https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bomb-causes-emergency-landing/
On 12/10/2021 09:05, RichA wrote:
https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bomb-causes-emergency-landing/
I'd love to know what camera it was. Roleiflex perhaps?
On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 4:56:13 AM UTC-4, newshound wrote:
On 12/10/2021 09:05, RichA wrote:
https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bomb-causes-emergency-landing/
I'd love to know what camera it was. Roleiflex perhaps?Same. There weren't any photos of said "device" in the article. Didn't notice any
mention of what I'd heard in the news on the day of, namely that the gentleman
was allegedly manifesting 'odd' behavior (too many trips to the bathroom?).
In any event, it is an example of how RichA is having unrealistic expectations for
the knowledge of regular folk, namely for everyone to be well versed in a specialty
(and antiques thereof would be a niche) technology, particularly when seen out
of their normal context.
Case in point, I can probably go pull a dozen different pieces of equipment out of
the lab at work that aren't immediately recognizable to the general public for lab
instrumentation/etc, so in the context of "futzing around" with them while onboard
a commercial flight would be completely harmless but get everyone else nervous.
If it was 21+ years ago, a neighboring passenger might strike up a "whats that?"
conversation and this would prevent any escalation. Perhaps even pre-CoVid, just not having a mask on (& subsequent discouragement of conversations) may have sufficed too...although we'd want to back that off by -5 years to also get rid
of all of the MAGA induced antisocial attitudes & predispositions to violence too.
-hh
https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bomb-causes-emergency-landing/
On Tuesday, 12 October 2021 at 07:23:53 UTC-4, -hh wrote:
On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 4:56:13 AM UTC-4, newshound wrote:
On 12/10/2021 09:05, RichA wrote:
https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bomb-causes-emergency-landing/
I'd love to know what camera it was. Roleiflex perhaps?Same. There weren't any photos of said "device" in the article. Didn't notice any
mention of what I'd heard in the news on the day of, namely that the gentleman
was allegedly manifesting 'odd' behavior (too many trips to the bathroom?).
In any event, it is an example of how RichA is having unrealistic expectations for
the knowledge of regular folk, namely for everyone to be well versed in a specialty
(and antiques thereof would be a niche) technology, particularly when seen out
of their normal context.
Case in point, I can probably go pull a dozen different pieces of equipment out of
the lab at work that aren't immediately recognizable to the general public for lab
instrumentation/etc, so in the context of "futzing around" with them while onboard
a commercial flight would be completely harmless but get everyone else nervous.
If it was 21+ years ago, a neighboring passenger might strike up a "whats that?"
conversation and this would prevent any escalation. Perhaps even pre-CoVid,
just not having a mask on (& subsequent discouragement of conversations) may
have sufficed too...although we'd want to back that off by -5 years to also get rid
of all of the MAGA induced antisocial attitudes & predispositions to violence too.
Lab equipment isn't a camera. Lots of lab equipment is highly esoteric.
But cameras are pretty identifiable.
Maybe the guy pulled the film-back release and they thought it was a grenade?
On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 9:24:04 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
On Tuesday, 12 October 2021 at 07:23:53 UTC-4, -hh wrote:
On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 4:56:13 AM UTC-4, newshound wrote:
On 12/10/2021 09:05, RichA wrote:
https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bomb-causes-emergency-landing/
I'd love to know what camera it was. Roleiflex perhaps?Same. There weren't any photos of said "device" in the article. Didn't notice any
mention of what I'd heard in the news on the day of, namely that the gentleman
was allegedly manifesting 'odd' behavior (too many trips to the bathroom?).
In any event, it is an example of how RichA is having unrealistic expectations for
the knowledge of regular folk, namely for everyone to be well versed in a specialty
(and antiques thereof would be a niche) technology, particularly when seen out
of their normal context.
Case in point, I can probably go pull a dozen different pieces of equipment out of
the lab at work that aren't immediately recognizable to the general public for lab
instrumentation/etc, so in the context of "futzing around" with them while onboard
a commercial flight would be completely harmless but get everyone else nervous.
If it was 21+ years ago, a neighboring passenger might strike up a "whats that?"
conversation and this would prevent any escalation. Perhaps even pre-CoVid,
just not having a mask on (& subsequent discouragement of conversations) may
have sufficed too...although we'd want to back that off by -5 years to also get rid
of all of the MAGA induced antisocial attitudes & predispositions to violence too.
Lab equipment isn't a camera. Lots of lab equipment is highly esoteric.Some of the lab gear are cameras which an average joe probably wouldn’t recognize as a camera.
But cameras are pretty identifiable.Over the past 100 years? Not really. Witness how there’s people today who don’t
know how to dial a rotary dial telephone already, despite how similar they still are
to modern touch pad phones.
Maybe the guy pulled the film-back release and they thought it was a grenade?Older cameras in particular have lots of little user-accessible metal parts to
fiddle around with…and invariably, they’re also “tactical black” in coloration.
