and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism into it. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:--
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism into
it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example of a
Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone who
isn't just like him and says so frequently. He hides his racial
prejudices under a thin layer of politics. Black cops are just as
human as anyone else and can be just as racist as anyone else.
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:--
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism into
it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example of aIn this time of redefinitioning, I suppose they can. What is your
Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone who
isn't just like him and says so frequently. He hides his racial
prejudices under a thin layer of politics. Black cops are just as
human as anyone else and can be just as racist as anyone else.
definition of race?
If a fat Black person is prejudiced against a skinny Black person, is
it racism?
If a white Navy pilot is prejudiced against a white Air Force pilot,
is it racism?
If an Asian homeowner is prejudiced against a homeless Asian, is it
racism?
If a Black firefighter is prejudiced against a Black cop, is it racism?
At the end of the day going forward, myownself alleges that if the
prejudice is not about race, then it's some prejudice other than
racism. But hey. I've been buried in unfettered redefinitioning
before, and probably will be again in the passage of time, because the passage of time is significant.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:--
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism
into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
In this time of redefinitioning, I suppose they can. What isbill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example
of a Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone
who isn't just like him and says so frequently. He hides his
racial prejudices under a thin layer of politics. Black cops
are just as human as anyone else and can be just as racist as
anyone else.
your definition of race?
If a fat Black person is prejudiced against a skinny Black
person, is it racism?
If a white Navy pilot is prejudiced against a white Air Force
pilot, is it racism?
If an Asian homeowner is prejudiced against a homeless Asian, is
it racism?
If a Black firefighter is prejudiced against a Black cop, is it
racism?
At the end of the day going forward, myownself alleges that if
the prejudice is not about race, then it's some prejudice other
than racism. But hey. I've been buried in unfettered
redefinitioning before, and probably will be again in the passage
of time, because the passage of time is significant. -- bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Life isn't as defined, nor, neat & tidy, as your alleges are....
FYI, Cops are a race unto themselves, where civilians are mostly
considered "assholes", if they don't kowtow & kiss ass, to the
Police... The editorial just implied, that historically, Black
cops got their prejudice against Black civilians, from White
cops.... That's what I got from your puzzlement.... I'm sure
many had the same "WTF?" moment as you, over the term racism used
for LEOs of color.... I thought it was a stretch myownself....
Officer Krumpkee Jr.
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:--
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism
into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
In this time of redefinitioning, I suppose they can. What isbill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example
of a Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone
who isn't just like him and says so frequently. He hides his
racial prejudices under a thin layer of politics. Black cops
are just as human as anyone else and can be just as racist as
anyone else.
your definition of race?
If a fat Black person is prejudiced against a skinny Black
person, is it racism?
If a white Navy pilot is prejudiced against a white Air Force
pilot, is it racism?
If an Asian homeowner is prejudiced against a homeless Asian, is
it racism?
If a Black firefighter is prejudiced against a Black cop, is it
racism?
At the end of the day going forward, myownself alleges that if
the prejudice is not about race, then it's some prejudice other
than racism. But hey. I've been buried in unfettered
redefinitioning before, and probably will be again in the passage
of time, because the passage of time is significant. -- bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Once again. I am not going to play word games with you. You're the
sort of cracker who can call people "towel heads" and tell me
you're not a racist in the next sentence. For you it all hinges on definitions. I use words in their ordinary meaning. If you want to
argue about definitions you'll have to do it with someone else.
Part of the baggage that comes along with a Black skin is our
racist past. Just like the rest of the country our law enforcement
agencies have an explicitly racist past. We have gotten into a self-perpetuating cycle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_brutality_in_the_United_States
I am extremely White. As a child I was taught to trust the police
and look for them if I had a serious problem. When I'm stopped I
concentrate on relaxing and passing the attitude test.
If I was Black I was given probably given a different message by
parents and peers who were concerned for my safety. In it's
original meaning to be "woke" meant to be aware of your
surroundings and what's going on around you. Part of that awareness
is knowing that a Black person is much more likely to be killed or
injured by the police than a White person. A Black person is
roughly 3 times more likely to be killed by the police than a White
person. That one statistic tells you that everyone is going to be
more tense when a Black person is stopped no matter what their
racial attitudes are. So I am not surprised when some people have a
fight or flight response. I am also not surprised when our police
officers have no sense of proportion. Five police officers for an
ordinary traffic stop if ridiculous and threatening all by itself.
What's it going to hurt if the offender gets away? They still have
his car. Beating someone to death over a traffic stop is absolutely
insane no matter how you look at it.
TB
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:--
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism into
it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example of aIn this time of redefinitioning, I suppose they can. What is your
Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone who
isn't just like him and says so frequently. He hides his racial
prejudices under a thin layer of politics. Black cops are just as
human as anyone else and can be just as racist as anyone else.
definition of race?
If a fat Black person is prejudiced against a skinny Black person, is
it racism?
If a white Navy pilot is prejudiced against a white Air Force pilot,
is it racism?
If an Asian homeowner is prejudiced against a homeless Asian, is it
racism?
If a Black firefighter is prejudiced against a Black cop, is it racism?
At the end of the day going forward, myownself alleges that if the
prejudice is not about race, then it's some prejudice other than
racism. But hey. I've been buried in unfettered redefinitioning
before, and probably will be again in the passage of time, because the passage of time is significant.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
film...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:--
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism
into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
In this time of redefinitioning, I suppose they can. What isbill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example
of a Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone
who isn't just like him and says so frequently. He hides his
racial prejudices under a thin layer of politics. Black cops
are just as human as anyone else and can be just as racist as
anyone else.
your definition of race?
If a fat Black person is prejudiced against a skinny Black
person, is it racism?
If a white Navy pilot is prejudiced against a white Air Force
pilot, is it racism?
If an Asian homeowner is prejudiced against a homeless Asian, is
it racism?
If a Black firefighter is prejudiced against a Black cop, is it
racism?
