Alison wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net> wrote in message news:wbydnROQVZNFFrvPnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@giganews.com...

Alison wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

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Hey there. The hell with the folks who say we can't turn this into
pet chat.

How'd it turn out with your dogs?

After Unca Sammy died, 2.5 years later Aunti Mabel passed. We added
Iowna in May. She's blind in her remaning eye (gentimycin treated)
but our main problem is she is utterly bold and climbs stuff.

Iowna is 11yo and went blind age 9. She was past all the drama
before we got her.

She settled right in with Cash and Daisy-chan.

Carol >>

Hi Carol,
Well done for adopting elderly, disabled dogs!
I have three dogs now. I have old Dibby , who is chi sized and in
his mid teens. he was attacked by two dogs a few weeks ago and lucky
not to have had stitches. Poor baby ! Pip who is a JRt x about 4 now
and he is a good dog and most recently Libby, a "rough haired" Chi
who is about 18 months who is a real madam but very cute ! She is
house trained now and less reactive to people but tends to do her nut
when she sees other dogs .

Alison

LOl, I hit the wrong key and old messages showed up.

Any of us old guard still here? Iowna is. She'll be 14 in a few
months. Cash is fine too as is Daisy-chan the cat.

Carol

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cshenk <cshenk1@cox.net> wrote:

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LOl, I hit the wrong key and old messages showed up.

Any of us old guard still here? Iowna is. She'll be 14 in a few
months. Cash is fine too as is Daisy-chan the cat.

Carol

FIW myself and Peanut are still around, though she is feeling her age
even more than myself.

Bill Clodius

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On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 15:21:08 -0600, "cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net> wrote:

LOl, I hit the wrong key and old messages showed up.
Any of us old guard still here? Iowna is. She'll be 14 in a few
months. Cash is fine too as is Daisy-chan the cat.

We're down to 1 dog and no cats. Balim, our English cocker spaniel,
will complete her 10th year in June. She's doing fine--a little too
fine perhaps. Since we put her on Hills mobility kibble about six
weeks ago she's recovered a spryness that sometimes tires me out and
makes me wish they had something like that for us humans.

--
Bob
The joint that time is out of
www.kanyak.com

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"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net> writes:
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LOl, I hit the wrong key and old messages showed up.

Might turn out to be a happy accident!

Any of us old guard still here? Iowna is. She'll be 14 in a few
months. Cash is fine too as is Daisy-chan the cat.

I'm not old guard in that I don't think I was around then, but I've been
reding the group for some time, though there are hardly any posts.

We got a young rescue Staffie when our old and dear Staffie died a year
ago. Because she was rather untrained, un-socialised and boisterous, I
took her to the local obedience club and she been working her way though
the Kennel Club Good Citizen scheme.

I enjoyed it so much that I've started to try my had at instructing at
the club which exposes you to a very wide range of dogs and dog
behaviour. Never a dull moment!

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Ben.

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William Clodius wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

cshenk <cshenk1@cox.net> wrote:

<snip>

LOl, I hit the wrong key and old messages showed up.

Any of us old guard still here? Iowna is. She'll be 14 in a few
months. Cash is fine too as is Daisy-chan the cat.

Carol

FIW myself and Peanut are still around, though she is feeling her age
even more than myself.

Bill Clodius

Glad to see you Bill!

I saw old notes from Alison. She wanted to chat but there were
contraints that made us not really do that (one of the members didnt
like it). She seems gone but maybe now, we can?

I'd like to hear how Peanut is and yourself as well. I want to hear
your good and funny stories and the days where you learned something.

I'm well here. Retired from the Navy now and working as a contractor
as a SQL programmer. Learned a lot about blind dogs after adopting
one. They for example are a lot easier than deaf ones in the end.

Carol

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Opinicus wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 15:21:08 -0600, "cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net> wrote:

LOl, I hit the wrong key and old messages showed up.
Any of us old guard still here? Iowna is. She'll be 14 in a few
months. Cash is fine too as is Daisy-chan the cat.

We're down to 1 dog and no cats. Balim, our English cocker spaniel,
will complete her 10th year in June. She's doing fine--a little too
fine perhaps. Since we put her on Hills mobility kibble about six
weeks ago she's recovered a spryness that sometimes tires me out and
makes me wish they had something like that for us humans.

Snicker, I love it!

I am into beagles and they tend to be long lived.

