• Hot on the heels of a Hellish hack of Apple, they announce new products

    From RichA@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 14 15:39:19 2021
    No sooner had the UofT and Apple announce a new, horrific vulnerability, Apple announces new products.
    Now, I don't want to say that a lot of these tech people are paid-off to pump new Apple products...

    https://www.dpreview.com/

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to RichA on Tue Sep 14 18:49:36 2021
    In article <1538d621-8041-45bc-a673-2bb00bd411den@googlegroups.com>,
    RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

    Now, I don't want to say that a lot of these tech people are paid-off to pump new Apple products...

    they aren't

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  • From Robin Goodfellow@21:1/5 to nospam on Wed Sep 15 05:13:23 2021
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
    Now, I don't want to say that a lot of these tech people are paid-off to pump
    new Apple products...

    they aren't

    And yet, you claim DXOMark was "bribed" to rate iPhones lower than others...

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net on Wed Sep 15 01:58:58 2021
    In article <shrvdd$u3o$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow <Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:

    Now, I don't want to say that a lot of these tech people are paid-off to >> pump new Apple products...

    they aren't

    And yet, you claim DXOMark was "bribed" to rate iPhones lower than others...

    no, what i said was those who pay dxomark get better ratings than those
    who don't.

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to nospam on Tue Sep 14 23:37:05 2021
    On Tuesday, 14 September 2021 at 18:49:42 UTC-4, nospam wrote:
    In article <1538d621-8041-45bc...@googlegroups.com>,
    RichA <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Now, I don't want to say that a lot of these tech people are paid-off to pump
    new Apple products...
    they aren't

    Sure they are. All underpaid tech reporters are. A long time ago, a writer for a Toronto paper exposed massive junkets held by movie studios for critics (back when their opinions mattered). They were ALL on the take. Some of them are truly
    enthusiastic about the product, owing to its performance for them. But it's a fine line between that and weird loyalties.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to RichA on Wed Sep 15 02:51:27 2021
    In article <355a17f9-9194-40b5-b308-7f18364e1029n@googlegroups.com>,
    RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

    Now, I don't want to say that a lot of these tech people are paid-off to pump new Apple products...
    they aren't

    Sure they are.

    nope

    All underpaid tech reporters are.

    dpreview journalists are not underpaid.

    A long time ago, a writer
    for a Toronto paper exposed massive junkets held by movie studios for critics (back when their opinions mattered). They were ALL on the take. Some of them are truly enthusiastic about the product, owing to its performance for them. But it's a fine line between that and weird loyalties.

    whatever may have happened there has absolutely nothing whatsoever to
    do with apple.

    apple doesn't need to pay people to write about them.

    everyone wants to write about apple because it brings in the clicks,
    especially when the stories are false and misleading, as they often
    are.

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to nospam on Wed Sep 15 00:57:02 2021
    On Wednesday, 15 September 2021 at 02:51:33 UTC-4, nospam wrote:
    In article <355a17f9-9194-40b5...@googlegroups.com>,
    RichA <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Now, I don't want to say that a lot of these tech people are paid-off to
    pump new Apple products...
    they aren't

    Sure they are.
    nope
    All underpaid tech reporters are.
    dpreview journalists are not underpaid.
    A long time ago, a writer
    for a Toronto paper exposed massive junkets held by movie studios for critics
    (back when their opinions mattered). They were ALL on the take. Some of them are truly enthusiastic about the product, owing to its performance for them. But it's a fine line between that and weird loyalties.
    whatever may have happened there has absolutely nothing whatsoever to
    do with apple.

    apple doesn't need to pay people to write about them.

    Those who don't advertise are doomed to perish.

    everyone wants to write about apple because it brings in the clicks, especially when the stories are false and misleading, as they often
    are.

    Anything technical that's false is easily disproven.

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  • From Savageduck@21:1/5 to nospam on Wed Sep 15 06:23:22 2021
    On Sep 14, 2021, nospam wrote
    (in article<150920210158588819%nospam@nospam.invalid>):

    In article<shrvdd$u3o$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow <Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:

    Now, I don't want to say that a lot of these tech people are paid-off to
    pump new Apple products...

    they aren't

    And yet, you claim DXOMark was "bribed" to rate iPhones lower than others...

    no, what i said was those who pay dxomark get better ratings than those
    who don’t.

    It is also worth noting that DxO is limited in its testing methodology, and as a result excludes products that they do not have the capability to test. Just look to their inability to test Fujifilm X- series cameras.

    --
    Regards,
    Savageduck

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to RichA on Wed Sep 15 09:48:07 2021
    In article <29f11567-cfe8-4579-86f7-4930a1e93e4fn@googlegroups.com>,
    RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:


    apple doesn't need to pay people to write about them.