At the end of the day going forward, myownself alleges that if
the prejudice is not about race, then it's some prejudice other
than racism. But hey. I've been buried in unfettered
redefinitioning before, and probably will be again in the passage
of time, because the passage of time is significant. -- bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Life isn't as defined, nor, neat & tidy, as your alleges are....
FYI, Cops are a race unto themselves, where civilians are mostly
considered "assholes", if they don't kowtow & kiss ass, to the
Police... The editorial just implied, that historically, Black
cops got their prejudice against Black civilians, from White
cops.... That's what I got from your puzzlement.... I'm sure
many had the same "WTF?" moment as you, over the term racism used
for LEOs of color.... I thought it was a stretch myownself....
Officer Krumpkee Jr.
I'm not puzzled - cops are not a "race", and "assholes" are not a
"race". But I'm willing to try to learn - explain to me how they are a "race".
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 1:03:25 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:--
film...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism
into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
I'm not puzzled - cops are not a "race", and "assholes" are notIn this time of redefinitioning, I suppose they can. What isbill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an
example of a Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced
against anyone who isn't just like him and says so
frequently. He hides his racial prejudices under a thin
layer of politics. Black cops are just as human as anyone
else and can be just as racist as anyone else.
your definition of race?
If a fat Black person is prejudiced against a skinny Black
person, is it racism?
If a white Navy pilot is prejudiced against a white Air
Force pilot, is it racism?
If an Asian homeowner is prejudiced against a homeless Asian,
is it racism?
If a Black firefighter is prejudiced against a Black cop, is
it racism?
At the end of the day going forward, myownself alleges that
if the prejudice is not about race, then it's some prejudice
other than racism. But hey. I've been buried in unfettered
redefinitioning before, and probably will be again in the
passage of time, because the passage of time is significant.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Life isn't as defined, nor, neat & tidy, as your alleges
are.... FYI, Cops are a race unto themselves, where civilians
are mostly considered "assholes", if they don't kowtow & kiss
ass, to the Police... The editorial just implied, that
historically, Black cops got their prejudice against Black
civilians, from White cops.... That's what I got from your
puzzlement.... I'm sure many had the same "WTF?" moment as you,
over the term racism used for LEOs of color.... I thought it
was a stretch myownself....
Officer Krumpkee Jr.
a "race". But I'm willing to try to learn - explain to me how
they are a "race". -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
work.
You might start with the commonly understood definition of racism,
instead of your very narrow definition.
Or maybe not. I'm really
not interested in going there--again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism
film...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:--
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism
into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
In this time of redefinitioning, I suppose they can. What isbill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example
of a Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone
who isn't just like him and says so frequently. He hides his
racial prejudices under a thin layer of politics. Black cops
are just as human as anyone else and can be just as racist as
anyone else.
your definition of race?
If a fat Black person is prejudiced against a skinny Black
person, is it racism?
If a white Navy pilot is prejudiced against a white Air Force
pilot, is it racism?
If an Asian homeowner is prejudiced against a homeless Asian, is
it racism?
If a Black firefighter is prejudiced against a Black cop, is it
racism?
At the end of the day going forward, myownself alleges that if
the prejudice is not about race, then it's some prejudice other
than racism. But hey. I've been buried in unfettered
redefinitioning before, and probably will be again in the passage
of time, because the passage of time is significant. -- bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Life isn't as defined, nor, neat & tidy, as your alleges are....
FYI, Cops are a race unto themselves, where civilians are mostly
considered "assholes", if they don't kowtow & kiss ass, to the
Police... The editorial just implied, that historically, Black
cops got their prejudice against Black civilians, from White
cops.... That's what I got from your puzzlement.... I'm sure
many had the same "WTF?" moment as you, over the term racism used
for LEOs of color.... I thought it was a stretch myownself....
Officer Krumpkee Jr.
I'm not puzzled - cops are not a "race", and "assholes" are not a
"race". But I'm willing to try to learn - explain to me how they are a "race".
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:Black cops got their prejudice against Black civilians, from White cops.... That's what I got from your puzzlement.... I'm sure many had the same "WTF?" moment as you, over the term racism used for LEOs of color.... I thought it was a stretch myownself...
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:--
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism into
it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example of aIn this time of redefinitioning, I suppose they can. What is your definition of race?
Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone who
isn't just like him and says so frequently. He hides his racial prejudices under a thin layer of politics. Black cops are just as
human as anyone else and can be just as racist as anyone else.
If a fat Black person is prejudiced against a skinny Black person, is
it racism?
If a white Navy pilot is prejudiced against a white Air Force pilot,
is it racism?
If an Asian homeowner is prejudiced against a homeless Asian, is it racism?
If a Black firefighter is prejudiced against a Black cop, is it racism?
At the end of the day going forward, myownself alleges that if the prejudice is not about race, then it's some prejudice other thanLife isn't as defined, nor, neat & tidy, as your alleges are.... FYI, Cops are a race unto themselves, where civilians are mostly considered "assholes", if they don't kowtow & kiss ass, to the Police... The editorial just implied, that historically,
racism. But hey. I've been buried in unfettered redefinitioning
before, and probably will be again in the passage of time, because the passage of time is significant.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Officer Krumpkee Jr.
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 1:03:25 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:--
film...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism
into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
I'm not puzzled - cops are not a "race", and "assholes" are notIn this time of redefinitioning, I suppose they can. What isbill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an
example of a Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced
against anyone who isn't just like him and says so
frequently. He hides his racial prejudices under a thin
layer of politics. Black cops are just as human as anyone
else and can be just as racist as anyone else.
your definition of race?
If a fat Black person is prejudiced against a skinny Black
person, is it racism?
If a white Navy pilot is prejudiced against a white Air
Force pilot, is it racism?
If an Asian homeowner is prejudiced against a homeless Asian,
is it racism?
If a Black firefighter is prejudiced against a Black cop, is
it racism?
