Our new governor says she isn't buying tents for homeless people. She wants them to sleep in Pods. Portland's mayor, who will not be camping with the homeless, thinks that tents are just fine.

Naturally, anytime you get near the government the numbers go crazy. You can buy a 100 square foot wood shed, with doors and windows and ready to assemble for less than $2,000. This article suggests $20,000 per sleeping pod is a reasonable number.
lol

"Gov. Kotek wants pods at Portland's sanctioned homeless camping sites instead of tents"

https://katu.com/news/local/governor-tina-kotek-wants-pods-at-portlands-sanctioned-homeless-camping-sites-instead-of-tents

TB

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Technobarbarian wrote:

Our new governor says she isn't buying tents for homeless people.
She wants them to sleep in Pods. Portland's mayor, who will not be
camping with the homeless, thinks that tents are just fine.

Naturally, anytime you get near the government the numbers go
crazy. You can buy a 100 square foot wood shed, with doors and
windows and ready to assemble for less than $2,000. This article
suggests $20,000 per sleeping pod is a reasonable number. lol

"Gov. Kotek wants pods at Portland's sanctioned homeless camping
sites instead of tents"

https://katu.com/news/local/governor-tina-kotek-wants-pods-at-portlands-sanctioned-homeless-camping-sites-instead-of-tents

Whatever happened to freedom of choice of self-identification in
Wokeland? At the end of the day going forward, an unhomed person
should be able to literally self-identify as a pod-person or a
tent-person, and then be given the applicable shelter to protect them
from the uncaring and unforgiving elements.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 10:28:13 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:

Technobarbarian wrote:

Our new governor says she isn't buying tents for homeless people.
She wants them to sleep in Pods. Portland's mayor, who will not be
camping with the homeless, thinks that tents are just fine.

Naturally, anytime you get near the government the numbers go
crazy. You can buy a 100 square foot wood shed, with doors and
windows and ready to assemble for less than $2,000. This article
suggests $20,000 per sleeping pod is a reasonable number. lol

"Gov. Kotek wants pods at Portland's sanctioned homeless camping
sites instead of tents"

https://katu.com/news/local/governor-tina-kotek-wants-pods-at-portlands-sanctioned-homeless-camping-sites-instead-of-tents

Whatever happened to freedom of choice of self-identification in
Wokeland? At the end of the day going forward, an unhomed person
should be able to literally self-identify as a pod-person or a
tent-person, and then be given the applicable shelter to protect them
from the uncaring and unforgiving elements.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

"Wokeland"? lol You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. I would call this extremely ordinary American-land. Nobody much gives a damn what people sleep in, as long as they aren't causing problems. People can self-identify as whatever
they want, as long, as they're paying for it. When other people are paying for it the homeless should be damn glad for what they get, because most folks really don't give a damn about them. Oregonians are only concerned with the problems they cause. If
our sneaker bajillionaire hadn't tried to buy himself a governor we would have wound up with a Republican governor who only wanted to give homeless people more of the same thing they had always been given. No tents or pods. Just beds in a dormitory, soup
lines and lots of cops breathing down their neck. If things don't go well we could easily end up with a Republican governor next time around.

We really aren't too far from the people who stuffed most of the remaining Indians onto reservations. When marriage equality was a big issue this state voted against it. The Black exclusion law wasn't repealed until 1926. 30% of the people voted
to keep it, even though it no longer had any legal force. It isn't an accident that Black people only make up 2.3% of the population here. At the height of the BLM protests less than 50,000 people were out protesting in a metropolitan area with around 2
million people living here.

When they started the reservation system for the Indians here most folks thought it was temporary. No one expected it to last as long as it has. Portland's mayor thinks his little tent cities are a temporary solution. Tents or pods I expect that
they will be here for a long time.

TB

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Technobarbarian wrote:

On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 10:28:13 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:

Technobarbarian wrote:

Our new governor says she isn't buying tents for homeless
people. She wants them to sleep in Pods. Portland's mayor, who
will not be camping with the homeless, thinks that tents are
just fine.

Naturally, anytime you get near the government the numbers go
crazy. You can buy a 100 square foot wood shed, with doors and
windows and ready to assemble for less than $2,000. This
article suggests $20,000 per sleeping pod is a reasonable
number. lol

"Gov. Kotek wants pods at Portland's sanctioned homeless
camping sites instead of tents"

https://katu.com/news/local/governor-tina-kotek-wants-pods-at-portlands-sanctioned-homeless-camping-sites-instead-of-tents

Whatever happened to freedom of choice of self-identification in

Wokeland? At the end of the day going forward, an unhomed person
should be able to literally self-identify as a pod-person or a
tent-person, and then be given the applicable shelter to protect
them from the uncaring and unforgiving elements.

