the local groups can be very useful for things like
    lost and found cats, dogs, and keys, information about road closures,
    bus cancellations (a big thing at the moment since our local company
    can't get enough drivers even without Covid, and some people rely on
    them for getting to work or school). You may have other platforms.

    mark zuckerberg loves you.

    Great British Survey 2021

    Unredacted is conducting the annual Great British Survey and you have
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    https://survey.alchemer.eu/s3/90375351/Unredacted-Great-British-Survey-2021

    This is your chance to have a say on important issues that impact our
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    YOUR answers will represent the views of people who live in your area.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to DavidB@invalid.E-S on Sun Dec 12 14:28:53 2021
    In article <sp5fjv$rgn$2@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:

    Unredacted is conducting

    once again, you are trying to hijack usenet threads.



    YOUR answers will represent the views of people who live in your area.

    the views of usenet readers in every area are that you should depart
    the planet and not return. some would say solar system, just to be
    safe.

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  • From Savageduck@21:1/5 to nospam on Sun Dec 12 13:03:07 2021
    On Dec 12, 2021, nospam wrote
    (in article<121220211428537627%nospam@nospam.invalid>):

    In article<sp5fjv$rgn$2@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:

    Unredacted is conducting

    once again, you are trying to hijack usenet threads.

    My filters & kill file have given me aUseNet experience mostly free of “Boater Dave”. Thread hijacking was/is one of his typical M.O.s. The only time I see one of his scribblings now, is if it is quoted in an unwitting response.

    --
    Regards,
    Savageduck

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  • From John Smith@21:1/5 to Savageduck on Sun Dec 12 23:21:28 2021
    On 12/12/2021 21:03, Savageduck wrote:
    On Dec 12, 2021, nospam wrote
    (in article<121220211428537627%nospam@nospam.invalid>):

    In article<sp5fjv$rgn$2@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>, David Brooks
    <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:

    Unredacted is conducting

    once again, you are trying to hijack usenet threads.

    My filters & kill file have given me aUseNet experience mostly free of “Boater Dave”. Thread hijacking was/is one of his typical M.O.s. The only time I see one of his scribblings now, is if it is quoted in an unwitting response.

    Boater Dave has been very impressed with the videos you have produced.

    He suggests that you spend a little more time filming the seals - at the
    power station end of the waterway.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 12 18:46:08 2021
    In article <sp605o$966$1@gioia.aioe.org>, John Smith <JS@AIOE.invalid>
    wrote:


    My filters & kill file have given me aUseNet experience mostly free of Boater Dave. Thread hijacking was/is one of his typical M.O.s. The only time I see one of his scribblings now, is if it is quoted in an unwitting response.

    Boater Dave has been very impressed with the videos you have produced.

    He suggests that you spend a little more time filming the seals - at the power station end of the waterway.

    obvious forge. you're not fooling anyone.

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  • From Whisky-dave@21:1/5 to newshound on Mon Dec 13 05:19:41 2021
    On Sunday, 12 December 2021 at 15:48:48 UTC, newshound wrote:
    On 12/12/2021 14:53, Alan Browne wrote:


    Facebook? People still being used by that?

    YMMV but in the UK the local groups can be very useful for things like
    lost and found cats, dogs, and keys, information about road closures,
    bus cancellations (a big thing at the moment since our local company
    can't get enough drivers even without Covid, and some people rely on
    them for getting to work or school). You may have other platforms.

    One post yesterday was someone shown steeling a recycle wheelie bin.
    via the ring.comdoor bell 'footage'

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  • From Whisky-dave@21:1/5 to Savageduck on Mon Dec 13 05:17:05 2021
    On Thursday, 9 December 2021 at 17:30:27 UTC, Savageduck wrote:
    On Dec 9, 2021, Whisky-dave wrote
    (in article<f04d81b9-d580-49d1...@googlegroups.com>):
    On Thursday, 9 December 2021 at 00:45:53 UTC, Magani wrote:
    On Wednesday, 8 December 2021 at 11:29:39 pm UTC+10, Whisky-dave wrote:

    Bloody Fahrenheit all I can quickly work out is how warmer or colder it is to the typical
    temerature of developer I used which was 20C = 68f
    So around 1C up or down is about 2f up or down around the 20C
    but after about 10 C it gets a bit more difficult !