At the end of the day going forward, myownself alleges that
if the prejudice is not about race, then it's some prejudice
other than racism. But hey. I've been buried in unfettered
redefinitioning before, and probably will be again in the
passage of time, because the passage of time is significant.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Life isn't as defined, nor, neat & tidy, as your alleges
are.... FYI, Cops are a race unto themselves, where civilians
are mostly considered "assholes", if they don't kowtow & kiss
ass, to the Police... The editorial just implied, that
historically, Black cops got their prejudice against Black
civilians, from White cops.... That's what I got from your
puzzlement.... I'm sure many had the same "WTF?" moment as you,
over the term racism used for LEOs of color.... I thought it
was a stretch myownself....
Officer Krumpkee Jr.
a "race". But I'm willing to try to learn - explain to me how
they are a "race". -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
work.
Sez you, wildly waving a dictionary..... Simple, they are viewed
as such by the defining group IOW, the Police.... Why would you
expect logic in a crazy world?
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:28:40 PM UTC-8, film...@gmail.com--
wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism
into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
Life isn't as defined, nor, neat & tidy, as your alleges are....In this time of redefinitioning, I suppose they can. What isbill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example
of a Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced against
anyone who isn't just like him and says so frequently. He
hides his racial prejudices under a thin layer of politics.
Black cops are just as human as anyone else and can be just
as racist as anyone else.
your definition of race?
If a fat Black person is prejudiced against a skinny Black
person, is it racism?
If a white Navy pilot is prejudiced against a white Air Force
pilot, is it racism?
If an Asian homeowner is prejudiced against a homeless Asian,
is it racism?
If a Black firefighter is prejudiced against a Black cop, is it
racism?
At the end of the day going forward, myownself alleges that if
the prejudice is not about race, then it's some prejudice other
than racism. But hey. I've been buried in unfettered
redefinitioning before, and probably will be again in the
passage of time, because the passage of time is significant. --
bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
FYI, Cops are a race unto themselves, where civilians are mostly
considered "assholes", if they don't kowtow & kiss ass, to the
Police... The editorial just implied, that historically, Black
cops got their prejudice against Black civilians, from White
cops.... That's what I got from your puzzlement.... I'm sure many
had the same "WTF?" moment as you, over the term racism used for
LEOs of color.... I thought it was a stretch myownself....
Officer Krumpkee Jr.
The fact that life doesn't really fit into neat pigeonholes is part
of what makes this difficult to discuss. There are usually a lot of
factors that go into these horrific incidents. The us against them
attitude that our police have is obviously part of it. I don't know
why anyone is surprised by Black racism. I've met more than one
Black bigot who announced it proudly. They figured they were better
than the rest.
I thought it was sort of fun, in an annoying way, being a haole in
Hawaii. It didn't help that I was a young White sailor, but haole
was the worst of it as far as those kanaka cops were concerned, and
they didn't mind telling you about it. I swear. I think all of
those guys really were stereotypically big. I don't think those
guys would have killed me. That would have required too much
paperwork. OTOH I don't think they would have minded roughing me up
if that's what the job called for. I thought it was mildly
educational. I got a small sample of how other people live all the
time.
film...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 1:03:25 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:--
film...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism
into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
I'm not puzzled - cops are not a "race", and "assholes" are notIn this time of redefinitioning, I suppose they can. What isbill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an
example of a Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced
against anyone who isn't just like him and says so
frequently. He hides his racial prejudices under a thin
layer of politics. Black cops are just as human as anyone
else and can be just as racist as anyone else.
your definition of race?
If a fat Black person is prejudiced against a skinny Black
person, is it racism?
If a white Navy pilot is prejudiced against a white Air
Force pilot, is it racism?
If an Asian homeowner is prejudiced against a homeless Asian,
is it racism?
If a Black firefighter is prejudiced against a Black cop, is
it racism?
At the end of the day going forward, myownself alleges that
if the prejudice is not about race, then it's some prejudice
other than racism. But hey. I've been buried in unfettered
redefinitioning before, and probably will be again in the
passage of time, because the passage of time is significant.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Life isn't as defined, nor, neat & tidy, as your alleges
are.... FYI, Cops are a race unto themselves, where civilians
are mostly considered "assholes", if they don't kowtow & kiss
ass, to the Police... The editorial just implied, that
historically, Black cops got their prejudice against Black
civilians, from White cops.... That's what I got from your
puzzlement.... I'm sure many had the same "WTF?" moment as you,
over the term racism used for LEOs of color.... I thought it
was a stretch myownself....
Officer Krumpkee Jr.
a "race". But I'm willing to try to learn - explain to me how
they are a "race". -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
work.
Sez you, wildly waving a dictionary..... Simple, they are viewedSurely you jest. It's not the police that are trying to slip race into it.
as such by the defining group IOW, the Police.... Why would you
expect logic in a crazy world?
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:28:51 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:--
film...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 1:03:25 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
film...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh
wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing
racism into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
Surely you jest. It's not the police that are trying to slip raceI'm not puzzled - cops are not a "race", and "assholes" areIn this time of redefinitioning, I suppose they can. Whatbill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an
example of a Black racist on this group. He's
prejudiced against anyone who isn't just like him and
says so frequently. He hides his racial prejudices
under a thin layer of politics. Black cops are just as
human as anyone else and can be just as racist as
anyone else.
is your definition of race?
If a fat Black person is prejudiced against a skinny
Black person, is it racism?
If a white Navy pilot is prejudiced against a white Air
Force pilot, is it racism?
If an Asian homeowner is prejudiced against a homeless
Asian, is it racism?
If a Black firefighter is prejudiced against a Black cop,
is it racism?
At the end of the day going forward, myownself alleges
that if the prejudice is not about race, then it's some
prejudice other than racism. But hey. I've been buried in
unfettered redefinitioning before, and probably will be
again in the passage of time, because the passage of time
is significant. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it
don't work.
