-------------------------------------------------------
“Why not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward here,” the
official said. “So the first question is, does it pose a threat, a
physical kinetic threat, to individuals in the United States in the US homeland? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a threat to
civilian aviation? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a significantly enhanced threat on the intelligence side? Our best
assessment right now is that it does not. So given that profile, we
assess the risk of downing it, even if the probability is low in a
sparsely populated area of the debris falling and hurting someone or
damaging property, that it wasn’t worth it.”
-------------------------------------------------------- https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/politics/us-tracking-china-spy-balloon/index.html
but but but.....what if a meteorite punches a hole in it or a dead
Starlink satellite falls on it or a megaMAGA white supremacist redneck cracker shoots holes in it with his bumpstocked AR-15 assault rifle
when it's over NYC and the 3 buses fall on some liberals? How're they
going to explain not shooting it down over Montana where even if it
falls on somebody, the few people who're there don't matter much. The calculus of this decision is literally outrageous and everything
should be on the table and somebody should be held accountable at the
end of the day going forward.
Tattoo II
-------------------------------------------------------
“Why not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward here,” the official said. “So the first question is, does it pose a threat, a physical kinetic threat, to individuals in the United States in the US homeland? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a threat to
civilian aviation? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a significantly enhanced threat on the intelligence side? Our best
assessment right now is that it does not. So given that profile, we
assess the risk of downing it, even if the probability is low in a
sparsely populated area of the debris falling and hurting someone or damaging property, that it wasn’t worth it.” -------------------------------------------------------- https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/politics/us-tracking-china-spy-balloon/index.html
but but but.....what if a meteorite punches a hole in it or a dead
Starlink satellite falls on it or a megaMAGA white supremacist redneck cracker shoots holes in it with his bumpstocked AR-15 assault rifle
when it's over NYC and the 3 buses fall on some liberals? How're they
going to explain not shooting it down over Montana where even if it
falls on somebody, the few people who're there don't matter much. The calculus of this decision is literally outrageous and everything
should be on the table and somebody should be held accountable at the
end of the day going forward.
Tattoo II
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:24:56 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:but but but.....what if a meteorite punches a hole in it or a dead
------------------------------------------------------- “Why
not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward here,†the
official said. “So the first question is, does it pose a
threat, a physical kinetic threat, to individuals in the United
States in the US homeland? Our assessment is it does not. Does it
pose a threat to civilian aviation? Our assessment is it does
not. Does it pose a significantly enhanced threat on the
intelligence side? Our best assessment right now is that it does
not. So given that profile, we assess the risk of downing it,
even if the probability is low in a sparsely populated area of
the debris falling and hurting someone or damaging property, that
it wasn’t worth it.â€
--------------------------------------------------------
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/politics/us-tracking-china-spy-balloon/index.html
Starlink satellite falls on it or a megaMAGA white supremacist
redneck cracker shoots holes in it with his bumpstocked AR-15
assault rifle when it's over NYC and the 3 buses fall on some
liberals? How're they going to explain not shooting it down over
Montana where even if it falls on somebody, the few people who're
there don't matter much. The calculus of this decision is
literally outrageous and everything should be on the table and
somebody should be held accountable at the end of the day going
forward.
Tattoo II
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
lol Or maybe this is no big deal and we should treat it like it'sThey did do something, though - Blinky canceled his trip to China. I
no big deal. Sometimes, doing nuthin' is the best thing you can do.
allege that I don't think I know if that's a good or bad response.
Even it is super high tech spy equipment we're certainly not shy
about sending our spy equipment over other countries.
TB
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:24:56 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:but but but.....what if a meteorite punches a hole in it or a dead
------------------------------------------------------- “Why
not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward here,†the
official said. “So the first question is, does it pose a
threat, a physical kinetic threat, to individuals in the United
States in the US homeland? Our assessment is it does not. Does it
pose a threat to civilian aviation? Our assessment is it does
not. Does it pose a significantly enhanced threat on the
intelligence side? Our best assessment right now is that it does
not. So given that profile, we assess the risk of downing it,
even if the probability is low in a sparsely populated area of
the debris falling and hurting someone or damaging property, that
it wasn’t worth it.â€
--------------------------------------------------------
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/politics/us-tracking-china-spy-balloon/index.html
Starlink satellite falls on it or a megaMAGA white supremacist
redneck cracker shoots holes in it with his bumpstocked AR-15
assault rifle when it's over NYC and the 3 buses fall on some
liberals? How're they going to explain not shooting it down over
Montana where even if it falls on somebody, the few people who're
there don't matter much. The calculus of this decision is
literally outrageous and everything should be on the table and
somebody should be held accountable at the end of the day going
forward.
