• OMG!

    From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 22 10:57:42 2022
    Not cell phones and internet! Just more unintended (or not?)
    consequences of the lunatic left.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/european-green-energy-fiasco-is-terrifying-warning-us-this-winter
    --------------
    In view of recent elections, it seems liberal voters have become
    afflicted with Stockholm Syndrome.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Thu Dec 22 13:33:08 2022
    George.Anthony wrote:

    Not cell phones and internet! Just more unintended (or not?)
    consequences of the lunatic left.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/european-green-energy-fiasco-is-terrifying-warning-us-this-winter

    I don't see a crisis - maybe just a transitory challenge. At the end
    of the day going forward, to get to the root of the problem all they
    literally have to do is pass a law that prohibits the wind from
    slowing down or stopping unless authorized by the Windspeed
    Enforcement Agency. The new agency will be staffed by thoroughly
    vetted Greenies, and they will establish the necessary efficacious
    metrics.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Dec 22 20:17:20 2022
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:

    Not cell phones and internet! Just more unintended (or not?)
    consequences of the lunatic left.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/european-green-energy-fiasco-is-terrifying-warning-us-this-winter


    I don't see a crisis - maybe just a transitory challenge. At the end
    of the day going forward, to get to the root of the problem all they literally have to do is pass a law that prohibits the wind from
    slowing down or stopping unless authorized by the Windspeed
    Enforcement Agency. The new agency will be staffed by thoroughly
    vetted Greenies, and they will establish the necessary efficacious
    metrics.


    I am fearful of what will happen when we use up all the wind and sunshine.
    I need to get more people on board with my wind and sunshine hugging
    effort.

    --

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Thu Dec 22 15:48:36 2022
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:

    Not cell phones and internet! Just more unintended (or not?)
    consequences of the lunatic left.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/european-green-energy-fiasco-is-terrifying-warning-us-this-winter


    I don't see a crisis - maybe just a transitory challenge. At the end
    of the day going forward, to get to the root of the problem all they
    literally have to do is pass a law that prohibits the wind from
    slowing down or stopping unless authorized by the Windspeed
    Enforcement Agency. The new agency will be staffed by thoroughly
    vetted Greenies, and they will establish the necessary efficacious
    metrics.


    I am fearful of what will happen when we use up all the wind and sunshine.

    I'm doing my part - I literally stay inside some days, and don't
    wittingly, intentionally, or purposely use any of either.

    I need to get more people on board with my wind and sunshine hugging
    effort.

    With your inefficacious calculus, you're doomed to failure. You can't
    hug the sunshine, and the wind hugs you when and if it wants to. Shape
    up, man, and follow the science.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Thu Dec 22 15:13:01 2022
    On 12/22/2022 8:57 AM, George.Anthony wrote:

    Not cell phones and internet! Just more unintended (or not?)
    consequences of the lunatic left.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/european-green-energy-fiasco-is-terrifying-warning-us-this-winter
    --------------
    In view of recent elections, it seems liberal voters have become
    afflicted with Stockholm Syndrome.

    lol omg indeed. In that entire propaganda bullshit they manage to
    bury a single sentence on the effect of Russia limiting energy exports.
    But that wasn't even my favorite part of this propaganda excrement. That
    was this paragraph.

    "In the United States, European-style energy policies likewise cause
    tragic consequences with little benefit to Americans. Due to the Biden administration’s inflationary policies, U.S. electricity prices have
    more than doubled. Oil and natural gas prices have done the same.
    Hundreds of people in Texas died in February 2021 after frozen wind
    turbines triggered blackouts. Meanwhile, the administration plans to
    replace fossil fuel power with wind and solar by wrapping up $369
    billion in climate spending in the Inflation Reduction Act."

    Like the Federal government had anything to do with Texans failing
    to prepare their completely independent electrical system from severe
    weather? Maybe you can get back to us soon if they aren't prepared for
    what's coming and tell us all about why it's Biden's fault?