Heck, I probably still have a personal camera or two in my own gear pile that
you’re probably unable of properly setting up & operating, and your attempts
to do so would have pretty good odds of causing permanent damage.
-hh
On Wednesday, 13 October 2021 at 22:32:56 UTC+1, -hh wrote:
On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 9:24:04 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
On Tuesday, 12 October 2021 at 07:23:53 UTC-4, -hh wrote:
On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 4:56:13 AM UTC-4, newshound wrote:
On 12/10/2021 09:05, RichA wrote:
https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bomb-causes-emergency-landing/
I'd love to know what camera it was. Roleiflex perhaps?Same. There weren't any photos of said "device" in the article. Didn't notice any
mention of what I'd heard in the news on the day of, namely that the gentleman
was allegedly manifesting 'odd' behavior (too many trips to the bathroom?).
In any event, it is an example of how RichA is having unrealistic expectations for
the knowledge of regular folk, namely for everyone to be well versed in a specialty
(and antiques thereof would be a niche) technology, particularly when seen out
of their normal context.
Case in point, I can probably go pull a dozen different pieces of equipment out of
the lab at work that aren't immediately recognizable to the general public for lab
instrumentation/etc, so in the context of "futzing around" with them while onboard
a commercial flight would be completely harmless but get everyone else nervous.
If it was 21+ years ago, a neighboring passenger might strike up a "whats that?"
conversation and this would prevent any escalation. Perhaps even pre-CoVid,
just not having a mask on (& subsequent discouragement of conversations) may
have sufficed too...although we'd want to back that off by -5 years to also get rid
of all of the MAGA induced antisocial attitudes & predispositions to violence too.
Lab equipment isn't a camera. Lots of lab equipment is highly esoteric.
Some of the lab gear are cameras which an average joe probably wouldn’t recognize as a camera.
But cameras are pretty identifiable.
Over the past 100 years? Not really. Witness how there’s people today who don’t
know how to dial a rotary dial telephone already, despite how similar they still are
to modern touch pad phones.
Maybe the guy pulled the film-back release and they thought it was a grenade?Older cameras in particular have lots of little user-accessible metal parts to
fiddle around with…and invariably, they’re also “tactical black” in coloration.
Heck, I probably still have a personal camera or two in my own gear pile that
you’re probably unable of properly setting up & operating, and your attempts
to do so would have pretty good odds of causing permanent damage.
Did you know that the handle of the star wars light sabre is actually a flash gun
handle support from a 1950s flash bulb .
https://petapixel.com/2017/02/14/antique-camera-flash-became-iconic-star-wars-prop/
So don't go waving your vintage flash gun holder on a plane :-)
On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 4:56:13 AM UTC-4, newshound wrote:
On 12/10/2021 09:05, RichA wrote:
https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bo
mb-causes-emergency-landing/
I'd love to know what camera it was. Roleiflex perhaps?
Same. There weren't any photos of said "device" in the article.
Didn't notice any mention of what I'd heard in the news on the day of,
namely that the gentleman was allegedly manifesting 'odd' behavior
(too many trips to the bathroom?).
-hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 4:56:13 AM UTC-4, newshound wrote:
On 12/10/2021 09:05, RichA wrote:
https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bo
mb-causes-emergency-landing/
I'd love to know what camera it was. Roleiflex perhaps?
Same. There weren't any photos of said "device" in the article.He was using it as a darkroom, it was probably the sight of him carrying
Didn't notice any mention of what I'd heard in the news on the day of, namely that the gentleman was allegedly manifesting 'odd' behavior
(too many trips to the bathroom?).
a changing bag, film tank and bottles of chemicals into the toilet that aroused suspicions more than the Box Brownie he was using.
On Friday, 15 October 2021 at 03:16:52 UTC+1, Gordon Freeman wrote:
-hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 4:56:13 AM UTC-4, newshound wrote:He was using it as a darkroom, it was probably the sight of him
On 12/10/2021 09:05, RichA wrote:
https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for
-bo mb-causes-emergency-landing/
I'd love to know what camera it was. Roleiflex perhaps?
Same. There weren't any photos of said "device" in the article.
Didn't notice any mention of what I'd heard in the news on the day
of, namely that the gentleman was allegedly manifesting 'odd'
behavior (too many trips to the bathroom?).
carrying a changing bag, film tank and bottles of chemicals into the
toilet that aroused suspicions more than the Box Brownie he was
using.
Are you saying peopleare allowed to take chemicals on to the plane
I thought liquids of more than ~70ml were banned.
How would he have managed temperature, and how do you use a planes
toilet in an plan, there's not much space in them.
On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 9:16:34 AM UTC-4, Whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 13 October 2021 at 22:32:56 UTC+1, -hh wrote:
On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 9:24:04 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
On Tuesday, 12 October 2021 at 07:23:53 UTC-4, -hh wrote:Some of the lab gear are cameras which an average joe probably wouldn’t >>> recognize as a camera.