-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

"Wokeland"? lol You clearly have no idea what you're talking
about. I would call this extremely ordinary American-land. Nobody
much gives a damn what people sleep in, as long as they aren't
causing problems. People can self-identify as whatever they want,
as long, as they're paying for it. When other people are paying
for it the homeless should be damn glad for what they get, because
most folks really don't give a damn about them. Oregonians are only
concerned with the problems they cause. If our sneaker
bajillionaire hadn't tried to buy himself a governor we would have
wound up with a Republican governor who only wanted to give
homeless people more of the same thing they had always been given.
No tents or pods. Just beds in a dormitory, soup lines and lots of
cops breathing down their neck. If things don't go well we could
easily end up with a Republican governor next time around.

We really aren't too far from the people who stuffed most of the
remaining Indians onto reservations. When marriage equality was a
big issue this state voted against it. The Black exclusion law
wasn't repealed until 1926. 30% of the people voted to keep it,
even though it no longer had any legal force. It isn't an accident
that Black people only make up 2.3% of the population here. At the
height of the BLM protests less than 50,000 people were out
protesting in a metropolitan area with around 2 million people
living here.

When they started the reservation system for the Indians here most
folks thought it was temporary. No one expected it to last as long
as it has. Portland's mayor thinks his little tent cities are a
temporary solution. Tents or pods I expect that they will be here
for a long time.

Right. Y'all vote for and are governed by conservatives out there. My bad.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 1:39:37 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:

Technobarbarian wrote:

On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 10:28:13 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:

Technobarbarian wrote:

Our new governor says she isn't buying tents for homeless
people. She wants them to sleep in Pods. Portland's mayor, who
will not be camping with the homeless, thinks that tents are
just fine.

Naturally, anytime you get near the government the numbers go
crazy. You can buy a 100 square foot wood shed, with doors and
windows and ready to assemble for less than $2,000. This
article suggests $20,000 per sleeping pod is a reasonable
number. lol

"Gov. Kotek wants pods at Portland's sanctioned homeless
camping sites instead of tents"

https://katu.com/news/local/governor-tina-kotek-wants-pods-at-portlands-sanctioned-homeless-camping-sites-instead-of-tents

Whatever happened to freedom of choice of self-identification in

Wokeland? At the end of the day going forward, an unhomed person
should be able to literally self-identify as a pod-person or a
tent-person, and then be given the applicable shelter to protect
them from the uncaring and unforgiving elements.

-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

"Wokeland"? lol You clearly have no idea what you're talking
about. I would call this extremely ordinary American-land. Nobody
much gives a damn what people sleep in, as long as they aren't
causing problems. People can self-identify as whatever they want,
as long, as they're paying for it. When other people are paying
for it the homeless should be damn glad for what they get, because
most folks really don't give a damn about them. Oregonians are only concerned with the problems they cause. If our sneaker
bajillionaire hadn't tried to buy himself a governor we would have
wound up with a Republican governor who only wanted to give
homeless people more of the same thing they had always been given.
No tents or pods. Just beds in a dormitory, soup lines and lots of
cops breathing down their neck. If things don't go well we could
easily end up with a Republican governor next time around.

We really aren't too far from the people who stuffed most of the
remaining Indians onto reservations. When marriage equality was a
big issue this state voted against it. The Black exclusion law
wasn't repealed until 1926. 30% of the people voted to keep it,
even though it no longer had any legal force. It isn't an accident
that Black people only make up 2.3% of the population here. At the
height of the BLM protests less than 50,000 people were out
protesting in a metropolitan area with around 2 million people
living here.

When they started the reservation system for the Indians here most
folks thought it was temporary. No one expected it to last as long
as it has. Portland's mayor thinks his little tent cities are a
temporary solution. Tents or pods I expect that they will be here
for a long time.

Right. Y'all vote for and are governed by conservatives out there. My bad.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

You're getting tangled up in your own vocabulary. The word in question was woke. If woke is just another word for liberal where you live it would be easier to understand you if you just use liberal. I understand that conservatives don't agree on a
definition and some of them can't define it at all, BUT words have meaning. I was talking about the actual, generally understand definition of the word.

"Among conservative lawmakers, there is no consensus on what it means to be woke.

Some have used it to attack trans and gay rights, critical race theory – legal theory that examines systemic racism as a part of American institutions – and the teachings of the New York Times' 1619 project in public schools.

"If you ask people what woke is, I think what they mean is they want to stand against people who are engaging in some type of advocacy for marginalized people," said Andra Gillespie, political scientist at Emory University.

