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  • OT? - Common Sense Solution

    From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 2 12:11:48 2023
    If you're not a liberal politician. Leave it to a republican to use the
    KISS approach to a working solution. There's no reason this can't work
    in large cities, as well. Of course our "blindly supportive of liberal policies" loons here will disagree.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/california-city-nearly-eliminates-homeless-population-zero-tolerance-policy-encampments
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    "In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem," - Ronald Reagan

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Thu Mar 2 13:09:30 2023
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 10:11:52 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony wrote:
    If you're not a liberal politician. Leave it to a republican to use the
    KISS approach to a working solution. There's no reason this can't work
    in large cities, as well. Of course our "blindly supportive of liberal policies" loons here will disagree.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/california-city-nearly-eliminates-homeless-population-zero-tolerance-policy-encampments
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    "In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem," - Ronald Reagan

    At one time I lived just outside of Coronado, on the Navy Seal base. It's a wealthy small city. If it wasn't for the thin strip of sand that connects them to the mainland it would be an island. Back when I lived there in the late 60's and early 70'
    s they had 17 radar equipped patrol cars that spent a lot of time on that one highway. The bridge across the bay wasn't built until the late 60s. That made the peninsula more accessible, but it didn't prices any cheaper.

    Nobody is tolerating homeless people because they like the problem. It's being tolerated because the courts say we can't make it a crime to be homeless, unless we can provide realistic alternatives. Coronado is small enough and wealthy enough that
    they can do that. Portland is hoping to get to that point by building big campgrounds.

    TB

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Thu Mar 2 17:16:15 2023
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 10:11:52 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony
    wrote:
    If you're not a liberal politician. Leave it to a republican to
    use the KISS approach to a working solution. There's no reason
    this can't work in large cities, as well. Of course our "blindly
    supportive of liberal policies" loons here will disagree.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/california-city-nearly-eliminates-homeless-population-zero-tolerance-policy-encampments


    --
    "In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our
    problem. Government is the problem," - Ronald Reagan

    At one time I lived just outside of Coronado, on the Navy Seal
    base. It's a wealthy small city. If it wasn't for the thin strip of
    sand that connects them to the mainland it would be an island. Back
    when I lived there in the late 60's and early 70's they had 17
    radar equipped patrol cars that spent a lot of time on that one
    highway. The bridge across the bay wasn't built until the late 60s.
    That made the peninsula more accessible, but it didn't prices any
    cheaper.

    I don't know how tough they were on enforcing speed limits, but AF
    bases were. I once got a ticket for 27 in a 25. Since the Texas
    highway patrol had also previously given me a ticket for 63 in a 55, I couldn't drive on base for 30 days, and had to go to a night driving
    safety course on base. Think about that Catch 22 for a transitory moment.

    Nobody is tolerating homeless people
  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Mar 2 16:05:02 2023
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:16:24 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 10:11:52 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony wrote:
    If you're not a liberal politician. Leave it to a republican to
    use the KISS approach to a working solution. There's no reason
    this can't work in large cities, as well. Of course our "blindly
    supportive of liberal policies" loons here will disagree.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/california-city-nearly-eliminates-homeless-population-zero-tolerance-policy-encampments


    --
    "In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our
    problem. Government is the problem," - Ronald Reagan

    At one time I lived just outside of Coronado, on the Navy Seal
    base. It's a wealthy small city. If it wasn't for the thin strip of
    sand that connects them to the mainland it would be an island. Back
    when I lived there in the late 60's and early 70's they had 17
    radar equipped patrol cars that spent a lot of time on that one
    highway. The bridge across the bay wasn't built until the late 60s.
    That made the peninsula more accessible, but it didn't prices any
    cheaper.
    I don't know how tough they were on enforcing speed limits, but AF
    bases were. I once got a ticket for 27 in a 25. Since the Texas
    highway patrol had also previously given me a ticket for 63 in a 55, I couldn't drive on base for 30 days, and had to go to a night driving
    safety course on base. Think about that Catch 22 for a transitory moment.
    Nobody is tolerating homeless people because they like the problem.
    It's being tolerated because the courts say we can't make it a
    crime to be homeless, unless we can provide realistic alternatives. Coronado is small enough and wealthy enough that they can do that. Portland is hoping to get to that point by building big
    campgrounds.
    I allege that it's a Natural Law that if you move a tent slum from one
    place to another place, you'll end up with a tent slum in another
    place. Then you can only hope that another place is not within the offended-radius of a NIMBY dumbass.

