Bwah Hah Hah
https://www.foxnews.com/media/bud-light-deactivates-comments-latest-country-themed-ad-dylan-mulvaney-backlash
George Anthony wrote:
Bwah Hah Hah
https://www.foxnews.com/media/bud-light-deactivates-comments-latest-country-themed-ad-dylan-mulvaney-backlash
At the end of the day going forward, I allege that it might be time
for TB to dump his Advertising Consultant license.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
I still expect that Budweiser will eventually come out solidly opposed to bigotry. If nothing else, I expect far right nutcases to force them into that position.
On 5/2/2023 10:14 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
I still expect that Budweiser will eventually come out solidly opposed to bigotry. If nothing else, I expect far right nutcases to force them into that position.Not bigotry unless you're a science denier. To be bigotry it would need
to have to have an unreasonable characteristic in the objection. The
only unreasonable issue is that men can become women. Which is your
position and that of the rest of your crazy friends. Since science says
they can't, standing up for science is not unreasonable, and many would consider it honorable. Things like standing up for traditional
families, letting children grow up free from the grooming of left wing perverts, and not pretending you can change who you are once you're born
are all reasonable things to intelligent people. Feel free to live as
you choose, but don't expect everyone will play along just because you
call us bigots. We live in the real world and don't care.
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 8:41:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:effective. The friend I mentioned is living a happy productive life. I think she probably fell into the latter category. Her hormones were a bit wonky and she already had a very slim feminine body. He father's hormone balance was even more wonky. Except
On 5/2/2023 10:14 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
I still expect that Budweiser will eventually come out solidly opposed to bigotry. If nothing else, I expect far right nutcases to force them into that position.Not bigotry unless you're a science denier. To be bigotry it would need
to have to have an unreasonable characteristic in the objection. The
only unreasonable issue is that men can become women. Which is your
position and that of the rest of your crazy friends. Since science says
they can't, standing up for science is not unreasonable, and many would
consider it honorable. Things like standing up for traditional
families, letting children grow up free from the grooming of left wing
perverts, and not pretending you can change who you are once you're born
are all reasonable things to intelligent people. Feel free to live as
you choose, but don't expect everyone will play along just because you
call us bigots. We live in the real world and don't care.
There is no science that explains what causes gender dysphoria. From what I have seen I suspect that there are many different causes, ranging from insanity to small differences in brain chemistry. There is only one known cure and it's highly
Despite our labels gender is not strictly black or white. Many people fall somewhere in between.
On 5/2/2023 12:11 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:effective. The friend I mentioned is living a happy productive life. I think she probably fell into the latter category. Her hormones were a bit wonky and she already had a very slim feminine body. He father's hormone balance was even more wonky. Except
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 8:41:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/2/2023 10:14 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
I still expect that Budweiser will eventually come out solidly opposed to bigotry. If nothing else, I expect far right nutcases to force them into that position.Not bigotry unless you're a science denier. To be bigotry it would need >> to have to have an unreasonable characteristic in the objection. The
only unreasonable issue is that men can become women. Which is your
position and that of the rest of your crazy friends. Since science says >> they can't, standing up for science is not unreasonable, and many would >> consider it honorable. Things like standing up for traditional
families, letting children grow up free from the grooming of left wing
perverts, and not pretending you can change who you are once you're born >> are all reasonable things to intelligent people. Feel free to live as
you choose, but don't expect everyone will play along just because you
call us bigots. We live in the real world and don't care.
There is no science that explains what causes gender dysphoria. From what I have seen I suspect that there are many different causes, ranging from insanity to small differences in brain chemistry. There is only one known cure and it's highly
Can post a link, but a study came out last week showing a majority of
these people had parents with mental health issues. That's the category
your he/she friend falls into.
Despite our labels gender is not strictly black or white. Many people fall somewhere in between.Not really. There are two genders and many mental health disorders.
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 8:00:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:effective. The friend I mentioned is living a happy productive life. I think she probably fell into the latter category. Her hormones were a bit wonky and she already had a very slim feminine body. He father's hormone balance was even more wonky. Except
On 5/2/2023 12:11 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 8:41:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/2/2023 10:14 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
I still expect that Budweiser will eventually come out solidly opposed to bigotry. If nothing else, I expect far right nutcases to force them into that position.Not bigotry unless you're a science denier. To be bigotry it would need >>>> to have to have an unreasonable characteristic in the objection. The
only unreasonable issue is that men can become women. Which is your
position and that of the rest of your crazy friends. Since science says >>>> they can't, standing up for science is not unreasonable, and many would >>>> consider it honorable. Things like standing up for traditional
families, letting children grow up free from the grooming of left wing >>>> perverts, and not pretending you can change who you are once you're born >>>> are all reasonable things to intelligent people. Feel free to live as
you choose, but don't expect everyone will play along just because you >>>> call us bigots. We live in the real world and don't care.
There is no science that explains what causes gender dysphoria. From what I have seen I suspect that there are many different causes, ranging from insanity to small differences in brain chemistry. There is only one known cure and it's highly
Can post a link, but a study came out last week showing a majority of
these people had parents with mental health issues. That's the category
your he/she friend falls into.
Despite our labels gender is not strictly black or white. Many people fall somewhere in between.Not really. There are two genders and many mental health disorders.
"Intersex" is just one example. I don't expect you to understand much. You obviously think in terms of stark black and white.
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/whats-intersex#:~:text=What%20does%20intersex%20mean%3F,male%E2%80%9D%20or%20%E2%80%9Cfemale%E2%80%9D.
On 5/3/2023 6:06 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:effective. The friend I mentioned is living a happy productive life. I think she probably fell into the latter category. Her hormones were a bit wonky and she already had a very slim feminine body. He father's hormone balance was even more wonky. Except
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 8:00:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/2/2023 12:11 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 8:41:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/2/2023 10:14 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
I still expect that Budweiser will eventually come out solidly opposed to bigotry. If nothing else, I expect far right nutcases to force them into that position.Not bigotry unless you're a science denier. To be bigotry it would need >>>> to have to have an unreasonable characteristic in the objection. The >>>> only unreasonable issue is that men can become women. Which is your >>>> position and that of the rest of your crazy friends. Since science says >>>> they can't, standing up for science is not unreasonable, and many would >>>> consider it honorable. Things like standing up for traditional
families, letting children grow up free from the grooming of left wing >>>> perverts, and not pretending you can change who you are once you're born
are all reasonable things to intelligent people. Feel free to live as >>>> you choose, but don't expect everyone will play along just because you >>>> call us bigots. We live in the real world and don't care.
There is no science that explains what causes gender dysphoria. From what I have seen I suspect that there are many different causes, ranging from insanity to small differences in brain chemistry. There is only one known cure and it's highly
Can post a link, but a study came out last week showing a majority of
these people had parents with mental health issues. That's the category >> your he/she friend falls into.
Despite our labels gender is not strictly black or white. Many people fall somewhere in between.Not really. There are two genders and many mental health disorders.
"Intersex" is just one example. I don't expect you to understand much. You obviously think in terms of stark black and white.I knew you would say this. Intersex is not a gender. It is a condition
and doctors can perform procedures if the patient wishes to correct this
and assign a particular gender. There are two: male and/or female.
Duh. You got any more stupid shit to say?
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/whats-intersex#:~:text=What%20does%20intersex%20mean%3F,male%E2%80%9D%20or%20%E2%80%9Cfemale%E2%80%9D.
Link not read. PlannedButcherHood had nothing to say of value.
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 5:40:28 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:effective. The friend I mentioned is living a happy productive life. I think she probably fell into the latter category. Her hormones were a bit wonky and she already had a very slim feminine body. He father's hormone balance was even more wonky. Except
On 5/3/2023 6:06 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 8:00:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/2/2023 12:11 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 8:41:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/2/2023 10:14 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
I still expect that Budweiser will eventually come out solidly opposed to bigotry. If nothing else, I expect far right nutcases to force them into that position.Not bigotry unless you're a science denier. To be bigotry it would need >>>>>> to have to have an unreasonable characteristic in the objection. The >>>>>> only unreasonable issue is that men can become women. Which is your >>>>>> position and that of the rest of your crazy friends. Since science says >>>>>> they can't, standing up for science is not unreasonable, and many would >>>>>> consider it honorable. Things like standing up for traditional
families, letting children grow up free from the grooming of left wing >>>>>> perverts, and not pretending you can change who you are once you're born >>>>>> are all reasonable things to intelligent people. Feel free to live as >>>>>> you choose, but don't expect everyone will play along just because you >>>>>> call us bigots. We live in the real world and don't care.
There is no science that explains what causes gender dysphoria. From what I have seen I suspect that there are many different causes, ranging from insanity to small differences in brain chemistry. There is only one known cure and it's highly
No surgeon can turn you into a woman. What makes you a man or a woman or something in between is what's going on in your head. The doctors haven't figured out how to change that.I knew you would say this. Intersex is not a gender. It is a conditionCan post a link, but a study came out last week showing a majority of
these people had parents with mental health issues. That's the category >>>> your he/she friend falls into.