Tattoo II
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
lol Or maybe this is no big deal and we should treat it like it's
no big deal. Sometimes, doing nuthin' is the best thing you can do.
Even it is super high tech spy equipment we're certainly not shy
about sending our spy equipment over other countries.
TB
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:24:22 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:but but but.....what if a meteorite punches a hole in it or a dead
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:24:56 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
“Why not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward
here,†the official said. “So the first question >>>> is, does it pose a threat, a physical kinetic threat, to
individuals in the United States in the US homeland? Our
assessment is it does not. Does it pose a threat to civilian
aviation? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a
significantly enhanced threat on the intelligence side? Our
best assessment right now is that it does not. So given that
profile, we assess the risk of downing it, even if the
probability is low in a sparsely populated area of the debris
falling and hurting someone or damaging property, that it
wasn’t worth it.â€
--------------------------------------------------------
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/politics/us-tracking-china-spy-balloon/index.html
They did do something, though - Blinky canceled his trip toStarlink satellite falls on it or a megaMAGA white
supremacist redneck cracker shoots holes in it with his
bumpstocked AR-15 assault rifle when it's over NYC and the 3
buses fall on some liberals? How're they going to explain not
shooting it down over Montana where even if it falls on
somebody, the few people who're there don't matter much. The
calculus of this decision is literally outrageous and
everything should be on the table and somebody should be held
accountable at the end of the day going forward.
Tattoo II
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
lol Or maybe this is no big deal and we should treat it like
it's no big deal. Sometimes, doing nuthin' is the best thing
you can do.
China. I allege that I don't think I know if that's a good or bad
response.
Even it is super high tech spy equipment we're certainly not-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
shy about sending our spy equipment over other countries.
TB
It sort of reminds me of the Trojan Horse.... What's the elevation
of the balloon? If it's less than about 20,000 ft, it ought to be
popped, just so we can see what's inside it.... Hope that popping
it, doesn't let a bunch of the latest Covid bacteria loose!
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:21:45 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:but but but.....what if a meteorite punches a hole in it or a dead
film...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:24:22 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:24:56 AM UTC-8, bfh
wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
“Why not shoot it down? We have to do the
risk-reward here,†the official said.
“So the first question is, does it pose a
threat, a physical kinetic threat, to individuals in the
United States in the US homeland? Our assessment is it
does not. Does it pose a threat to civilian aviation? Our
assessment is it does not. Does it pose a significantly
enhanced threat on the intelligence side? Our best
assessment right now is that it does not. So given that
profile, we assess the risk of downing it, even if the
probability is low in a sparsely populated area of the
debris falling and hurting someone or damaging property,
that it wasn’t worth it.â€
--------------------------------------------------------
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/politics/us-tracking-china-spy-balloon/index.html
Last I heard, it was at about 60,000 ft. -- bill Theory don'tThey did do something, though - Blinky canceled his trip toStarlink satellite falls on it or a megaMAGA white
supremacist redneck cracker shoots holes in it with his
bumpstocked AR-15 assault rifle when it's over NYC and
the 3 buses fall on some liberals? How're they going to
explain not shooting it down over Montana where even if
it falls on somebody, the few people who're there don't
matter much. The calculus of this decision is literally
outrageous and everything should be on the table and
somebody should be held accountable at the end of the day
going forward.
Tattoo II
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
lol Or maybe this is no big deal and we should treat it
like it's no big deal. Sometimes, doing nuthin' is the best
thing you can do.
China. I allege that I don't think I know if that's a good or
bad response.
Even it is super high tech spy equipment we're certainly-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
not shy about sending our spy equipment over other
countries.
TB
It sort of reminds me of the Trojan Horse.... What's the
elevation of the balloon? If it's less than about 20,000 ft, it
ought to be popped, just so we can see what's inside it....
Hope that popping it, doesn't let a bunch of the latest Covid
bacteria loose!
mean squat if it don't work.
Sounds like they're trying to accurately map global wind currents,
probably to determine just how well their Covid Cooties will spread
out trough the sky upon release? I've heard those Chinese are
sneaky scudders....
