• Re: Uh oh - more work for Leni - Fauci lied, Rand Paul told the truth

    From Bill W@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 21 13:12:19 2021
    Whoopsie again - please ignore - wrong group.

    On Oct 21, 2021, Bill W wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2721E49601FB6ECD30F7E138F@news-us.newsgroup.ninja>):

    You better get on this, Leni:

    NIH Admits to Funding Gain-of-Function Research in Wuhan, Says EcoHealth Violated Reporting Requirements
    ByCAROLINE DOWNEY (https://www.nationalreview.com/author/caroline-downey/)

    October 21, 2021 8:51 AM

    Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, arrives for a hearing to discuss at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C., May 11, 2021.(Greg Nash/Pool via Reuters)

    A top NIH official admitted in a Wednesday letter that U.S. taxpayers funded gain-of-function research (https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/08/americans-deserve-the-truth-about- gain-of-function-research-and-the-wuhan-lab/) on bat coronaviruses in Wuhan and revealed that EcoHealth Alliance, the U.S. non-profit that funneled NIH money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, was not transparent about the work it was doing.

    In the letter (https://twitter.com/R_H_Ebright/status/1450947395508858880)to Representative James Comer (R., Ky.), Lawrence A. Tabak of the NIH cites a “limited experiment” that was conducted to test if “spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor in a mouse model.” The laboratory mice infected with the modified bat virus “became sicker” than those infected with the unmodified bat virus.

    The revelation vindicates Republican senatorRand Paul (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/rand-paul-accuses-fauci-of-lying-to- congress-about-gain-of-function-research-funding/), who got into heated exchanges with National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease director Anthony Fauci during his May and July testimonials before Congress over the gain-of-function question. At the second hearing, Paul accused Fauci of misleading Congress by denying that the U.S. had funded gain-of-function projects at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

    Gain-of-function research involves extracting viruses from animals and artificially engineering them in a laboratory to make them more transmissible or deadly to humans.

    In keeping with Fauci’s refusal to use “gain-of-function,” Tabak avoids the term, though the work he described matches its commonplace definition precisely.

    A previously unpublished EcoHealthgrant proposal (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/internal-documents-further-contradict- faucis-gain-of-function-research-denials/)filed with NIAID, obtained byThe Intercept,had already exposed that $599,000 of the total grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology was for research designed to make viruses more dangerous and/or infectious.

    Dr. Richard Ebright, biosafety expert and professor of chemistry and chemical biology at Rutgers University, had previouslyrebutted (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/internal-documents-further-contradict- faucis-gain-of-function-research-denials/)Fauci’s claim that the NIH “has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology [WIV]” as “demonstrably false (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/biosafety-expert-explains-why-faucis-nih-
    gain-of-function-testimony-was-demonstrably-false/).”

    Ebright told National Reviewthat the NIH-financed work at the WIV “epitomizes” the definition of gain-of-function research, which deals with “enhanced potential pandemic pathogen (PPP)” or those pathogens “resulting from the enhancement of the transmissibility and/or virulence of a pathogen.”

    In addition to his admission that gain-of-function research was being conducted with NIH money, Tabak also revealed that EcoHealth failed to comply with its reporting responsibilities under the grant. EcoHealth was required to submit to a “secondary review” in the event of certain developments that might increase the danger associated with the research. So, when Wuhan researchers successfully bound a natural bat coronavirus to a human AC2 receptor in mice, they were supposed to inform the NIH, but they didn’t.

    Eco Health now has five days, according to Tabak, to submit to NIH “any and all unpublished data” relating to this award’s project for compliance purposes.

    The remainder of the document attempts to prove that the naturally occurring bat coronaviruses used in the 2014-2018 NIH grant experiments “are decades removed from SARS-CoV-2 evolutionarily,” only sharing 96-97 percent of the genome.

    CAROLINE DOWNEY (https://www.nationalreview.com/author/caroline-downey/)is a news writer forNational Review Online.@carolinedowney_ (https://www.twitter.com/carolinedowney_)

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  • From Bill W@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 21 13:10:30 2021
    You better get on this, Leni:

    NIH Admits to Funding Gain-of-Function Research in Wuhan, Says EcoHealth Violated Reporting Requirements
    ByCAROLINE DOWNEY (https://www.nationalreview.com/author/caroline-downey/)

    October 21, 2021 8:51 AM

    Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and
    Infectious Diseases, arrives for a hearing to discuss at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C., May 11, 2021.(Greg Nash/Pool via Reuters)

    A top NIH official admitted in a Wednesday letter that U.S. taxpayers funded gain-of-function research (https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/08/americans-deserve-the-truth-about- gain-of-function-research-and-the-wuhan-lab/) on bat coronaviruses in Wuhan
    and revealed that EcoHealth Alliance, the U.S. non-profit that funneled NIH money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, was not transparent about the work
    it was doing.