    Why the USA and a few other remaining countries still us F , I don't really know,
    maybe something to do with old dogs and new tricks.... :-)
    A quick way -
    F -> C
    * Take degs F (let's say 100° because that's what it feels like here today)
    * Subtract 30 (yes I know it's supposed to be 32 but this is something to do in your head) - 70
    * Halve it - 35
    * Add 10% (3.5 rounded however you want) = 38-ish.
    (The 'real' answer is 37.7°C)
    Close enough for government work.

    For our Trans-Atlantic/Pacific cousins who still use F, the other way is C->F
    * Take degs C (say 10C)
    * Double it - 20
    * Take off 10% - 20-2 = 18
    * Add 32 (or 30 if your mental gymnastic ability is getting old) = 50°F

    Easy! :-)

    Cheers,
    Magani

    Why not use C like most of the world, it makes more sense
    0C freezing point of water 100C boiling point of water , pretty easy.
    of coure ideally we'd use kelvin
    To Hell with it!

    I post my drone video work to this NG much as I did my photography, I thought it might be of some interest to somebody in the world of digital imagery/photography/videography. Unfortunately you seem to be more interested in the world of mind-fuckery.

    I used Fahrenheit because that is how temperatures are reported here.Sometimes I might state both ºF and ºC sometimes not. If you have a problem with that I really don’t care.

    --
    Regards,
    Savageduck

    Not a problem just not very logical for most of the world, and of course F not what I'm used to since I was about 10
    wondering why water didn;t biol in my dads greenhouse.
    On another NG someone claimed that 5 deg was twice as cold as 10 deg.
    We all (well most of us) measure the focal lenght of lenses in mm , why don't we use inchs ?.
    Penis size seems always to be quoted in inches.
    As for the distance a drone travels should it be miles, KM or a Nautical mile. As for a drones height feet or Metres is ok above the ground but quoting it above sea level
    may give a false impression.
    The there's drink, wine in ml, but beer and ale in pints in the UK anyway.
    Coke in 250ml or 330ml cans.
    Yesterday at home I was using old BA size screws so ~1.8mm diameter, today at work I have M8 which is 8mm
    diameter, but our wood screws No.8 are about 4mm.

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  • From Whisky-dave@21:1/5 to nospam on Mon Dec 13 05:27:54 2021
    On Sunday, 12 December 2021 at 23:46:14 UTC, nospam wrote:
    In article <sp605o$966$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, John Smith <J...@AIOE.invalid> wrote:

    My filters & kill file have given me aUseNet experience mostly free of ³Boater Dave². Thread hijacking was/is one of his typical M.O.s. The only
    time I see one of his scribblings now, is if it is quoted in an unwitting
    response.

    Boater Dave has been very impressed with the videos you have produced.

    He suggests that you spend a little more time filming the seals - at the power station end of the waterway.
    obvious forge. you're not fooling anyone.

    An interesting point is that seals are easily disturbed, in teh UK the public are asked to stay a certain distance from
    them when viewing or taking photos, so a drone could be used I guess but you'd have to know something
    about the sound levels at a certain distance you drone will make.

    I guess most are used to dBs but I prefer my own unit of measurement which is a fart in a church in he next pew ;-)

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to nospam on Mon Dec 13 16:07:29 2021
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    In article <sp605o$966$1@gioia.aioe.org>, John Smith <JS@AIOE.invalid>
    wrote:


    My filters & kill file have given me aUseNet experience mostly free of "Boater Dave". Thread hijacking was/is one of his typical M.O.s. The only time I see one of his scribblings now, is if it is quoted in an unwitting response.

    Boater Dave has been very impressed with the videos you have produced.

    He suggests that you spend a little more time filming the seals - at the power station end of the waterway.

    obvious forge. you're not fooling anyone.

    You've probably noticed he's using that on u.c.s.m. along with 'John
    Doe' and 'Joe'.

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Whisky-dave on Mon Dec 13 12:10:56 2021
    On 2021-12-13 08:17, Whisky-dave wrote:

    On another NG someone claimed that 5 deg was twice as cold as 10 deg.

    A lot of people make this error. Appreciation of units is not universal.

    We all (well most of us) measure the focal lenght of lenses in mm , why don't we use inchs ?.
    Penis size seems always to be quoted in inches.
    As for the distance a drone travels should it be miles, KM or a Nautical mile.

    Metres is better for hobby / photography drones. In Canada, private
    flight is prohibited beyond 500m distance. A "quarter NM" doesn't mean
    much to most people. (Actually max distance is where it is visible to
    the operator or 500m, whichever is the lesser), max height is ... in
    feet (due to aviation units used for that).