Dr. Fu Man Chu Jr.
film...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:24:22 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:but but but.....what if a meteorite punches a hole in it or a dead
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:24:56 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
“Why not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward >>>> here,†the official said. “So the first question
is, does it pose a threat, a physical kinetic threat, to
individuals in the United States in the US homeland? Our
assessment is it does not. Does it pose a threat to civilian
aviation? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a
significantly enhanced threat on the intelligence side? Our
best assessment right now is that it does not. So given that
profile, we assess the risk of downing it, even if the
probability is low in a sparsely populated area of the debris
falling and hurting someone or damaging property, that it
wasn’t worth it.â€
--------------------------------------------------------
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/politics/us-tracking-china-spy-balloon/index.html
They did do something, though - Blinky canceled his trip toStarlink satellite falls on it or a megaMAGA white
supremacist redneck cracker shoots holes in it with his
bumpstocked AR-15 assault rifle when it's over NYC and the 3
buses fall on some liberals? How're they going to explain not
shooting it down over Montana where even if it falls on
somebody, the few people who're there don't matter much. The
calculus of this decision is literally outrageous and
everything should be on the table and somebody should be held
accountable at the end of the day going forward.
Tattoo II
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
lol Or maybe this is no big deal and we should treat it like
it's no big deal. Sometimes, doing nuthin' is the best thing
you can do.
China. I allege that I don't think I know if that's a good or bad
response.
Even it is super high tech spy equipment we're certainly not-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
shy about sending our spy equipment over other countries.
TB
It sort of reminds me of the Trojan Horse.... What's the elevationLast I heard, it was at about 60,000 ft.
of the balloon? If it's less than about 20,000 ft, it ought to be
popped, just so we can see what's inside it.... Hope that popping
it, doesn't let a bunch of the latest Covid bacteria loose!
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
-------------------------------------------------------
“Why not shoot it down?
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:24:56 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- “Why
not shoot it down?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_instrument
"The law of the instrument, law of the hammer,[1] Maslow's hammer
(or gavel), or golden hammer[a] is a cognitive bias that involves
an over-reliance on a familiar tool. Abraham Maslow wrote in 1966,
"If the only tool you have is a hammer, it is tempting to treat
everything as if it were a nail."[2]
The concept is attributed both to Maslow[3] and to Abraham
Kaplan,[4][5] although the hammer and nail line may not be original
to either of them.
History The English expression "a Birmingham screwdriver", meaning
a hammer, refers to the practice of using the one tool for all
purposes, and predates both Kaplan and Maslow by at least a
century.[6]
In 1868, a London periodical, Once a Week, contained this
observation: "Give a boy a hammer and chisel; show him how to use
them; at once he begins to hack the doorposts, to take off the
corners of shutter and window frames, until you teach him a better
use for them, and how to keep his activity within bounds."[7]"
[snip]
In this country guns are a one size fits all solution to many
problems. Hey, if you don't like it, why not shoot it up? We see
the results of this sort of thinking in our headlines every day.
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:24:56 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- “Why >>> not shoot it down?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_instrument
"The law of the instrument, law of the hammer,[1] Maslow's hammer
(or gavel), or golden hammer[a] is a cognitive bias that involves
an over-reliance on a familiar tool. Abraham Maslow wrote in 1966,
"If the only tool you have is a hammer, it is tempting to treat
everything as if it were a nail."[2]
The concept is attributed both to Maslow[3] and to Abraham
Kaplan,[4][5] although the hammer and nail line may not be original
to either of them.
History The English expression "a Birmingham screwdriver", meaning
a hammer, refers to the practice of using the one tool for all
purposes, and predates both Kaplan and Maslow by at least a
century.[6]
In 1868, a London periodical, Once a Week, contained this
observation: "Give a boy a hammer and chisel; show him how to use
them; at once he begins to hack the doorposts, to take off the
corners of shutter and window frames, until you teach him a better
use for them, and how to keep his activity within bounds."[7]" [snip]
In this country guns are a one size fits all solution to many
problems. Hey, if you don't like it, why not shoot it up? We see
the results of this sort of thinking in our headlines every day.
Even Biden wanted to shoot it down - until the guys with the guns
talked him out of it.
But he's "gonna take care of it". ----------------------------------------------------------
A source familiar with the situation told CBS News that, when briefed
on Wednesday, Mr. Biden had initially wanted to shoot down the
balloon. But as he sought military options from Defense Secretary
Lloyd Austin, Milley and others, they advised against such action
because of the risk to people on the ground.