    In the letter (https://twitter.com/R_H_Ebright/status/1450947395508858880)to Representative James Comer (R., Ky.), Lawrence A. Tabak of the NIH cites a “limited experiment” that was conducted to test if “spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor in a mouse model.” The laboratory mice infected with the modified bat virus “became sicker” than those infected with the unmodified bat virus.

    The revelation vindicates Republican senatorRand Paul (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/rand-paul-accuses-fauci-of-lying-to- congress-about-gain-of-function-research-funding/), who got into heated exchanges with National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease director Anthony Fauci during his May and July testimonials before Congress over the gain-of-function question. At the second hearing, Paul accused Fauci of misleading Congress by denying that the U.S. had funded gain-of-function projects at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

    Gain-of-function research involves extracting viruses from animals and artificially engineering them in a laboratory to make them more transmissible or deadly to humans.

    In keeping with Fauci’s refusal to use “gain-of-function,” Tabak avoids the term, though the work he described matches its commonplace definition precisely.

    A previously unpublished EcoHealthgrant proposal (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/internal-documents-further-contradict- faucis-gain-of-function-research-denials/)filed with NIAID, obtained byThe Intercept,had already exposed that $599,000 of the total grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology was for research designed to make viruses more
    dangerous and/or infectious.

    Dr. Richard Ebright, biosafety expert and professor of chemistry and chemical biology at Rutgers University, had previouslyrebutted (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/internal-documents-further-contradict- faucis-gain-of-function-research-denials/)Fauci’s claim that the NIH “has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the Wuhan
    Institute of Virology [WIV]” as “demonstrably false (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/biosafety-expert-explains-why-faucis-nih- gain-of-function-testimony-was-demonstrably-false/).”

    Ebright told National Reviewthat the NIH-financed work at the WIV “epitomizes” the definition of gain-of-function research, which deals
    with “enhanced potential pandemic pathogen (PPP)” or those pathogens “resulting from the enhancement of the transmissibility and/or virulence of
    a pathogen.”

    In addition to his admission that gain-of-function research was being
    conducted with NIH money, Tabak also revealed that EcoHealth failed to comply with its reporting responsibilities under the grant. EcoHealth was required
    to submit to a “secondary review” in the event of certain developments
    that might increase the danger associated with the research. So, when Wuhan researchers successfully bound a natural bat coronavirus to a human AC2 receptor in mice, they were supposed to inform the NIH, but they didn’t.

    Eco Health now has five days, according to Tabak, to submit to NIH “any and all unpublished data” relating to this award’s project for compliance purposes.

    The remainder of the document attempts to prove that the naturally occurring bat coronaviruses used in the 2014-2018 NIH grant experiments “are decades removed from SARS-CoV-2 evolutionarily,” only sharing 96-97 percent of the genome.

    CAROLINE DOWNEY (https://www.nationalreview.com/author/caroline-downey/)is a news writer forNational Review Online.@carolinedowney_ (https://www.twitter.com/carolinedowney_)

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  • From Savageduck@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 21 12:23:06 2021
    On Oct 21, 2021, Bill W wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2721E50301FB887D30F7E138F@news-us.newsgroup.ninja>):

    Whoopsie again - please ignore - wrong group.

    ...and then you reposted all of that crap again.

    --
    Regards,
    Savageduck

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  • From Still Bud@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 21 14:32:46 2021
    On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 13:10:30 -0500, Bill W <nothing@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    You better get on this, Leni:


    SHUT the fucking fuck up, troll.

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  • From Bill W@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 21 17:45:08 2021
    On Oct 21, 2021, Savageduck wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2721F5960108B52870000C63538F@news.giganews.com>):

    On Oct 21, 2021, Bill W wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2721E49601FB6ECD30F7E138F@news-us.newsgroup.ninja>):

    <Snip>
    CAROLINE DOWNEY (https://www.nationalreview.com/author/caroline-downey/)is a
    news writer forNational Review Online.@carolinedowney_ (https://www.twitter.com/carolinedowney_)

    Consider that the source is the National Review, another ultra conservative rag.

    I made it clear I posted it here by mistake. You have deliberately posted political commentary here. I haven’t.

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bill W on Fri Oct 22 11:44:01 2021
    On 22/10/2021 7:12 am, Bill W wrote:
    Whoopsie again - please ignore - wrong group.

