• Re: OT? - Is it Mork or Alf?

    From bfh@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Mon Feb 13 16:40:11 2023
    George.Anthony wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/its-not-aliens-white-house-shoots-down-popular-theory-objects-spotted-u-s

    Hey. Who you gonna listen to - Lackey Kirby or the commander of NORAD?

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 13 15:20:25 2023
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/its-not-aliens-white-house-shoots-down-popular-theory-objects-spotted-u-s
    --
    "I just saved a bunch of money on my insurance by switching to reverse
    and leaving the scene."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to bfh on Tue Feb 14 13:58:57 2023
    bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/its-not-aliens-white-house-shoots-down-popular-theory-objects-spotted-u-s

    Hey. Who you gonna listen to - Lackey Kirby or the commander of NORAD?

    -----------------------------------------------
    White House says a leading explanation for the 3 downed unidentified
    objects is that they were commercial or benign ---------------------------------------------- https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/white-house-says-leading-explanation-3-downed-unidentified-objects-com-rcna70588

    I knew it. I just bygod knew it. They were capitalist, friendly
    aliens, and we summarily murdered them while they were doing marketing research. We're in deep doodoo now, because - if for no other reason -
    they can do antigravity and we can't.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From filmbydon@gmail.com@21:1/5 to bfh on Tue Feb 14 14:46:38 2023
    On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:59:01 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/its-not-aliens-white-house-shoots-down-popular-theory-objects-spotted-u-s

    Hey. Who you gonna listen to - Lackey Kirby or the commander of NORAD?

    -----------------------------------------------
    White House says a leading explanation for the 3 downed unidentified
    objects is that they were commercial or benign ---------------------------------------------- https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/white-house-says-leading-explanation-3-downed-unidentified-objects-com-rcna70588

    I knew it. I just bygod knew it. They were capitalist, friendly
    aliens, and we summarily murdered them while they were doing marketing research. We're in deep doodoo now, because - if for no other reason -
    they can do antigravity and we can't.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Sounds like the beginning of a low budget Si-Fi movie, from back in the 1950s? Space aliens come in peace, then we start shooting them to rags, soon as they appear... If it is any of the ET tribe, let's hope they're not pissed off enough to break
    out their "death ray", or some machine, that can "booger" every electric device in the country!

    Gort the Robot Jr.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to film...@gmail.com on Tue Feb 14 18:51:31 2023
    On 2/14/2023 4:46 PM, film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:59:01 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/its-not-aliens-white-house-shoots-down-popular-theory-objects-spotted-u-s

    Hey. Who you gonna listen to - Lackey Kirby or the commander of NORAD?

    -----------------------------------------------
    White House says a leading explanation for the 3 downed unidentified
    objects is that they were commercial or benign
    ----------------------------------------------
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/white-house-says-leading-explanation-3-downed-unidentified-objects-com-rcna70588

    I knew it. I just bygod knew it. They were capitalist, friendly
    aliens, and we summarily murdered them while they were doing marketing
    research. We're in deep doodoo now, because - if for no other reason -
    they can do antigravity and we can't.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Sounds like the beginning of a low budget Si-Fi movie, from back in the 1950s? Space aliens come in peace, then we start shooting them to rags, soon as they appear... If it is any of the ET tribe, let's hope they're not pissed off enough to break
    out their "death ray", or some machine, that can "booger" every electric device in the country!

    Gort the Robot Jr.

    Klaatu Barada Nikto
    --
    "I just saved a bunch of money on my insurance by switching to reverse
    and leaving the scene."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to film...@gmail.com on Tue Feb 14 20:28:50 2023
    film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:59:01 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/its-not-aliens-white-house-shoots-down-popular-theory-objects-spotted-u-s



    Hey. Who you gonna listen to - Lackey Kirby or the commander of NORAD?

    ----------------------------------------------- White House says
    a leading explanation for the 3 downed unidentified objects is
    that they were commercial or benign
    ----------------------------------------------
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/white-house-says-leading-explanation-3-downed-unidentified-objects-com-rcna70588



    I knew it. I just bygod knew it. They were capitalist, friendly
    aliens, and we summarily murdered them while they were doing
    marketing research. We're in deep doodoo now, because - if for no
    other reason - they can do antigravity and we can't. -- bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Sounds like the beginning of a low budget Si-Fi movie, from back
    in the 1950s? Space aliens come in peace, then we start shooting
    them to rags, soon as they appear... If it is any of the ET
    tribe, let's hope they're not pissed off enough to break out their
    "death ray", or some machine, that can "booger" every electric
    device in the country!

    Gort the Robot Jr.


    damright - and we don't even need ET's. A UNTFO (unidentified
    non-threatening floating object) is literally an efficacious way to
    deliver a high altitude EMP device.

    Ricky Fermi, Jr.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Tue Feb 14 19:47:35 2023
    On 2/14/2023 10:58 AM, bfh wrote:
    bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/its-not-aliens-white-house-shoots-down-popular-theory-objects-spotted-u-s
    Hey. Who you gonna listen to - Lackey Kirby or the commander of NORAD?

    -----------------------------------------------
    White House says a leading explanation for the 3 downed unidentified
    objects is that they were commercial or benign ---------------------------------------------- https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/white-house-says-leading-explanation-3-downed-unidentified-objects-com-rcna70588

    I knew it. I just bygod knew it. They were capitalist, friendly aliens,
    and we summarily murdered them while they were doing marketing research. We're in deep doodoo now, because - if for no other reason - they can do antigravity and we can't.


    I'm wondering about the pilot who missed with the first missile. Can't
    even hit a damn balloon.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Tue Feb 14 23:29:17 2023
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/14/2023 10:58 AM, bfh wrote:
    bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/its-not-aliens-white-house-shoots-down-popular-theory-objects-spotted-u-s

    Hey. Who you gonna listen to - Lackey Kirby or the commander of NORAD?

    -----------------------------------------------
    White House says a leading explanation for the 3 downed unidentified
    objects is that they were commercial or benign
    ----------------------------------------------
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/white-house-says-leading-explanation-3-downed-unidentified-objects-com-rcna70588


    I knew it. I just bygod knew it. They were capitalist, friendly
    aliens, and we summarily murdered them while they were doing
    marketing research. We're in deep doodoo now, because - if for no
    other reason - they can do antigravity and we can't.


    I'm wondering about the pilot who missed with the first missile. Can't
    even hit a damn balloon.