    Note: I got the
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Yep, I checked. There do not appear to be any homeless shelters or vagrants in Coronado. A big reason for all the cops on the Strand is that they're very close to the border. On that side of the city they're probably getting extra attention from
    the border patrol too. There do appear to be a cluster of shelters about 2.5 miles away. Most likely on the other side of the bridge. If they have to I'll bet they help people find their way there. If they needed one it would probably be expensive to
    have one there. But, everyone has to be somewhere.

    And their blowhole mayor is simply blowing hot air when he says they only give people one option. No matter how much they may need it you can't force anyone into any sort of treatment. A mental health professional explained this to me many years
    ago. Crazy people have constitutional rights.

    TB

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Thu Mar 2 18:23:12 2023
    On 3/2/2023 6:05 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:16:24 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 10:11:52 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony
    wrote:
    If you're not a liberal politician. Leave it to a republican to
    use the KISS approach to a working solution. There's no reason
    this can't work in large cities, as well. Of course our "blindly
    supportive of liberal policies" loons here will disagree.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/california-city-nearly-eliminates-homeless-population-zero-tolerance-policy-encampments


    --
    "In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our
    problem. Government is the problem," - Ronald Reagan

    At one time I lived just outside of Coronado, on the Navy Seal
    base. It's a wealthy small city. If it wasn't for the thin strip of
    sand that connects them to the mainland it would be an island. Back
    when I lived there in the late 60's and early 70's they had 17
    radar equipped patrol cars that spent a lot of time on that one
    highway. The bridge across the bay wasn't built until the late 60s.
    That made the peninsula more accessible, but it didn't prices any
    cheaper.
    I don't know how tough they were on enforcing speed limits, but AF
    bases were. I once got a ticket for 27 in a 25. Since the Texas
    highway patrol had also previously given me a ticket for 63 in a 55, I
    couldn't drive on base for 30 days, and had to go to a night driving
    safety course on base. Think about that Catch 22 for a transitory moment. >>> Nobody is tolerating homeless people because they like the problem.
    It's being tolerated because the courts say we can't make it a
    crime to be homeless, unless we can provide realistic alternatives.
    Coronado is small enough and wealthy enough that they can do that.
    Portland is hoping to get to that point by building big
    campgrounds.
    I allege that it's a Natural Law that if you move a tent slum from one
    place to another place, you'll end up with a tent slum in another
    place. Then you can only hope that another place is not within the
    offended-radius of a NIMBY dumbass.

    Note: I got the
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Yep, I checked. There do not appear to be any homeless shelters or vagrants in Coronado. A big reason for all the cops on the Strand is that they're very close to the border. On that side of the city they're probably getting extra attention from
    the border patrol too. There do appear to be a cluster of shelters about 2.5 miles away. Most likely on the other side of the bridge. If they have to I'll bet they help people find their way there. If they needed one it would probably be expensive to
    have one there. But, everyone has to be somewhere.

    And their blowhole mayor is simply blowing hot air when he says they only give people one option. No matter how much they may need it you can't force anyone into any sort of treatment. A mental health professional explained this to me many
    years ago. Crazy people have constitutional rights.

    TB

    I would have expected no less from you. They have more than one option.
    They can get help or move on. They way I count that is at least two. And
    the Constitution does not provide for shitting in the street and
    creating a public nuisance.
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    "In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem," - Ronald Reagan

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Thu Mar 2 18:18:46 2023
    On 3/2/2023 3:09 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 10:11:52 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony wrote:
    If you're not a liberal politician. Leave it to a republican to use the
    KISS approach to a working solution. There's no reason this can't work
    in large cities, as well. Of course our "blindly supportive of liberal
    policies" loons here will disagree.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/california-city-nearly-eliminates-homeless-population-zero-tolerance-policy-encampments
    --
    "In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem.
    Government is the problem," - Ronald Reagan

    At one time I lived just outside of Coronado, on the Navy Seal base. It's a wealthy small city. If it wasn't for the thin strip of sand that connects them to the mainland it would be an island. Back when I lived there in the late 60's and early
    70's they had 17 radar equipped patrol cars that spent a lot of time on that one highway. The bridge across the bay wasn't built until the late 60s. That made the peninsula more accessible, but it didn't prices any cheaper.

    Nobody is tolerating homeless people because they like the problem. It's being tolerated because the courts say we can't make it a crime to be homeless, unless we can provide realistic alternatives. Coronado is small enough and wealthy enough
    that they can do that. Portland is hoping to get to that point by building big campgrounds.

    TB

    He didn't make it a crime to be homeless.
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    "In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem," - Ronald Reagan

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