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    From jmcquown@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 23 18:33:07 2024
    I'm about to bring home a semi-feral kitten. She lives somewhere
    outside the office building where I work. A friend who works in the
    building started feeding her at the top of the back stairs earlier this
    year. I've contributed food and make sure sure the bowl and water bowl
    are filled when my friend isn't around.

    The little cat is a Tortie who appears to be under a year old. We know
    she was part of a TNR program because she has a clipped ear which
    indicates she has been spayed.

    The cat, I call her Tessa (and she answers to it!) will come running
    when I call her. She's skittish, yet craves human affection. She rubs
    up against me (sheds all over my jeans!). She loves to get scritches on
    her neck and on her head by her ears. I sit outside on my lunch break
    and we spend time together. Then she goes back down the stairs to have
    a wash and goes back under the bushes into the shade to take a nap.

    I'm going to meet up with this friend tomorrow and we're going to get
    Tessa into a carrier and I'm going to bring her home with me.

    It's a long weekend so Tessa will have some time to get used to her new
    indoor home and to me. My question is, any suggestions how to litterbox
    train a young semi-feral cat?

    Jill

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sat May 25 17:56:44 2024
    jmcquown wrote:

    I'm about to bring home a semi-feral kitten. She lives somewhere
    outside the office building where I work. A friend who works in the
    building started feeding her at the top of the back stairs earlier
    this year. I've contributed food and make sure sure the bowl and
    water bowl are filled when my friend isn't around.

    The little cat is a Tortie who appears to be under a year old. We
    know she was part of a TNR program because she has a clipped ear
    which indicates she has been spayed.

    The cat, I call her Tessa (and she answers to it!) will come running
    when I call her. She's skittish, yet craves human affection. She
    rubs up against me (sheds all over my jeans!). She loves to get
    scritches on her neck and on her head by her ears. I sit outside on
    my lunch break and we spend time together. Then she goes back down
    the stairs to have a wash and goes back under the bushes into the
    shade to take a nap.

    I'm going to meet up with this friend tomorrow and we're going to get
    Tessa into a carrier and I'm going to bring her home with me.

    It's a long weekend so Tessa will have some time to get used to her
    new indoor home and to me. My question is, any suggestions how to
    litterbox train a young semi-feral cat?

    Jill

    Hi Jill! She *may* not be fully feral. Reacting to humans like that
    isn't an initial feral response. She may have had a human home as a
    kitten then gotten tossed out. I'd tend to follow basics of working
    with ferals here and see how it goes.

    By now, she's home with you I assume?

    Tactics for ferals. Deliberately make 'hidey holes' in every room. Do
    NOT let her out, short of the house burning down. She'll holler a lot
    about it, but ignore it.

    The hard one. Ignore the cat unless she comes to you deliberately.
    She needs to learn the house and that it's safe and that you won't grab
    at her all the time. Pull sofas out a bit to create caves behind them.
    Don't try the self-scooping electric cat pans. Just use the clumping
    type and put a few around, say, under a coffee table where she will
    feel protected but can escape easily.

    Don't freak out when she's hiding. They do that alot. She will come
    to you for happy scritches in time, but be patient.

    Good luck with Tessa!

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  • From jmcquown@21:1/5 to cshenk on Sat May 25 18:35:07 2024
    On 5/25/2024 1:56 PM, cshenk wrote:
    jmcquown wrote:

    I'm about to bring home a semi-feral kitten. She lives somewhere
    outside the office building where I work. A friend who works in the
    building started feeding her at the top of the back stairs earlier
    this year. I've contributed food and make sure sure the bowl and
    water bowl are filled when my friend isn't around.

    The little cat is a Tortie who appears to be under a year old. We
    know she was part of a TNR program because she has a clipped ear
    which indicates she has been spayed.

    The cat, I call her Tessa (and she answers to it!) will come running
    when I call her. She's skittish, yet craves human affection. She
    rubs up against me (sheds all over my jeans!). She loves to get
    scritches on her neck and on her head by her ears. I sit outside on
    my lunch break and we spend time together. Then she goes back down
    the stairs to have a wash and goes back under the bushes into the
    shade to take a nap.

    I'm going to meet up with this friend tomorrow and we're going to get
    Tessa into a carrier and I'm going to bring her home with me.

    It's a long weekend so Tessa will have some time to get used to her
    new indoor home and to me. My question is, any suggestions how to
    litterbox train a young semi-feral cat?

    Jill

    Hi Jill! She *may* not be fully feral. Reacting to humans like that
    isn't an initial feral response. She may have had a human home as a
    kitten then gotten tossed out. I'd tend to follow basics of working
    with ferals here and see how it goes.

    By now, she's home with you I assume?

    Tactics for ferals. Deliberately make 'hidey holes' in every room. Do
    NOT let her out, short of the house burning down. She'll holler a lot
    about it, but ignore it.