    The AIM-9 heatseeker - which has been around almost as long as I have
    - has an alleged success rate of 80-90% on aircraft. On an
    unidentified floating object that may or may not emit much IR, it is
    uniquely possible that 50% may or may not be that bad.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From dm_callier@21:1/5 to bfh on Wed Feb 15 14:14:30 2023
    On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 8:29:22 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/14/2023 10:58 AM, bfh wrote:
    bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/its-not-aliens-white-house-shoots-down-popular-theory-objects-spotted-u-s

    Hey. Who you gonna listen to - Lackey Kirby or the commander of NORAD? >>>
    -----------------------------------------------
    White House says a leading explanation for the 3 downed unidentified
    objects is that they were commercial or benign
    ----------------------------------------------
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/white-house-says-leading-explanation-3-downed-unidentified-objects-com-rcna70588


    I knew it. I just bygod knew it. They were capitalist, friendly
    aliens, and we summarily murdered them while they were doing
    marketing research. We're in deep doodoo now, because - if for no
    other reason - they can do antigravity and we can't.


    I'm wondering about the pilot who missed with the first missile. Can't
    even hit a damn balloon.
    The AIM-9 heatseeker - which has been around almost as long as I have
    - has an alleged success rate of 80-90% on aircraft. On an
    unidentified floating object that may or may not emit much IR, it is
    uniquely possible that 50% may or may not be that bad.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Beyond the obvious mystification of missing a big balloon with a missile, I'm wondering why a $400K missile was used in the first place (twice place?) when you'd think a balloon could be brought down fairly easily by less expensive cannon rounds...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jerry@21:1/5 to dm.callier@gmail.com on Wed Feb 15 17:16:11 2023
    On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 14:14:30 -0800 (PST), dm_callier
    <dm.callier@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 8:29:22 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/14/2023 10:58 AM, bfh wrote:
    bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/its-not-aliens-white-house-shoots-down-popular-theory-objects-spotted-u-s

    Hey. Who you gonna listen to - Lackey Kirby or the commander of NORAD? >> >>>
    -----------------------------------------------
    White House says a leading explanation for the 3 downed unidentified
    objects is that they were commercial or benign
    ----------------------------------------------
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/white-house-says-leading-explanation-3-downed-unidentified-objects-com-rcna70588


    I knew it. I just bygod knew it. They were capitalist, friendly
    aliens, and we summarily murdered them while they were doing
    marketing research. We're in deep doodoo now, because - if for no
    other reason - they can do antigravity and we can't.


    I'm wondering about the pilot who missed with the first missile. Can't
    even hit a damn balloon.
    The AIM-9 heatseeker - which has been around almost as long as I have
    - has an alleged success rate of 80-90% on aircraft. On an
    unidentified floating object that may or may not emit much IR, it is
    uniquely possible that 50% may or may not be that bad.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Beyond the obvious mystification of missing a big balloon with a missile, I'm wondering why a $400K missile was used in the first place (twice place?) when you'd think a balloon could be brought down fairly easily by less expensive cannon rounds...

    Bill alluded to that when he signed an earlier post as Frank Luke III.
    --

    Jerry O.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 15 20:09:57 2023
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 8:29:22 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/14/2023 10:58 AM, bfh wrote:
    bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/its-not-aliens-white-house-shoots-down-popular-theory-objects-spotted-u-s



    Hey. Who you gonna listen to - Lackey Kirby or the commander of NORAD?

    ----------------------------------------------- White House
    says a leading explanation for the 3 downed unidentified
    objects is that they were commercial or benign
    ----------------------------------------------
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/white-house-says-leading-explanation-3-downed-unidentified-objects-com-rcna70588




    I knew it. I just bygod knew it. They were capitalist, friendly
    aliens, and we summarily murdered them while they were doing
    marketing research. We're in deep doodoo now, because - if
    for no other reason - they can do antigravity and we can't.


    I'm wondering about the pilot who missed with the first
    missile. Can't even hit a damn balloon.
    The AIM-9 heatseeker - which has been around almost as long as I
    have - has an alleged success rate of 80-90% on aircraft. On an
    unidentified floating object that may or may not emit much IR, it
    is uniquely possible that 50% may or may not be that bad. --
    bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Beyond the obvious mystification of missing a big balloon with a
    missile, I'm wondering why a $400K missile was used in the first
    place (twice place?) when you'd think a balloon could be brought
    down fairly easily by less expensive cannon rounds...


    Maybe one of the mission planners was old enough to remember this: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- More than 25 years ago, a gigantic runaway weather balloon presented a
    massive challenge for two fighter jets when they attempted to shoot it
    down.

    The balloon continued to float in the air despite being hit by more
    than 1,000 rounds of ammunition in an uncanny incident that shocked
    the world.

    According to a report by the Associated Press, a research balloon
    measured the amount of ozone in Canada. In August 1998, it took off
    and flew across Canada, the Atlantic Ocean, and even the British
    airspace before it finally entered the Icelandic airspace and drifted northwards.

    Since the balloon went rogue, over 1,000 rounds were fired at it by
    two Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) CF-18 fighter planes after they
    spotted it over Newfoundland. The balloon was finally struck by the
    aircraft, but instead of popping or exploding and falling to the
    earth, it leaked helium very slowly and remained suspended in the air.

    Although the balloon was roughly the size of a 25-story building, a spokesperson for the Canadian military named Lieutenant Steve Wills
    told BBC that it was challenging to target it. “With something like
    this, which is stationary in the air when the CF-18s are flying very,
    very fast, it is difficult to shoot it,” Wills said. ---------------------------------------------------------- https://eurasiantimes.com/1000-rounds-fired-why-canada-could-not-shoot-down-this-research-balloon-using-best-of-fighter-jets-25-years-ago/

    However comma at the end of the day going forward, I think you should
    ask Bing's AI Chatbot what it thinks, and report back.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From dm_callier@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Feb 16 08:07:46 2023
    On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 5:10:01 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 8:29:22 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/14/2023 10:58 AM, bfh wrote:
    bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/its-not-aliens-white-house-shoots-down-popular-theory-objects-spotted-u-s



    Hey. Who you gonna listen to - Lackey Kirby or the commander of NORAD?

    ----------------------------------------------- White House
    says a leading explanation for the 3 downed unidentified
    objects is that they were commercial or benign
    ----------------------------------------------
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/white-house-says-leading-explanation-3-downed-unidentified-objects-com-rcna70588




    I knew it. I just bygod knew it. They were capitalist, friendly
    aliens, and we summarily murdered them while they were doing
    marketing research. We're in deep doodoo now, because - if
    for no other reason - they can do antigravity and we can't.


    I'm wondering about the pilot who missed with the first
    missile. Can't even hit a damn balloon.
    The AIM-9 heatseeker - which has been around almost as long as I
    have - has an alleged success rate of 80-90% on aircraft. On an
    unidentified floating object that may or may not emit much IR, it
    is uniquely possible that 50% may or may not be that bad. --
    bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Beyond the obvious mystification of missing a big balloon with a
    missile, I'm wondering why a $400K missile was used in the first
    place (twice place?) when you'd think a balloon could be brought
    down fairly easily by less expensive cannon rounds...