...
On Saturday morning, when Biden was asked about the balloon, he told reporters "we're gonna take care of it." ---------------------------------------------------------- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chinese-spy-balloon-montana-flight-tracking/
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:24:56 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:tempting to treat everything as if it were a nail."[2]
-------------------------------------------------------
“Why not shoot it down?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_instrument
"The law of the instrument, law of the hammer,[1] Maslow's hammer (or gavel), or golden hammer[a] is a cognitive bias that involves an over-reliance on a familiar tool. Abraham Maslow wrote in 1966, "If the only tool you have is a hammer, it is
The concept is attributed both to Maslow[3] and to Abraham Kaplan,[4][5] although the hammer and nail line may not be original to either of them.better use for them, and how to keep his activity within bounds."[7]"
History
The English expression "a Birmingham screwdriver", meaning a hammer, refers to the practice of using the one tool for all purposes, and predates both Kaplan and Maslow by at least a century.[6]
In 1868, a London periodical, Once a Week, contained this observation: "Give a boy a hammer and chisel; show him how to use them; at once he begins to hack the doorposts, to take off the corners of shutter and window frames, until you teach him a
[snip]
In this country guns are a one size fits all solution to many problems. Hey, if you don't like it, why not shoot it up? We see the results of this sort of thinking in our headlines every day.
TB
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:24:56 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- “Why
not shoot it down?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_instrument
"The law of the instrument, law of the hammer,[1] Maslow's hammer
(or gavel), or golden hammer[a] is a cognitive bias that involves
an over-reliance on a familiar tool. Abraham Maslow wrote in 1966,
"If the only tool you have is a hammer, it is tempting to treat
everything as if it were a nail."[2]
The concept is attributed both to Maslow[3] and to Abraham
Kaplan,[4][5] although the hammer and nail line may not be original
to either of them.
History The English expression "a Birmingham screwdriver", meaning
a hammer, refers to the practice of using the one tool for all
purposes, and predates both Kaplan and Maslow by at least a
century.[6]
In 1868, a London periodical, Once a Week, contained this
observation: "Give a boy a hammer and chisel; show him how to use
them; at once he begins to hack the doorposts, to take off the
corners of shutter and window frames, until you teach him a better
use for them, and how to keep his activity within bounds."[7]" [snip]
In this country guns are a one size fits all solution to many
problems. Hey, if you don't like it, why not shoot it up? We see
the results of this sort of thinking in our headlines every day.
Even Biden wanted to shoot it down - until the guys with the guns talked
him out of it.
But he's "gonna take care of it". ----------------------------------------------------------
A source familiar with the situation told CBS News that, when briefed on Wednesday, Mr. Biden had initially wanted to shoot down the balloon. But
as he sought military options from Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin,
Milley and others, they advised against such action because of the risk
to people on the ground.
...
On Saturday morning, when Biden was asked about the balloon, he told reporters "we're gonna take care of it." ---------------------------------------------------------- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chinese-spy-balloon-montana-flight-tracking/
bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:24:56 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
“Why
not shoot it down?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_instrument
"The law of the instrument, law of the hammer,[1] Maslow's hammer
(or gavel), or golden hammer[a] is a cognitive bias that involves
an over-reliance on a familiar tool. Abraham Maslow wrote in 1966,
"If the only tool you have is a hammer, it is tempting to treat
everything as if it were a nail."[2]
The concept is attributed both to Maslow[3] and to Abraham
Kaplan,[4][5] although the hammer and nail line may not be original
to either of them.
History The English expression "a Birmingham screwdriver", meaning
a hammer, refers to the practice of using the one tool for all
purposes, and predates both Kaplan and Maslow by at least a
century.[6]
In 1868, a London periodical, Once a Week, contained this
observation: "Give a boy a hammer and chisel; show him how to use
them; at once he begins to hack the doorposts, to take off the
corners of shutter and window frames, until you teach him a better
use for them, and how to keep his activity within bounds."[7]" [snip]
In this country guns are a one size fits all solution to many
problems. Hey, if you don't like it, why not shoot it up? We see
the results of this sort of thinking in our headlines every day.
Even Biden wanted to shoot it down - until the guys with the guns
talked him out of it.
But he's "gonna take care of it".