Despite our labels gender is not strictly black or white. Many people fall somewhere in between.Not really. There are two genders and many mental health disorders.
"Intersex" is just one example. I don't expect you to understand much. You obviously think in terms of stark black and white.
and doctors can perform procedures if the patient wishes to correct this
and assign a particular gender. There are two: male and/or female.
Duh. You got any more stupid shit to say?
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/whats-intersex#:~:text=What%20does%20intersex%20mean%3F,male%E2%80%9D%20or%20%E2%80%9Cfemale%E2%80%9D.
Link not read. PlannedButcherHood had nothing to say of value.
Plastic surgery has never changed anyone's gender. The doctors can "assign" a physical gender, but that will not change what's going on in someone's head. There have been many cases where the doctors "assigned" a gender and turned out to be wrong.
TB
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 5:40:28 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:effective. The friend I mentioned is living a happy productive life. I think she probably fell into the latter category. Her hormones were a bit wonky and she already had a very slim feminine body. He father's hormone balance was even more wonky. Except
On 5/3/2023 6:06 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 8:00:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/2/2023 12:11 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 8:41:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/2/2023 10:14 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
I still expect that Budweiser will eventually come out solidly opposed to bigotry. If nothing else, I expect far right nutcases to force them into that position.Not bigotry unless you're a science denier. To be bigotry it would need >>>>>> to have to have an unreasonable characteristic in the objection. The >>>>>> only unreasonable issue is that men can become women. Which is your >>>>>> position and that of the rest of your crazy friends. Since science says >>>>>> they can't, standing up for science is not unreasonable, and many would >>>>>> consider it honorable. Things like standing up for traditional
families, letting children grow up free from the grooming of left wing >>>>>> perverts, and not pretending you can change who you are once you're born >>>>>> are all reasonable things to intelligent people. Feel free to live as >>>>>> you choose, but don't expect everyone will play along just because you >>>>>> call us bigots. We live in the real world and don't care.
There is no science that explains what causes gender dysphoria. From what I have seen I suspect that there are many different causes, ranging from insanity to small differences in brain chemistry. There is only one known cure and it's highly
I knew you would say this. Intersex is not a gender. It is a conditionCan post a link, but a study came out last week showing a majority of
these people had parents with mental health issues. That's the category >>>> your he/she friend falls into.
Despite our labels gender is not strictly black or white. Many people fall somewhere in between.Not really. There are two genders and many mental health disorders.
"Intersex" is just one example. I don't expect you to understand much. You obviously think in terms of stark black and white.
and doctors can perform procedures if the patient wishes to correct this
and assign a particular gender. There are two: male and/or female.
Duh. You got any more stupid shit to say?
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/whats-intersex#:~:text=What%20does%20intersex%20mean%3F,male%E2%80%9D%20or%20%E2%80%9Cfemale%E2%80%9D.
Link not read. PlannedButcherHood had nothing to say of value.
Plastic surgery has never changed anyone's gender.
The doctors can "assign" a physical gender, but that will not change what's going on in someone's head.
There have been many cases where the doctors "assigned" a gender and turned out to be wrong.
No surgeon can turn you into a woman. What makes you a man or a woman or something in between is what's going on in your head. The doctors haven't figured out how to change that.
On 5/4/2023 9:04 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 5:40:28 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/3/2023 6:06 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 8:00:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:I knew you would say this. Intersex is not a gender. It is a condition
On 5/2/2023 12:11 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 8:41:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:Can post a link, but a study came out last week showing a majority of >>>>> these people had parents with mental health issues. That's the
On 5/2/2023 10:14 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
I still expect that Budweiser will eventually come out solidly >>>>>>>> opposed to bigotry. If nothing else, I expect far right nutcases >>>>>>>> to force them into that position.Not bigotry unless you're a science denier. To be bigotry it
would need
to have to have an unreasonable characteristic in the objection. The >>>>>>> only unreasonable issue is that men can become women. Which is your >>>>>>> position and that of the rest of your crazy friends. Since
science says
they can't, standing up for science is not unreasonable, and many >>>>>>> would
consider it honorable. Things like standing up for traditional
families, letting children grow up free from the grooming of left >>>>>>> wing
perverts, and not pretending you can change who you are once
you're born
are all reasonable things to intelligent people. Feel free to
live as
you choose, but don't expect everyone will play along just
because you
call us bigots. We live in the real world and don't care.
There is no science that explains what causes gender dysphoria.
From what I have seen I suspect that there are many different
causes, ranging from insanity to small differences in brain
chemistry. There is only one known cure and it's highly effective. >>>>>> The friend I mentioned is living a happy productive life. I think
she probably fell into the latter category. Her hormones were a
bit wonky and she already had a very slim feminine body. He
father's hormone balance was even more wonky. Except for his
former wife, we were all surprised to find out he was a deeply
closeted gay man.
category
your he/she friend falls into.
Despite our labels gender is not strictly black or white. ManyNot really. There are two genders and many mental health disorders.
people fall somewhere in between.
"Intersex" is just one example. I don't expect you to understand
much. You obviously think in terms of stark black and white.
and doctors can perform procedures if the patient wishes to correct this >>> and assign a particular gender. There are two: male and/or female.
Duh. You got any more stupid shit to say?
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/whats-intersex#:~:text=What%20does%20intersex%20mean%3F,male%E2%80%9D%20or%20%E2%80%9Cfemale%E2%80%9D.
Link not read. PlannedButcherHood had nothing to say of value.
Plastic surgery has never changed anyone's gender. The doctors
can "assign" a physical gender, but that will not change what's going
on in someone's head. There have been many cases where the doctors
"assigned" a gender and turned out to be wrong. No surgeon can turn
you into a woman. What makes you a man or a woman or something in
between is what's going on in your head. The doctors haven't figured
out how to change that.
TB
NO! What makes you a man or woman is what you were born with. I don't
care what people think they are or want to be that's how it is.
I seldom agree with Bill Maher but this really nails it.
“... kids do have phases. Kids are fluid about eveything. If they know
at age 8 what they wanted to be, the world would be filled with cowboys
and princesses.” He recalled, “I wanted to be a pirate. Thank God no one scheduled me for eye removal and peg leg surgery.” - Bill Maher
On 5/4/2023 9:04 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 5:40:28 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/3/2023 6:06 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 8:00:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:I knew you would say this. Intersex is not a gender. It is a condition
On 5/2/2023 12:11 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 8:41:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:Can post a link, but a study came out last week showing a majority of >>>>> these people had parents with mental health issues. That's the
On 5/2/2023 10:14 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
I still expect that Budweiser will eventually come out solidly >>>>>>>> opposed to bigotry. If nothing else, I expect far right nutcases >>>>>>>> to force them into that position.Not bigotry unless you're a science denier. To be bigotry it
would need
to have to have an unreasonable characteristic in the objection. The >>>>>>> only unreasonable issue is that men can become women. Which is your >>>>>>> position and that of the rest of your crazy friends. Since
science says
they can't, standing up for science is not unreasonable, and many >>>>>>> would
consider it honorable. Things like standing up for traditional
families, letting children grow up free from the grooming of left >>>>>>> wing
perverts, and not pretending you can change who you are once
you're born
are all reasonable things to intelligent people. Feel free to
live as
you choose, but don't expect everyone will play along just
because you
call us bigots. We live in the real world and don't care.
There is no science that explains what causes gender dysphoria.
From what I have seen I suspect that there are many different
causes, ranging from insanity to small differences in brain
chemistry. There is only one known cure and it's highly effective. >>>>>> The friend I mentioned is living a happy productive life. I think
she probably fell into the latter category. Her hormones were a
bit wonky and she already had a very slim feminine body. He
father's hormone balance was even more wonky. Except for his
former wife, we were all surprised to find out he was a deeply
closeted gay man.
category
your he/she friend falls into.
Despite our labels gender is not strictly black or white. ManyNot really. There are two genders and many mental health disorders.
people fall somewhere in between.
"Intersex" is just one example. I don't expect you to understand
much. You obviously think in terms of stark black and white.
and doctors can perform procedures if the patient wishes to correct this >>> and assign a particular gender. There are two: male and/or female.
Duh. You got any more stupid shit to say?
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/whats-intersex#:~:text=What%20does%20intersex%20mean%3F,male%E2%80%9D%20or%20%E2%80%9Cfemale%E2%80%9D.
Link not read. PlannedButcherHood had nothing to say of value.
Plastic surgery has never changed anyone's gender.
What did your friend cut his dick off for them?
The doctors can "assign" a physical gender, but that will not change
what's going on in someone's head.
I would hope not. I don't know why a man would cut off his pecker if he didn't already think he was not a man.