    The hard one. Ignore the cat unless she comes to you deliberately.
    She needs to learn the house and that it's safe and that you won't grab
    at her all the time. Pull sofas out a bit to create caves behind them.
    Don't try the self-scooping electric cat pans. Just use the clumping
    type and put a few around, say, under a coffee table where she will
    feel protected but can escape easily.

    Don't freak out when she's hiding. They do that alot. She will come
    to you for happy scritches in time, but be patient.

    Good luck with Tessa!

    Thanks, Carol. No, she's not home with me. Francesca and I spent over
    two hours yesterday trying to coax her into a carrier after putting her
    food in it. Tessa was having no part of that. It occurred to me we
    probably should have had the carrier with food & water inside sitting at
    the top of the landing all last week so she would get used to it being
    there and going into it to eat & drink and not find it threatening.
    Hindsight is 20/20.

    Francesca managed to catch a totally feral cat there last year using the
    same tatics (Babbo - she took him home with her). Tessa is smarter than
    that. She would not try to eat if either one of us was sitting next to
    the carrier. If we were sitting someplace away from it she would go in,
    grab a bite of food and take it down a couple of steps to eat it. It's
    pretty clear she knows what a carrier is, perhaps due to having been
    trapped in order to be spayed & released.

    Francesca is an esthetician and she had an appointment with a client so
    after the first 30 minutes it was mostly me sitting outside in over 90°
    temps trying to coax Tessa to go in and eat. Excessive heat makes me
    feel ill. I couldn't sit out there anymore.

    Francesca was working until 8:00 last night said and if she caught Tessa
    she'd keep her in her office overnight and call me. She didn't. She
    had appointments there today and said if she caught her she'd call me.
    I haven't heard from her.

    It started storming like crazy just after I left yesterday. It's been
    storming here all afternoon today. Lost power for almost an hour.
    Another storm is about to blow through. It's that time of year here.

    Anyway, I had really hoped I could bring Tessa home so she wouldn't have
    to be out in the nasty weather anymore. I had also hoped we could do it
    this weekend because I don't normally work on Friday's and Monday is a
    holiday. A nice long weekend for her to get acclaimated!

    YES, I'd let her hide and explore as she saw fit. Get used to her new surroundings and to me. No way in hell would I have let her go outside,
    no matter how much she cried. That would totally defeat the purpose.

    Had I gotten her home I had planned to open the carrier in my bedroom
    (which is where I always fed Persia and later Buffy), right in front of
    the filled food & water bowls. She'd likely have hidden under the bed
    but with the food/water right there...

    I know all about ignoring the cat and letting her figure things out. I
    sure as heck wouldn't be trying to grab her! I'd call her name from
    time to time while sitting here at the computer or while in the other
    room reading a book, but other than that, I'd leave her be. She craves
    human attention enough she'd have eventually come looking for me. :)
    She also would have run off again but I know she'd be checking to see
    where I am.

    As for litterbox training, the litterbox is in the area where the tub &
    toilet are in the master bathroom. I had hoped to call her into that
    room and scratch in the litter with my hand to show it to her. I read
    several articles that said for a semi-feral, associating eating with the
    litter box is a good way to help them figure it out.

    We're going to leave the carrier where it is at the office and feed her
    from it go from there. The nice long weekend to introduce her to her
    new home would have been advantageous, though.

    Jill

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to jmcquown on Sun May 26 16:40:15 2024
    jmcquown wrote:

    On 5/25/2024 1:56 PM, cshenk wrote:
    jmcquown wrote:

    I'm about to bring home a semi-feral kitten. She lives somewhere
    outside the office building where I work. A friend who works in
    the building started feeding her at the top of the back stairs
    earlier this year. I've contributed food and make sure sure the
    bowl and water bowl are filled when my friend isn't around.

    The little cat is a Tortie who appears to be under a year old. We
    know she was part of a TNR program because she has a clipped ear
    which indicates she has been spayed.

    The cat, I call her Tessa (and she answers to it!) will come
    running when I call her. She's skittish, yet craves human
    affection. She rubs up against me (sheds all over my jeans!).
    She loves to get scritches on her neck and on her head by her
    ears. I sit outside on my lunch break and we spend time
    together. Then she goes back down the stairs to have a wash and
    goes back under the bushes into the shade to take a nap.

    I'm going to meet up with this friend tomorrow and we're going to
    get Tessa into a carrier and I'm going to bring her home with me.

    It's a long weekend so Tessa will have some time to get used to
    her new indoor home and to me. My question is, any suggestions
    how to litterbox train a young semi-feral cat?

    Jill

    Hi Jill! She may not be fully feral. Reacting to humans like that
    isn't an initial feral response. She may have had a human home as a
    kitten then gotten tossed out. I'd tend to follow basics of working
    with ferals here and see how it goes.