----------------------------------------------------------
A source familiar with the situation told CBS News that, when
briefed on Wednesday, Mr. Biden had initially wanted to shoot down
the balloon. But as he sought military options from Defense
Secretary Lloyd Austin, Milley and others, they advised against such
action because of the risk to people on the ground.
...
On Saturday morning, when Biden was asked about the balloon, he told
reporters "we're gonna take care of it."
----------------------------------------------------------
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chinese-spy-balloon-montana-flight-tracking/ >>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsQaM3i885A
Well, that takes care of it. Called it a nail and threw a hammer at it.
Hope that popping it, doesn't let a bunch of the latest Covid bacteria loose!
bfh wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------Well they must have heard you, otherwise why would they shoot it down?
“Why not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward here,” the
official said. “So the first question is, does it pose a threat, a
physical kinetic threat, to individuals in the United States in the US
homeland? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a threat to
civilian aviation? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a
significantly enhanced threat on the intelligence side? Our best
assessment right now is that it does not. So given that profile, we
assess the risk of downing it, even if the probability is low in a
sparsely populated area of the debris falling and hurting someone or
damaging property, that it wasn’t worth it.”
--------------------------------------------------------
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/politics/us-tracking-china-spy-balloon/index.html
but but but.....what if a meteorite punches a hole in it or a dead
Starlink satellite falls on it or a megaMAGA white supremacist redneck
cracker shoots holes in it with his bumpstocked AR-15 assault rifle
when it's over NYC and the 3 buses fall on some liberals? How're they
going to explain not shooting it down over Montana where even if it
falls on somebody, the few people who're there don't matter much. The
calculus of this decision is literally outrageous and everything
should be on the table and somebody should be held accountable at the
end of the day going forward.
Tattoo II
Geez just think if this would have been on Trumps watch.
-------------------------------------------------------
“Why not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward here,” the
official said. “So the first question is, does it pose a threat, a
physical kinetic threat, to individuals in the United States in the US homeland? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a threat to
civilian aviation? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a significantly enhanced threat on the intelligence side? Our best
assessment right now is that it does not. So given that profile, we
assess the risk of downing it, even if the probability is low in a
sparsely populated area of the debris falling and hurting someone or
damaging property, that it wasn’t worth it.” -------------------------------------------------------- https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/politics/us-tracking-china-spy-balloon/index.html
but but but.....what if a meteorite punches a hole in it or a dead
Starlink satellite falls on it or a megaMAGA white supremacist redneck cracker shoots holes in it with his bumpstocked AR-15 assault rifle when
it's over NYC and the 3 buses fall on some liberals? How're they going
to explain not shooting it down over Montana where even if it falls on somebody, the few people who're there don't matter much. The calculus of
this decision is literally outrageous and everything should be on the
table and somebody should be held accountable at the end of the day
going forward.
Tattoo II
bfh wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
“Why not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward here,” the official said. “So the first question is, does it pose a threat, a physical kinetic threat, to individuals in the United States in the US homeland? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a threat to
civilian aviation? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a significantly enhanced threat on the intelligence side? Our best assessment right now is that it does not. So given that profile, we
assess the risk of downing it, even if the probability is low in a sparsely populated area of the debris falling and hurting someone or damaging property, that it wasn’t worth it.” -------------------------------------------------------- https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/politics/us-tracking-china-spy-balloon/index.html
but but but.....what if a meteorite punches a hole in it or a dead Starlink satellite falls on it or a megaMAGA white supremacist redneck cracker shoots holes in it with his bumpstocked AR-15 assault rifle when it's over NYC and the 3 buses fall on some liberals? How're they going
to explain not shooting it down over Montana where even if it falls on somebody, the few people who're there don't matter much. The calculus of this decision is literally outrageous and everything should be on the table and somebody should be held accountable at the end of the day
going forward.
Tattoo II
Well they must have heard you, otherwise why would they shoot it down?
Geez just think if this would have been on Trumps watch.