    As for a drones height feet or Metres is ok above the ground but quoting it above sea level
    may give a false impression.

    Drone laws are absolute feet (or metres) above the surface in most
    places. North American aviation maps are in feet, most references are
    MSL, some are AGL depending on the reference (and many have both such as
    tower and other obstacle heights).

    The there's drink, wine in ml, but beer and ale in pints in the UK anyway.

    Tradition in the UK. North America is mixed US ounces or ml (litres),
    though in the US you'll see US gallons, quarts, pints as well.

    The legal system of weights and measures in the US has been metric since
    1895 (ish) with the exception that "commerce" could continue in Imperial
    and US units. Stubborn American commerce just stuck to easy for most
    things and Americans generally don't care much. Science classes use metric.

    OTOH, the US military and many (most) US gov't agencies are highly
    metricized.

    Coke in 250ml or 330ml cans.
    Yesterday at home I was using old BA size screws so ~1.8mm diameter, today at work I have M8 which is 8mm
    diameter, but our wood screws No.8 are about 4mm.

    Can't get to metric fast enough. A CONservative government here
    (Canada), (20+ years ago) let a lot of metric requirements be optional.
    So produce, meat is sold in both units. Really silly, but that's what CONservatives do for their backward facing base.

    The US is in good company worldwide ... Myanmar and Liberia.

    --
    "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
    man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
    -Samuel Clemens

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Whisky-dave on Mon Dec 13 12:12:07 2021
    On 2021-12-13 08:27, Whisky-dave wrote:
    On Sunday, 12 December 2021 at 23:46:14 UTC, nospam wrote:
    In article <sp605o$966$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, John Smith <J...@AIOE.invalid> >> wrote:

    My filters & kill file have given me aUseNet experience mostly free of >>>> ³Boater Dave². Thread hijacking was/is one of his typical M.O.s. The only
    time I see one of his scribblings now, is if it is quoted in an unwitting >>>> response.

    Boater Dave has been very impressed with the videos you have produced.

    He suggests that you spend a little more time filming the seals - at the >>> power station end of the waterway.
    obvious forge. you're not fooling anyone.

    An interesting point is that seals are easily disturbed, in teh UK the public are asked to stay a certain distance from
    them when viewing or taking photos, so a drone could be used I guess but you'd have to know something
    about the sound levels at a certain distance you drone will make.

    I've flown within metres of deer in the wild, they don't react much to
    it. Not in their enemy database.

    --
    "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
    man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
    -Samuel Clemens

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to alfred_molon@yahoo.com on Mon Dec 13 13:08:52 2021
    In article <IWLtJ.424017$yAUb.274188@fx13.ams1>, Alfred Molon <alfred_molon@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I wonder why instead of mm they don't just quote the FOV (in degrees) of
    a lens.

    because nearly all interchangeable lens cameras were 35mm, so the focal
    length became the metric to determine it.

    build a time machine, go back in time and remedy the error.

    Knowing that the lens of a smartphone has 5mm focal length tells me nothing.

    that's why it's specified in both actual focal length and 35mm
    equivalent.

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  • From Alfred Molon@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 13 19:04:24 2021
    I wonder why instead of mm they don't just quote the FOV (in degrees) of
    a lens.

    Knowing that the lens of a smartphone has 5mm focal length tells me nothing.
    --
    Alfred Molon

    Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at
    https://groups.io/g/myolympus
    https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Alan B on Mon Dec 13 22:58:51 2021
    On 13/12/2021 16:07, Alan B wrote:
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    In article <sp605o$966$1@gioia.aioe.org>, John Smith <JS@AIOE.invalid>
    wrote:


    My filters & kill file have given me aUseNet experience mostly free of >>>> "Boater Dave". Thread hijacking was/is one of his typical M.O.s. The only >>>> time I see one of his scribblings now, is if it is quoted in an unwitting >>>> response.

    Boater Dave has been very impressed with the videos you have produced.

    He suggests that you spend a little more time filming the seals - at the >>> power station end of the waterway.

    obvious forge. you're not fooling anyone.

    You've probably noticed he's using that on u.c.s.m. along with 'John
    Doe' and 'Joe'.

    If you'd simply be civil and polite there would be no need to use either!

    Btw, I thought it was John Smith - I'll have to check.