There have been many cases where the doctors "assigned" a gender and
turned out to be wrong.
There certainly have been cases where intersex individuals who had
procedures performed on them have gone on to wish they had the opposite procedure. So what? They have a biological condition that is rare and
one would hope those involved did they best they could with a difficult situation.
No surgeon can turn you into a woman. What makes you a man or a woman
or something in between is what's going on in your head. The doctors
haven't figured out how to change that.
Hogwash. Of course a surgery will not turn you into a woman if you were born a man. You will ALWAYS be a man. You just won't have your Peter anymore. Feel free to act however you wish, get counseling to fit into society, sue everyone who doesn't understand things the way you think
they should, and live as if you were a woman. You'd still be a man.
Your view of what gender is, is a relatively new idea. Historically, it
was used to mean the same thing as "sex." Yet in more conservative
times, sex also meant the act of sexual intercourse. In the 1970's
academia invented this new concept of gender as referring to the way an individual presents themselves in society. In the 2010's it made it's
way to the general public and the left has taken advantage of this to
rally it's base on several fronts. Leftists have a way of distorting
truth for political purposes and this isn't surprising. The two main features of this distortion of reality and using mental illness to gain
power are the destruction of the typical american family and continued attacks on religion and people of faith.
Feel free to believe your man friend is now a woman, not because he cut
his dick off, but because he says so. His 23rd chromosome says different.
Liberalism has co-opted the English language to make everything sound
more acceptable, e.g., gay vs. homosexual, trans vs. transvestite,
gender vs. sex, little people vs midget, physically challenged vs. handicapped, mentally challenged vs. progressive, progressive vs.
liberal, liberal vs. ...dumb ass.
Redefining or renaming doesn't change what it is.
On 5/4/2023 9:04 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:effective. The friend I mentioned is living a happy productive life. I think she probably fell into the latter category. Her hormones were a bit wonky and she already had a very slim feminine body. He father's hormone balance was even more wonky. Except
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 5:40:28 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/3/2023 6:06 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 8:00:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/2/2023 12:11 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 8:41:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/2/2023 10:14 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
I still expect that Budweiser will eventually come out solidly opposed to bigotry. If nothing else, I expect far right nutcases to force them into that position.Not bigotry unless you're a science denier. To be bigotry it would need
to have to have an unreasonable characteristic in the objection. The >>>>>> only unreasonable issue is that men can become women. Which is your >>>>>> position and that of the rest of your crazy friends. Since science says
they can't, standing up for science is not unreasonable, and many would
consider it honorable. Things like standing up for traditional
families, letting children grow up free from the grooming of left wing
perverts, and not pretending you can change who you are once you're born
are all reasonable things to intelligent people. Feel free to live as >>>>>> you choose, but don't expect everyone will play along just because you
call us bigots. We live in the real world and don't care.
There is no science that explains what causes gender dysphoria. From what I have seen I suspect that there are many different causes, ranging from insanity to small differences in brain chemistry. There is only one known cure and it's highly
I knew you would say this. Intersex is not a gender. It is a conditionCan post a link, but a study came out last week showing a majority of >>>> these people had parents with mental health issues. That's the category >>>> your he/she friend falls into.
Despite our labels gender is not strictly black or white. Many people fall somewhere in between.Not really. There are two genders and many mental health disorders.
"Intersex" is just one example. I don't expect you to understand much. You obviously think in terms of stark black and white.
and doctors can perform procedures if the patient wishes to correct this >> and assign a particular gender. There are two: male and/or female.
Duh. You got any more stupid shit to say?
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/whats-intersex#:~:text=What%20does%20intersex%20mean%3F,male%E2%80%9D%20or%20%E2%80%9Cfemale%E2%80%9D.
Link not read. PlannedButcherHood had nothing to say of value.
Plastic surgery has never changed anyone's gender.What did your friend cut his dick off for them?
The doctors can "assign" a physical gender, but that will not change what's going on in someone's head.I would hope not. I don't know why a man would cut off his pecker if he didn't already think he was not a man.
There have been many cases where the doctors "assigned" a gender and turned out to be wrong.There certainly have been cases where intersex individuals who had procedures performed on them have gone on to wish they had the opposite procedure. So what? They have a biological condition that is rare and
one would hope those involved did they best they could with a difficult situation.
No surgeon can turn you into a woman. What makes you a man or a woman or something in between is what's going on in your head. The doctors haven't figured out how to change that.Hogwash. Of course a surgery will not turn you into a woman if you were
born a man. You will ALWAYS be a man. You just won't have your Peter anymore. Feel free to act however you wish, get counseling to fit into society, sue everyone who doesn't understand things the way you think
they should, and live as if you were a woman. You'd still be a man.
Your view of what gender is, is a relatively new idea. Historically, it
was used to mean the same thing as "sex." Yet in more conservative
times, sex also meant the act of sexual intercourse. In the 1970's
academia invented this new concept of gender as referring to the way an individual presents themselves in society. In the 2010's it made it's
way to the general public and the left has taken advantage of this to
rally it's base on several fronts. Leftists have a way of distorting
truth for political purposes and this isn't surprising. The two main features of this distortion of reality and using mental illness to gain power are the destruction of the typical american family and continued attacks on religion and people of faith.
Feel free to believe your man friend is now a woman, not because he cut
his dick off, but because he says so. His 23rd chromosome says different.
On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 10:58:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:effective. The friend I mentioned is living a happy productive life. I think she probably fell into the latter category. Her hormones were a bit wonky and she already had a very slim feminine body. He father's hormone balance was even more wonky. Except
On 5/4/2023 9:04 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 5:40:28 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/3/2023 6:06 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 8:00:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/2/2023 12:11 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 8:41:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/2/2023 10:14 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
I still expect that Budweiser will eventually come out solidly opposed to bigotry. If nothing else, I expect far right nutcases to force them into that position.Not bigotry unless you're a science denier. To be bigotry it would need
to have to have an unreasonable characteristic in the objection. The >>>>>>>> only unreasonable issue is that men can become women. Which is your >>>>>>>> position and that of the rest of your crazy friends. Since science says
they can't, standing up for science is not unreasonable, and many would
consider it honorable. Things like standing up for traditional >>>>>>>> families, letting children grow up free from the grooming of left wing >>>>>>>> perverts, and not pretending you can change who you are once you're born
are all reasonable things to intelligent people. Feel free to live as >>>>>>>> you choose, but don't expect everyone will play along just because you >>>>>>>> call us bigots. We live in the real world and don't care.
There is no science that explains what causes gender dysphoria. From what I have seen I suspect that there are many different causes, ranging from insanity to small differences in brain chemistry. There is only one known cure and it's highly
She had been taking drugs to suppress the testosterone, but there are limits on how long you can do that without causing liver damage. That will probably be her only surgical procedure. She was thrilled when her breasts grew to a 'C' cup. Cocks are aWhat did your friend cut his dick off for them?I knew you would say this. Intersex is not a gender. It is a condition >>>> and doctors can perform procedures if the patient wishes to correct this >>>> and assign a particular gender. There are two: male and/or female.Can post a link, but a study came out last week showing a majority of >>>>>> these people had parents with mental health issues. That's the category >>>>>> your he/she friend falls into."Intersex" is just one example. I don't expect you to understand much. You obviously think in terms of stark black and white.
Despite our labels gender is not strictly black or white. Many people fall somewhere in between.Not really. There are two genders and many mental health disorders. >>>>>
Duh. You got any more stupid shit to say?
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/whats-intersex#:~:text=What%20does%20intersex%20mean%3F,male%E2%80%9D%20or%20%E2%80%9Cfemale%E2%80%9D.
Link not read. PlannedButcherHood had nothing to say of value.
Plastic surgery has never changed anyone's gender.
The doctors can "assign" a physical gender, but that will not change what's going on in someone's head.I would hope not. I don't know why a man would cut off his pecker if he
didn't already think he was not a man.
There have been many cases where the doctors "assigned" a gender and turned out to be wrong.There certainly have been cases where intersex individuals who had
procedures performed on them have gone on to wish they had the opposite
procedure. So what? They have a biological condition that is rare and
one would hope those involved did they best they could with a difficult
situation.
No surgeon can turn you into a woman. What makes you a man or a woman or something in between is what's going on in your head. The doctors haven't figured out how to change that.Hogwash. Of course a surgery will not turn you into a woman if you were
born a man. You will ALWAYS be a man. You just won't have your Peter
anymore. Feel free to act however you wish, get counseling to fit into
society, sue everyone who doesn't understand things the way you think
they should, and live as if you were a woman. You'd still be a man.
Your view of what gender is, is a relatively new idea. Historically, it
was used to mean the same thing as "sex." Yet in more conservative
times, sex also meant the act of sexual intercourse. In the 1970's
academia invented this new concept of gender as referring to the way an
individual presents themselves in society. In the 2010's it made it's
way to the general public and the left has taken advantage of this to
rally it's base on several fronts. Leftists have a way of distorting
truth for political purposes and this isn't surprising. The two main
features of this distortion of reality and using mental illness to gain
power are the destruction of the typical american family and continued
attacks on religion and people of faith.