    Maybe one of the mission planners was old enough to remember this: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- More than 25 years ago, a gigantic runaway weather balloon presented a massive challenge for two fighter jets when they attempted to shoot it
    down.

    The balloon continued to float in the air despite being hit by more
    than 1,000 rounds of ammunition in an uncanny incident that shocked
    the world.

    According to a report by the Associated Press, a research balloon
    measured the amount of ozone in Canada. In August 1998, it took off
    and flew across Canada, the Atlantic Ocean, and even the British
    airspace before it finally entered the Icelandic airspace and drifted northwards.

    Since the balloon went rogue, over 1,000 rounds were fired at it by
    two Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) CF-18 fighter planes after they
    spotted it over Newfoundland. The balloon was finally struck by the aircraft, but instead of popping or exploding and falling to the
    earth, it leaked helium very slowly and remained suspended in the air.

    Although the balloon was roughly the size of a 25-story building, a spokesperson for the Canadian military named Lieutenant Steve Wills
    told BBC that it was challenging to target it. “With something like
    this, which is stationary in the air when the CF-18s are flying very,
    very fast, it is difficult to shoot it,” Wills said. ---------------------------------------------------------- https://eurasiantimes.com/1000-rounds-fired-why-canada-could-not-shoot-down-this-research-balloon-using-best-of-fighter-jets-25-years-ago/

    However comma at the end of the day going forward, I think you should
    ask Bing's AI Chatbot what it thinks, and report back.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work...So my hypothesis about the efficaciousness of cannon fire vis-a-vis big balloons seems to have already been tested and proven to approach zero on the efficacity scale. I feel impelled to follow the science in
    this matter.

    Enjoy the day!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 16 12:53:05 2023
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 5:10:01 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 8:29:22 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/14/2023 10:58 AM, bfh wrote:
    bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/its-not-aliens-white-house-shoots-down-popular-theory-objects-spotted-u-s





    Hey. Who you gonna listen to - Lackey Kirby or the commander of NORAD?

    ----------------------------------------------- White
    House says a leading explanation for the 3 downed
    unidentified objects is that they were commercial or
    benign ----------------------------------------------
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/white-house-says-leading-explanation-3-downed-unidentified-objects-com-rcna70588






    I knew it. I just bygod knew it. They were capitalist, friendly
    aliens, and we summarily murdered them while they were
    doing marketing research. We're in deep doodoo now,
    because - if for no other reason - they can do
    antigravity and we can't.


    I'm wondering about the pilot who missed with the first
    missile. Can't even hit a damn balloon.
    The AIM-9 heatseeker - which has been around almost as long
    as I have - has an alleged success rate of 80-90% on
    aircraft. On an unidentified floating object that may or may
    not emit much IR, it is uniquely possible that 50% may or may
    not be that bad. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
    work.

    Beyond the obvious mystification of missing a big balloon with
    a missile, I'm wondering why a $400K missile was used in the
    first place (twice place?) when you'd think a balloon could be
    brought down fairly easily by less expensive cannon rounds...

    Maybe one of the mission planners was old enough to remember
    this:
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>

    More than 25 years ago, a gigantic runaway weather balloon presented a
    massive challenge for two fighter jets when they attempted to
    shoot it down.

    The balloon continued to float in the air despite being hit by
    more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition in an uncanny incident that
    shocked the world.

    According to a report by the Associated Press, a research
    balloon measured the amount of ozone in Canada. In August 1998,
    it took off and flew across Canada, the Atlantic Ocean, and even
    the British airspace before it finally entered the Icelandic
    airspace and drifted northwards.

    Since the balloon went rogue, over 1,000 rounds were fired at it
    by two Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) CF-18 fighter planes after
    they spotted it over Newfoundland. The balloon was finally struck
    by the aircraft, but instead of popping or exploding and falling
    to the earth, it leaked helium very slowly and remained suspended
    in the air.

    Although the balloon was roughly the size of a 25-story building,
    a spokesperson for the Canadian military named Lieutenant Steve
    Wills told BBC that it was challenging to target it. “With
    something like this, which is stationary in the air when the
    CF-18s are flying very, very fast, it is difficult to shoot
    it,” Wills said.
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    https://eurasiantimes.com/1000-rounds-fired-why-canada-could-not-shoot-down-this-research-balloon-using-best-of-fighter-jets-25-years-ago/



    However comma at the end of the day going forward, I think you should
    ask Bing's AI Chatbot what it thinks, and report back. -- bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work...So my hypothesis about
    the efficaciousness of cannon fire vis-a-vis big balloons seems to
    have already been tested and proven to approach zero on the
    efficacity scale. I feel impelled to follow the science in this
    matter.

    Enjoy the day!


    Don't reorient and discount your self-calculus too hastily. The above
    account is just one metric - and it's an old metric - and it's
    uniquely possible that the Canadians can't shoot straight and/or the
    science might take a fork in the road in the passage of time. If
    myownself were yourownself, I'd just leave my theory on the table and transitorily put it in a loosely closed brown paper bag. And don't
    forget that the evidence has shown that it takes constant awareness
    and significant agility to follow the science.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From dm_callier@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Feb 16 11:24:26 2023
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:53:08 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 5:10:01 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 8:29:22 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/14/2023 10:58 AM, bfh wrote:
    bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/its-not-aliens-white-house-shoots-down-popular-theory-objects-spotted-u-s





    Hey. Who you gonna listen to - Lackey Kirby or the commander of NORAD? >>>>>>>
    ----------------------------------------------- White
    House says a leading explanation for the 3 downed
    unidentified objects is that they were commercial or
    benign ----------------------------------------------
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/white-house-says-leading-explanation-3-downed-unidentified-objects-com-rcna70588






    I knew it. I just bygod knew it. They were capitalist, friendly
    aliens, and we summarily murdered them while they were
    doing marketing research. We're in deep doodoo now,
    because - if for no other reason - they can do
    antigravity and we can't.


    I'm wondering about the pilot who missed with the first
    missile. Can't even hit a damn balloon.
    The AIM-9 heatseeker - which has been around almost as long
    as I have - has an alleged success rate of 80-90% on
    aircraft. On an unidentified floating object that may or may
    not emit much IR, it is uniquely possible that 50% may or may
    not be that bad. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
    work.

    Beyond the obvious mystification of missing a big balloon with
    a missile, I'm wondering why a $400K missile was used in the
    first place (twice place?) when you'd think a balloon could be
    brought down fairly easily by less expensive cannon rounds...