    Those who don't advertise are doomed to perish.

    advertising is not the same as paying journalists to write puff pieces.

    apple does *not* pay journalists. full stop.

    there is no need to do that. people want to write about apple, and will
    do so for free.

    meanwhile, other companies resort to sleazy tactics, notably samsung,
    who has been caught doing so:

    <https://www.theverge.com/2013/10/24/5023658/samsung-fined-340000-for-po sting-negative-htc-reviews>
    After being caught paying for false praise and negative comments
    about competitors, Samsung has been fined just over $340,000. The
    issue first arose internationally in April, when Taiwan's Fair Trade
    Commission (FTC) announced it was opening an investigation into the
    allegations. That investigation found the allegations were true: the
    FTC says Samsung used a "large number of hired writers and designated
    employees" to post in Taiwanese forums. The commission does add that
    the company did this through a third-party marketing company, just as
    Samsung originally claimed. Two local marketing firms were fined a
    combined total of over $100,000 for their part in the marketing ploy.

    everyone wants to write about apple because it brings in the clicks, especially when the stories are false and misleading, as they often
    are.

    Anything technical that's false is easily disproven.

    you haven't disproven anything.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Savageduck on Wed Sep 15 09:48:09 2021
    In article <0001HW.26F22B4A012A0CCA700009F2238F@news.giganews.com>,
    Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

    Now, I don't want to say that a lot of these tech people are paid-off to
    pump new Apple products...

    they aren't

    And yet, you claim DXOMark was "bribed" to rate iPhones lower than others...

    no, what i said was those who pay dxomark get better ratings than those
    who don¹t.

    It is also worth noting that DxO is limited in its testing methodology, and as a result excludes products that they do not have the capability to test. Just look to their inability to test Fujifilm X- series cameras.

    that too.

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  • From Robin Goodfellow@21:1/5 to nospam on Wed Sep 15 19:06:10 2021
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
    no, what i said was those who pay dxomark get better ratings than those
    who don¹t.

    It is also worth noting that DxO is limited in its testing methodology, and >> as a result excludes products that they do not have the capability to test. >> Just look to their inability to test Fujifilm X- series cameras.

    that too.

    *Nobody lies like Apple lies.*
    (See reference cites in the sig.)

    It's worth noting that there is nothing better than DXOMark for
    comprehensive testing of _smartphone_ camera quality of results.

    If there were, the apologists would have scoured the net to find it.
    (The apologists blame everyone but Apple for Apple's poor camera QOR.)

    Apple's lies about camera QOR are like Apple's lies about battery life.
    No independent outfit has _ever_ reproduced even close to what Apple's outlandish claims are on battery life (even Apple won't say how they do it.)

    Nobody lies like Apple lies.
    --
    Nobody lies like Apple lies.

    *Apple significantly overstates iPhone battery life* <https://press.which.co.uk/whichpressreleases/apple-significantly-overstates-iphone-battery-life-compared-to-which-tests/>

    *Apple significantly overstates iPhone battery life* <https://betanews.com/2019/05/03/apple-significantly-overstates-iphone-battery-life/>

    *iPhone battery life is half of what Apple claims it is* <https://tech.co/news/iphone-xr-battery-life-claims-2019-05>

    *Phone battery life significantly overstated by Apple* <https://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/iphone-battery-life-significantly-overstated-14992961>

    *Apple Is Vastly Exaggerating iPhone Battery Life Claims* <https://hothardware.com/news/apple-overselling-iphone-battery-life-uk-advocacy-group>

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net on Wed Sep 15 15:16:31 2021
    In article <shtg6s$sa4$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow <Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:


    *Nobody lies like me.*

    ftfy

    It's worth noting that there is nothing better than DXOMark for
    comprehensive testing of _smartphone_ camera quality of results.

    those who actually use cameras know this to be very much false.

    dxomark's *tests* are interesting, but their scores are worthless.

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  • From Robin Goodfellow@21:1/5 to nospam on Wed Sep 15 19:20:42 2021
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
    people want to write about apple, and will
    do so for free.

    *The problem with new iPhone 12 cameras is they're always dead*, nospam.

    And yes, I bought the new iPhone 12 mini recently - and with our almost
    daily PG&E power outages, that damn piece of shit iPhone is always dead.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/YC1B906F/tmopromo01.jpg>

    Meanwhile, my handful of free 5 Amp Hour Android Samsungs can't be killed.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/Xq5SpS4D/tmopromo02.jpg>

    The fact that the truth about Apple's expensive poor quality is well
    reported still doesn't stop you ignorant apologists from being ignorant.