--
Frank Howell
bfh wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
“Why not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward here,” the official said. “So the first question is, does it pose a threat, a physical kinetic threat, to individuals in the United States in the US homeland? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a threat to
civilian aviation? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a significantly enhanced threat on the intelligence side? Our best assessment right now is that it does not. So given that profile, we
assess the risk of downing it, even if the probability is low in a sparsely populated area of the debris falling and hurting someone or damaging property, that it wasn’t worth it.” -------------------------------------------------------- https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/politics/us-tracking-china-spy-balloon/index.html
but but but.....what if a meteorite punches a hole in it or a dead Starlink satellite falls on it or a megaMAGA white supremacist redneck cracker shoots holes in it with his bumpstocked AR-15 assault rifle when it's over NYC and the 3 buses fall on some liberals? How're they going
to explain not shooting it down over Montana where even if it falls on somebody, the few people who're there don't matter much. The calculus of this decision is literally outrageous and everything should be on the table and somebody should be held accountable at the end of the day
going forward.
Tattoo II
Well they must have heard you, otherwise why would they shoot it down?
Geez just think if this would have been on Trumps watch.
--
Frank Howell
On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 5:53:56 PM UTC-8, Frank Howell wrote:
bfh wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
“Why not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward here,” the official said. “So the first question is, does it pose a threat, a physical kinetic threat, to individuals in the United States in the US homeland? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a threat to civilian aviation? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a significantly enhanced threat on the intelligence side? Our best assessment right now is that it does not. So given that profile, we assess the risk of downing it, even if the probability is low in a sparsely populated area of the debris falling and hurting someone or damaging property, that it wasn’t worth it.” -------------------------------------------------------- https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/politics/us-tracking-china-spy-balloon/index.html
but but but.....what if a meteorite punches a hole in it or a dead Starlink satellite falls on it or a megaMAGA white supremacist redneck cracker shoots holes in it with his bumpstocked AR-15 assault rifle when it's over NYC and the 3 buses fall on some liberals? How're they going to explain not shooting it down over Montana where even if it falls on somebody, the few people who're there don't matter much. The calculus of this decision is literally outrageous and everything should be on the table and somebody should be held accountable at the end of the day going forward.
Tattoo II
Well they must have heard you, otherwise why would they shoot it down? Geez just think if this would have been on Trumps watch.
--<snerk> lol, Yeah, just think.
Frank Howell
"Republicans are blaming Biden for letting a suspected Chinese spy balloon cross into the US. It happened 3 times during the Trump administration, officials say."
https://www.businessinsider.com/conservatives-blame-biden-chinese-spy-balloon-crossed-into-us-trump-2023-2
TB
Technobarbarian wrote:Where are the hysterical witnesses and blurry photos of those alleged
On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 5:53:56 PM UTC-8, Frank Howell wrote:Ya but according to Trump it never happened. Surprise!
bfh wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------Well they must have heard you, otherwise why would they shoot it down?
“Why not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward here,†the
official said. “So the first question is, does it pose a threat, a >>>> physical kinetic threat, to individuals in the United States in
the US
homeland? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a threat to
civilian aviation? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a
significantly enhanced threat on the intelligence side? Our best
assessment right now is that it does not. So given that profile, we
assess the risk of downing it, even if the probability is low in a
sparsely populated area of the debris falling and hurting someone or
damaging property, that it wasn’t worth it.â€
--------------------------------------------------------
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/politics/us-tracking-china-spy-balloon/index.html
but but but.....what if a meteorite punches a hole in it or a dead
Starlink satellite falls on it or a megaMAGA white supremacist
redneck
cracker shoots holes in it with his bumpstocked AR-15 assault
rifle when
it's over NYC and the 3 buses fall on some liberals? How're they
going
to explain not shooting it down over Montana where even if it
falls on
somebody, the few people who're there don't matter much. The
calculus of
this decision is literally outrageous and everything should be on the
table and somebody should be held accountable at the end of the day
going forward.
Tattoo II
Geez just think if this would have been on Trumps watch.
--
Frank Howell
<snerk> lol, Yeah, just think.
"Republicans are blaming Biden for letting a suspected Chinese spy
balloon cross into the US. It happened 3 times during the Trump
administration, officials say."
https://www.businessinsider.com/conservatives-blame-biden-chinese-spy-balloon-crossed-into-us-trump-2023-2
TB
On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 5:53:56 PM UTC-8, Frank Howell wrote:
bfh wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------Well they must have heard you, otherwise why would they shoot it down?
“Why not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward here,” the
official said. “So the first question is, does it pose a threat, a
physical kinetic threat, to individuals in the United States in the US
homeland? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a threat to
civilian aviation? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a
significantly enhanced threat on the intelligence side? Our best
assessment right now is that it does not. So given that profile, we
assess the risk of downing it, even if the probability is low in a
sparsely populated area of the debris falling and hurting someone or
damaging property, that it wasn’t worth it.”