Feel free to believe your man friend is now a woman, not because he cut
his dick off, but because he says so. His 23rd chromosome says different.
I hope you understand that I do not expect to convince you of anything. That rarely happens here, if ever. For me this is just a mental exercise and I hope maybe someone else might find something of value here.
Trans people are not all alike. They don't all get the same procedures for a variety of reasons. Our friend had to have her balls cut off because she didn't want all that testosterone to make her look like a man. She really didn't want a beard.
There are no magic tricks. They can't bolt new parts onto a trans person. The just rearrange what you have. Some of the transmen might get the same equipment an impotent man might use. Otherwise they just make the original equipment lookdifferent. I know a transman in Tucson who I trust more than most CIS men. He has only had top surgery. He has a beard and you wouldn't spot him in a crowd. His wife is just fine with what they have.
Despite outward appearances, much like pleasure and pain, gender is all in your head. Even though I may say I let the small head do too much thinking for me, it really doesn't think at all. For example, even if your genitals fell off, you wouldstill think you were a man. When someone says they are worried about their masculinity do you think they're afraid their genitals might fall off or do you think they're worried about something going on in their head?
You are wrong about history. Gender dysphoria has a long history in a variety of cultures. Here the indigenous people refer to them has "two spirit people". They have seen this for a long time. There is not stigma attached to this and theymight even be considered to be special in some way. For example, amphibians were considered special, because they could live in two different environments.
I wish biology was somewhere as close to as perfect as you think it is. It isn't.
On 5/4/2023 9:59 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:effective. The friend I mentioned is living a happy productive life. I think she probably fell into the latter category. Her hormones were a bit wonky and she already had a very slim feminine body. He father's hormone balance was even more wonky. Except
On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 10:58:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/4/2023 9:04 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 5:40:28 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/3/2023 6:06 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 8:00:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/2/2023 12:11 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 8:41:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote: >>>>>>>> On 5/2/2023 10:14 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
I still expect that Budweiser will eventually come out solidly opposed to bigotry. If nothing else, I expect far right nutcases to force them into that position.Not bigotry unless you're a science denier. To be bigotry it would need
to have to have an unreasonable characteristic in the objection. The
only unreasonable issue is that men can become women. Which is your >>>>>>>> position and that of the rest of your crazy friends. Since science says
they can't, standing up for science is not unreasonable, and many would
consider it honorable. Things like standing up for traditional >>>>>>>> families, letting children grow up free from the grooming of left wing
perverts, and not pretending you can change who you are once you're born
are all reasonable things to intelligent people. Feel free to live as
you choose, but don't expect everyone will play along just because you
call us bigots. We live in the real world and don't care.
There is no science that explains what causes gender dysphoria. From what I have seen I suspect that there are many different causes, ranging from insanity to small differences in brain chemistry. There is only one known cure and it's highly
had been taking drugs to suppress the testosterone, but there are limits on how long you can do that without causing liver damage. That will probably be her only surgical procedure. She was thrilled when her breasts grew to a 'C' cup. Cocks are aWhat did your friend cut his dick off for them?I knew you would say this. Intersex is not a gender. It is a condition >>>> and doctors can perform procedures if the patient wishes to correct thisCan post a link, but a study came out last week showing a majority of >>>>>> these people had parents with mental health issues. That's the category"Intersex" is just one example. I don't expect you to understand much. You obviously think in terms of stark black and white.
your he/she friend falls into.
Despite our labels gender is not strictly black or white. Many people fall somewhere in between.Not really. There are two genders and many mental health disorders. >>>>>
and assign a particular gender. There are two: male and/or female.
Duh. You got any more stupid shit to say?
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/whats-intersex#:~:text=What%20does%20intersex%20mean%3F,male%E2%80%9D%20or%20%E2%80%9Cfemale%E2%80%9D.
Link not read. PlannedButcherHood had nothing to say of value.
Plastic surgery has never changed anyone's gender.
The doctors can "assign" a physical gender, but that will not change what's going on in someone's head.I would hope not. I don't know why a man would cut off his pecker if he >> didn't already think he was not a man.
There have been many cases where the doctors "assigned" a gender and turned out to be wrong.There certainly have been cases where intersex individuals who had
procedures performed on them have gone on to wish they had the opposite >> procedure. So what? They have a biological condition that is rare and
one would hope those involved did they best they could with a difficult >> situation.
No surgeon can turn you into a woman. What makes you a man or a woman or something in between is what's going on in your head. The doctors haven't figured out how to change that.Hogwash. Of course a surgery will not turn you into a woman if you were >> born a man. You will ALWAYS be a man. You just won't have your Peter
anymore. Feel free to act however you wish, get counseling to fit into
society, sue everyone who doesn't understand things the way you think
they should, and live as if you were a woman. You'd still be a man.
Your view of what gender is, is a relatively new idea. Historically, it >> was used to mean the same thing as "sex." Yet in more conservative
times, sex also meant the act of sexual intercourse. In the 1970's
academia invented this new concept of gender as referring to the way an >> individual presents themselves in society. In the 2010's it made it's
way to the general public and the left has taken advantage of this to
rally it's base on several fronts. Leftists have a way of distorting
truth for political purposes and this isn't surprising. The two main
features of this distortion of reality and using mental illness to gain >> power are the destruction of the typical american family and continued
attacks on religion and people of faith.
Feel free to believe your man friend is now a woman, not because he cut >> his dick off, but because he says so. His 23rd chromosome says different.
I hope you understand that I do not expect to convince you of anything. That rarely happens here, if ever. For me this is just a mental exercise and I hope maybe someone else might find something of value here.
Trans people are not all alike. They don't all get the same procedures for a variety of reasons. Our friend had to have her balls cut off because she didn't want all that testosterone to make her look like a man. She really didn't want a beard. She
know a transman in Tucson who I trust more than most CIS men. He has only had top surgery. He has a beard and you wouldn't spot him in a crowd. His wife is just fine with what they have.There are no magic tricks. They can't bolt new parts onto a trans person. The just rearrange what you have. Some of the transmen might get the same equipment an impotent man might use. Otherwise they just make the original equipment look different. I
think you were a man. When someone says they are worried about their masculinity do you think they're afraid their genitals might fall off or do you think they're worried about something going on in their head?Despite outward appearances, much like pleasure and pain, gender is all in your head. Even though I may say I let the small head do too much thinking for me, it really doesn't think at all. For example, even if your genitals fell off, you would still
be considered to be special in some way. For example, amphibians were considered special, because they could live in two different environments.You are wrong about history. Gender dysphoria has a long history in a variety of cultures. Here the indigenous people refer to them has "two spirit people". They have seen this for a long time. There is not stigma attached to this and they might even
I wish biology was somewhere as close to as perfect as you think it is. It isn't.Mental or psychiatric disorders are quite common. This does not make
them either "normal" or untreatable. Gender dysphoria is basically a psychological disorder, and yes is biological, since all brain activity
is biological in nature. Schizophrenia, anxiety disorders, obsessive compulsive disorder, bipolar affective disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder, psychosis, and even depression and paranoia are all similarly classified as psychiatric disorders. Yet none of these are treated with
the kid gloves as the people with gender dysphoria get. They are all obviously unhealty, NOT normal, and have a root cause the doctor will investigate and try to treat. The goal being to make the patient, and
the people around them, able to live safely and comfortably in this
world. It is now considered unethical for those treating these gender confused people to suggest a transgender person to be cisgender. Gender identity conversion therapy is now illegal in some places and punishable with jail time, though most people have only heard of the religious affiliated groups trying to help people un-Gay themselves. Milo
Yiannopoulos is probably the most well know case of this.
My point is this. It is not normal, but a disorder. You can believe otherwise and live in a world where it is considered normal. We are
already there. But it is not because of true science. I truly feel for people who experience this dysphoria, and hope treatment of ANY kind
helps them individually. Most people simply don't care how others
choose to live.
What I DO object to is two-fold. First, thrusting it into the public
sphere and forcing it down our throats while claiming trans people are unsafe and need protection. This is a lie. They already have all the protection they need, and I would suggest the public needs protection
from the militant part of this cult. The can do what they want, just
don't expect others to embrace it any more than religious people would expect atheists to embrace their preaching.
Second, this "normalization" of this disorder I believe is harmful to
our children. You can't look at the rising statistics of the young
people claiming they have this disorder and not wonder what has changed
that so many people are jumping on this bandwagon. It is being pushed
on our children and peer pressure is involved in many immature and not
fully developed brains to make permanent and life altering decisions.
This is intentional and it is criminal. That I will stand against. Let
them grow up. The adults can do whatever crazy shit they want to
themselves.