    On Oct 21, 2021, Bill W wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2721E49601FB6ECD30F7E138F@news-us.newsgroup.ninja>):

    You better get on this, Leni:

    NIH Admits to Funding Gain-of-Function Research in Wuhan, Says EcoHealth
    Violated Reporting Requirements
    ByCAROLINE DOWNEY (https://www.nationalreview.com/author/caroline-downey/) >>
    October 21, 2021 8:51 AM


    Wrong group ? Wrong universe dude...

    geoff

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Bill W on Fri Oct 22 11:50:02 2021
    On 22/10/2021 11:45 am, Bill W wrote:
    On Oct 21, 2021, Savageduck wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2721F5960108B52870000C63538F@news.giganews.com>):

    On Oct 21, 2021, Bill W wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2721E49601FB6ECD30F7E138F@news-us.newsgroup.ninja>):

    <Snip>
    CAROLINE DOWNEY (https://www.nationalreview.com/author/caroline-downey/)is a
    news writer forNational Review Online.@carolinedowney_
    (https://www.twitter.com/carolinedowney_)

    Consider that the source is the National Review, another ultra conservative >> rag.

    I made it clear I posted it here by mistake. You have deliberately posted political commentary here. I haven’t.


    Sad that anybody posts that sort of crap anywhere.

    geoff

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to Bill W on Thu Oct 28 16:43:06 2021
    On Thursday, 21 October 2021 at 14:10:36 UTC-4, Bill W wrote:
    You better get on this, Leni:

    NIH Admits to Funding Gain-of-Function Research in Wuhan, Says EcoHealth Violated Reporting Requirements
    ByCAROLINE DOWNEY (https://www.nationalreview.com/author/caroline-downey/)

    October 21, 2021 8:51 AM

    Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, arrives for a hearing to discuss at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C., May 11, 2021.(Greg Nash/Pool via Reuters)

    A top NIH official admitted in a Wednesday letter that U.S. taxpayers funded gain-of-function research (https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/08/americans-deserve-the-truth-about- gain-of-function-research-and-the-wuhan-lab/) on bat coronaviruses in Wuhan and revealed that EcoHealth Alliance, the U.S. non-profit that funneled NIH money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, was not transparent about the work it was doing.

    In the letter (https://twitter.com/R_H_Ebright/status/1450947395508858880)to Representative James Comer (R., Ky.), Lawrence A. Tabak of the NIH cites a “limited experiment” that was conducted to test if “spike proteins from
    naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor in a mouse model.” The laboratory mice infected with the modified bat virus “became sicker” than those infected with the unmodified bat virus.

    The revelation vindicates Republican senatorRand Paul (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/rand-paul-accuses-fauci-of-lying-to- congress-about-gain-of-function-research-funding/), who got into heated exchanges with National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease director Anthony Fauci during his May and July testimonials before Congress over the gain-of-function question. At the second hearing, Paul accused Fauci of misleading Congress by denying that the U.S. had funded gain-of-function projects at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

    Gain-of-function research involves extracting viruses from animals and artificially engineering them in a laboratory to make them more transmissible
    or deadly to humans.

    In keeping with Fauci’s refusal to use “gain-of-function,” Tabak avoids
    the term, though the work he described matches its commonplace definition precisely.

    A previously unpublished EcoHealthgrant proposal (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/internal-documents-further-contradict- faucis-gain-of-function-research-denials/)filed with NIAID, obtained byThe Intercept,had already exposed that $599,000 of the total grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology was for research designed to make viruses more dangerous and/or infectious.

    Dr. Richard Ebright, biosafety expert and professor of chemistry and chemical
    biology at Rutgers University, had previouslyrebutted (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/internal-documents-further-contradict- faucis-gain-of-function-research-denials/)Fauci’s claim that the NIH “has
    not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology [WIV]” as “demonstrably false (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/biosafety-expert-explains-why-faucis-nih-
    gain-of-function-testimony-was-demonstrably-false/).”

    Ebright told National Reviewthat the NIH-financed work at the WIV “epitomizes” the definition of gain-of-function research, which deals with “enhanced potential pandemic pathogen (PPP)” or those pathogens “resulting from the enhancement of the transmissibility and/or virulence of
    a pathogen.”

    In addition to his admission that gain-of-function research was being conducted with NIH money, Tabak also revealed that EcoHealth failed to comply
    with its reporting responsibilities under the grant. EcoHealth was required to submit to a “secondary review” in the event of certain developments that might increase the danger associated with the research. So, when Wuhan researchers successfully bound a natural bat coronavirus to a human AC2 receptor in mice, they were supposed to inform the NIH, but they didn’t.

    Eco Health now has five days, according to Tabak, to submit to NIH “any and
    all unpublished data” relating to this award’s project for compliance purposes.

    The remainder of the document attempts to prove that the naturally occurring bat coronaviruses used in the 2014-2018 NIH grant experiments “are decades removed from SARS-CoV-2 evolutionarily,” only sharing 96-97 percent of the genome.

    CAROLINE DOWNEY (https://www.nationalreview.com/author/caroline-downey/)is a news writer forNational Review Online.@carolinedowney_ (https://www.twitter.com/carolinedowney_)

    Fauci looks like a mortician.

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