Life isn't as defined, nor, neat & tidy, as your alleges
are.... FYI, Cops are a race unto themselves, where
civilians are mostly considered "assholes", if they don't
kowtow & kiss ass, to the Police... The editorial just
implied, that historically, Black cops got their prejudice
against Black civilians, from White cops.... That's what I
got from your puzzlement.... I'm sure many had the same
"WTF?" moment as you, over the term racism used for LEOs of
color.... I thought it was a stretch myownself....
Officer Krumpkee Jr.
not a "race". But I'm willing to try to learn - explain to me
how they are a "race". -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it
don't work.
Sez you, wildly waving a dictionary..... Simple, they are
viewed as such by the defining group IOW, the Police.... Why
would you expect logic in a crazy world?
into it. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Who do you want to blame for implying racism, beyond the actual
writer of the "opinion piece"? Of course, the cops would deny
any racism by themselves, always have, and they always will say,
they hold no prejudices, and they are simply doing their job,
although some members of their race exceeded the community's
expectations.... Sounds like you're accusing the usual "outside
agitators, & instigators", "The Media"? That's a bit
presumptive complaint, over one editorial, don't you think?
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example of a Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone who isn't just like him and says so frequently. He hides his racial prejudices under a
thin layer of politics. Black cops are just as human as anyone else and
can be just as racist as anyone else.
TB
Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example of a
Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone who isn't just like him and says so frequently. He hides his racial prejudices under a thin layer of politics. Black cops are just as human as anyone else and can be just as racist as anyone else.
TB
I suppose you are attempting to put a false label on me so let me tell you again, for the umpteenth time, I am not a racist. I couldn’t care less what
your skin color is or if you come from Venus, Mars or Uranus. I am, however a stupidist, lazyist, criminalist and self-important pompous assist. None
of those things make me or require me to be a racist. Why, I even have
many Americans of European descent as friends. :-) I even used to hire
some “qualified” white individuals.
Therefore, stuff it you stupid, self-important, pompous ass and find some other untruth to blather on about.
--
“If you love me I will always be in your heart. If you hate me I will always be in your mind.” - Donald ‘William Shakespeare’ Trump
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:28:40 PM UTC-8, film...@gmail.com--
wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism
into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
Life isn't as defined, nor, neat & tidy, as your alleges are....In this time of redefinitioning, I suppose they can. What isbill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example
of a Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced against
anyone who isn't just like him and says so frequently. He
hides his racial prejudices under a thin layer of politics.
Black cops are just as human as anyone else and can be just
as racist as anyone else.
your definition of race?
If a fat Black person is prejudiced against a skinny Black
person, is it racism?
If a white Navy pilot is prejudiced against a white Air Force
pilot, is it racism?
If an Asian homeowner is prejudiced against a homeless Asian,
is it racism?
If a Black firefighter is prejudiced against a Black cop, is it
racism?
At the end of the day going forward, myownself alleges that if
the prejudice is not about race, then it's some prejudice other
than racism. But hey. I've been buried in unfettered
redefinitioning before, and probably will be again in the
passage of time, because the passage of time is significant. --
bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
FYI, Cops are a race unto themselves, where civilians are mostly
considered "assholes", if they don't kowtow & kiss ass, to the
Police... The editorial just implied, that historically, Black
cops got their prejudice against Black civilians, from White
cops.... That's what I got from your puzzlement.... I'm sure many
had the same "WTF?" moment as you, over the term racism used for
LEOs of color.... I thought it was a stretch myownself....
Officer Krumpkee Jr.
The fact that life doesn't really fit into neat pigeonholes is part
of what makes this difficult to discuss. There are usually a lot of
factors that go into these horrific incidents. The us against them
attitude that our police have is obviously part of it. I don't know
why anyone is surprised by Black racism. I've met more than one
Black bigot who announced it proudly. They figured they were better
than the rest.
I thought it was sort of fun, in an annoying way, being a haole inMore of your irrelevant bullshabble. Native Hawaiians are a race, and
Hawaii. It didn't help that I was a young White sailor, but haole
was the worst of it as far as those kanaka cops were concerned, and
they didn't mind telling you about it. I swear. I think all of
those guys really were stereotypically big. I don't think those
guys would have killed me. That would have required too much
paperwork. OTOH I don't think they would have minded roughing me up
if that's what the job called for. I thought it was mildly
educational. I got a small sample of how other people live all the
time.
had they roughed up a haole, it could be racist - but if they roughed
up another Native Hawaiian, it couldn't be. Race thumping same race is
not racist.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:49:11 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:--
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:28:40 PM UTC-8,
film...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing
racism into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
More of your irrelevant bullshabble. Native Hawaiians are a race,Life isn't as defined, nor, neat & tidy, as your allegesIn this time of redefinitioning, I suppose they can. Whatbill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an
example of a Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced
against anyone who isn't just like him and says so
frequently. He hides his racial prejudices under a thin
layer of politics. Black cops are just as human as anyone
else and can be just as racist as anyone else.
is your definition of race?
If a fat Black person is prejudiced against a skinny Black
person, is it racism?
If a white Navy pilot is prejudiced against a white Air
Force pilot, is it racism?
If an Asian homeowner is prejudiced against a homeless
Asian, is it racism?
If a Black firefighter is prejudiced against a Black cop,
is it racism?
At the end of the day going forward, myownself alleges that
if the prejudice is not about race, then it's some
prejudice other than racism. But hey. I've been buried in
unfettered redefinitioning before, and probably will be
again in the passage of time, because the passage of time
is significant. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
work.
are.... FYI, Cops are a race unto themselves, where civilians
are mostly considered "assholes", if they don't kowtow & kiss
ass, to the Police... The editorial just implied, that
historically, Black cops got their prejudice against Black
civilians, from White cops.... That's what I got from your
puzzlement.... I'm sure many had the same "WTF?" moment as
you, over the term racism used for LEOs of color.... I
thought it was a stretch myownself....
Officer Krumpkee Jr.
The fact that life doesn't really fit into neat pigeonholes is
part of what makes this difficult to discuss. There are usually
a lot of factors that go into these horrific incidents. The us
against them attitude that our police have is obviously part of
it. I don't know why anyone is surprised by Black racism. I've
met more than one Black bigot who announced it proudly. They
figured they were better than the rest.