    Maybe one of the mission planners was old enough to remember
    this:
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------


    More than 25 years ago, a gigantic runaway weather balloon presented a
    massive challenge for two fighter jets when they attempted to
    shoot it down.

    The balloon continued to float in the air despite being hit by
    more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition in an uncanny incident that
    shocked the world.

    According to a report by the Associated Press, a research
    balloon measured the amount of ozone in Canada. In August 1998,
    it took off and flew across Canada, the Atlantic Ocean, and even
    the British airspace before it finally entered the Icelandic
    airspace and drifted northwards.

    Since the balloon went rogue, over 1,000 rounds were fired at it
    by two Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) CF-18 fighter planes after
    they spotted it over Newfoundland. The balloon was finally struck
    by the aircraft, but instead of popping or exploding and falling
    to the earth, it leaked helium very slowly and remained suspended
    in the air.

    Although the balloon was roughly the size of a 25-story building,
    a spokesperson for the Canadian military named Lieutenant Steve
    Wills told BBC that it was challenging to target it. “With
    something like this, which is stationary in the air when the
    CF-18s are flying very, very fast, it is difficult to shoot
    it,†Wills said.
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    https://eurasiantimes.com/1000-rounds-fired-why-canada-could-not-shoot-down-this-research-balloon-using-best-of-fighter-jets-25-years-ago/



    However comma at the end of the day going forward, I think you should
    ask Bing's AI Chatbot what it thinks, and report back. -- bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work...So my hypothesis about
    the efficaciousness of cannon fire vis-a-vis big balloons seems to
    have already been tested and proven to approach zero on the
    efficacity scale. I feel impelled to follow the science in this
    matter.

    Enjoy the day!

    Don't reorient and discount your self-calculus too hastily. The above account is just one metric - and it's an old metric - and it's
    uniquely possible that the Canadians can't shoot straight and/or the
    science might take a fork in the road in the passage of time. If
    myownself were yourownself, I'd just leave my theory on the table and transitorily put it in a loosely closed brown paper bag. And don't
    forget that the evidence has shown that it takes constant awareness
    and significant agility to follow the science.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
    It's just a hypothesis unsupported by currently available data at this stage, so it hasn't risen to the esteemed level of "theory." But you're quite correct that I might be wise to "keep it on the table" while searching for more data. The dataset is
    small, and equipment and skill of Canadian pilots is an unknown variable.

    On another hand, the possible conjunction of myownself and yourownself in any aspect of agreement is a troubling proposition quite contrary to my fundamental personal cosmic calculation of the nature of reality. Going forward from this point in time, I'
    ll try to keep an open mind and follow the science if further data is discovered, but I don't see a high probability.

    Enjoy the day!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 16 20:08:50 2023
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:53:08 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 5:10:01 PM UTC-8, bfh
    wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 8:29:22 PM UTC-8, bfh
    wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/14/2023 10:58 AM, bfh wrote:
    bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/its-not-aliens-white-house-shoots-down-popular-theory-objects-spotted-u-s







    Hey. Who you gonna listen to - Lackey Kirby or the commander of NORAD? >>>>>>>>>
    -----------------------------------------------
    White House says a leading explanation for the 3
    downed unidentified objects is that they were
    commercial or benign
    ----------------------------------------------
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/white-house-says-leading-explanation-3-downed-unidentified-objects-com-rcna70588








    I knew it. I just bygod knew it. They were capitalist, friendly
    aliens, and we summarily murdered them while they
    were doing marketing research. We're in deep doodoo
    now, because - if for no other reason - they can do
    antigravity and we can't.


    I'm wondering about the pilot who missed with the
    first missile. Can't even hit a damn balloon.
    The AIM-9 heatseeker - which has been around almost as
    long as I have - has an alleged success rate of 80-90%
    on aircraft. On an unidentified floating object that may
    or may not emit much IR, it is uniquely possible that 50%
    may or may not be that bad. -- bill Theory don't mean
    squat if it don't work.

    Beyond the obvious mystification of missing a big balloon
    with a missile, I'm wondering why a $400K missile was used
    in the first place (twice place?) when you'd think a
    balloon could be brought down fairly easily by less
    expensive cannon rounds...

    Maybe one of the mission planners was old enough to remember
    this:
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------




    More than 25 years ago, a gigantic runaway weather balloon presented a
    massive challenge for two fighter jets when they attempted
    to shoot it down.

    The balloon continued to float in the air despite being hit
    by more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition in an uncanny
    incident that shocked the world.

    According to a report by the Associated Press, a research
    balloon measured the amount of ozone in Canada. In August
    1998, it took off and flew across Canada, the Atlantic Ocean,
    and even the British airspace before it finally entered the
    Icelandic airspace and drifted northwards.

    Since the balloon went rogue, over 1,000 rounds were fired at
    it by two Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) CF-18 fighter
    planes after they spotted it over Newfoundland. The balloon
    was finally struck by the aircraft, but instead of popping or
    exploding and falling to the earth, it leaked helium very
    slowly and remained suspended in the air.

    Although the balloon was roughly the size of a 25-story
    building, a spokesperson for the Canadian military named
    Lieutenant Steve Wills told BBC that it was challenging to
    target it. “With something like this, which is
    stationary in the air when the CF-18s are flying very, very
    fast, it is difficult to shoot it,†Wills said.
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    https://eurasiantimes.com/1000-rounds-fired-why-canada-could-not-shoot-down-this-research-balloon-using-best-of-fighter-jets-25-years-ago/





    However comma at the end of the day going forward, I think you should
    ask Bing's AI Chatbot what it thinks, and report back. --
    bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work...So my hypothesis
    about the efficaciousness of cannon fire vis-a-vis big balloons
    seems to have already been tested and proven to approach zero
    on the efficacity scale. I feel impelled to follow the science
    in this matter.

    Enjoy the day!

    Don't reorient and discount your self-calculus too hastily. The
    above account is just one metric - and it's an old metric - and
    it's uniquely possible that the Canadians can't shoot straight
    and/or the science might take a fork in the road in the passage
    of time. If myownself were yourownself, I'd just leave my theory
    on the table and transitorily put it in a loosely closed brown
    paper bag. And don't forget that the evidence has shown that it
    takes constant awareness and significant agility to follow the
    science. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
    It's just a hypothesis unsupported by currently available data at
    this stage, so it hasn't risen to the esteemed level of "theory."
    But you're quite correct that I might be wise to "keep it on the
    table" while searching for more data. The dataset is small, and
    equipment and skill of Canadian pilots is an unknown variable.

    Just so you'll know, I've simplified my life by ignoring the
    distinction between a hypothesis and a theory, since most people give
    less of a shit about that than they do about the difference between
    efficacy and effectiveness.

