• 3 cats in a house

    From The Doctor@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 20 22:01:15 2021
    We have 3 cats.

    1) 10 years old. male. Still hunts. Does not use the litter box that much.

    Hate vets. Came in a 4 moths old. Sometimes out all night in the summer.


    2) 5 years. Male. Came in 3 years ago. Out all night at times.
    Stays near the house. Can hunt.

    3) 2-3 years old. Female. Had 9 kittens. spaded. Can hunt.
    Hates being held in hand.

    What should I be looking for?
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  • From Peter W.@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Thu Oct 21 06:12:11 2021
    Questions:

    a) The implication is that these cats came to you, and you did not seek them out, or adopt them from somewhere else. Is this correct?
    b) What sort of area are you in? And what region?
    c) Size & Weight?
    d) Do they have free access to the outside - such as a pet door? Or do you open doors for them to go in and out?

    Please note the interpolations.

    On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 6:01:17 PM UTC-4, The Doctor wrote:
    We have 3 cats.

    1) 10 years old. male. Still hunts. Does not use the litter box that much.

    Hate vets. Came in a 4 moths old. Sometimes out all night in the summer.

    Typical life-span, these days, for a properly vetted cat is +/- 20 years. For a cat, he is in his prime, approaching middle-age.

    2) 5 years. Male. Came in 3 years ago. Out all night at times.
    Stays near the house. Can hunt.

    As above.

    3) 2-3 years old. Female. Had 9 kittens. spaded. Can hunt.
    Hates being held in hand.

    Proper term is "spayed". How does she get along with the males?


    What should I be looking for?

    I would hope that the males are neutered.

    1. Outdoor cats, especially those that hunt are prone to getting parasites - which include, but are not limited to: Fleas, ticks, lice, round-worms, tape worms, heart-worms and many more. Make sure that they are on the correct systemics, and are
    regularly checked for any active parasites. Note that in some regions, fleas have become resistant to some of the more common systemics and collars. Do be sure that your vet gives you the correct items. Do not 'wing it' on your own.
    2. Make sure that their vaccinations are current and complete - this includes rabies wherever in the world you might be. And, as they are outdoor cats, that should include FLV, and if in most of the US, Lime disease.
    3. If there are any potential predators in your area, make sure that the cats are checked regularly for cuts or damage.
    4. Make sure that the cats have collars and tags. Microchips are nice, but invisible from the outside.

    Given the implied history, I will spare you the lecture on 'outdoor cats'. The fact of the matter is that cats are apex predators, albeit small ones, and live to hunt. The other fact is that in the US, cats are responsible for the destruction of *
    billions* of small animals and birds each year, and in some regions create serious environmental damage thereby. So, it is always a balance of many variables, being their health, safety, longevity, happiness and environmental concerns.

    Three cats can be difficult, as generally (not always) two will triangulate on the third in the pecking-order. This is less-so if the cats came to you, as they would have to be first accepted by the incumbents before actual admission. Intact males can be
    predatory towards kittens they have not fathered. Not always, but can be. And in some case, will fight over females, whether they are spayed or not. I am guessing you are not observing any of that behavior.

    Best of luck.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Peter W. on Thu Oct 21 15:25:45 2021
    In article <73a76049-9a55-4e7b-bde6-780f0ff6a743n@googlegroups.com>,
    Peter W. <peterwieck33@gmail.com> wrote:
    Questions:

    a) The implication is that these cats came to you, and you did not seek
    them out, or adopt them from somewhere else. Is this correct?

    Well we rescue cats from the street and they are welcome to stay
    . No fighting amongst them.


    b) What sort of area are you in? And what region?

    Urban in Alberta Canada

    c) Size & Weight?

    Cat 1 13 pounds a bit overweight but a big sized cat

    Cats 2 and 3 are smaller and normal.

    d) Do they have free access to the outside - such as a pet door? Or do
    you open doors for them to go in and out?

    Open the door. NO cat flap.


    Please note the interpolations.

    On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 6:01:17 PM UTC-4, The Doctor wrote:
    We have 3 cats.

    1) 10 years old. male. Still hunts. Does not use the litter box that much. >>
    Hate vets. Came in a 4 months old. Sometimes out all night in the summer.

    Typical life-span, these days, for a properly vetted cat is +/- 20
    years. For a cat, he is in his prime, approaching middle-age.

    Still has the hunt in him. I am not certain about his climbing prowess.


    2) 5 years. Male. Came in 3 years ago. Out all night at times.
    Stays near the house. Can hunt.

    As above.

    You cannot bribe him with treats.


    3) 2-3 years old. Female. Had 9 kittens. spaded. Can hunt.
    Hates being held in hand.

    Proper term is "spayed". How does she get along with the males?


    Quite well. A bit bossy but she is fun to watch.

    We cannot hold her up though.


    What should I be looking for?

    I would hope that the males are neutered.