I thought it was sort of fun, in an annoying way, being a haole
in Hawaii. It didn't help that I was a young White sailor, but
haole was the worst of it as far as those kanaka cops were
concerned, and they didn't mind telling you about it. I swear.
I think all of those guys really were stereotypically big. I
don't think those guys would have killed me. That would have
required too much paperwork. OTOH I don't think they would have
minded roughing me up if that's what the job called for. I
thought it was mildly educational. I got a small sample of how
other people live all the time.
and had they roughed up a haole, it could be racist - but if they
roughed up another Native Hawaiian, it couldn't be. Race thumping
same race is not racist. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it
don't work.
That statement is ridiculous on the face of it. Prejudice against
you own race still fits the standard definitions of racism. Some
folks internalize the prejudices of the dominant culture,
regardless of the color of their own skin.
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example of a Black >racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone who isn't just like
him and says so frequently. He hides his racial prejudices under a thin
layer of politics. Black cops are just as human as anyone else and can
be just as racist as anyone else.
In article <761d0c0b-050a-45f1-9cfd-0ea04925e949n@googlegroups.com>, Technobarbarian <technobarbarian@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example of a Black
racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone who isn't just like
him and says so frequently. He hides his racial prejudices under a thin
layer of politics. Black cops are just as human as anyone else and can
be just as racist as anyone else.
I think all cops are deeply prejudiced against perps who run,
and fight to resist arrest. I do suspect this was a case of
grossly excessive force, but that's just a suspicion. Get
in a fight with five big guys trained in dealing with the
obstreperous, and things are very likely to not go well
for you, irrespective of any racial issues.
Chris Rock has some very wise words to say on the subject.
https://youtu.be/tYmzbO0cUHo
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:cops are just as human as anyone else and can be just as racist as anyone else.
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example of a Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone who isn't just like him and says so frequently. He hides his racial prejudices under a thin layer of politics. Black
TB
On 1/29/2023 9:32 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example >> of a Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone who
isn't just like him and says so frequently. He hides his racial
prejudices under a thin layer of politics. Black cops are just as
human as anyone else and can be just as racist as anyone else.
TB
Let me see if I can get you on the splain plain... again. I an NOT a
racist. I couldn't care less what color your skin is or if you come from Venus, Mars or Uranus. I am, however, a stupidist, lazyist, criminalist
and self-important pompous assist. None of those makes me or requires
me to be a racist.
So, stuff it you stupid, self-important, pompous ass. Find some other
band wagon to hop on. They one in which you are riding is running out of steam. And please be sure to reply with your childish "LOL" comment
preface.
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:28:51 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:although some members of their race exceeded the community's expectations.... Sounds like you're accusing the usual "outside agitators, & instigators", "The Media"? That's a bit presumptive complaint, over one editorial, don't you think?
film...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 1:03:25 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:--
film...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism
into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
I'm not puzzled - cops are not a "race", and "assholes" are notIn this time of redefinitioning, I suppose they can. What isbill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an
example of a Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced
against anyone who isn't just like him and says so
frequently. He hides his racial prejudices under a thin
layer of politics. Black cops are just as human as anyone
else and can be just as racist as anyone else.
your definition of race?
If a fat Black person is prejudiced against a skinny Black
person, is it racism?
If a white Navy pilot is prejudiced against a white Air
Force pilot, is it racism?
If an Asian homeowner is prejudiced against a homeless Asian,
is it racism?
If a Black firefighter is prejudiced against a Black cop, is
it racism?
At the end of the day going forward, myownself alleges that
if the prejudice is not about race, then it's some prejudice
other than racism. But hey. I've been buried in unfettered
redefinitioning before, and probably will be again in the
passage of time, because the passage of time is significant.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Life isn't as defined, nor, neat & tidy, as your alleges
are.... FYI, Cops are a race unto themselves, where civilians
are mostly considered "assholes", if they don't kowtow & kiss
ass, to the Police... The editorial just implied, that
historically, Black cops got their prejudice against Black
civilians, from White cops.... That's what I got from your
puzzlement.... I'm sure many had the same "WTF?" moment as you,
over the term racism used for LEOs of color.... I thought it
was a stretch myownself....
Officer Krumpkee Jr.
a "race". But I'm willing to try to learn - explain to me how
they are a "race". -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
work.
Who do you want to blame for implying racism, beyond the actual writer of the "opinion piece"? Of course, the cops would deny any racism by themselves, always have, and they always will say, they hold no prejudices, and they are simply doing their job,Sez you, wildly waving a dictionary..... Simple, they are viewedSurely you jest. It's not the police that are trying to slip race into it. --
as such by the defining group IOW, the Police.... Why would you
expect logic in a crazy world?
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Judge Humps
Mike Van Pelt wrote:
In article <761d0c0b-050a-45f1...@googlegroups.com>,
Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example of a Black >> racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone who isn't just like >> him and says so frequently. He hides his racial prejudices under a thin >> layer of politics. Black cops are just as human as anyone else and can
be just as racist as anyone else.
I think all cops are deeply prejudiced against perps who run,
and fight to resist arrest. I do suspect this was a case of
grossly excessive force, but that's just a suspicion. Get
in a fight with five big guys trained in dealing with the
obstreperous, and things are very likely to not go well
for you, irrespective of any racial issues.
Chris Rock has some very wise words to say on the subject.
https://youtu.be/tYmzbO0cUHo
From what I've seen and read so far, this guy did just about
everything Chris said to do or not to do to not get his ass kicked by
the police. For a beating that severe, there must be something we
don't know yet.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 1:30:33 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example of a Black
Mike Van Pelt wrote:
In article <761d0c0b-050a-45f1...@googlegroups.com>,
Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism
into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
From what I've seen and read so far, this guy did just aboutracist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone who
isn't just like him and says so frequently. He hides his
racial prejudices under a thin layer of politics. Black cops
are just as human as anyone else and can be just as racist as
anyone else.