When we got Iowna (blind age 9, adopted age 11) we had to bolt
bookshelves to the walls for the first time since Charlotte was a
toddler. Yup, she was a climber. We'd find her 4 rows up. We tried
to block her with bungee cords and she used those to jump.

Well, she's almost 14 now and on Tramadol for arthritis. No more
climbing much. I can tell tales of when she did though!

Carol

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Ben wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

"cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net> writes:
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LOl, I hit the wrong key and old messages showed up.

Might turn out to be a happy accident!

Any of us old guard still here? Iowna is. She'll be 14 in a few
months. Cash is fine too as is Daisy-chan the cat.

I'm not old guard in that I don't think I was around then, but I've
been reding the group for some time, though there are hardly any
posts.

We got a young rescue Staffie when our old and dear Staffie died a
year ago. Because she was rather untrained, un-socialised and
boisterous, I took her to the local obedience club and she been
working her way though the Kennel Club Good Citizen scheme.

I enjoyed it so much that I've started to try my had at instructing at
the club which exposes you to a very wide range of dogs and dog
behaviour. Never a dull moment!

Smile, welcome! Naw, ya don't have to be old guard. In fact, some of
the old guard are why the place was dead of traffic.

You'd probably have fun learning the differences in dogs. Blind ones
can be interesting and a lot of care can be needed. They can't do the
'flight' part of fright so care is needed to keep them from that.

Hehe Iowna doesnt need the good neighbor schema and Cash is so mellow
if a dog barks in his face, he'll just put his head on a pillow and go
to sleep.

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William Clodius <w.clodius@icloud.com> wrote:

cshenk <cshenk1@cox.net> wrote:
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Our past few years have been difficult. Our other dog, Smokey, had
always had problems with dominance and a high startle response.
Initially the startle problems were largely confined to me. Once my
oldest had left for college, and my youngest got ready for college, he
became my responsibility. I am easily distracted, and have a benign
essential tremor. As a result I would sometimes make a mistake in
putting on his prong collar. Initially putting on the collar would never
be a problem, but if after putting it on I had to readjust it I would sometimes get a bite that seemed to an automatic response that to me
seemed fear based. My youngest, myself, and my wife had different ideas
about dogs and we had trouble implementing a consistent approach towards
his problems. The problems rapidly became unacceptable after a rattle
snake bite to her face. The vets found it impossible to handle her while
she was in pain from the bite. Aterwards she had fear aggression in
normal visits to the vets so it would soon become difficult to maintain
his shots. Then unexpected hand motions near his head by people other
than myself could provke bites. In the end he had to be put to sleep.
<snip>

I don't know why I sometimes referred to smokey as her above, except
that Peanut also had a snake bite.

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cshenk <cshenk1@cox.net> wrote:

William Clodius wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

cshenk <cshenk1@cox.net> wrote:

<snip>

LOl, I hit the wrong key and old messages showed up.

Any of us old guard still here? Iowna is. She'll be 14 in a few
months. Cash is fine too as is Daisy-chan the cat.

Carol

FIW myself and Peanut are still around, though she is feeling her age
even more than myself.

Bill Clodius

Glad to see you Bill!

Thank you. Its good to see you too.

I saw old notes from Alison. She wanted to chat but there were
contraints that made us not really do that (one of the members didnt
like it). She seems gone but maybe now, we can?

Newsgroups such ath this one were supposed to have a focus, but it is
difficult to maintain that focus without moderators, and difficult to
find moderators without either their own agendas, or a lack of the
patience needed to maintain their role for more than a couple of years.
When I found this newsgroup around 2002 It had a reasonable volume of knowledgeable posts on topic, one or two frequent trolls, such as Jerry,
that could be handled with a kill file. There weere also a couple of
regular posters who weren't trolls, but weren't willing to accept their limitations, and easily got involved in public spats. About 2006-2007
the volume of posts started declining, due to a combination of the
availability of other forums, and a lack of patience with the spats.

Yours' and Alison's posts were far from significant problems, but in the
end they were about the only posts appearing in this newsgroup, and that
made them a symbol of how far the group had deviated from its mission. I
kept this newgroup on my list, because the lack of postings meant that
keeping it wasn't a problem though the rare postings that appeared were
rarely on topic.

I'd like to hear how Peanut is and yourself as well. I want to hear your
good and funny stories and the days where you learned something.

I don;t have anything to say that is particularly good and funny, but I
do want to bring you and anyone else here that remembers me up to date.