    On another hand, the possible conjunction of myownself and
    yourownself in any aspect of agreement is a troubling proposition
    quite contrary to my fundamental personal cosmic calculation of the
    nature of reality. Going forward from this point in time, I'll try
    to keep an open mind and follow the science if further data is
    discovered, but I don't see a high probability.

    Look, so, does that, like, mean (blink blink blink blink...) you're OK
    with literally shooting down unidentified unknown objects - which may
    or may not even be technically a balloon - with a 400 million dollar
    missile?

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From dm_callier@21:1/5 to bfh on Fri Feb 17 08:37:29 2023
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 5:08:54 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    <BigSnip>
    Look, so, does that, like, mean (blink blink blink blink...) you're OK
    with literally shooting down unidentified unknown objects - which may
    or may not even be technically a balloon - with a 400 million dollar missile?
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
    Well,
    a) It's only a $400K missile.
    b) Considering moral, ethical and/or political considerations is too close to the metaphysical to be part of my current calculus as pertains to transitory high altitude objects.
    When:
    c) Going forward, I was only really interested in following the science in re the efficacy and economics of downing biggly objects at high altitude with $400K missiles versus with cannon fire that I posited would be less expensive with similar or
    enhanced efficacy.

    Enjoy the day!
    dmc

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From dm_callier@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 17 10:16:21 2023
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 8:37:31 AM UTC-8, dm_callier wrote:
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 5:08:54 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    <BigSnip>
    Look, so, does that, like, mean (blink blink blink blink...) you're OK with literally shooting down unidentified unknown objects - which may
    or may not even be technically a balloon - with a 400 million dollar missile?
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
    Well,
    a) It's only a $400K missile.
    b) Considering moral, ethical and/or political considerations is too close to the metaphysical to be part of my current calculus as pertains to transitory high altitude objects.
    When:
    c) Going forward, I was only really interested in following the science in re the efficacy and economics of downing biggly objects at high altitude with $400K missiles versus with cannon fire that I posited would be less expensive with similar or
    enhanced efficacy.

    Enjoy the day!
    dmc
    And now it turns out that all the objects fired on weren't necessarily biggly at all. The efficiency of the $400K missile may be higher than first I supposed if the rumor of the downing of a balloon with a diameter of 3-9 feet is verified–efficacy
    still in some doubt.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 17 17:24:07 2023
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 8:37:31 AM UTC-8, dm_callier
    wrote:
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 5:08:54 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    <BigSnip>
    Look, so, does that, like, mean (blink blink blink blink...)
    you're OK with literally shooting down unidentified unknown
    objects - which may or may not even be technically a balloon -
    with a 400 million dollar missile? -- bill Theory don't mean
    squat if it don't work.
    Well, a) It's only a $400K missile. b) Considering moral, ethical
    and/or political considerations is too close to the metaphysical
    to be part of my current calculus as pertains to transitory high
    altitude objects. When: c) Going forward, I was only really
    interested in following the science in re the efficacy and
    economics of downing biggly objects at high altitude with $400K
    missiles versus with cannon fire that I posited would be less
    expensive with similar or enhanced efficacy.

    Enjoy the day! dmc
    And now it turns out that all the objects fired on weren't
    necessarily biggly at all. The efficiency of the $400K missile may
    be higher than first I supposed if the rumor of the downing of a
    balloon with a diameter of 3-9 feet is verified–efficacy still in
    some doubt.

    yeah but but but since they were unknown unidentified aerial objects
    of undetermined - and possibly extraterrestrial - origin, we shot them
    down out of an abundance of caution. Besides, I'll bet the pilots
    thought it was more fun than they've had since they got out of fighter
    pilot training - and they're probably already wearing a Balloon Killer
    patch on their flight suits and getting free drinks at Happy Hour. I
    would be surprised if the O' Club bartenders didn't invent a drink
    that "will blow your payload off".

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Sat Feb 18 09:11:47 2023
    On 2/17/2023 2:24 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 8:37:31 AM UTC-8, dm_callier
    wrote:
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 5:08:54 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote: <BigSnip> >>>> Look, so, does that, like, mean (blink blink blink blink...)
    you're OK with literally shooting down unidentified unknown
    objects - which may or may not even be technically a balloon -
    with a 400 million dollar missile? -- bill Theory don't mean
    squat if it don't work.
    Well, a) It's only a $400K missile. b) Considering moral, ethical
    and/or political considerations is too close to the metaphysical
    to be part of my current calculus as pertains to transitory high
    altitude objects. When: c) Going forward, I was only really
    interested in following the science in re the efficacy and
    economics of downing biggly objects at high altitude with $400K
    missiles versus with cannon fire that I posited would be less
    expensive with similar or enhanced efficacy.

    Enjoy the day! dmc
    And now it turns out that all the objects fired on weren't
    necessarily biggly at all. The efficiency  of the $400K missile may
    be higher than first I supposed if the rumor of the downing of a
    balloon with a diameter of 3-9 feet is verified–efficacy still in
    some doubt.

    yeah but but but since they were unknown unidentified aerial objects of undetermined - and possibly extraterrestrial - origin, we shot them down
    out of an abundance of caution. Besides, I'll bet the pilots thought it
    was more fun than they've had since they got out of fighter pilot
    training - and they're probably already wearing a Balloon Killer patch
    on their flight suits and getting free drinks at Happy Hour. I would be surprised if the O' Club bartenders didn't invent a drink that "will
    blow your payload off".


    I'm mostly surprised that your own MTG didn't arrange to have them shot
    down with those Jewish space lasers - the efficacy of which has already
    been proven in the forests of North America. Or, if they could detect
    them closer to launch, they could have Josh Hawley trot by them whereby
    the balloon would be sucked into his vortex never to be seen again. Or,
    or, or how about getting some of them Jan 6 tourists to leap on the
    balloons in their "patriotic" fever to save their dear leader and stab
    holes in the balloons with their orange goon flags.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Sat Feb 18 13:59:49 2023
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/17/2023 2:24 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 8:37:31 AM UTC-8, dm_callier
    wrote:
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 5:08:54 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    <BigSnip>
    Look, so, does that, like, mean (blink blink blink blink...)
    you're OK with literally shooting down unidentified unknown
    objects - which may or may not even be technically a balloon -
    with a 400 million dollar missile? -- bill Theory don't mean
    squat if it don't work.
    Well, a) It's only a $400K missile. b) Considering moral, ethical
    and/or political considerations is too close to the metaphysical
    to be part of my current calculus as pertains to transitory high
    altitude objects. When: c) Going forward, I was only really
    interested in following the science in re the efficacy and
    economics of downing biggly objects at high altitude with $400K
    missiles versus with cannon fire that I posited would be less
    expensive with similar or enhanced efficacy.