On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 4:56:13 AM UTC-4, newshound wrote:
On 12/10/2021 09:05, RichA wrote:Same. There weren't any photos of said "device" in the article. Didn't notice any
https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bomb-causes-emergency-landing/
I'd love to know what camera it was. Roleiflex perhaps?
mention of what I'd heard in the news on the day of, namely that the gentleman
was allegedly manifesting 'odd' behavior (too many trips to the bathroom?).
In any event, it is an example of how RichA is having unrealistic expectations for
the knowledge of regular folk, namely for everyone to be well versed in a specialty
(and antiques thereof would be a niche) technology, particularly when seen out
of their normal context.
Case in point, I can probably go pull a dozen different pieces of equipment out of
the lab at work that aren't immediately recognizable to the general public for lab
instrumentation/etc, so in the context of "futzing around" with them while onboard
a commercial flight would be completely harmless but get everyone else nervous.
If it was 21+ years ago, a neighboring passenger might strike up a "whats that?"
conversation and this would prevent any escalation. Perhaps even pre-CoVid,
just not having a mask on (& subsequent discouragement of conversations) may
have sufficed too...although we'd want to back that off by -5 years to also get rid
of all of the MAGA induced antisocial attitudes & predispositions to violence too.
Lab equipment isn't a camera. Lots of lab equipment is highly esoteric. >>>
But cameras are pretty identifiable.
Over the past 100 years? Not really. Witness how there’s people today who don’t
know how to dial a rotary dial telephone already, despite how similar they still are
to modern touch pad phones.
Maybe the guy pulled the film-back release and they thought it was a grenade?Older cameras in particular have lots of little user-accessible metal parts to
fiddle around with…and invariably, they’re also “tactical black” in coloration.
Heck, I probably still have a personal camera or two in my own gear pile that
you’re probably unable of properly setting up & operating, and your attempts
to do so would have pretty good odds of causing permanent damage.
Did you know that the handle of the star wars light sabre is actually a flash gun
handle support from a 1950s flash bulb .
https://petapixel.com/2017/02/14/antique-camera-flash-became-iconic-star-wars-prop/
By happenstance coincidence, yes: it was featured on an episode of "Antiques Road Show".
<https://www.therpf.com/forums/threads/graflex-camera-and-flash-on-antiques-roadshow.329005/>
So don't go waving your vintage flash gun holder on a plane :-)
There's plenty of things that one shouldn't go waving around on a commercial airline flight
these days, as times have changed: I can recall a trip many, many moons ago where I was
hand-carrying a 25ft long custom cable on the Laguardia-to-Boston shuttle... I didn't even
have a bag for it .. just had it slung over my shoulder & walked through security & onboard.
In the '80s, a coworker got stopped hand-carrying machine gun barrels .. on his ~6th roundtrip.
-hh
On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 01:05:49 -0700 (PDT), RichA posted:-
https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bomb-causes-emergency-landing/
LOL Check that fat toad in the CNN clip there. Too many cheeseburgers.
On Tuesday, 12 October 2021 at 23:23:49 UTC-4, Mountain Magpie wrote:
On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 01:05:49 -0700 (PDT), RichA posted:-
https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bomb-causes-emergency-landing/
LOL Check that fat toad in the CNN clip there. Too many cheeseburgers.
Ever seen a cruise ship taking on passengers in the Carolinas? EVERYONE is FAT!!
Years ago, I bought a 1200mm f/11 Canon FL-mount lens from an auction
house in Germany. They shipped it to me via Fedex. I got a call from the local Fedex depot that they had my package, and needed some info before
they would release it. Fedex at some point had x-rayed it and thought it looked like a LAWS (Light-Anti-Tank-Weapons-System) rocket. I had to
come to the depot and claim it in person. After showing them ID,
including a passport, they took me to a concrete block room with a heavy
door and small window. They stood outside while I opened the package and showed them how the lens mounted onto the camera I brought with me.
Of course it would be a bit difficult to wave that lens around in an
airplane passenger compartment.
Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 15 October 2021 at 03:16:52 UTC+1, Gordon Freeman wrote:
-hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 4:56:13 AM UTC-4, newshound wrote:He was using it as a darkroom, it was probably the sight of him
On 12/10/2021 09:05, RichA wrote:
https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for
-bo mb-causes-emergency-landing/
I'd love to know what camera it was. Roleiflex perhaps?
Same. There weren't any photos of said "device" in the article.
Didn't notice any mention of what I'd heard in the news on the day
of, namely that the gentleman was allegedly manifesting 'odd'
behavior (too many trips to the bathroom?).
carrying a changing bag, film tank and bottles of chemicals into the
toilet that aroused suspicions more than the Box Brownie he was
using.
Are you saying peopleare allowed to take chemicals on to the plane
I thought liquids of more than ~70ml were banned.
How would he have managed temperature, and how do you use a planesI once had to use a wardrobe as a darkroom, it's probably about the same space and at least there's running water in a toilet.
toilet in an plan, there's not much space in them.
Anyway, ordinary film is not too bad, but forget daguerrotypes - mercury isn't allowed on planes! Daguerrotypists were allowed on hot air
balloons but never planes AFAIK.
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