Our past few years have been difficult. Our other dog, Smokey, had
always had problems with dominance and a high startle response.
Initially the startle problems were largely confined to me. Once my
oldest had left for college, and my youngest got ready for college, he
became my responsibility. I am easily distracted, and have a benign
essential tremor. As a result I would sometimes make a mistake in
putting on his prong collar. Initially putting on the collar would never
be a problem, but if after putting it on I had to readjust it I would
sometimes get a bite that seemed to an automatic response that to me
seemed fear based. My youngest, myself, and my wife had different ideas
about dogs and we had trouble implementing a consistent approach towards
his problems. The problems rapidly became unacceptable after a rattle
snake bite to her face. The vets found it impossible to handle her while
she was in pain from the bite. Aterwards she had fear aggression in
normal visits to the vets so it would soon become difficult to maintain
his shots. Then unexpected hand motions near his head by people other
than myself could provke bites. In the end he had to be put to sleep.

Peanut has never been a problem with people, but she has had her share
of other problems. About four years ago, before Smokey's snakebite, she
started developing anxiety on car rides. Then after Smokey was gone she developed immunal mediated hemolytic anemia (IMHA). After two blood transfusions and a year and a quaarter of gradually weaning her off of
imunal suppressant medications, she has been free of that problem, but
near the end of that treatment she started to show a strong flee
response in the presence of high pitched beeps from smoke alarm
batteries dieing, and some TV programs. Then she had a rattlesnake bite
on her face. Then she developed glaucoma (high eyeball pressure in her
left eye) that turned out to be an unusual type of cancer behind the
eye. We now have a pirate dog that is no longer afraid of high pitched
beeps, but still is anxious on car rides.

My dautghters, who used to be in 4H animal training with our dogs, have
now both completed their undergraduate studies. My oldest is now in her
second year of Vet school, and has a dog of her own. My youngest is a
research assistant in a field related to her major and is thinking about graduate school. She has a cat.

I'm well here. Retired from the Navy now and working as a contractor
as a SQL programmer. Learned a lot about blind dogs after adopting
one. They for example are a lot easier than deaf ones in the end.

Carol

Good to here. Most of my former coworkers of my age have retired, but I
am still working for now.

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William Clodius wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

cshenk <cshenk1@cox.net> wrote:

William Clodius wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

cshenk <cshenk1@cox.net> wrote:

<snip>

LOl, I hit the wrong key and old messages showed up.

Any of us old guard still here? Iowna is. She'll be 14 in a
few months. Cash is fine too as is Daisy-chan the cat.

Carol

FIW myself and Peanut are still around, though she is feeling her
age even more than myself.

Bill Clodius

Glad to see you Bill!

Thank you. Its good to see you too.

I saw old notes from Alison. She wanted to chat but there were
contraints that made us not really do that (one of the members didnt
like it). She seems gone but maybe now, we can?

Newsgroups such ath this one were supposed to have a focus, but it is difficult to maintain that focus without moderators, and difficult to
find moderators without either their own agendas, or a lack of the
patience needed to maintain their role for more than a couple of
years. When I found this newsgroup around 2002 It had a reasonable
volume of knowledgeable posts on topic, one or two frequent trolls,
such as Jerry, that could be handled with a kill file. There weere
also a couple of regular posters who weren't trolls, but weren't
willing to accept their limitations, and easily got involved in
public spats. About 2006-2007 the volume of posts started declining,
due to a combination of the availability of other forums, and a lack
of patience with the spats.

Yours' and Alison's posts were far from significant problems, but in
the end they were about the only posts appearing in this newsgroup,
and that made them a symbol of how far the group had deviated from
its mission. I kept this newgroup on my list, because the lack of
postings meant that keeping it wasn't a problem though the rare
postings that appeared were rarely on topic.

I'd like to hear how Peanut is and yourself as well. I want to hear
your good and funny stories and the days where you learned
something.

I don;t have anything to say that is particularly good and funny, but
I do want to bring you and anyone else here that remembers me up to
date.

