• Next heat cycle after false pregnacy?

    From kanje26@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 6 12:43:12 2018
    When did she come on heat after fake pregnancy . my dog is going through the same thing .

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  • From bugera.denise@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Ray on Thu Oct 11 10:45:22 2018
    On Wednesday, May 1, 2002 at 12:30:00 PM UTC-7, Ray wrote:
    Andrea J Chee <andrea@bloodaxe.com> wrote in news:MCttNGETyC08EwIH@bloodaxe.demon.co.uk:

    In article <Xns9200638E859CFchucklescxxpeoplepcx@19.5.30.190>, Chuck
    <chucklesCx@xpeoplepcx.com> writes

    We had our two year old Thai Ridgeback bred, but she had a false >>pregnacy. Never had this happen before with a dog, so when can I expect >>her to go into heat again?

    False pregnancy is essentially part of a bitch's normal cycle - unlike people, they go through the same hormonal changes whether they are
    pregnant or not, or whether they are mated or not. That part of the
    cycle is called met-oestrus when they aren't pregnant. Some bitches
    respond to the hormones and have a visible false pregnancy, others
    don't, but the hormone cycle is still happening in both. So her cycle should remain the same regardless whether she's had a false pregnancy
    or not.

    I'm a little concerned that you're mating a bitch without knowing the normal cycle though. It implies that you may not have done enough
    homework to get your girl through her pregnancy and delivery safely, to keep most of the puppies alive (expect to lose some even with the very
    best care - sometimes you get lucky, but even the best breeders
    regularly have pups that don't make it), or to make sure that the pups won't suffer from expensive and heartbreaking genetic disorders as they grow up.

    If you have your girl's best interests at heart, get some books and do
    some general research on bitches/mating/pregnancy/whelping. You'll also need to find out what breed-specific health testing the parents should
    have before they're mated, which known problems in the breed you need
    to avoid, and so on - this may take some time in what is a
    comparatively rare breed, and you may need to speak to some responsible existing breeders. To get you started, you may wish to look up luxating patella and dermoid sinus, which are known inherited problems in the
    breed.

    - ANDREA


    Whoa Andrea.....better reign in that condescending holier than thou reply. Who made you judge of other peoples abilities? Who said they did not know what a normal cycle was?

    I raise Rhodesians, which are very similar to Thai Ridgebacks. My bitches having a false pregnancy due to an unsucessful mating will go into heat 3-5 months after the false pregnancy. There are many factors that will affect when the bitch will go into heat again depending on whether there was no conception, if there was a miscarriage, or if it was just a false pregnancy with no mating. You may not know if there was a miscarriage very early in the pregnancy.

    As for saying that, "her cycle should remain the same regardless whether she's had a false pregnancy or not." Sorry, you got that wrong. My bitches have proven that statement to be false several times.

    Ray

    You seem to be the most reasonable human being here and I'm having no luck in research so maybe you can advise me....I'm not looking to breed my girl but here's the situation ....
    We adopted a beautiful pittador 2 years old about 53 days ago. She is showing EVERY single sign of dog pregnancy. There is nothing wrong with her the vet couldn't confirm anything when we first took her in at first symptom and now she's seemingly going
    back to normal nipple and such but no puppies....obviously 'false pregnancy' these people who had her were horrible and have zero information for me..... no they didn't charge me for her it was straight up adoption anything they surrendered her to us.....
    but.... just so I know roughly what to expect when does anything heat (blood visible) cycle happen after this type of false experience for her? Again I don't want to breed her but would like to kind of know what to expect

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to bugera.denise@gmail.com on Sun Oct 14 19:00:48 2018
    bugera.denise@gmail.com wrote:

    On Wednesday, May 1, 2002 at 12:30:00 PM UTC-7, Ray wrote:
    Andrea J Chee <andrea@bloodaxe.com> wrote in news:MCttNGETyC08EwIH@bloodaxe.demon.co.uk:

    In article <Xns9200638E859CFchucklescxxpeoplepcx@19.5.30.190>,
    Chuck
    <chucklesCx@xpeoplepcx.com> writes

    We had our two year old Thai Ridgeback bred, but she had a false pregnacy. Never had this happen before with a dog, so when can
    I expect her to go into heat again?

    False pregnancy is essentially part of a bitch's normal cycle -
    unlike people, they go through the same hormonal changes whether
    they are pregnant or not, or whether they are mated or not. That
    part of the cycle is called met-oestrus when they aren't
    pregnant. Some bitches respond to the hormones and have a visible
    false pregnancy, others don't, but the hormone cycle is still
    happening in both. So her cycle should remain the same regardless
    whether she's had a false pregnancy or not.

    I'm a little concerned that you're mating a bitch without knowing
    the normal cycle though. It implies that you may not have done
    enough homework to get your girl through her pregnancy and
    delivery safely, to keep most of the puppies alive (expect to
    lose some even with the very best care - sometimes you get lucky,
    but even the best breeders regularly have pups that don't make
    it), or to make sure that the pups won't suffer from expensive
    and heartbreaking genetic disorders as they grow up.

    If you have your girl's best interests at heart, get some books
    and do some general research on
    bitches/mating/pregnancy/whelping. You'll also need to find out
    what breed-specific health testing the parents should have before
    they're mated, which known problems in the breed you need to
    avoid, and so on - this may take some time in what is a
    comparatively rare breed, and you may need to speak to some
    responsible existing breeders. To get you started, you may wish
    to look up luxating patella and dermoid sinus, which are known
    inherited problems in the breed.

    - ANDREA


    Whoa Andrea.....better reign in that condescending holier than thou
    reply. Who made you judge of other peoples abilities? Who said
    they did not know what a normal cycle was?

    I raise Rhodesians, which are very similar to Thai Ridgebacks. My
    bitches having a false pregnancy due to an unsucessful mating will
    go into heat 3-5 months after the false pregnancy. There are many
    factors that will affect when the bitch will go into heat again
    depending on whether there was no conception, if there was a
    miscarriage, or if it was just a false pregnancy with no mating.
    You may not know if there was a miscarriage very early in the
    pregnancy.

    As for saying that, "her cycle should remain the same regardless
    whether she's had a false pregnancy or not." Sorry, you got that
    wrong. My bitches have proven that statement to be false several
    times.

    Ray

    You seem to be the most reasonable human being here and I'm having no
    luck in research so maybe you can advise me....I'm not looking to
    breed my girl but here's the situation .... We adopted a beautiful
    pittador 2 years old about 53 days ago. She is showing EVERY single
    sign of dog pregnancy. There is nothing wrong with her the vet
    couldn't confirm anything when we first took her in at first symptom
    and now she's seemingly going back to normal nipple and such but no puppies....obviously 'false pregnancy' these people who had her were
    horrible and have zero information for me..... no they didn't charge
    me for her it was straight up adoption anything they surrendered her
    to us..... but.... just so I know roughly what to expect when does
    anything heat (blood visible) cycle happen after this type of false experience for her? Again I don't want to breed her but would like to
    kind of know what to expect

    Hi Denise,

    I'll try to help. You are replying to a message from 2002 and
    doubtless that person is long gone from newsgroups now.

    Has your girl ben spayed? It seems inherent in your message that she
    has not been. If so, 5-6 months she'll enter again.

    She's the proper age to spay and if you wait, she will be cancer prone
    in the mammaries due to late spay.

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