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  • From Whisky-dave@21:1/5 to Alfred Molon on Tue Dec 14 05:23:17 2021
    On Monday, 13 December 2021 at 18:04:30 UTC, Alfred Molon wrote:
    I wonder why instead of mm they don't just quote the FOV (in degrees) of
    a lens.

    It does make me wonder as it would be logical.

    At least they didn't use the width of a horses arse like they did for rail track widths ;-)
    unless that is some urban myth.

    The first camera I ever held had 120 film in it either 8 or 12 shots on a roll depending on the size you wanted,
    think it was 2 1/4 x 2 1/4 or 2 1/4 x 3 1/2 .

    Also remember how to roll the film on until the number showed through the little dark red window
    on the back of the camera.

    when buying my first SLR in the 70s seemed the standard lens was 50mm although a few were 55mm and the zenit was 58mm I think.
    Fot interchangable lens camers but for fixed it seemed to be closer to 40mm




    Knowing that the lens of a smartphone has 5mm focal length tells me nothing.

    well when I buy a phone I dont; really think about the focal lenght of the lens.
    It is what it is I can;t change it so I likke it or lump it is the expression. But cameras in most phones are pretty impressive provided you dont over expect when enlarging the result.


    --
    Alfred Molon

    Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at
    https://groups.io/g/myolympus
    https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

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  • From newshound@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Tue Dec 14 16:09:13 2021
    On 13/12/2021 17:12, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2021-12-13 08:27, Whisky-dave wrote:
    On Sunday, 12 December 2021 at 23:46:14 UTC, nospam wrote:
    In article <sp605o$966$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, John Smith
    <J...@AIOE.invalid>
    wrote:

    My filters & kill file have given me aUseNet experience mostly free of >>>>> ³Boater Dave². Thread hijacking was/is one of his typical M.O.s.
    The only
    time I see one of his scribblings now, is if it is quoted in an
    unwitting
    response.

    Boater Dave has been very impressed with the videos you have produced. >>>>
    He suggests that you spend a little more time filming the seals - at
    the
    power station end of the waterway.
    obvious forge. you're not fooling anyone.

      An interesting point is that seals are easily disturbed, in teh UK
    the public are asked to stay a certain distance from
    them when viewing or taking photos, so a drone could be used I guess
    but you'd have to know something
    about the sound levels at a certain distance  you drone will make.

    I've flown within metres of deer in the wild, they don't react much to
    it.  Not in their enemy database.

    Yes, I guess to a seal a drone would be no more malign than a seagull.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Whisky-dave on Tue Dec 14 11:16:03 2021
    On 2021-12-14 08:23, Whisky-dave wrote:

    At least they didn't use the width of a horses arse like they did for rail track widths ;-)
    unless that is some urban myth.

    Myth. But it's a fun to trace the space shuttle booster rocket
    dimensions to the distance between two roman chariot pulling horse's
    anus' ...

    Look up Stephenson Gauge for the real story.

    --
    "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
    man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
    -Samuel Clemens

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  • From Whisky-dave@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Wed Dec 15 05:09:41 2021
    On Tuesday, 14 December 2021 at 16:16:09 UTC, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2021-12-14 08:23, Whisky-dave wrote:

    At least they didn't use the width of a horses arse like they did for rail track widths ;-)
    unless that is some urban myth.
    Myth. But it's a fun to trace the space shuttle booster rocket
    dimensions to the distance between two roman chariot pulling horse's
    anus' ...

    Look up Stephenson Gauge for the real story.

    So not entiley untrue, but related to horses.

    Stephenson's Stockton and Darlington railway (S&DR) was built primarily to transport coal from mines near Shildon to the port at Stockton-on-Tees. The initial gauge of 4 ft 8 in (1,422 mm) was set to accommodate the existing gauge of hundreds of horse-
    drawn chaldron wagons[14] that were already in use on the wagonways in the mines.

    --
    "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
    man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
    -Samuel Clemens

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  • From Whisky-dave@21:1/5 to newshound on Wed Dec 15 05:16:03 2021
    On Tuesday, 14 December 2021 at 16:09:19 UTC, newshound wrote:
    On 13/12/2021 17:12, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2021-12-13 08:27, Whisky-dave wrote:
    On Sunday, 12 December 2021 at 23:46:14 UTC, nospam wrote:
    In article <sp605o$966$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, John Smith
    <J...@AIOE.invalid>
    wrote:

    My filters & kill file have given me aUseNet experience mostly free of >>>>> ³Boater Dave². Thread hijacking was/is one of his typical M.O.s. >>>>> The only
    time I see one of his scribblings now, is if it is quoted in an
    unwitting
    response.