    Enjoy the day! dmc
    And now it turns out that all the objects fired on weren't
    necessarily biggly at all. The efficiency  of the $400K missile may
    be higher than first I supposed if the rumor of the downing of a
    balloon with a diameter of 3-9 feet is verified–efficacy >>> still in
    some doubt.

    yeah but but but since they were unknown unidentified aerial objects
    of undetermined - and possibly extraterrestrial - origin, we shot
    them down out of an abundance of caution. Besides, I'll bet the
    pilots thought it was more fun than they've had since they got out
    of fighter pilot training - and they're probably already wearing a
    Balloon Killer patch on their flight suits and getting free drinks
    at Happy Hour. I would be surprised if the O' Club bartenders didn't
    invent a drink that "will blow your payload off".


    I'm mostly surprised that your own MTG didn't arrange to have them
    shot down with those Jewish space lasers - the efficacy of which has
    already been proven in the forests of North America. Or, if they could
    detect them closer to launch, they could have Josh Hawley trot by them whereby the balloon would be sucked into his vortex never to be seen
    again. Or, or, or how about getting some of them Jan 6 tourists to
    leap on the balloons in their "patriotic" fever to save their dear
    leader and stab holes in the balloons with their orange goon flags.

    LOL. It's literally intuitively obvious to the most casual observer
    that you don't have a working knowledge of altitude or of the exterior ballistics metrics of orange goon flags. You're just one more
    self-identified expert who isn't. And look, by the way, at the end of
    day going forward - or even like, backward - MTG is not mine. That dog
    won't hunt and that spaghetti won't stick.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Sat Feb 18 22:55:57 2023
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/18/2023 10:59 AM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/17/2023 2:24 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 8:37:31 AM UTC-8, dm_callier
    wrote:
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 5:08:54 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    <BigSnip>
    Look, so, does that, like, mean (blink blink blink blink...)
    you're OK with literally shooting down unidentified unknown
    objects - which may or may not even be technically a balloon -
    with a 400 million dollar missile? -- bill Theory don't mean
    squat if it don't work.
    Well, a) It's only a $400K missile. b) Considering moral, ethical
    and/or political considerations is too close to the metaphysical
    to be part of my current calculus as pertains to transitory high
    altitude objects. When: c) Going forward, I was only really
    interested in following the science in re the efficacy and
    economics of downing biggly objects at high altitude with $400K
    missiles versus with cannon fire that I posited would be less
    expensive with similar or enhanced efficacy.

    Enjoy the day! dmc
    And now it turns out that all the objects fired on weren't
    necessarily biggly at all. The efficiency  of the $400K
    missile may
    be higher than first I supposed if the rumor of the downing of a
    balloon with a diameter of 3-9 feet is
    verified–efficacy still in
    some doubt.

    yeah but but but since they were unknown unidentified aerial
    objects of undetermined - and possibly extraterrestrial - origin,
    we shot them down out of an abundance of caution. Besides, I'll
    bet the pilots thought it was more fun than they've had since they
    got out of fighter pilot training - and they're probably already
    wearing a Balloon Killer patch on their flight suits and getting
    free drinks at Happy Hour. I would be surprised if the O' Club
    bartenders didn't invent a drink that "will blow your payload off".


    I'm mostly surprised that your own MTG didn't arrange to have them
    shot down with those Jewish space lasers - the efficacy of which
    has already been proven in the forests of North America. Or, if
    they could detect them closer to launch, they could have Josh
    Hawley trot by them whereby the balloon would be sucked into his
    vortex never to be seen again. Or, or, or how about getting some of
    them Jan 6 tourists to leap on the balloons in their "patriotic"
    fever to save their dear leader and stab holes in the balloons with
    their orange goon flags.

    LOL. It's literally intuitively obvious to the most casual observer
    that you don't have a working knowledge of altitude or of the
    exterior ballistics metrics of orange goon flags. You're just one
    more self-identified expert who isn't. And look, by the way, at the
    end of day going forward - or even like, backward - MTG is not mine.
    That dog won't hunt and that spaghetti won't stick.


    Ahhh, c'mon. There's enough hot air in your George Santos to reach
    space. HawHawHaw!

    He's not mine, either. If there were literally any justice in any of
    the toolboxes on the table, you would be red-flagged, all of your -
    probably unregistered - spaghetti would be summarily confiscated, and
    your name would be put on the Federal No Pasta List.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Sat Feb 18 19:16:21 2023
    On 2/18/2023 10:59 AM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/17/2023 2:24 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 8:37:31 AM UTC-8, dm_callier
    wrote:
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 5:08:54 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    <BigSnip>
    Look, so, does that, like, mean (blink blink blink blink...)
    you're OK with literally shooting down unidentified unknown
    objects - which may or may not even be technically a balloon -
    with a 400 million dollar missile? -- bill Theory don't mean
    squat if it don't work.
    Well, a) It's only a $400K missile. b) Considering moral, ethical
    and/or political considerations is too close to the metaphysical
    to be part of my current calculus as pertains to transitory high
    altitude objects. When: c) Going forward, I was only really
    interested in following the science in re the efficacy and
    economics of downing biggly objects at high altitude with $400K
    missiles versus with cannon fire that I posited would be less
    expensive with similar or enhanced efficacy.

    Enjoy the day! dmc
    And now it turns out that all the objects fired on weren't
    necessarily biggly at all. The efficiency  of the $400K missile may >>>> be higher than first I supposed if the rumor of the downing of a
    balloon with a diameter of 3-9 feet is verified–efficacy >>>> still in
    some doubt.

    yeah but but but since they were unknown unidentified aerial objects
    of undetermined - and possibly extraterrestrial - origin, we shot
    them down out of an abundance of caution. Besides, I'll bet the
    pilots thought it was more fun than they've had since they got out of
    fighter pilot training - and they're probably already wearing a
    Balloon Killer patch on their flight suits and getting free drinks at
    Happy Hour. I would be surprised if the O' Club bartenders didn't
    invent a drink that "will blow your payload off".


    I'm mostly surprised that your own MTG didn't arrange to have them
    shot down with those Jewish space lasers - the efficacy of which has
    already been proven in the forests of North America. Or, if they could
    detect them closer to launch, they could have Josh Hawley trot by them
    whereby the balloon would be sucked into his vortex never to be seen
    again. Or, or, or how about getting some of them Jan 6 tourists to
    leap on the balloons in their "patriotic" fever to save their dear
    leader and stab holes in the balloons with their orange goon flags.