--------------------------------------------------------
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/politics/us-tracking-china-spy-balloon/index.html
but but but.....what if a meteorite punches a hole in it or a dead
Starlink satellite falls on it or a megaMAGA white supremacist redneck
cracker shoots holes in it with his bumpstocked AR-15 assault rifle when >>> it's over NYC and the 3 buses fall on some liberals? How're they going
to explain not shooting it down over Montana where even if it falls on
somebody, the few people who're there don't matter much. The calculus of >>> this decision is literally outrageous and everything should be on the
table and somebody should be held accountable at the end of the day
going forward.
Tattoo II
Geez just think if this would have been on Trumps watch.
--
Frank Howell
<snerk> lol, Yeah, just think.
"Republicans are blaming Biden for letting a suspected Chinese spy balloon cross into the US. It happened 3 times during the Trump administration, officials say."
https://www.businessinsider.com/conservatives-blame-biden-chinese-spy-balloon-crossed-into-us-trump-2023-2
TB
Frank Howell wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:Where are the hysterical witnesses and blurry photos of those alleged
On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 5:53:56 PM UTC-8, Frank Howell wrote:Ya but according to Trump it never happened. Surprise!
bfh wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------Well they must have heard you, otherwise why would they shoot it down? >>>> Geez just think if this would have been on Trumps watch.
“Why not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward here,†the
official said. “So the first question is, does it pose a threat, a >>>>> physical kinetic threat, to individuals in the United States in
the US
homeland? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a threat to
civilian aviation? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a
significantly enhanced threat on the intelligence side? Our best
assessment right now is that it does not. So given that profile, we
assess the risk of downing it, even if the probability is low in a
sparsely populated area of the debris falling and hurting someone or >>>>> damaging property, that it wasn’t worth it.â€
--------------------------------------------------------
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/politics/us-tracking-china-spy-balloon/index.html
but but but.....what if a meteorite punches a hole in it or a dead
Starlink satellite falls on it or a megaMAGA white supremacist
redneck
cracker shoots holes in it with his bumpstocked AR-15 assault
rifle when
it's over NYC and the 3 buses fall on some liberals? How're they
going
to explain not shooting it down over Montana where even if it
falls on
somebody, the few people who're there don't matter much. The
calculus of
this decision is literally outrageous and everything should be on the >>>>> table and somebody should be held accountable at the end of the day
going forward.
Tattoo II
--
Frank Howell
<snerk> lol, Yeah, just think.
"Republicans are blaming Biden for letting a suspected Chinese spy
balloon cross into the US. It happened 3 times during the Trump
administration, officials say."
https://www.businessinsider.com/conservatives-blame-biden-chinese-spy-balloon-crossed-into-us-trump-2023-2
TB
events?
Frank Howell wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:Where are the hysterical witnesses and blurry photos of those alleged
On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 5:53:56 PM UTC-8, Frank Howell wrote:Ya but according to Trump it never happened. Surprise!
bfh wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------Well they must have heard you, otherwise why would they shoot it down? >>>> Geez just think if this would have been on Trumps watch.
“Why not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward here,†the
official said. “So the first question is, does it pose a threat, a >>>>> physical kinetic threat, to individuals in the United States in the US >>>>> homeland? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a threat to
civilian aviation? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a
significantly enhanced threat on the intelligence side? Our best
assessment right now is that it does not. So given that profile, we
assess the risk of downing it, even if the probability is low in a
sparsely populated area of the debris falling and hurting someone or >>>>> damaging property, that it wasn’t worth it.â€
--------------------------------------------------------
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/politics/us-tracking-china-spy-balloon/index.html
but but but.....what if a meteorite punches a hole in it or a dead
Starlink satellite falls on it or a megaMAGA white supremacist redneck >>>>> cracker shoots holes in it with his bumpstocked AR-15 assault rifle
when
it's over NYC and the 3 buses fall on some liberals? How're they going >>>>> to explain not shooting it down over Montana where even if it falls on >>>>> somebody, the few people who're there don't matter much. The
calculus of
this decision is literally outrageous and everything should be on the >>>>> table and somebody should be held accountable at the end of the day
going forward.
Tattoo II
--
Frank Howell
<snerk> lol, Yeah, just think.