    Boater Dave has been very impressed with the videos you have produced. >>>>
    He suggests that you spend a little more time filming the seals - at >>>> the
    power station end of the waterway.
    obvious forge. you're not fooling anyone.

    An interesting point is that seals are easily disturbed, in teh UK
    the public are asked to stay a certain distance from
    them when viewing or taking photos, so a drone could be used I guess
    but you'd have to know something
    about the sound levels at a certain distance you drone will make.

    I've flown within metres of deer in the wild, they don't react much to
    it. Not in their enemy database.

    Yes, I guess to a seal a drone would be no more malign than a seagull.

    I'd have thought any strange noise would Startle them, most animals
    have a sort of list of sounds from birth and some idea of how to react as flight or fright.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Whisky-dave on Wed Dec 15 11:10:16 2021
    On 2021-12-15 08:09, Whisky-dave wrote:
    On Tuesday, 14 December 2021 at 16:16:09 UTC, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2021-12-14 08:23, Whisky-dave wrote:

    At least they didn't use the width of a horses arse like they did for rail track widths ;-)
    unless that is some urban myth.
    Myth. But it's a fun to trace the space shuttle booster rocket
    dimensions to the distance between two roman chariot pulling horse's
    anus' ...

    Look up Stephenson Gauge for the real story.

    So not entiley untrue, but related to horses.

    Stephenson's Stockton and Darlington railway (S&DR) was built primarily to transport coal from mines near Shildon to the port at Stockton-on-Tees. The initial gauge of 4 ft 8 in (1,422 mm) was set to accommodate the existing gauge of hundreds of horse-
    drawn chaldron wagons[14] that were already in use on the wagonways in the mines.

    OTOH, you'll find dozens of rail gauges in use at the time, mine to
    mine, country to country.

    In the end the gauge was chosen within a sweet spot of possible gauges
    that met the various engineering/economic needs of the day.

    Eastern Europe still has other gauges and there are a variety of border changing solutions ranging from everyone/thing change trains, to lifting
    the 'carriage' portion from one set of wheels to another to variable
    width wheel sets. (I think Spain or Portugal also has an odd gauge size
    on some lines).

    --
    Beginning in the 1970's, all birds in North America were replaced by
    drones made to look and act like birds. By 2004, no natural birds are
    found. They are all drones. They all belong to the government. They
    spy on everyone. All of the time. Birds are not real.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Whisky-dave on Wed Dec 15 11:18:13 2021
    On 2021-12-15 08:16, Whisky-dave wrote:
    On Tuesday, 14 December 2021 at 16:09:19 UTC, newshound wrote:
    On 13/12/2021 17:12, Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2021-12-13 08:27, Whisky-dave wrote:
    On Sunday, 12 December 2021 at 23:46:14 UTC, nospam wrote:
    In article <sp605o$966$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, John Smith
    <J...@AIOE.invalid>
    wrote:

    My filters & kill file have given me aUseNet experience mostly free of >>>>>>> ³Boater Dave². Thread hijacking was/is one of his typical M.O.s. >>>>>>> The only
    time I see one of his scribblings now, is if it is quoted in an
    unwitting
    response.

    Boater Dave has been very impressed with the videos you have produced. >>>>>>
    He suggests that you spend a little more time filming the seals - at >>>>>> the
    power station end of the waterway.
    obvious forge. you're not fooling anyone.

    An interesting point is that seals are easily disturbed, in teh UK
    the public are asked to stay a certain distance from
    them when viewing or taking photos, so a drone could be used I guess
    but you'd have to know something
    about the sound levels at a certain distance you drone will make.

    I've flown within metres of deer in the wild, they don't react much to
    it. Not in their enemy database.

    Yes, I guess to a seal a drone would be no more malign than a seagull.

    I'd have thought any strange noise would Startle them, most animals
    have a sort of list of sounds from birth and some idea of how to react as flight or fright.

    Drones don't sound like anything else in nature so no reaction.

    eg: Penguins don't care about people. Not in their database of things
    that are a threat. Such as leopard seals.

    And it's "Flight or fight".

    --
    Beginning in the 1970's, all birds in North America were replaced by
    drones made to look and act like birds. By 2004, no real birds are to
    be found. They are all drones. They all belong to the government.
    They spy on everyone. All of the time. Birds are not real.

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