I think all cops are deeply prejudiced against perps who run,
and fight to resist arrest. I do suspect this was a case of
grossly excessive force, but that's just a suspicion. Get in a
fight with five big guys trained in dealing with the
obstreperous, and things are very likely to not go well for
you, irrespective of any racial issues.
Chris Rock has some very wise words to say on the subject.
https://youtu.be/tYmzbO0cUHo
everything Chris said to do or not to do to not get his ass
kicked by the police. For a beating that severe, there must be
something we don't know yet. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if
it don't work.
I suspect what turned them all into enraged monsters, was gassing
themselves with all that chili spay, as they were douching their
"subject", down with it? This suspicion comes from my own past experiences, breaking up fights, in garbage strewn, wet floored,
chow halls... The jailhouse referees, always took it personal
against the combatants, for the mess it made of their them & their uniforms..... I bet those Memphis lawdogs, were mad as hornets,
while washing that bear spray off, & out, of their eyes, best they
could.... Even well drenched in hot bug juice, he outran the
whole pack of them, which only fanned their anger...
The Monday morning Guesser
film...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 1:30:33 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example of a Black >>>> racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone who
Mike Van Pelt wrote:
In article <761d0c0b-050a-45f1...@googlegroups.com>,
Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism
into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
From what I've seen and read so far, this guy did just aboutisn't just like him and says so frequently. He hides his
racial prejudices under a thin layer of politics. Black cops
are just as human as anyone else and can be just as racist as
anyone else.
I think all cops are deeply prejudiced against perps who run,
and fight to resist arrest. I do suspect this was a case of
grossly excessive force, but that's just a suspicion. Get in a
fight with five big guys trained in dealing with the
obstreperous, and things are very likely to not go well for
you, irrespective of any racial issues.
Chris Rock has some very wise words to say on the subject.
https://youtu.be/tYmzbO0cUHo
everything Chris said to do or not to do to not get his ass
kicked by the police. For a beating that severe, there must be
something we don't know yet. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if
it don't work.
I suspect what turned them all into enraged monsters, was gassing themselves with all that chili spay, as they were douching their "subject", down with it? This suspicion comes from my own past experiences, breaking up fights, in garbage strewn, wet floored,
chow halls... The jailhouse referees, always took it personal
against the combatants, for the mess it made of their them & their uniforms..... I bet those Memphis lawdogs, were mad as hornets,
while washing that bear spray off, & out, of their eyes, best they could.... Even well drenched in hot bug juice, he outran the
whole pack of them, which only fanned their anger...
The Monday morning GuesserOr it could've been the white cop who got them all spun up, and
masterfully sucked them into the swamp of LEO systemic racism. At the
end of the day going forward, I allege that'll play in the news a lot
better than spray ricochet.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 7:49:24 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:I suppose you are attempting to put a false label on me so let me tell you >> again, for the umpteenth time, I am not a racist. I couldn’t care less what
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example of a
Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone who isn't just >>> like him and says so frequently. He hides his racial prejudices under a
thin layer of politics. Black cops are just as human as anyone else and
can be just as racist as anyone else.
TB
your skin color is or if you come from Venus, Mars or Uranus. I am, however >> a stupidist, lazyist, criminalist and self-important pompous assist. None
of those things make me or require me to be a racist. Why, I even have
many Americans of European descent as friends. :-) I even used to hire
some “qualified” white individuals.
Therefore, stuff it you stupid, self-important, pompous ass and find some
other untruth to blather on about.
--
“If you love me I will always be in your heart. If you hate me I will
always be in your mind.” - Donald ‘William Shakespeare’ Trump
lol You're the idiot who told me that rich White guys like me are responsible for the health problems of Black people. You hide your racism under a thin layer of politics. You have repeatedly admitted to being prejudiced against anyone who isn't just like you.
TB
On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:38:47 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an example of a Black
film...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 1:30:33 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
Mike Van Pelt wrote:
In article <761d0c0b-050a-45f1...@googlegroups.com>,
Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing
racism into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
Or it could've been the white cop who got them all spun up, andFrom what I've seen and read so far, this guy did just aboutracist on this group. He's prejudiced against anyone who
isn't just like him and says so frequently. He hides his
racial prejudices under a thin layer of politics. Black
cops are just as human as anyone else and can be just as
racist as anyone else.
I think all cops are deeply prejudiced against perps who
run, and fight to resist arrest. I do suspect this was a
case of grossly excessive force, but that's just a
suspicion. Get in a fight with five big guys trained in
dealing with the obstreperous, and things are very likely
to not go well for you, irrespective of any racial issues.
Chris Rock has some very wise words to say on the subject.
https://youtu.be/tYmzbO0cUHo
everything Chris said to do or not to do to not get his ass
kicked by the police. For a beating that severe, there must
be something we don't know yet. -- bill Theory don't mean
squat if it don't work.
I suspect what turned them all into enraged monsters, was
gassing themselves with all that chili spay, as they were
douching their "subject", down with it? This suspicion comes
from my own past experiences, breaking up fights, in garbage
strewn, wet floored, chow halls... The jailhouse referees,
always took it personal against the combatants, for the mess it
made of their them & their uniforms..... I bet those Memphis
lawdogs, were mad as hornets, while washing that bear spray
off, & out, of their eyes, best they could.... Even well
drenched in hot bug juice, he outran the whole pack of them,
which only fanned their anger...
The Monday morning Guesser
masterfully sucked them into the swamp of LEO systemic racism. At
the end of the day going forward, I allege that'll play in the
news a lot better than spray ricochet. -- bill Theory don't mean
squat if it don't work.
Another one of their "Bros of the Badge" may be fired, just for
being caught, saying, "They should have stomped that asshole into
a grease spot on the street!" Gawd! What a PR nightmare for the
rest of the force, when their whole beloved department appears to
public, to be nothing but a gang of vicious thugs!