    LOL. It's literally intuitively obvious to the most casual observer that
    you don't have a working knowledge of altitude or of the exterior
    ballistics metrics of orange goon flags. You're just one more
    self-identified expert who isn't. And look, by the way, at the end of
    day going forward - or even like, backward - MTG is not mine. That dog
    won't hunt and that spaghetti won't stick.


    Ahhh, c'mon. There's enough hot air in your George Santos to reach
    space. HawHawHaw!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Sun Feb 19 19:32:55 2023
    On 2/18/2023 7:55 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/18/2023 10:59 AM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/17/2023 2:24 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 8:37:31 AM UTC-8, dm_callier
    wrote:
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 5:08:54 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    <BigSnip>
    Look, so, does that, like, mean (blink blink blink blink...)
    you're OK with literally shooting down unidentified unknown
    objects - which may or may not even be technically a balloon - >>>>>>>> with a 400 million dollar missile? -- bill Theory don't mean
    squat if it don't work.
    Well, a) It's only a $400K missile. b) Considering moral, ethical >>>>>>> and/or political considerations is too close to the metaphysical >>>>>>> to be part of my current calculus as pertains to transitory high >>>>>>> altitude objects. When: c) Going forward, I was only really
    interested in following the science in re the efficacy and
    economics of downing biggly objects at high altitude with $400K
    missiles versus with cannon fire that I posited would be less
    expensive with similar or enhanced efficacy.

    Enjoy the day! dmc
    And now it turns out that all the objects fired on weren't
    necessarily biggly at all. The efficiency  of the $400K missile >>>>>> may
    be higher than first I supposed if the rumor of the downing of a
    balloon with a diameter of 3-9 feet is
    verified–efficacy still in
    some doubt.

    yeah but but but since they were unknown unidentified aerial
    objects of undetermined - and possibly extraterrestrial - origin,
    we shot them down out of an abundance of caution. Besides, I'll bet
    the pilots thought it was more fun than they've had since they got
    out of fighter pilot training - and they're probably already
    wearing a Balloon Killer patch on their flight suits and getting
    free drinks at Happy Hour. I would be surprised if the O' Club
    bartenders didn't invent a drink that "will blow your payload off".


    I'm mostly surprised that your own MTG didn't arrange to have them
    shot down with those Jewish space lasers - the efficacy of which has
    already been proven in the forests of North America. Or, if they
    could detect them closer to launch, they could have Josh Hawley trot
    by them whereby the balloon would be sucked into his vortex never to
    be seen again. Or, or, or how about getting some of them Jan 6
    tourists to leap on the balloons in their "patriotic" fever to save
    their dear leader and stab holes in the balloons with their orange
    goon flags.

    LOL. It's literally intuitively obvious to the most casual observer
    that you don't have a working knowledge of altitude or of the
    exterior ballistics metrics of orange goon flags. You're just one
    more self-identified expert who isn't. And look, by the way, at the
    end of day going forward - or even like, backward - MTG is not mine.
    That dog won't hunt and that spaghetti won't stick.


    Ahhh, c'mon. There's enough hot air in your George Santos to reach
    space. HawHawHaw!

    He's not mine, either. If there were literally any justice in any of the toolboxes on the table, you would be red-flagged, all of your - probably unregistered - spaghetti would be summarily confiscated, and your name
    would be put on the Federal No Pasta List.


    Jeepers! You are sooo sensitive. Are you sure you ain't woke? HawHawHaw!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Sun Feb 19 23:11:08 2023
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/18/2023 7:55 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/18/2023 10:59 AM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/17/2023 2:24 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 8:37:31 AM UTC-8, dm_callier
    wrote:
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 5:08:54 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote: >>>>>>>> <BigSnip>
    Look, so, does that, like, mean (blink blink blink blink...) >>>>>>>>> you're OK with literally shooting down unidentified unknown
    objects - which may or may not even be technically a balloon - >>>>>>>>> with a 400 million dollar missile? -- bill Theory don't mean >>>>>>>>> squat if it don't work.
    Well, a) It's only a $400K missile. b) Considering moral, ethical >>>>>>>> and/or political considerations is too close to the metaphysical >>>>>>>> to be part of my current calculus as pertains to transitory high >>>>>>>> altitude objects. When: c) Going forward, I was only really
    interested in following the science in re the efficacy and
    economics of downing biggly objects at high altitude with $400K >>>>>>>> missiles versus with cannon fire that I posited would be less
    expensive with similar or enhanced efficacy.

    Enjoy the day! dmc
    And now it turns out that all the objects fired on weren't
    necessarily biggly at all. The efficiency  of the $400K
    missile may
    be higher than first I supposed if the rumor of the downing of a >>>>>>> balloon with a diameter of 3-9 feet is
    verified–efficacy still in
    some doubt.

    yeah but but but since they were unknown unidentified aerial
    objects of undetermined - and possibly extraterrestrial -
    origin, we shot them down out of an abundance of caution.
    Besides, I'll bet the pilots thought it was more fun than
    they've had since they got out of fighter pilot training - and
    they're probably already wearing a Balloon Killer patch on their
    flight suits and getting free drinks at Happy Hour. I would be
    surprised if the O' Club bartenders didn't invent a drink that
    "will blow your payload off".


    I'm mostly surprised that your own MTG didn't arrange to have
    them shot down with those Jewish space lasers - the efficacy of
    which has already been proven in the forests of North America.
    Or, if they could detect them closer to launch, they could have
    Josh Hawley trot by them whereby the balloon would be sucked into
    his vortex never to be seen again. Or, or, or how about getting
    some of them Jan 6 tourists to leap on the balloons in their
    "patriotic" fever to save their dear leader and stab holes in the
    balloons with their orange goon flags.

    LOL. It's literally intuitively obvious to the most casual
    observer that you don't have a working knowledge of altitude or of
    the exterior ballistics metrics of orange goon flags. You're just
    one more self-identified expert who isn't. And look, by the way,
    at the end of day going forward - or even like, backward - MTG is
    not mine. That dog won't hunt and that spaghetti won't stick.


    Ahhh, c'mon. There's enough hot air in your George Santos to reach
    space. HawHawHaw!

    He's not mine, either. If there were literally any justice in any of
    the toolboxes on the table, you would be red-flagged, all of your -
    probably unregistered - spaghetti would be summarily confiscated,
    and your name would be put on the Federal No Pasta List.


    Jeepers! You are sooo sensitive. Are you sure you ain't woke? HawHawHaw!