On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 8:36:03 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:effective. The friend I mentioned is living a happy productive life. I think she probably fell into the latter category. Her hormones were a bit wonky and she already had a very slim feminine body. He father's hormone balance was even more wonky. Except
On 5/4/2023 9:59 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 10:58:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/4/2023 9:04 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 5:40:28 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/3/2023 6:06 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 8:00:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/2/2023 12:11 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 8:41:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 5/2/2023 10:14 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
I still expect that Budweiser will eventually come out solidly opposed to bigotry. If nothing else, I expect far right nutcases to force them into that position.Not bigotry unless you're a science denier. To be bigotry it would need
to have to have an unreasonable characteristic in the objection. The >>>>>>>>>> only unreasonable issue is that men can become women. Which is your >>>>>>>>>> position and that of the rest of your crazy friends. Since science says
they can't, standing up for science is not unreasonable, and many would
consider it honorable. Things like standing up for traditional >>>>>>>>>> families, letting children grow up free from the grooming of left wing
perverts, and not pretending you can change who you are once you're born
are all reasonable things to intelligent people. Feel free to live as
you choose, but don't expect everyone will play along just because you
call us bigots. We live in the real world and don't care.
There is no science that explains what causes gender dysphoria. From what I have seen I suspect that there are many different causes, ranging from insanity to small differences in brain chemistry. There is only one known cure and it's highly
had been taking drugs to suppress the testosterone, but there are limits on how long you can do that without causing liver damage. That will probably be her only surgical procedure. She was thrilled when her breasts grew to a 'C' cup. Cocks are aI hope you understand that I do not expect to convince you of anything. That rarely happens here, if ever. For me this is just a mental exercise and I hope maybe someone else might find something of value here.What did your friend cut his dick off for them?I knew you would say this. Intersex is not a gender. It is a condition >>>>>> and doctors can perform procedures if the patient wishes to correct this >>>>>> and assign a particular gender. There are two: male and/or female. >>>>>> Duh. You got any more stupid shit to say?Can post a link, but a study came out last week showing a majority of >>>>>>>> these people had parents with mental health issues. That's the category"Intersex" is just one example. I don't expect you to understand much. You obviously think in terms of stark black and white.
your he/she friend falls into.
Despite our labels gender is not strictly black or white. Many people fall somewhere in between.Not really. There are two genders and many mental health disorders. >>>>>>>
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/whats-intersex#:~:text=What%20does%20intersex%20mean%3F,male%E2%80%9D%20or%20%E2%80%9Cfemale%E2%80%9D.
Link not read. PlannedButcherHood had nothing to say of value.
Plastic surgery has never changed anyone's gender.
The doctors can "assign" a physical gender, but that will not change what's going on in someone's head.I would hope not. I don't know why a man would cut off his pecker if he >>>> didn't already think he was not a man.
There have been many cases where the doctors "assigned" a gender and turned out to be wrong.There certainly have been cases where intersex individuals who had
procedures performed on them have gone on to wish they had the opposite >>>> procedure. So what? They have a biological condition that is rare and
one would hope those involved did they best they could with a difficult >>>> situation.
No surgeon can turn you into a woman. What makes you a man or a woman or something in between is what's going on in your head. The doctors haven't figured out how to change that.Hogwash. Of course a surgery will not turn you into a woman if you were >>>> born a man. You will ALWAYS be a man. You just won't have your Peter
anymore. Feel free to act however you wish, get counseling to fit into >>>> society, sue everyone who doesn't understand things the way you think
they should, and live as if you were a woman. You'd still be a man.
Your view of what gender is, is a relatively new idea. Historically, it >>>> was used to mean the same thing as "sex." Yet in more conservative
times, sex also meant the act of sexual intercourse. In the 1970's
academia invented this new concept of gender as referring to the way an >>>> individual presents themselves in society. In the 2010's it made it's
way to the general public and the left has taken advantage of this to
rally it's base on several fronts. Leftists have a way of distorting
truth for political purposes and this isn't surprising. The two main
features of this distortion of reality and using mental illness to gain >>>> power are the destruction of the typical american family and continued >>>> attacks on religion and people of faith.
Feel free to believe your man friend is now a woman, not because he cut >>>> his dick off, but because he says so. His 23rd chromosome says different. >>>
Trans people are not all alike. They don't all get the same procedures for a variety of reasons. Our friend had to have her balls cut off because she didn't want all that testosterone to make her look like a man. She really didn't want a beard. She
know a transman in Tucson who I trust more than most CIS men. He has only had top surgery. He has a beard and you wouldn't spot him in a crowd. His wife is just fine with what they have.
There are no magic tricks. They can't bolt new parts onto a trans person. The just rearrange what you have. Some of the transmen might get the same equipment an impotent man might use. Otherwise they just make the original equipment look different. I
think you were a man. When someone says they are worried about their masculinity do you think they're afraid their genitals might fall off or do you think they're worried about something going on in their head?
Despite outward appearances, much like pleasure and pain, gender is all in your head. Even though I may say I let the small head do too much thinking for me, it really doesn't think at all. For example, even if your genitals fell off, you would still
be considered to be special in some way. For example, amphibians were considered special, because they could live in two different environments.
You are wrong about history. Gender dysphoria has a long history in a variety of cultures. Here the indigenous people refer to them has "two spirit people". They have seen this for a long time. There is not stigma attached to this and they might even
Mental or psychiatric disorders are quite common. This does not make
I wish biology was somewhere as close to as perfect as you think it is. It isn't.
them either "normal" or untreatable. Gender dysphoria is basically a
psychological disorder, and yes is biological, since all brain activity
is biological in nature. Schizophrenia, anxiety disorders, obsessive
compulsive disorder, bipolar affective disorder, post-traumatic stress
disorder, psychosis, and even depression and paranoia are all similarly
classified as psychiatric disorders. Yet none of these are treated with
the kid gloves as the people with gender dysphoria get. They are all
obviously unhealty, NOT normal, and have a root cause the doctor will
investigate and try to treat. The goal being to make the patient, and
the people around them, able to live safely and comfortably in this
world. It is now considered unethical for those treating these gender
confused people to suggest a transgender person to be cisgender. Gender
identity conversion therapy is now illegal in some places and punishable
with jail time, though most people have only heard of the religious
affiliated groups trying to help people un-Gay themselves. Milo
Yiannopoulos is probably the most well know case of this.
My point is this. It is not normal, but a disorder. You can believe
otherwise and live in a world where it is considered normal. We are
already there. But it is not because of true science. I truly feel for
people who experience this dysphoria, and hope treatment of ANY kind
helps them individually. Most people simply don't care how others
choose to live.
What I DO object to is two-fold. First, thrusting it into the public
sphere and forcing it down our throats while claiming trans people are
unsafe and need protection. This is a lie. They already have all the
protection they need, and I would suggest the public needs protection
from the militant part of this cult. The can do what they want, just
don't expect others to embrace it any more than religious people would
expect atheists to embrace their preaching.
Second, this "normalization" of this disorder I believe is harmful to
our children. You can't look at the rising statistics of the young
people claiming they have this disorder and not wonder what has changed
that so many people are jumping on this bandwagon. It is being pushed
on our children and peer pressure is involved in many immature and not
fully developed brains to make permanent and life altering decisions.
This is intentional and it is criminal. That I will stand against. Let
them grow up. The adults can do whatever crazy shit they want to
themselves.
These discussions aren't totally useless for me. I learn a lot from them. You have MUCH higher regard for "normal" than me. From > my point of view "normal" is massively overrated.
I'm not normal in many different ways.I don't need anyone else to be not normal like me to validate my existence. (Some people are, and > > that can be fun.) Some people don't need to be cured or at least cured from abnormal in all of the ways you mean.Some of the intersex people like the way they were born. Some folks like being somewhere in between.
For me the most interesting thing about this discussion was your mention of your
religion being under attack. It seems like a strange concept to me. I'm a pagan. I never worry about my religion. It takes care of itself. To me the biggest problem with your religion is that we have too many sanctimonious bible thumpers who,if theyhave ever read it, clearly DO NOT understand the words in it--and too few actual Christians. You are a prime example. You clearly do not know it by heart, so I strongly suggest you look up the 11th commandment. It's supposed to be Christ's actual words
If your religion was even a tiny fraction as good as you think it is you would never have to worry about anyone attacking it--ever.