    By now, she's home with you I assume?

    Tactics for ferals. Deliberately make 'hidey holes' in every room.
    Do NOT let her out, short of the house burning down. She'll holler
    a lot about it, but ignore it.

    The hard one. Ignore the cat unless she comes to you deliberately.
    She needs to learn the house and that it's safe and that you won't
    grab at her all the time. Pull sofas out a bit to create caves
    behind them. Don't try the self-scooping electric cat pans. Just
    use the clumping type and put a few around, say, under a coffee
    table where she will feel protected but can escape easily.

    Don't freak out when she's hiding. They do that alot. She will
    come to you for happy scritches in time, but be patient.

    Good luck with Tessa!

    Thanks, Carol. No, she's not home with me. Francesca and I spent
    over two hours yesterday trying to coax her into a carrier after
    putting her food in it. Tessa was having no part of that. It
    occurred to me we probably should have had the carrier with food &
    water inside sitting at the top of the landing all last week so she
    would get used to it being there and going into it to eat & drink and
    not find it threatening. Hindsight is 20/20.

    Yes, and if possible have another person. Enticing Tessa into the box
    will be hard, she might need the grab with a fluffy towel and put the
    whole thing in. If possible, try to be out of sight so she doesn't
    associate capture with you.

    Francesca managed to catch a totally feral cat there last year using
    the same tatics (Babbo - she took him home with her). Tessa is
    smarter than that. She would not try to eat if either one of us was
    sitting next to the carrier. If we were sitting someplace away from
    it she would go in, grab a bite of food and take it down a couple of
    steps to eat it. It's pretty clear she knows what a carrier is,
    perhaps due to having been trapped in order to be spayed & released.

    Yup. I couldn't bring the carrier in the room to capture Daisy-chan,
    and this was trues her whole life but it seems Tessa isn't fully wild
    (took a year to get Daisy chan to accept scritches and never a
    stranger).

    Francesca is an esthetician and she had an appointment with a client
    so after the first 30 minutes it was mostly me sitting outside in
    over 90° temps trying to coax Tessa to go in and eat. Excessive heat
    makes me feel ill. I couldn't sit out there anymore.

    Francesca was working until 8:00 last night said and if she caught
    Tessa she'd keep her in her office overnight and call me. She
    didn't. She had appointments there today and said if she caught her
    she'd call me. I haven't heard from her.

    It started storming like crazy just after I left yesterday. It's
    been storming here all afternoon today. Lost power for almost an
    hour. Another storm is about to blow through. It's that time of year
    here.

    Anyway, I had really hoped I could bring Tessa home so she wouldn't
    have to be out in the nasty weather anymore. I had also hoped we
    could do it this weekend because I don't normally work on Friday's
    and Monday is a holiday. A nice long weekend for her to get
    acclaimated!

    YES, I'd let her hide and explore as she saw fit. Get used to her
    new surroundings and to me. No way in hell would I have let her go
    outside, no matter how much she cried. That would totally defeat the purpose.

    Had I gotten her home I had planned to open the carrier in my bedroom
    (which is where I always fed Persia and later Buffy), right in front
    of the filled food & water bowls. She'd likely have hidden under the
    bed but with the food/water right there...

    Good place.

    I know all about ignoring the cat and letting her figure things out.
    I sure as heck wouldn't be trying to grab her! I'd call her name
    from time to time while sitting here at the computer or while in the
    other room reading a book, but other than that, I'd leave her be.
    She craves human attention enough she'd have eventually come looking
    for me. :) She also would have run off again but I know she'd be
    checking to see where I am.

    Yup. Daisy-chan was well tracked with 6 different home fosters over 12
    months. She'd completely hide for 6 weeks then come out mostly to
    attack other cats or toddlers. She wanted to be an 'only cat'. If I
    got it right, you are currently cat-free? There is no reason to expect
    Tessa to be like that and her age bodes well to accept a kitten after
    she's calmed down. You'll be a fine meowmie again!


    As for litterbox training, the litterbox is in the area where the tub
    & toilet are in the master bathroom. I had hoped to call her into
    that room and scratch in the litter with my hand to show it to her.
    I read several articles that said for a semi-feral, associating
    eating with the litter box is a good way to help them figure it out.

    Yup, different rooms.

    Oh, on the very off chance Tessa won't adapt to cat litter, washable
    cat pads are the solution. Wet spots turn darker blue on mine. We
    generally go through 2 a day and have them ontop a web-like rubber mat
    (gorilla mat) to make the slip-free. Let me know if it's a problem and
    I'll send you links to the right stuff. They look like nice bath mats.

    We're going to leave the carrier where it is at the office and feed
    her from it go from there. The nice long weekend to introduce her to
    her new home would have been advantageous, though.

    Jill

    Good luck!

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