On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 1:20:28 AM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
They can destroy your other cats' lives.
My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt
perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with
belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just
the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of
their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right,
they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat
disabled which discourages them from picking on your other
cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle
strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily
dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands.
It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if
you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be
easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone.
Now, think this through: The cat is, essentially, on three legs. Nor can it jump reasonably. Nor can they avoid problems, threats or other dangers reasonably. Your dwelling must not contain stairs, or had better not contain stairs. That is problem A.
Now, we can agree that you have a 'bully' cat. Where we disagree is whether keeping it in the 'general population' is more desirable than separation and gentling over time. If your dwelling is so small as to prevent reasonable separation of problem cats,then you have too many cats. And even if noble motives are the cause of such crowding, you are past the point where 'doing good' outweighs the obvious 'bad'. That is problem B.
Cats may be incredibly flexible and have a lot of cartilage where we have hard bones - but that is not to suggest that a sudden exertion due to panic or some other cause is out of the question. And should such an event take place "while you are gone",anything up to dislocation could occur. That is problem C.
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Now, as the "Cannibal Left" was mentioned, the rest is fair game:
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There is a difference between a cat that is adapting to a permanent injury, and a cat that has been deliberately hobbled. That a cat may look entirely recovered after a number of months or years does not equate to a hobbled cat in a panic situation.
Our big Maine Coon (21 pounds) likes to walk up (and down) the stairway handrails (center-hall colonial). And he will jump onto the level section or the newel posts at any point. Imagine him trying that, hobbled.
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 09:47:56 -0700 (PDT), pfjw@aol.com wrote:
On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 1:20:28 AM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
They can destroy your other cats' lives.
My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt
perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with
belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just
the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of
their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right,
they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat
disabled which discourages them from picking on your other
cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle
strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily
dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands.
It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if
you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be
easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone.
I just found this newsgroup,. Much of this post is simply wrong.
Now, think this through: The cat is, essentially, on three legs.
Nor can it jump reasonably. Nor can they avoid problems, threats or
other dangers reasonably. Your dwelling must not contain stairs, or
had better not contain stairs. That is problem A.
I had a cat who lost a rear leg to cancer. Post amputation, it could
run, jump, speed up stairs. Thier mobility is impaired far less than believed. And this was a 16 year old who made it to 20.
Now, we can agree that you have a 'bully' cat. Where we disagree is
whether keeping it in the 'general population' is more desirable
than separation and gentling over time. If your dwelling is so
small as to prevent reasonable separation of problem cats, then you
have too many cats. And even if noble motives are the cause of such crowding, you are past the point where 'doing good' outweighs the
obvious 'bad'. That is problem B.
And with too many cats what do you do? If it's a bully it's not going
to get a home, just dead.
Cats may be incredibly flexible and have a lot of cartilage where
we have hard bones - but that is not to suggest that a sudden
exertion due to panic or some other cause is out of the question.
And should such an event take place "while you are gone", anything
up to dislocation could occur. That is problem C.
Just wrong again. They can do most anything most other cats can do.
And what kind of "event" did you have in mind?
There are others - but they are less blatant.
Hi, we are hoping to regrow this group but we have some very strange
folks.
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nobody nada.com wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 09:47:56 -0700 (PDT), pfjw aol.com wrote:
On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 1:20:28 AM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
They can destroy your other cats' lives.
My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt
perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with
belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just
the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of
their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right,
they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat
disabled which discourages them from picking on your other
cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle
strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily
dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands.
It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if
you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be
easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone.
I just found this newsgroup,. Much of this post is simply wrong.
Now, think this through: The cat is, essentially, on three legs.
Nor can it jump reasonably. Nor can they avoid problems, threats or
other dangers reasonably. Your dwelling must not contain stairs, or
had better not contain stairs. That is problem A.
I had a cat who lost a rear leg to cancer. Post amputation, it could
run, jump, speed up stairs. Thier mobility is impaired far less than
believed. And this was a 16 year old who made it to 20.
Now, we can agree that you have a 'bully' cat. Where we disagree is
whether keeping it in the 'general population' is more desirable
than separation and gentling over time. If your dwelling is so
small as to prevent reasonable separation of problem cats, then you
have too many cats. And even if noble motives are the cause of such
crowding, you are past the point where 'doing good' outweighs the
obvious 'bad'. That is problem B.
And with too many cats what do you do? If it's a bully it's not going
to get a home, just dead.
Cats may be incredibly flexible and have a lot of cartilage where
we have hard bones - but that is not to suggest that a sudden
exertion due to panic or some other cause is out of the question.
And should such an event take place "while you are gone", anything
up to dislocation could occur. That is problem C.
Just wrong again. They can do most anything most other cats can do.
And what kind of "event" did you have in mind?
There are others - but they are less blatant.
Hi, we are hoping to regrow this group but we have some very strange
folks.
--
On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 7:13:37 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
Hi, we are hoping to regrow this group but we have some very strange
folks.
Cats... kinda-sorta goes with the territory.
nobody@nada.com wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 09:47:56 -0700 (PDT), pfjw@aol.com wrote:
On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 1:20:28 AM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
They can destroy your other cats' lives.
My best method so far for coping... Make a small closed belt
perhaps 4 inches in diameter. Very easy to do with
belt/strapping material and hot melt glue. It must be just
the right size. You slip it over their head and pull one of
their legs, paw first, through it. If the size is just right,
they can walk and use the litter box, but they are somewhat
disabled which discourages them from picking on your other
cats. That should be introduced gradually to avoid any muscle
strains. But it is a viable workaround because you can easily
dawn and doff it (put it on and take it off) using two hands.
It stays on. No apparent risk of hanging. In my opinion, if
you must cope with a bully cat, it helps a lot. Could not be
easier to use. Especially good for when you are gone.
I just found this newsgroup,. Much of this post is simply wrong.
Now, think this through: The cat is, essentially, on three legs.
Nor can it jump reasonably. Nor can they avoid problems, threats or
other dangers reasonably. Your dwelling must not contain stairs, or
had better not contain stairs. That is problem A.
I had a cat who lost a rear leg to cancer. Post amputation, it could
run, jump, speed up stairs. Thier mobility is impaired far less than
believed. And this was a 16 year old who made it to 20.
Now, we can agree that you have a 'bully' cat. Where we disagree is
whether keeping it in the 'general population' is more desirable
than separation and gentling over time. If your dwelling is so
small as to prevent reasonable separation of problem cats, then you
have too many cats. And even if noble motives are the cause of such
crowding, you are past the point where 'doing good' outweighs the
obvious 'bad'. That is problem B.
And with too many cats what do you do? If it's a bully it's not going
to get a home, just dead.
Cats may be incredibly flexible and have a lot of cartilage where
we have hard bones - but that is not to suggest that a sudden
exertion due to panic or some other cause is out of the question.
And should such an event take place "while you are gone", anything
up to dislocation could occur. That is problem C.
Just wrong again. They can do most anything most other cats can do.
And what kind of "event" did you have in mind?
There are others - but they are less blatant.
Hi, we are hoping to regrow this group but we have some very strange
folks.
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