On 5/5/2023 4:37 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:effective. The friend I mentioned is living a happy productive life. I think she probably fell into the latter category. Her hormones were a bit wonky and she already had a very slim feminine body. He father's hormone balance was even more wonky. Except
On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 8:36:03 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/4/2023 9:59 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 10:58:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/4/2023 9:04 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 5:40:28 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/3/2023 6:06 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 8:00:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote: >>>>>>>> On 5/2/2023 12:11 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 8:41:13 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 5/2/2023 10:14 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
There is no science that explains what causes gender dysphoria. From what I have seen I suspect that there are many different causes, ranging from insanity to small differences in brain chemistry. There is only one known cure and it's highlyI still expect that Budweiser will eventually come out solidly opposed to bigotry. If nothing else, I expect far right nutcases to force them into that position.Not bigotry unless you're a science denier. To be bigotry it would need
to have to have an unreasonable characteristic in the objection. The
only unreasonable issue is that men can become women. Which is your
position and that of the rest of your crazy friends. Since science says
they can't, standing up for science is not unreasonable, and many would
consider it honorable. Things like standing up for traditional >>>>>>>>>> families, letting children grow up free from the grooming of left wing
perverts, and not pretending you can change who you are once you're born
are all reasonable things to intelligent people. Feel free to live as
you choose, but don't expect everyone will play along just because you
call us bigots. We live in the real world and don't care. >>>>>>>>>
had been taking drugs to suppress the testosterone, but there are limits on how long you can do that without causing liver damage. That will probably be her only surgical procedure. She was thrilled when her breasts grew to a 'C' cup. Cocks are aWhat did your friend cut his dick off for them?I knew you would say this. Intersex is not a gender. It is a conditionCan post a link, but a study came out last week showing a majority of"Intersex" is just one example. I don't expect you to understand much. You obviously think in terms of stark black and white.
these people had parents with mental health issues. That's the category
your he/she friend falls into.
Despite our labels gender is not strictly black or white. Many people fall somewhere in between.Not really. There are two genders and many mental health disorders. >>>>>>>
and doctors can perform procedures if the patient wishes to correct this
and assign a particular gender. There are two: male and/or female. >>>>>> Duh. You got any more stupid shit to say?
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/whats-intersex#:~:text=What%20does%20intersex%20mean%3F,male%E2%80%9D%20or%20%E2%80%9Cfemale%E2%80%9D.
Link not read. PlannedButcherHood had nothing to say of value.
Plastic surgery has never changed anyone's gender.
The doctors can "assign" a physical gender, but that will not change what's going on in someone's head.I would hope not. I don't know why a man would cut off his pecker if he >>>> didn't already think he was not a man.
There have been many cases where the doctors "assigned" a gender and turned out to be wrong.There certainly have been cases where intersex individuals who had
procedures performed on them have gone on to wish they had the opposite >>>> procedure. So what? They have a biological condition that is rare and >>>> one would hope those involved did they best they could with a difficult >>>> situation.
No surgeon can turn you into a woman. What makes you a man or a woman or something in between is what's going on in your head. The doctors haven't figured out how to change that.Hogwash. Of course a surgery will not turn you into a woman if you were >>>> born a man. You will ALWAYS be a man. You just won't have your Peter >>>> anymore. Feel free to act however you wish, get counseling to fit into >>>> society, sue everyone who doesn't understand things the way you think >>>> they should, and live as if you were a woman. You'd still be a man. >>>>
Your view of what gender is, is a relatively new idea. Historically, it >>>> was used to mean the same thing as "sex." Yet in more conservative
times, sex also meant the act of sexual intercourse. In the 1970's
academia invented this new concept of gender as referring to the way an >>>> individual presents themselves in society. In the 2010's it made it's >>>> way to the general public and the left has taken advantage of this to >>>> rally it's base on several fronts. Leftists have a way of distorting >>>> truth for political purposes and this isn't surprising. The two main >>>> features of this distortion of reality and using mental illness to gain >>>> power are the destruction of the typical american family and continued >>>> attacks on religion and people of faith.
Feel free to believe your man friend is now a woman, not because he cut >>>> his dick off, but because he says so. His 23rd chromosome says different.
I hope you understand that I do not expect to convince you of anything. That rarely happens here, if ever. For me this is just a mental exercise and I hope maybe someone else might find something of value here.
Trans people are not all alike. They don't all get the same procedures for a variety of reasons. Our friend had to have her balls cut off because she didn't want all that testosterone to make her look like a man. She really didn't want a beard. She
I know a transman in Tucson who I trust more than most CIS men. He has only had top surgery. He has a beard and you wouldn't spot him in a crowd. His wife is just fine with what they have.
There are no magic tricks. They can't bolt new parts onto a trans person. The just rearrange what you have. Some of the transmen might get the same equipment an impotent man might use. Otherwise they just make the original equipment look different.
still think you were a man. When someone says they are worried about their masculinity do you think they're afraid their genitals might fall off or do you think they're worried about something going on in their head?
Despite outward appearances, much like pleasure and pain, gender is all in your head. Even though I may say I let the small head do too much thinking for me, it really doesn't think at all. For example, even if your genitals fell off, you would
even be considered to be special in some way. For example, amphibians were considered special, because they could live in two different environments.
You are wrong about history. Gender dysphoria has a long history in a variety of cultures. Here the indigenous people refer to them has "two spirit people". They have seen this for a long time. There is not stigma attached to this and they might
mean. Some of the intersex people like the way they were born. Some folks like being somewhere in between.Mental or psychiatric disorders are quite common. This does not make
I wish biology was somewhere as close to as perfect as you think it is. It isn't.
them either "normal" or untreatable. Gender dysphoria is basically a
psychological disorder, and yes is biological, since all brain activity >> is biological in nature. Schizophrenia, anxiety disorders, obsessive
compulsive disorder, bipolar affective disorder, post-traumatic stress
disorder, psychosis, and even depression and paranoia are all similarly >> classified as psychiatric disorders. Yet none of these are treated with >> the kid gloves as the people with gender dysphoria get. They are all
obviously unhealty, NOT normal, and have a root cause the doctor will
investigate and try to treat. The goal being to make the patient, and
the people around them, able to live safely and comfortably in this
world. It is now considered unethical for those treating these gender
confused people to suggest a transgender person to be cisgender. Gender >> identity conversion therapy is now illegal in some places and punishable >> with jail time, though most people have only heard of the religious
affiliated groups trying to help people un-Gay themselves. Milo
Yiannopoulos is probably the most well know case of this.
My point is this. It is not normal, but a disorder. You can believe
otherwise and live in a world where it is considered normal. We are
already there. But it is not because of true science. I truly feel for
people who experience this dysphoria, and hope treatment of ANY kind
helps them individually. Most people simply don't care how others
choose to live.
What I DO object to is two-fold. First, thrusting it into the public
sphere and forcing it down our throats while claiming trans people are
unsafe and need protection. This is a lie. They already have all the
protection they need, and I would suggest the public needs protection
from the militant part of this cult. The can do what they want, just
don't expect others to embrace it any more than religious people would
expect atheists to embrace their preaching.
Second, this "normalization" of this disorder I believe is harmful to
our children. You can't look at the rising statistics of the young
people claiming they have this disorder and not wonder what has changed >> that so many people are jumping on this bandwagon. It is being pushed
on our children and peer pressure is involved in many immature and not
fully developed brains to make permanent and life altering decisions.
This is intentional and it is criminal. That I will stand against. Let
them grow up. The adults can do whatever crazy shit they want to
themselves.
These discussions aren't totally useless for me. I learn a lot from them. You have MUCH higher regard for "normal" than me. From > my point of view "normal" is massively overrated.Placing a value on it is pointless. The truth is, what the truth is.
At least in some circles.
I'm not normal in many different ways.I don't need anyone else to be not normal like me to validate my existence. (Some people are, and > > that can be fun.) Some people don't need to be cured or at least cured from abnormal in all of the ways you
Which is perfectly fine, as I've said before. Adults can do as theyhave ever read it, clearly DO NOT understand the words in it--and too few actual Christians. You are a prime example. You clearly do not know it by heart, so I strongly suggest you look up the 11th commandment. It's supposed to be Christ's actual words
please. It is still abnormal to most of society and nature as well.
Therein lies the problem. People like you don't accept this reality.
Feel free to do so, just don't expect the rest of us to accept it.
For me the most interesting thing about this discussion was your mention of yourNo, I did not say MY religion. I said, "continued attacks on religion
and people of faith." None of my arguments on this have been
theological in nature. Pointing out that the left uses this to attack religion in general is a simple fact.
religion being under attack. It seems like a strange concept to me. I'm a pagan. I never worry about my religion. It takes care of itself. To me the biggest problem with your religion is that we have too many sanctimonious bible thumpers who,if they
I was not speaking of MY religion, as I said. I was speaking of
organized religion, any religion. And I learned long ago, usenet is
worse than a bar for religious discussions. I refuse to do it. As much
as I might find fault in someone's choice of personal religious belief,
I find no fault in the constitution and the 1st amendment which
guarantees their right to it. Feel free to do so, but I won't
participate in that game.
If your religion was even a tiny fraction as good as you think it is you would never have to worry about anyone attacking it--ever.I clearly stated that, "Leftists have a way of distorting truth for political purposes and this isn't surprising." It wasn't about crying
that they are picking on religion, it is about WHY they are doing it. Perhaps a little too nuanced for you, obviously since you did not
hesitate to attack religion after reading it.