On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:55:21 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:--
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:49:11 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:28:40 PM UTC-8,
film...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh
wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8,
bfh wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing
racism into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
LOL! At the end of the day going forward, you can't even settleMore of your irrelevant bullshabble. Native Hawaiians are aLife isn't as defined, nor, neat & tidy, as your allegesIn this time of redefinitioning, I suppose they can.bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have
an example of a Black racist on this group. He's
prejudiced against anyone who isn't just like him and
says so frequently. He hides his racial prejudices
under a thin layer of politics. Black cops are just
as human as anyone else and can be just as racist as
anyone else.
What is your definition of race?
If a fat Black person is prejudiced against a skinny
Black person, is it racism?
If a white Navy pilot is prejudiced against a white
Air Force pilot, is it racism?
If an Asian homeowner is prejudiced against a homeless
Asian, is it racism?
If a Black firefighter is prejudiced against a Black
cop, is it racism?
At the end of the day going forward, myownself alleges
that if the prejudice is not about race, then it's
some prejudice other than racism. But hey. I've been
buried in unfettered redefinitioning before, and
probably will be again in the passage of time, because
the passage of time is significant. -- bill Theory
don't mean squat if it don't work.
are.... FYI, Cops are a race unto themselves, where
civilians are mostly considered "assholes", if they don't
kowtow & kiss ass, to the Police... The editorial just
implied, that historically, Black cops got their
prejudice against Black civilians, from White cops....
That's what I got from your puzzlement.... I'm sure many
had the same "WTF?" moment as you, over the term racism
used for LEOs of color.... I thought it was a stretch
myownself....
Officer Krumpkee Jr.
The fact that life doesn't really fit into neat pigeonholes
is part of what makes this difficult to discuss. There are
usually a lot of factors that go into these horrific
incidents. The us against them attitude that our police
have is obviously part of it. I don't know why anyone is
surprised by Black racism. I've met more than one Black
bigot who announced it proudly. They figured they were
better than the rest.
I thought it was sort of fun, in an annoying way, being a
haole in Hawaii. It didn't help that I was a young White
sailor, but haole was the worst of it as far as those
kanaka cops were concerned, and they didn't mind telling
you about it. I swear. I think all of those guys really
were stereotypically big. I don't think those guys would
have killed me. That would have required too much
paperwork. OTOH I don't think they would have minded
roughing me up if that's what the job called for. I thought
it was mildly educational. I got a small sample of how
other people live all the time.
race, and had they roughed up a haole, it could be racist -
but if they roughed up another Native Hawaiian, it couldn't
be. Race thumping same race is not racist. -- bill Theory
don't mean squat if it don't work.
That statement is ridiculous on the face of it. Prejudice
against you own race still fits the standard definitions of
racism. Some folks internalize the prejudices of the dominant
culture, regardless of the color of their own skin.
on what your own definition of racism is. You told me earlier:
------------------------------------------- You might start with
the commonly understood definition of racism, instead of your
very narrow definition.
------------------------------------------ and then gave me a
link that says: -----------------------------------------------
Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different
behavioral traits corresponding to inherited attributes and can
be divided based on the superiority of one race over
another.[1][2][3] It may also mean prejudice, discrimination, or
antagonism directed against other people because they are of a
different race or ethnicity.[2]
--------------------------------------------- ..."one race over
another." ..."different race"
Different race. Different race. Not Same race. Now you've
reoriented and changed the metric of your calculus in a very
short passage of time about what "the commonly understood
definition of racism" is? HawHawHaw! You're literally a hoot.
Hey. Now maybe you want to disagree about what "the commonly
understood definition" of "a hoot" is? So that you can post some
more condescending and irrelevant bullshabble to demonstrate your
(racial?) superiority over crackers? Or maybe you'd rather argue
about what the "commonly understood definition" of "cracker" is?
HawHawHaw! -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
As I said, It all hinges on definitions for you." You're playing
word games. Racism doesn't magically disappear if the racist has
the same skin color as the people they're prejudiced against.
Racists aren't magically transformed by the color of their skin.
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:49:11 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:--
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:28:40 PM UTC-8,
film...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing
racism into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
More of your irrelevant bullshabble. Native Hawaiians are a race,Life isn't as defined, nor, neat & tidy, as your allegesIn this time of redefinitioning, I suppose they can. Whatbill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
You don't think Black cops can be racists? We have an
example of a Black racist on this group. He's prejudiced
against anyone who isn't just like him and says so
frequently. He hides his racial prejudices under a thin
layer of politics. Black cops are just as human as anyone
else and can be just as racist as anyone else.
is your definition of race?
If a fat Black person is prejudiced against a skinny Black
person, is it racism?
If a white Navy pilot is prejudiced against a white Air
Force pilot, is it racism?
If an Asian homeowner is prejudiced against a homeless
Asian, is it racism?
If a Black firefighter is prejudiced against a Black cop,
is it racism?
At the end of the day going forward, myownself alleges that
if the prejudice is not about race, then it's some
prejudice other than racism. But hey. I've been buried in
unfettered redefinitioning before, and probably will be
again in the passage of time, because the passage of time
is significant. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
work.
are.... FYI, Cops are a race unto themselves, where civilians
are mostly considered "assholes", if they don't kowtow & kiss
ass, to the Police... The editorial just implied, that
historically, Black cops got their prejudice against Black
civilians, from White cops.... That's what I got from your
puzzlement.... I'm sure many had the same "WTF?" moment as
you, over the term racism used for LEOs of color.... I
thought it was a stretch myownself....
Officer Krumpkee Jr.
The fact that life doesn't really fit into neat pigeonholes is
part of what makes this difficult to discuss. There are usually
a lot of factors that go into these horrific incidents. The us
against them attitude that our police have is obviously part of
it. I don't know why anyone is surprised by Black racism. I've
met more than one Black bigot who announced it proudly. They
figured they were better than the rest.
I thought it was sort of fun, in an annoying way, being a haole
in Hawaii. It didn't help that I was a young White sailor, but
haole was the worst of it as far as those kanaka cops were
concerned, and they didn't mind telling you about it. I swear.