"It's kind of this lumping together of anybody whose views could be construed as being progressive on issues related to identity and civil rights." "

IOW, I'm living in a state where the vast majority of "liberals" are not woke. I'm as serious as a heart attack. If Phil Knight had not tried to buy a governor by running a third candidate we would have a Republican governor right now and
government sponsored campgrounds for the homeless would be a distant fantasy. Portland kept chasing homeless people around town long after it was obvious to everyone that this wasn't really doing anything useful. The majority of Oregonians voted against
our new governor. Even if the pod villages work out there is a good chance she will be voted out next time around.

Portland has had a homeless problem forever. Nobody paid much attention to the problem until it became a problem for them personally. It's not like the average Oregonian was magically transformed into caring individuals. They care because it has
become a problem for them. When the problem becomes this big and noticeable it's hard on business and hard on property values. That's why we put our Indians in reservations in the first place. If we could put homeless people on reservations I'm sure that
law would pass by a wide margin.

TB

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On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 7:54:53 AM UTC-7, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:

On 2023-03-23 15:33:36 +0000, Technobarbarian said:

Our new governor says she isn't buying tents for homeless people.
She wants them to sleep in Pods. Portland's mayor, who will not be
camping with the homeless, thinks that tents are just fine.

Naturally, anytime you get near the government the numbers go
crazy. You can buy a 100 square foot wood shed, with doors and windows
and ready to assemble for less than $2,000. This article suggests
$20,000 per sleeping pod is a reasonable number. lol

"Gov. Kotek wants pods at Portland's sanctioned homeless camping sites instead of tents"

https://katu.com/news/local/governor-tina-kotek-wants-pods-at-portlands-sanctioned-homeless-camping-sites-instead-of-tents

TB

One of the many issues with the homeless issue is "People that make a Career" out of handling the problem.
Last night I watched an articla for (? I don't recall the town) the
local city folk in charge of the problem were going to build a "tiny
homes" village, opening date by the fall of 2028.
So, their solution was to have something done in FIVE years.

Yep, it's the same thing with our drug reform. The people complaining the loudest are the people who have made a career out of not fixing the problem.

One of the best guesses I've seen for our housing problem here is that it will take at least a decade before we have sufficient affordable housing to meet the demand. I think that's very optimistic. The NYMBYs are getting restless. My new
congressional district sent a Republican to DC. I seriously expect that we'll get a Republican governor next time around in our (lol) Liberal Paradise. Our sneaker tycoon made a serious mistake when he ran Betsy. He thought he was running a second
Democrat to split the Democrats' vote. She had been a Democrat through her entire political career, so it sort of made sense. Betsy was the most retrumplican candidate in the race. He combative style probably earned her a lot of maga-rat votes. She was
running against a traditional Republican who was trying hard to pretend that #45 didn't exist. Without Betsy in the race and with 4 years of the Democrats mismanaging the homeless problem, she should do much better next time around.

TB

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On 3/23/2023 10:33 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:

Our new governor says she isn't buying tents for homeless people. She wants them to sleep in Pods. Portland's mayor, who will not be camping with the homeless, thinks that tents are just fine.

Naturally, anytime you get near the government the numbers go crazy. You can buy a 100 square foot wood shed, with doors and windows and ready to assemble for less than $2,000. This article suggests $20,000 per sleeping pod is a reasonable number.

lol

"Gov. Kotek wants pods at Portland's sanctioned homeless camping sites instead of tents"

https://katu.com/news/local/governor-tina-kotek-wants-pods-at-portlands-sanctioned-homeless-camping-sites-instead-of-tents

TB

The PNW genius politicians should just house them in shuttered
Walmarts and Cracker Barrels that their policies made available for
occupancy.
--
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem," - Ronald Reagan

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On 26-Mar-23 14:24, George.Anthony wrote:

On 3/23/2023 10:33 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:

     Our new governor says she isn't buying tents for homeless people. >> She wants them to sleep in Pods. Portland's mayor, who will not be
camping with the homeless, thinks that tents are just fine.

      Naturally, anytime you get near the government the numbers go
crazy. You can buy a 100 square foot wood shed, with doors and windows
and ready to assemble for less than $2,000. This article suggests
$20,000 per sleeping pod is a reasonable number. lol

"Gov. Kotek wants pods at Portland's sanctioned homeless camping sites
instead of tents"

https://katu.com/news/local/governor-tina-kotek-wants-pods-at-portlands-sanctioned-homeless-camping-sites-instead-of-tents

TB

 The PNW genius politicians should just house them in shuttered
Walmarts and Cracker Barrels that their policies made available for occupancy.

And the lunacy just goes on and on, and ever on. So sad.
Dusty
--
"Holding a grudge doesn't make you strong; it makes you bitter.
Forgiving doesn't make you weak; it sets you free."~~Dave Willis "The
Seven Laws of Love"

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On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 2:24:05 PM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote:

On 3/23/2023 10:33 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:

Our new governor says she isn't buying tents for homeless people. She wants them to sleep in Pods. Portland's mayor, who will not be camping with the homeless, thinks that tents are just fine.