On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 5:42:37 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:Link not read. PlannedButcherHood had nothing to say of value.
On 5/5/2023 4:37 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 8:36:03 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/4/2023 9:59 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 10:58:13 AM UTC-7, sticks
wrote:
On 5/4/2023 9:04 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 5:40:28 PM UTC-7, sticks
wrote:
On 5/3/2023 6:06 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 8:00:13 AM UTC-7,I knew you would say this. Intersex is not a gender.
sticks wrote:
On 5/2/2023 12:11 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 8:41:13 AM UTC-7,Can post a link, but a study came out last week
sticks wrote:
On 5/2/2023 10:14 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
I still expect that Budweiser willNot bigotry unless you're a science denier.
eventually come out solidly opposed to
bigotry. If nothing else, I expect far
right nutcases to force them into that
position.
To be bigotry it would need to have to have
an unreasonable characteristic in the
objection. The only unreasonable issue is
that men can become women. Which is your
position and that of the rest of your crazy
friends. Since science says they can't,
standing up for science is not unreasonable,
and many would consider it honorable. Things
like standing up for traditional families,
letting children grow up free from the
grooming of left wing perverts, and not
pretending you can change who you are once
you're born are all reasonable things to
intelligent people. Feel free to live as you
choose, but don't expect everyone will play
along just because you call us bigots. We
live in the real world and don't care.
There is no science that explains what causes
gender dysphoria. From what I have seen I
suspect that there are many different causes,
ranging from insanity to small differences in
brain chemistry. There is only one known cure
and it's highly effective. The friend I
mentioned is living a happy productive life. I
think she probably fell into the latter
category. Her hormones were a bit wonky and she
already had a very slim feminine body. He
father's hormone balance was even more wonky.
Except for his former wife, we were all
surprised to find out he was a deeply closeted
gay man.
showing a majority of these people had parents
with mental health issues. That's the category
your he/she friend falls into.
Despite our labels gender is not strictly blackNot really. There are two genders and many mental
or white. Many people fall somewhere in
between.
health disorders.
"Intersex" is just one example. I don't expect you
to understand much. You obviously think in terms of
stark black and white.
It is a condition and doctors can perform procedures
if the patient wishes to correct this and assign a
particular gender. There are two: male and/or
female. Duh. You got any more stupid shit to say?
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity/sex-gender-identity/whats-intersex#:~:text=What%20does%20intersex%20mean%3F,male%E2%80%9D%20or%20%E2%80%9Cfemale%E2%80%9D.
Placing a value on it is pointless. The truth is, what the truthMental or psychiatric disorders are quite common. This doesWhat did your friend cut his dick off for them?
Plastic surgery has never changed anyone's gender.
The doctors can "assign" a physical gender, but thatI would hope not. I don't know why a man would cut off
will not change what's going on in someone's head.
his pecker if he didn't already think he was not a man.
There have been many cases where the doctors "assigned"There certainly have been cases where intersex
a gender and turned out to be wrong.
individuals who had procedures performed on them have
gone on to wish they had the opposite procedure. So what?
They have a biological condition that is rare and one
would hope those involved did they best they could with a
difficult situation.
No surgeon can turn you into a woman. What makes you aHogwash. Of course a surgery will not turn you into a
man or a woman or something in between is what's going
on in your head. The doctors haven't figured out how to
change that.
woman if you were born a man. You will ALWAYS be a man.
You just won't have your Peter anymore. Feel free to act
however you wish, get counseling to fit into society, sue
everyone who doesn't understand things the way you think
they should, and live as if you were a woman. You'd still
be a man.
Your view of what gender is, is a relatively new idea.
Historically, it was used to mean the same thing as
"sex." Yet in more conservative times, sex also meant the
act of sexual intercourse. In the 1970's academia
invented this new concept of gender as referring to the
way an individual presents themselves in society. In the
2010's it made it's way to the general public and the
left has taken advantage of this to rally it's base on
several fronts. Leftists have a way of distorting truth
for political purposes and this isn't surprising. The two
main features of this distortion of reality and using
mental illness to gain power are the destruction of the
typical american family and continued attacks on religion
and people of faith.
Feel free to believe your man friend is now a woman, not
because he cut his dick off, but because he says so. His
23rd chromosome says different.
I hope you understand that I do not expect to convince you
of anything. That rarely happens here, if ever. For me this
is just a mental exercise and I hope maybe someone else
might find something of value here.
Trans people are not all alike. They don't all get the same
procedures for a variety of reasons. Our friend had to have
her balls cut off because she didn't want all that
testosterone to make her look like a man. She really didn't
want a beard. She had been taking drugs to suppress the
testosterone, but there are limits on how long you can do
that without causing liver damage. That will probably be
her only surgical procedure. She was thrilled when her
breasts grew to a 'C' cup. Cocks are a different story.
People can have different levels of dysphoria. I know
another transwoman, for whom, her cock was a source of
burning shame. She had the full Monty. For our friend, she
would probably prefer otherwise, but she can live with her
cock. The surgical procedures are not perfect and leave a
lot to be desired. So she's better off leaving things the
way they are. Some trans people never get any surgery.
Everyone is different.
There are no magic tricks. They can't bolt new parts onto a
trans person. The just rearrange what you have. Some of the
transmen might get the same equipment an impotent man might
use. Otherwise they just make the original equipment look
different. I know a transman in Tucson who I trust more
than most CIS men. He has only had top surgery. He has a
beard and you wouldn't spot him in a crowd. His wife is
just fine with what they have.
Despite outward appearances, much like pleasure and pain,
gender is all in your head. Even though I may say I let the
small head do too much thinking for me, it really doesn't
think at all. For example, even if your genitals fell off,
you would still think you were a man. When someone says
they are worried about their masculinity do you think
they're afraid their genitals might fall off or do you
think they're worried about something going on in their
head?
You are wrong about history. Gender dysphoria has a long
history in a variety of cultures. Here the indigenous
people refer to them has "two spirit people". They have
seen this for a long time. There is not stigma attached to
this and they might even be considered to be special in
some way. For example, amphibians were considered special,
because they could live in two different environments.
I wish biology was somewhere as close to as perfect as you
think it is. It isn't.
not make them either "normal" or untreatable. Gender
dysphoria is basically a psychological disorder, and yes is
biological, since all brain activity is biological in nature.
Schizophrenia, anxiety disorders, obsessive compulsive
disorder, bipolar affective disorder, post-traumatic stress
disorder, psychosis, and even depression and paranoia are all
similarly classified as psychiatric disorders. Yet none of
these are treated with the kid gloves as the people with
gender dysphoria get. They are all obviously unhealty, NOT
normal, and have a root cause the doctor will investigate and
try to treat. The goal being to make the patient, and the
people around them, able to live safely and comfortably in
this world. It is now considered unethical for those treating
these gender confused people to suggest a transgender person
to be cisgender. Gender identity conversion therapy is now
illegal in some places and punishable with jail time, though
most people have only heard of the religious affiliated
groups trying to help people un-Gay themselves. Milo
Yiannopoulos is probably the most well know case of this.
My point is this. It is not normal, but a disorder. You can
believe otherwise and live in a world where it is considered
normal. We are already there. But it is not because of true
science. I truly feel for people who experience this
dysphoria, and hope treatment of ANY kind helps them
individually. Most people simply don't care how others choose
to live.
What I DO object to is two-fold. First, thrusting it into the
public sphere and forcing it down our throats while claiming
trans people are unsafe and need protection. This is a lie.
They already have all the protection they need, and I would
suggest the public needs protection from the militant part of
this cult. The can do what they want, just don't expect
others to embrace it any more than religious people would
expect atheists to embrace their preaching.
Second, this "normalization" of this disorder I believe is
harmful to our children. You can't look at the rising
statistics of the young people claiming they have this
disorder and not wonder what has changed that so many people
are jumping on this bandwagon. It is being pushed on our
children and peer pressure is involved in many immature and
not fully developed brains to make permanent and life
altering decisions. This is intentional and it is criminal.
That I will stand against. Let them grow up. The adults can
do whatever crazy shit they want to themselves.
These discussions aren't totally useless for me. I learn a lot
from them. You have MUCH higher regard for "normal" than me.
From > my point of view "normal" is massively overrated.
is. At least in some circles.
I'm not normal in many different ways.I don't need anyone elseWhich is perfectly fine, as I've said before. Adults can do as
to be not normal like me to validate my existence. (Some people
are, and > > that can be fun.) Some people don't need to be
cured or at least cured from abnormal in all of the ways you
mean. Some of the intersex people like the way they were born.
Some folks like being somewhere in between.
they please. It is still abnormal to most of society and nature
as well. Therein lies the problem. People like you don't accept
this reality. Feel free to do so, just don't expect the rest of
us to accept it.