I think all of those guys really were stereotypically big. I
don't think those guys would have killed me. That would have
required too much paperwork. OTOH I don't think they would have
minded roughing me up if that's what the job called for. I
thought it was mildly educational. I got a small sample of how
other people live all the time.
and had they roughed up a haole, it could be racist - but if they
roughed up another Native Hawaiian, it couldn't be. Race thumping
same race is not racist. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it
don't work.
That statement is ridiculous on the face of it. Prejudice againstLOL! At the end of the day going forward, you can't even settle on
you own race still fits the standard definitions of racism. Some
folks internalize the prejudices of the dominant culture,
regardless of the color of their own skin.
what your own definition of racism is. You told me earlier: -------------------------------------------
You might start with the commonly understood definition of racism,
instead of your very narrow definition. ------------------------------------------
and then gave me a link that says: -----------------------------------------------
Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different
behavioral traits corresponding to inherited attributes and can be
divided based on the superiority of one race over another.[1][2][3] It
may also mean prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed
against other people because they are of a different race or ethnicity.[2] ---------------------------------------------
..."one race over another."
..."different race"
Different race. Different race. Not Same race.
Now you've reoriented and changed the metric of your calculus in a
very short passage of time about what "the commonly understood
definition of racism" is?
HawHawHaw! You're literally a hoot.
Hey. Now maybe you want to disagree about what "the commonly
understood definition" of "a hoot" is? So that you can post some more condescending and irrelevant bullshabble to demonstrate your (racial?) superiority over crackers? Or maybe you'd rather argue about what the "commonly understood definition" of "cracker" is?
HawHawHaw!
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Who do you want to blame for implying racism, beyond the actual
writer of the "opinion piece"? Of course, the cops would deny
any racism by themselves, always have, and they always will say,
they hold no prejudices, and they are simply doing their job,
although some members of their race exceeded the community's
expectations.... Sounds like you're accusing the usual "outside
agitators, & instigators", "The Media"? That's a bit
presumptive complaint, over one editorial, don't you think?
Google. There's more than one news article out there that's trying to
slip race in.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:28:40 PM UTC-8, film...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism
into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
On 1/29/2023 11:32 PM, bfh wrote:
Who do you want to blame for implying racism, beyond the actual
writer of the "opinion piece"?  Of course, the cops would deny >>> any racism by themselves, always have, and they always will say,
they hold no prejudices, and they are simply doing their job,
although some members of their race exceeded the community's
expectations....  Sounds like you're accusing the usual "outside
agitators, & instigators", "The Media"?   That's a bit >>> presumptive complaint, over one editorial, don't you think?
Google. There's more than one news article out there that's trying
to slip race in.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Why is it that some of your post text is light gray instead of the
default black color? And, in other posts, it's back to "normal" text
color?
On 1/29/2023 10:49 PM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:28:40 PM UTC-8, film...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:37:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 9:04:16 PM UTC-8, bfh
wrote:
and they just can't stop themselves from bringing racism
into it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/opinion/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-violence.html
And, your light gray text disappears when I do a Thunderbird followup.
You sneaky cracker, you.
kmiller wrote:
On 1/29/2023 11:32 PM, bfh wrote:
Who do you want to blame for implying racism, beyond the actual
writer of the "opinion piece"?  Of course, the cops would deny >>>> any racism by themselves, always have, and they always will say,
they hold no prejudices, and they are simply doing their job,
although some members of their race exceeded the community's
expectations....  Sounds like you're accusing the usual "outside >>>> agitators, & instigators", "The Media"?   That's a bit >>>> presumptive complaint, over one editorial, don't you think?
Google. There's more than one news article out there that's trying to
slip race in.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Why is it that some of your post text is light gray instead of the
default black color? And, in other posts, it's back to "normal" text
color?
I don't know, but check to see if the light gray shows only in my
responses to Don or TB.
For years, I've had to rewrap Don's posts when I
reply, because the quote marks are missing if I don't. Just recently,
I've also had to start rewrapping TB's posts. If TB has recently changed
his newsreader, there might be a clue there. Otherwise, at the end of
this paragraph going forward, I literally still don't know.
Meanwhile, my Starlink has gotten back to almost where it was when I
first started. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tvseDn0c9HzC9gvK-rH11mlGviCHRtib/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true
On 1/29/2023 11:32 PM, bfh wrote:Been kinda wonderin' that myself...
Who do you want to blame for implying racism, beyond the actual
writer of the "opinion piece"? Of course, the cops would deny
any racism by themselves, always have, and they always will say,
they hold no prejudices, and they are simply doing their job,
although some members of their race exceeded the community's
expectations.... Sounds like you're accusing the usual "outside
agitators, & instigators", "The Media"? That's a bit
presumptive complaint, over one editorial, don't you think?
Google. There's more than one news article out there that's trying to
slip race in.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Why is it that some of your post text is light gray instead of the
default black color? And, in other posts, it's back to "normal" text color?
On 1/29/2023 10:49 PM, bfh wrote:
And, your light gray text disappears when I do a Thunderbird followup.
You sneaky cracker, you.
Look, so it, like, beats me. However comma I use the newsreader in
Seamonkey - which is a lot like Tbird.
In article <Z6HCL.476498$8_id.151914@fx09.iad>, bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 1/29/2023 10:49 PM, bfh wrote:
And, your light gray text disappears when I do a Thunderbird followup.
You sneaky cracker, you.
Look, so it, like, beats me. However comma I use the newsreader in
Seamonkey - which is a lot like Tbird.
Just guessing, I don't use it, but Seamonkey may be saving text as HTML.
I use good old trn 4.0 from the previous century; installed it under
Windows Subsystem for Linux and set Eternal September as my NNTP server.
It doesn't do HTML. Works just like it did when I was SSHing into
a Unix system.
If the text were HTML, somehow it's getting rendered to plain text
before I see it.
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