    1. Outdoor cats, especially those that hunt are prone to getting
    parasites - which include, but are not limited to: Fleas, ticks, lice, >round-worms, tape worms, heart-worms and many more. Make sure that they
    are on the correct systemics, and are regularly checked for any active >parasites. Note that in some regions, fleas have become resistant to
    some of the more common systemics and collars. Do be sure that your vet
    gives you the correct items. Do not 'wing it' on your own.

    Flea collars are a good ides.

    2. Make sure that their vaccinations are current and complete - this
    includes rabies wherever in the world you might be. And, as they are
    outdoor cats, that should include FLV, and if in most of the US, Lime >disease.

    Vaccinated every year!

    3. If there are any potential predators in your area, make sure that
    the cats are checked regularly for cuts or damage.

    Coyotes and some birds, but agreed.

    4. Make sure that the cats have collars and tags. Microchips are nice,
    but invisible from the outside.


    All are licenced!

    Given the implied history, I will spare you the lecture on 'outdoor
    cats'. The fact of the matter is that cats are apex predators, albeit
    small ones, and live to hunt. The other fact is that in the US, cats
    are responsible for the destruction of *billions* of small animals and
    birds each year, and in some regions create serious environmental
    damage thereby. So, it is always a balance of many variables, being
    their health, safety, longevity, happiness and environmental concerns.

    Three cats can be difficult, as generally (not always) two will
    triangulate on the third in the pecking-order. This is less-so if the
    cats came to you, as they would have to be first accepted by the
    incumbents before actual admission. Intact males can be predatory
    towards kittens they have not fathered. Not always, but can be. And in
    some case, will fight over females, whether they are spayed or not. I
    am guessing you are not observing any of that behavior.

    Best of luck.

    Than kyou!
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  • From Peter W.@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 21 10:23:51 2021
    Flea collars are a good ides.

    Flea collars get fleas. Some get some ticks. Fewer get ticks and mites. None get worms or any internal parasites - which are silent killers. Look into a comprehensive systemic such as Revolution Plus, and perhaps Invermectin for certain worms if
    prevalent in your area. Let your vet make that call.

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    Questions:

    a) The implication is that these cats came to you, and you did not seek them out, or adopt them from somewhere else. Is this correct?
    b) What sort of area are you in? And what region?
    c) Size & Weight?
    d) Do they have free access to the outside - such as a pet door? Or do you open doors for them to go in and out?

    Please note the interpolations.

    On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 6:01:17 PM UTC-4, The Doctor wrote:
    We have 3 cats.

    1) 10 years old. male. Still hunts. Does not use the litter box that much
    .

    Hate vets. Came in a 4 moths old. Sometimes out all night in the summer.


    Typical life-span, these days, for a properly vetted cat is +/- 20 years. For a cat, he is in his prime, approaching middle-age.

    2) 5 years. Male. Came in 3 years ago. Out all night at times.
    Stays near the house. Can hunt.

    As above.

    3) 2-3 years old. Female. Had 9 kittens. spaded. Can hunt.
    Hates being held in hand.

    Proper term is "spayed". How does she get along with the males?


    What should I be looking for?

    I would hope that the males are neutered.

    1. Outdoor cats, especially those that hunt are prone to getting parasites - which include, but are not limited to: Fleas, ticks, lice, round-worms, tape worms, heart-worms and many more. Make sure that they are on the correct systemics, and are
    regularly checked for any active parasites. Note that in some regions, fleas have become resistant to some of the more common systemics and collars. Do be sure that your vet gives you the correct items. Do not 'wing it' on your own.
    2. Make sure that their vaccinations are current and complete - this includes rabies wherever in the world you might be. And, as they are outdoor cats, that should include FLV, and if in most of the US, Lime disease.
    3. If there are any potential predators in your area, make sure that the cats are checked regularly for cuts or damage.
    4. Make sure that the cats have collars and tags. Microchips are nice, but invisible from the outside.

    Given the implied history, I will spare you the lecture on 'outdoor cats'. The fact of the matter is that cats are apex predators, albeit small ones, and live to hunt. The other fact is that in the US, cats are responsible for the destruction of *
    billions* of small animals and birds each year, and in some regions create serious environmental damage thereby. So, it is always a balance of many variables, being their health, safety, longevity, happiness and environmental concerns.

    Three cats can be difficult, as generally (not always) two will triangulate on the third in the pecking-order. This is less-so if the cats came to you, as they would have to be first accepted by the incumbents before actual admission. Intact males can
    be predatory towards kittens they have not fathered. Not always, but can be. And in some case, will fight over females, whether they are spayed or not. I am guessing you are not observing any of that behavior.

    Best of luck.



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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Peter W. on Thu Oct 21 22:31:30 2021
    In article <b7607354-9a6a-4a45-94fe-93cc222dbb6dn@googlegroups.com>,
    Peter W. <peterwieck33@gmail.com> wrote:

    Flea collars are a good ides.

    Flea collars get fleas. Some get some ticks. Fewer get ticks and mites.
    None get worms or any internal parasites - which are silent killers.
    Look into a comprehensive systemic such as Revolution Plus, and perhaps >Invermectin for certain worms if prevalent in your area. Let your vet
    make that call.

    Got you!
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