For me the most interesting thing about this discussion wasNo, I did not say MY religion. I said, "continued attacks on
your mention of your
religion and people of faith." None of my arguments on this have
been theological in nature. Pointing out that the left uses this
to attack religion in general is a simple fact.
religion being under attack. It seems like a strange concept toI was not speaking of MY religion, as I said. I was speaking of
me. I'm a pagan. I never worry about my religion. It takes care
of itself. To me the biggest problem with your religion is that
we have too many sanctimonious bible thumpers who,if they have
ever read it, clearly DO NOT understand the words in it--and
too few actual Christians. You are a prime example. You clearly
do not know it by heart, so I strongly suggest you look up the
11th commandment. It's supposed to be Christ's actual words and
he clearly defines it.
organized religion, any religion. And I learned long ago, usenet
is worse than a bar for religious discussions. I refuse to do it.
As much as I might find fault in someone's choice of personal
religious belief, I find no fault in the constitution and the 1st
amendment which guarantees their right to it. Feel free to do so,
but I won't participate in that game.
If your religion was even a tiny fraction as good as you thinkI clearly stated that, "Leftists have a way of distorting truth
it is you would never have to worry about anyone attacking
it--ever.
for political purposes and this isn't surprising." It wasn't
about crying that they are picking on religion, it is about WHY
they are doing it. Perhaps a little too nuanced for you,
obviously since you did not hesitate to attack religion after
reading it.
So, I just thought of a serious question I can throw into all of
this insanity. There are roughly 5,000 religions that exist on this
planet. How many of them do you think are under attack? All of
them? Only the Judeo-Christian religions? Only the hundreds of
different flavors of Christianity? Only some of the Christian
religions? How about the Mormons? Strictly speaking they are not
Christians. Many Muslims feel that their religion is under attack.
Do you agree? What about the atheists? Is their religion under
attack?
On 5/8/2023 11:21 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:whole world should make sure that never happens to them again. You have decided that you are a victim of changing times. About the only one who can do anything about that is you. Like it or not, the whole world keeps on changing.
The point is that the part of society who is against traditional values, >> family, religion, etc. is the left. It is only rational to try andYadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah.
understand and be aware of why they do it. If you don't, you can end up >> losing your rights and freedoms. Especially the right to practice
worship as you choose. It is the main reason for this country, our
constitution, and why America has prospered for so long. The freedom of >> religion. It is being eroded by Marxist ideology. To argue otherwise
is only possible if your head is in the sand, or you are dishonest.
You may be new here, but your ideology isn't. We used to have a steady parade of p[eople who were having things "shoved down their throat". Do you know what that cliche means? It means some special snowflake saw something they didn't like. And the
Saw this today in case you still don't believe it isn't happening.
<https://harbingersdaily.com/a-legacy-of-censorship-how-communist-concepts-have-led-to-suppression-of-christian-views/>
On Wednesday, May 10, 2023 at 8:20:48 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:whole world should make sure that never happens to them again. You have decided that you are a victim of changing times. About the only one who can do anything about that is you. Like it or not, the whole world keeps on changing.
On 5/8/2023 11:21 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
The point is that the part of society who is against traditional values, >>>> family, religion, etc. is the left. It is only rational to try andYadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah.
understand and be aware of why they do it. If you don't, you can end up >>>> losing your rights and freedoms. Especially the right to practice
worship as you choose. It is the main reason for this country, our
constitution, and why America has prospered for so long. The freedom of >>>> religion. It is being eroded by Marxist ideology. To argue otherwise
is only possible if your head is in the sand, or you are dishonest.
You may be new here, but your ideology isn't. We used to have a steady parade of p[eople who were having things "shoved down their throat". Do you know what that cliche means? It means some special snowflake saw something they didn't like. And the
die. If they do that probably tells you something about how "true" they were.Saw this today in case you still don't believe it isn't happening.
<https://harbingersdaily.com/a-legacy-of-censorship-how-communist-concepts-have-led-to-suppression-of-christian-views/>
I am not ignorant of history or what is happening in the world today. From my perspective the Christians have gone out of their way to earn whatever animosity they are experiencing. I don't expect any of their various versions of "THE TRUTH" to
Thank you for clarifying. I knew all that talk about "religion" being under attack was so much bullshit. You are only interested in one version of one religion and that religion's moral code. You are just fine with discarding and ignoringreligious traditions that don't agree with YOUR moral code.
On 5/10/2023 11:03 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:whole world should make sure that never happens to them again. You have decided that you are a victim of changing times. About the only one who can do anything about that is you. Like it or not, the whole world keeps on changing.
On Wednesday, May 10, 2023 at 8:20:48 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/8/2023 11:21 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
The point is that the part of society who is against traditional values,Yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah.
family, religion, etc. is the left. It is only rational to try and
understand and be aware of why they do it. If you don't, you can end up >>>> losing your rights and freedoms. Especially the right to practice
worship as you choose. It is the main reason for this country, our
constitution, and why America has prospered for so long. The freedom of >>>> religion. It is being eroded by Marxist ideology. To argue otherwise >>>> is only possible if your head is in the sand, or you are dishonest.
You may be new here, but your ideology isn't. We used to have a steady parade of p[eople who were having things "shoved down their throat". Do you know what that cliche means? It means some special snowflake saw something they didn't like. And the
If they do that probably tells you something about how "true" they were.Saw this today in case you still don't believe it isn't happening.
<https://harbingersdaily.com/a-legacy-of-censorship-how-communist-concepts-have-led-to-suppression-of-christian-views/>
I am not ignorant of history or what is happening in the world today. From my perspective the Christians have gone out of their way to earn whatever animosity they are experiencing. I don't expect any of their various versions of "THE TRUTH" to die.
Other than showing your disdain for Christianity, that was a relatively meaningless paragraph. Hope you feel better now.traditions that don't agree with YOUR moral code.
Thank you for clarifying. I knew all that talk about "religion" being under attack was so much bullshit. You are only interested in one version of one religion and that religion's moral code. You are just fine with discarding and ignoring religious
I've found an article on a news site I visit and posted it as a way of showing I am not alone in noticing these things and you come up with
this? I've already mentioned the muslims in communist China,
Representative Pressley had to be shut down by the Speaker from hosting
an anti-Israel "rally" yesterday, and it goes on and on. You need an
example for every type of faith? As far as my being tolerant of
different faiths, go back and read my thoughts on the constitution guaranteeing ALL the right to theirs. The only thing I clarified is
your hatred of Christians.
On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 7:30:00 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
On 5/10/2023 11:03 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Wednesday, May 10, 2023 at 8:20:48 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:Other than showing your disdain for Christianity, that was a relatively
On 5/8/2023 11:21 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
Saw this today in case you still don't believe it isn't happening.The point is that the part of society who is against traditional values, >>>>>> family, religion, etc. is the left. It is only rational to try and >>>>>> understand and be aware of why they do it. If you don't, you can end up >>>>>> losing your rights and freedoms. Especially the right to practice
worship as you choose. It is the main reason for this country, our >>>>>> constitution, and why America has prospered for so long. The freedom of >>>>>> religion. It is being eroded by Marxist ideology. To argue otherwise >>>>>> is only possible if your head is in the sand, or you are dishonest. >>>>> Yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah.
You may be new here, but your ideology isn't. We used to have a
steady parade of p[eople who were having things "shoved down their
throat". Do you know what that cliche means? It means some special
snowflake saw something they didn't like. And the whole world should >>>>> make sure that never happens to them again. You have decided that you >>>>> are a victim of changing times. About the only one who can do
anything about that is you. Like it or not, the whole world keeps on changing.
<https://harbingersdaily.com/a-legacy-of-censorship-how-communist-concepts-have-led-to-suppression-of-christian-views/>
I am not ignorant of history or what is happening in the world today.
From my perspective the Christians have gone out of their way to earn
whatever animosity they are experiencing. I don't expect any of their
various versions of "THE TRUTH" to die. If they do that probably tells
you something about how "true" they were.
meaningless paragraph. Hope you feel better now.
Thank you for clarifying. I knew all that talk about "religion" beingI've found an article on a news site I visit and posted it as a way of
under attack was so much bullshit. You are only interested in one
version of one religion and that religion's moral code. You are just
fine with discarding and ignoring religious traditions that don't agree
with YOUR moral code.
showing I am not alone in noticing these things and you come up with
this? I've already mentioned the muslims in communist China,
Representative Pressley had to be shut down by the Speaker from hosting
an anti-Israel "rally" yesterday, and it goes on and on. You need an
example for every type of faith? As far as my being tolerant of
different faiths, go back and read my thoughts on the constitution
guaranteeing ALL the right to theirs. The only thing I clarified is
your hatred of Christians.
I don't hate all Christians. I reserve that for the hateful
hypocrites who make up the bulk of the religion.
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