    Case in point is that you refuse to understand Apple puts expensive cheap batteries in the iPhone 12 - along with cheaping out by removing chargers.

    The only iOS-based cameras that can last a PG&E outage are my old iPads:
    <https://i.postimg.cc/nhpbcP50/tmopromo04.jpg>
    --
    *Apple put cheap batteries and boards into the iPhone 12 purely for profit* https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/21/21394985/apple-iphone-12-battery-cost-5g-kuo https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/08/21/apple-to-offset-cost-of-5g-iphone-components-with-cheaper-battery-tech
    https://www.maticstoday.com/2020/08/21/why-apple-is-using-cheap-battery-parts-in-iphone-12/
    https://9to5mac.com/2020/08/21/kuo-iphone-12-5g-component-cost/ https://www.pcmag.com/news/report-iphone-12-to-use-smaller-cheaper-battery https://www.macrumors.com/2020/08/20/kuo-iphone-12-battery-board/ https://www.timesnownews.com/technology-science/article/apple-opting-for-cheaper-battery-parts-to-cut-costs-on-5g-iphone-12-analyst-ming-chi-kuo/640657
    https://techlog360.com/apple-will-use-cheaper-parts-in-the-iphone-12/

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  • From Robin Goodfellow@21:1/5 to nospam on Wed Sep 15 20:13:46 2021
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> asked
    *Nobody lies like me.*

    ftfy

    It's telling that nospam has no _adult_ response to facts about Apple.

    It's worth noting that there is nothing better than DXOMark for
    comprehensive testing of _smartphone_ camera quality of results.

    those who actually use cameras know this to be very much false.
    dxomark's *tests* are interesting, but their scores are worthless.

    Name an available comprehensive smartphone camera QOR outfit that is better.
    --
    The apologists always prove their belief system is based on zero (0) facts.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net on Wed Sep 15 16:35:57 2021
    In article <shth24$1a8l$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Robin Goodfellow <Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:

    Case in point is that you refuse to understand Apple puts expensive cheap batteries

    better than using a 'cheap cheap battery'.



    The only iOS-based cameras that can last a PG&E outage

    why are you taking photos during an outage?

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  • From Bill W@21:1/5 to Robin Goodfellow on Wed Sep 15 16:55:09 2021
    On Sep 15, 2021, Robin Goodfellow wrote
    (in article <shtg6s$sa4$1@gioia.aioe.org>):


    It's worth noting that there is nothing better than DXOMark for
    comprehensive testing of _smartphone_ camera quality of results.

    Does "nothing better" make something good?

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  • From Whisky-dave@21:1/5 to Robin Goodfellow on Fri Sep 17 05:57:19 2021
    On Wednesday, 15 September 2021 at 21:13:46 UTC+1, Robin Goodfellow wrote:
    nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> asked
    *Nobody lies like me.*

    ftfy
    It's telling that nospam has no _adult_ response to facts about Apple.
    It's worth noting that there is nothing better than DXOMark for
    comprehensive testing of _smartphone_ camera quality of results.

    those who actually use cameras know this to be very much false.
    dxomark's *tests* are interesting, but their scores are worthless.
    Name an available comprehensive smartphone camera QOR outfit that is better.

    Why would anyone bother unless there was money to be made from 'testing'
    What do the testers or the company get out of it ?


    I've always wondered why watches aren't tested to see which is best, and I'm talking about the old style
    not smat watches, most I've ever paid for a watch is £40, why spend thousands, do the tell the time better ?

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    The apologists always prove their belief system is based on zero (0) facts.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Whisky-dave on Fri Sep 17 09:37:38 2021
    In article <f42ad7c1-84b5-4b09-a9f0-66835d15553cn@googlegroups.com>, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

    most I've ever paid for a watch is £40, why spend
    thousands, do the tell the time better ?

    it's jewelry.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to RichA on Fri Sep 17 10:51:27 2021
    On 2021-09-14 18:39, RichA wrote:
    No sooner had the UofT and Apple announce a new, horrific vulnerability, Apple announces new products.
    Now, I don't want to say that a lot of these tech people are paid-off to pump new Apple products...

    Meanwhile Apple announced a marked increase in people granting them free
    rent in their heads.

    --
    "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
    man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
    -Samuel Clemens

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  • From Whisky-dave@21:1/5 to nospam on Mon Sep 20 05:28:57 2021
    On Friday, 17 September 2021 at 14:37:44 UTC+1, nospam wrote:
    In article <f42ad7c1-84b5-4b09...@googlegroups.com>,
    Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:

    most I've ever paid for a watch is £40, why spend
    thousands, do the tell the time better ?
    it's jewelry.

    I guess so and a watch is macho where as a diamond encrusted bangle would be 'gay'

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