    Can't be. I take too many naps to qualify.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From filmbydon@gmail.com@21:1/5 to bfh on Mon Feb 20 00:00:34 2023
    On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 8:11:11 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/18/2023 7:55 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/18/2023 10:59 AM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/17/2023 2:24 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 8:37:31 AM UTC-8, dm_callier
    wrote:
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 5:08:54 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote: >>>>>>>> <BigSnip>
    Look, so, does that, like, mean (blink blink blink blink...) >>>>>>>>> you're OK with literally shooting down unidentified unknown >>>>>>>>> objects - which may or may not even be technically a balloon - >>>>>>>>> with a 400 million dollar missile? -- bill Theory don't mean >>>>>>>>> squat if it don't work.
    Well, a) It's only a $400K missile. b) Considering moral, ethical >>>>>>>> and/or political considerations is too close to the metaphysical >>>>>>>> to be part of my current calculus as pertains to transitory high >>>>>>>> altitude objects. When: c) Going forward, I was only really >>>>>>>> interested in following the science in re the efficacy and
    economics of downing biggly objects at high altitude with $400K >>>>>>>> missiles versus with cannon fire that I posited would be less >>>>>>>> expensive with similar or enhanced efficacy.

    Enjoy the day! dmc
    And now it turns out that all the objects fired on weren't
    necessarily biggly at all. The efficiency of the $400K
    missile may
    be higher than first I supposed if the rumor of the downing of a >>>>>>> balloon with a diameter of 3-9 feet is
    verified–efficacy still in
    some doubt.

    yeah but but but since they were unknown unidentified aerial
    objects of undetermined - and possibly extraterrestrial -
    origin, we shot them down out of an abundance of caution.
    Besides, I'll bet the pilots thought it was more fun than
    they've had since they got out of fighter pilot training - and
    they're probably already wearing a Balloon Killer patch on their >>>>>> flight suits and getting free drinks at Happy Hour. I would be
    surprised if the O' Club bartenders didn't invent a drink that
    "will blow your payload off".


    I'm mostly surprised that your own MTG didn't arrange to have
    them shot down with those Jewish space lasers - the efficacy of
    which has already been proven in the forests of North America.
    Or, if they could detect them closer to launch, they could have
    Josh Hawley trot by them whereby the balloon would be sucked into >>>>> his vortex never to be seen again. Or, or, or how about getting
    some of them Jan 6 tourists to leap on the balloons in their
    "patriotic" fever to save their dear leader and stab holes in the >>>>> balloons with their orange goon flags.

    LOL. It's literally intuitively obvious to the most casual
    observer that you don't have a working knowledge of altitude or of
    the exterior ballistics metrics of orange goon flags. You're just
    one more self-identified expert who isn't. And look, by the way,
    at the end of day going forward - or even like, backward - MTG is
    not mine. That dog won't hunt and that spaghetti won't stick.


    Ahhh, c'mon. There's enough hot air in your George Santos to reach
    space. HawHawHaw!

    He's not mine, either. If there were literally any justice in any of
    the toolboxes on the table, you would be red-flagged, all of your -
    probably unregistered - spaghetti would be summarily confiscated,
    and your name would be put on the Federal No Pasta List.


    Jeepers! You are sooo sensitive. Are you sure you ain't woke? HawHawHaw!
    Can't be. I take too many naps to qualify.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    I'm sympathetic to "woke" as meaning "personal & social awareness", yet I still find myownself mostly identifying as "perplexed", due to my frequent wondering, "WTF do some people do like they do?" Worse, it's not a feeling that provides me with
    much comfort! HawHawHaw!

    Miss Manners Jr.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to film...@gmail.com on Mon Feb 20 04:02:28 2023
    film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 8:11:11 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/18/2023 7:55 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/18/2023 10:59 AM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/17/2023 2:24 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 8:37:31 AM UTC-8,
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 5:08:54 PM
    UTC-8, bfh wrote: <BigSnip>
    Look, so, does that, like, mean (blink blink
    blink blink...) you're OK with literally
    shooting down unidentified unknown objects -
    which may or may not even be technically a
    balloon - with a 400 million dollar missile? --
    bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
    Well, a) It's only a $400K missile. b)
    Considering moral, ethical and/or political
    considerations is too close to the metaphysical
    to be part of my current calculus as pertains to
    transitory high altitude objects. When: c) Going
    forward, I was only really interested in
    following the science in re the efficacy and
    economics of downing biggly objects at high
    altitude with $400K missiles versus with cannon
    fire that I posited would be less expensive with
    similar or enhanced efficacy.

    Enjoy the day! dmc
    And now it turns out that all the objects fired on
    weren't necessarily biggly at all. The
    efficiency of the $400K missile
    may be higher than first I supposed if the rumor of
    the downing of a balloon with a diameter of 3-9
    feet is
    verified–efficacy
    still in some doubt.

    yeah but but but since they were unknown unidentified
    aerial objects of undetermined - and possibly
    extraterrestrial - origin, we shot them down out of
    an abundance of caution. Besides, I'll bet the pilots
    thought it was more fun than they've had since they
    got out of fighter pilot training - and they're
    probably already wearing a Balloon Killer patch on
    their flight suits and getting free drinks at Happy
    Hour. I would be surprised if the O' Club bartenders
    didn't invent a drink that "will blow your payload
    off".


    I'm mostly surprised that your own MTG didn't arrange
    to have them shot down with those Jewish space lasers -
    the efficacy of which has already been proven in the
    forests of North America. Or, if they could detect them
    closer to launch, they could have Josh Hawley trot by
    them whereby the balloon would be sucked into his
    vortex never to be seen again. Or, or, or how about
    getting some of them Jan 6 tourists to leap on the
    balloons in their "patriotic" fever to save their dear
    leader and stab holes in the balloons with their orange
    goon flags.

    LOL. It's literally intuitively obvious to the most
    casual observer that you don't have a working knowledge
    of altitude or of the exterior ballistics metrics of
    orange goon flags. You're just one more self-identified
    expert who isn't. And look, by the way, at the end of day
    going forward - or even like, backward - MTG is not mine.
    That dog won't hunt and that spaghetti won't stick.


    Ahhh, c'mon. There's enough hot air in your George Santos
    to reach space. HawHawHaw!

    He's not mine, either. If there were literally any justice in
    any of the toolboxes on the table, you would be red-flagged,
    all of your - probably unregistered - spaghetti would be
    summarily confiscated, and your name would be put on the
    Federal No Pasta List.


    Jeepers! You are sooo sensitive. Are you sure you ain't woke?
    HawHawHaw!
    Can't be. I take too many naps to qualify. -- bill Theory don't
    mean squat if it don't work.

    I'm sympathetic to "woke" as meaning "personal & social awareness",
    yet I still find myownself mostly identifying as "perplexed", due
    to my frequent wondering, "WTF do some people do like they do?"
    Worse, it's not a feeling that provides me with much comfort!
    HawHawHaw!

    Miss Manners Jr.

    To which people doing what are you referring, Miss?

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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