"Republicans are blaming Biden for letting a suspected Chinese spy
balloon cross into the US. It happened 3 times during the Trump
administration, officials say."
https://www.businessinsider.com/conservatives-blame-biden-chinese-spy-balloon-crossed-into-us-trump-2023-2
TB
events?
On 2/5/2023 2:14 PM, bfh wrote:
Frank Howell wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:Where are the hysterical witnesses and blurry photos of those
On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 5:53:56 PM UTC-8, Frank HowellYa but according to Trump it never happened. Surprise!
wrote:
bfh wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------Well they must have heard you, otherwise why would they shoot it
“Why not shoot it down? We have to do the risk-reward >>>>>> here,†the
official said. “So the first question is, does it pose a >>>>>> threat, a
physical kinetic threat, to individuals in the United States in
the US
homeland? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a threat to
civilian aviation? Our assessment is it does not. Does it pose a
significantly enhanced threat on the intelligence side? Our best
assessment right now is that it does not. So given that profile, we >>>>>> assess the risk of downing it, even if the probability is low in a >>>>>> sparsely populated area of the debris falling and hurting
someone or
damaging property, that it wasn’t worth it.â€Â
--------------------------------------------------------
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/02/politics/us-tracking-china-spy-balloon/index.html
but but but.....what if a meteorite punches a hole in it or a dead >>>>>> Starlink satellite falls on it or a megaMAGA white supremacist
redneck
cracker shoots holes in it with his bumpstocked AR-15 assault
rifle when
it's over NYC and the 3 buses fall on some liberals? How're they
going
to explain not shooting it down over Montana where even if it
falls on
somebody, the few people who're there don't matter much. The
calculus of
this decision is literally outrageous and everything should be
on the
table and somebody should be held accountable at the end of the day >>>>>> going forward.
Tattoo II
down?
Geez just think if this would have been on Trumps watch.
--
Frank Howell
       <snerk> lol, Yeah, just think.
"Republicans are blaming Biden for letting a suspected Chinese spy
balloon cross into the US. It happened 3 times during the Trump
administration, officials say."
https://www.businessinsider.com/conservatives-blame-biden-chinese-spy-balloon-crossed-into-us-trump-2023-2
TB
alleged events?
You can hear them faintly in the distance chanting, hang mike pence...
"Republicans are blaming Biden for letting a suspected Chinese spy balloon cross into the US. It happened 3 timesduring the Trump administration, officials say."
Ya but according to Trump it never happened. Surprise!
https://www.businessinsider.com/conservatives-blame-biden-chinese-spy-balloon-crossed-into-us-trump-2023-2
In article <AyVDL.608633$iS99.86717@fx16.iad>,
Frank Howell <fphowell@usermail.com> wrote:
"Republicans are blaming Biden for letting a suspected Chinese spy balloon cross into the US. It happened 3 timesduring the Trump administration, officials say."
Ya but according to Trump it never happened. Surprise!
https://www.businessinsider.com/conservatives-blame-biden-chinese-spy-balloon-crossed-into-us-trump-2023-2
Not just Trump. Everyone who was part of the Trump administration
says it didn't happen; Mike Pompeo, etc.
Pompeo said if it did happen, the military declined to inform the
the administration, which, if true, is a huge issue that ought to
be a major concern to everyone, across the political spectrum..
Seriously... People saw this thing with their own eyes across
the US. Does anyone believer that if any such thing had happened
during the Trump administration, it would not have been made
a big huge hairy deal of? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
On 2/6/2023 4:06 PM, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
In article <AyVDL.608633$iS99.86717@fx16.iad>,
Frank Howell <fphowell@usermail.com> wrote:
"Republicans are blaming Biden for letting a suspected Chinese spyduring the Trump administration, officials say."
balloon cross into the US. It happened 3 times
Ya but according to Trump it never happened. Surprise!
https://www.businessinsider.com/conservatives-blame-biden-chinese-spy-balloon-crossed-into-us-trump-2023-2
Not just Trump. Everyone who was part of the Trump administration
says it didn't happen; Mike Pompeo, etc.
Pompeo said if it did happen, the military declined to inform the
the administration, which, if true, is a huge issue that ought to
be a major concern to everyone, across the political spectrum..
Seriously... People saw this thing with their own eyes across
the US. Does anyone believer that if any such thing had happened
during the Trump administration, it would not have been made
a big huge hairy deal of? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
If covid had happened during the previous administration does anyone
believe it would not have been made a huge hairy deal of? Oh, wait...
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