Our past few years have been difficult. Our other dog, Smokey, had
always had problems with dominance and a high startle response.
Initially the startle problems were largely confined to me. Once my
oldest had left for college, and my youngest got ready for college, he
became my responsibility. I am easily distracted, and have a benign
essential tremor. As a result I would sometimes make a mistake in
putting on his prong collar. Initially putting on the collar would
never be a problem, but if after putting it on I had to readjust it I
would sometimes get a bite that seemed to an automatic response that
to me seemed fear based. My youngest, myself, and my wife had
different ideas about dogs and we had trouble implementing a
consistent approach towards his problems. The problems rapidly became unacceptable after a rattle snake bite to her face. The vets found it impossible to handle her while she was in pain from the bite.
Aterwards she had fear aggression in normal visits to the vets so it
would soon become difficult to maintain his shots. Then unexpected
hand motions near his head by people other than myself could provke
bites. In the end he had to be put to sleep.

Peanut has never been a problem with people, but she has had her share
of other problems. About four years ago, before Smokey's snakebite,
she started developing anxiety on car rides. Then after Smokey was
gone she developed immunal mediated hemolytic anemia (IMHA). After
two blood transfusions and a year and a quaarter of gradually weaning
her off of imunal suppressant medications, she has been free of that
problem, but near the end of that treatment she started to show a
strong flee response in the presence of high pitched beeps from smoke
alarm batteries dieing, and some TV programs. Then she had a
rattlesnake bite on her face. Then she developed glaucoma (high
eyeball pressure in her left eye) that turned out to be an unusual
type of cancer behind the eye. We now have a pirate dog that is no
longer afraid of high pitched beeps, but still is anxious on car
rides.

My dautghters, who used to be in 4H animal training with our dogs,
have now both completed their undergraduate studies. My oldest is now
in her second year of Vet school, and has a dog of her own. My
youngest is a research assistant in a field related to her major and
is thinking about graduate school. She has a cat.

I'm well here. Retired from the Navy now and working as a
contractor as a SQL programmer. Learned a lot about blind dogs
after adopting one. They for example are a lot easier than deaf
ones in the end.

Carol

Good to here. Most of my former coworkers of my age have retired, but
I am still working for now.

Grin, it's been a time since this group had much activity. Dogman meant
well but the group was suffering by the time I came in (2008) and he
regularily shut folks down on any more discussion. I suspect he was
reaching to the older volume but had lost the users that generated it?

Meantime, I have learned a fair amount about blind dogs and how to
train them as well as how to safe a house around them. I'm today
sitting 2 blind 3 year olds. Glaucoma, same litter, irresponsible
breeder who apparently bred a glaucoma doxie to a glaucoma doxie and
fellow didnt know it when he bought 'purebred' doxies.

He didnt know where to take them when they understandably freaked out
at the noice of a jack hammer removing a diveway at the same time as a
tree being taken out. So, he sees me walking Iowna (blind) all the
time and tried here.

If you recall Cash, the heartworm dog, he's still here. He was allowed
to run with a slow bicycle for many years but now, age 9+ (not
determined) the vet prefers a human jog speed. He has a heart murmer
that has been intermittant on test catching it, since we got him in
2008.

I'm not sure on rattlesnake bites but luckily I liver where such isnt
an issue!

Carol

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William Clodius wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

cshenk <cshenk1@cox.net> wrote:

<snip>

LOl, I hit the wrong key and old messages showed up.

Any of us old guard still here? Iowna is. She'll be 14 in a few
months. Cash is fine too as is Daisy-chan the cat.

Carol

FIW myself and Peanut are still around, though she is feeling her age
even more than myself.

Bill Clodius

Hey Bill, I'm working with a lady on diets and a big one at this age
can be anti-oxident boosters. Check www.monicasegal.com

Iowna turns 14 on 2 July.

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cshenk <cshenk1@cox.net> wrote:

William Clodius wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
<snip>

Hey Bill, I'm working with a lady on diets and a big one at this age
can be anti-oxident boosters. Check www.monicasegal.com

Iowna turns 14 on 2 July.

We think Peanut turns 14 around July 4. We got her at about 12 weeks on
Labour day. FWIW my vet student daughter says that Peanut is currently
on a Pro-biotic diet with anti-oxidants.

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William Clodius wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

cshenk <cshenk1@cox.net> wrote:

William Clodius wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
<snip>

Hey Bill, I'm working with a lady on diets and a big one at this age
can be anti-oxident boosters. Check www.monicasegal.com

Iowna turns 14 on 2 July.

We think Peanut turns 14 around July 4. We got her at about 12 weeks
on Labour day. FWIW my vet student daughter says that Peanut is
currently on a Pro-biotic diet with anti-oxidants.

Yes, pro-biotics if there are digestive issues. Iowna has no digestive
issues but has serious arthritis.

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