Naturally, anytime you get near the government the numbers go crazy. You can buy a 100 square foot wood shed, with doors and windows and ready to assemble for less than $2,000. This article suggests $20,000 per sleeping pod is a reasonable number.

lol

"Gov. Kotek wants pods at Portland's sanctioned homeless camping sites instead of tents"

https://katu.com/news/local/governor-tina-kotek-wants-pods-at-portlands-sanctioned-homeless-camping-sites-instead-of-tents

TB

The PNW genius politicians should just house them in shuttered
Walmarts and Cracker Barrels that their policies made available for occupancy.
--
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem," - Ronald Reagan

Businesses come and go all the time. You'll never believe it, but most of the time politics has nothing to do with it. Cracker Barrel closed their stores here because they weren't competitive in this market. I drive by their Beaverton location all
the time--on my way to other dining establishments. There are thousands of restaurants here that are doing just fine--and sell better food. I don't think many people here were interested in dining in a phony nostalgic decor loosely inspired by a time and
place they never experienced.

TB

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On 3/27/2023 9:32 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:

On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 2:24:05 PM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote:

On 3/23/2023 10:33 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:

Our new governor says she isn't buying tents for homeless people. She wants them to sleep in Pods. Portland's mayor, who will not be camping with the homeless, thinks that tents are just fine.

Naturally, anytime you get near the government the numbers go crazy. You can buy a 100 square foot wood shed, with doors and windows and ready to assemble for less than $2,000. This article suggests $20,000 per sleeping pod is a reasonable number. lol

"Gov. Kotek wants pods at Portland's sanctioned homeless camping sites instead of tents"

https://katu.com/news/local/governor-tina-kotek-wants-pods-at-portlands-sanctioned-homeless-camping-sites-instead-of-tents

TB

The PNW genius politicians should just house them in shuttered
Walmarts and Cracker Barrels that their policies made available for
occupancy.
--
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem.
Government is the problem," - Ronald Reagan

Businesses come and go all the time. You'll never believe it,

but most of the time politics has nothing to do with it.

However, in this case politics has almost everything to do with it and
that includes the asinine pandemic restrictions.

Cracker Barrel closed their stores here because they weren't competitive
in this market. I drive by their Beaverton location all the time--on my
way to other dining establishments.

More of your holier than thou pomposity. Too good a Cracker to eat at
Cracker Barrel?

There are thousands of restaurants here that are doing just fine--and
sell better food. I don't think many people here were interested in
dining in a phony nostalgic decor loosely inspired by a time and place
they never experienced.

TB

--
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On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 7:07:42 AM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote:

On 3/27/2023 9:32 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:

On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 2:24:05 PM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote:

On 3/23/2023 10:33 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:

Our new governor says she isn't buying tents for homeless people. She wants them to sleep in Pods. Portland's mayor, who will not be camping with the homeless, thinks that tents are just fine.

Naturally, anytime you get near the government the numbers go crazy. You can buy a 100 square foot wood shed, with doors and windows and ready to assemble for less than $2,000. This article suggests $20,000 per sleeping pod is a reasonable number.

lol

"Gov. Kotek wants pods at Portland's sanctioned homeless camping sites instead of tents"

https://katu.com/news/local/governor-tina-kotek-wants-pods-at-portlands-sanctioned-homeless-camping-sites-instead-of-tents

TB

The PNW genius politicians should just house them in shuttered
Walmarts and Cracker Barrels that their policies made available for
occupancy.
--
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. >> Government is the problem," - Ronald Reagan

Businesses come and go all the time. You'll never believe it,

but most of the time politics has nothing to do with it.
However, in this case politics has almost everything to do with it and
that includes the asinine pandemic restrictions.
Cracker Barrel closed their stores here because they weren't competitive
in this market. I drive by their Beaverton location all the time--on my
way to other dining establishments.
More of your holier than thou pomposity. Too good a Cracker to eat at Cracker Barrel?
There are thousands of restaurants here that are doing just fine--and
sell better food. I don't think many people here were interested in
dining in a phony nostalgic decor loosely inspired by a time and place
they never experienced.

TB

--
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem," - Ronald Reagan

Like many Oregonians I'm too health conscious to eat the greasy fare at Cracker Barrel. Their restaurant in Medford Oregon is not being closed, despite our pandemic restrictions. Many thousands of restaurants survived our pandemic restrictions.
Bend Oregon is a boom town that tends toward younger, more mobile people. Cracker Barrel had to leave town because they were not competitive there. Their business is based on appealing to older people. That isn't a winning formula here.

TB

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