    TB

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sun Dec 25 03:59:24 2022
    On 12/22/2022 3:13 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 12/22/2022 8:57 AM, George.Anthony wrote:

    Not cell phones and internet! Just more unintended (or not?)
    consequences of the lunatic left.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/european-green-energy-fiasco-is-terrifying-warning-us-this-winter
    --------------
    In view of recent elections, it seems liberal voters have become
    afflicted with Stockholm Syndrome.

        lol omg indeed. In that entire propaganda bullshit they manage to bury a single sentence on the effect of Russia limiting energy exports.
    But that wasn't even my favorite part of this propaganda excrement. That
    was this paragraph.

    "In the United States, European-style energy policies likewise cause
    tragic consequences with little benefit to Americans. Due to the Biden administration’s inflationary policies, U.S. electricity prices have
    more than doubled. Oil and natural gas prices have done the same.
    Hundreds of people in Texas died in February 2021 after frozen wind
    turbines triggered blackouts. Meanwhile, the administration plans to
    replace fossil fuel power with wind and solar by wrapping up $369
    billion in climate spending in the Inflation Reduction Act."

         Like the Federal government had anything to do with Texans failing to prepare their completely independent electrical system from severe weather? Maybe you can get back to us soon if they aren't prepared for
    what's coming and tell us all about why it's Biden's fault?

    TB

    Well, no surprise here. It turns out that the Texans were not
    completely prepared for severe weather--again. So, now our jive ass
    troll can tell us why this is all due to their reliance on renewable
    energy and it's all Biden's fault.

    "Greg Abbott Slammed as Thousands Lose Power in Texas During Bomb Cyclone"

    "Texas Governor Greg Abbott faced backlash Friday after thousands of
    Texans were left without power due to an arctic blast slamming into the
    state this week.

    The storm brought icy temperatures and strong winds to Texas on Friday, straining the state's power grid and leaving more than 77,000 customers
    without power. While the storm did not cause widespread blackouts as one
    did in 2021, some power companies were forced to initiate smaller
    blackouts to alleviate the power grid's stress after Texas authorities underestimated demand.

    The outages added political pressure to Abbott, whose administration has
    long faced scrutiny over its handling of the power grid. Much of Texas'
    power grid, managed by the Electric Reliability Council of Texas
    (ERCOT), is independent from that of the rest of the United States."
    [snip]

    "https://www.newsweek.com/greg-abbott-slammed-thousands-lose-power-texas-during-bomb-cyclone-1769505"

    With the dams and wind farms on the Columbia river we have a lot of renewable energy here. We lost power at my house for an hour and a half yesterday. I'm sure it's all Biden's fault. We need to tear down those
    dams and wind turbines and build ourselves some coal fired plants. lol

    TB

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  • From George Antphony@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Sun Dec 25 16:59:53 2022
    On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 12:17:23 PM UTC-8, George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:

    Not cell phones and internet! Just more unintended (or not?)
    consequences of the lunatic left.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/european-green-energy-fiasco-is-terrifying-warning-us-this-winter


    I don't see a crisis - maybe just a transitory challenge. At the end
    of the day going forward, to get to the root of the problem all they literally have to do is pass a law that prohibits the wind from
    slowing down or stopping unless authorized by the Windspeed
    Enforcement Agency. The new agency will be staffed by thoroughly
    vetted Greenies, and they will establish the necessary efficacious
    metrics.

    I am fearful of what will happen when we use up all the wind and sunshine.
    I need to get more people on board with my wind and sunshine hugging
    effort.

    Or you could always join up with your fuck up do nothing Governor, oh yea he is Republican figures.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/energy-environment/major-storm-poses-biggest-test-for-texas-grid-since-uri-killed-246

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Mon Dec 26 09:07:25 2022
    On 12/22/2022 8:57 AM, George.Anthony wrote:

    Not cell phones and internet! Just more unintended (or not?)
    consequences of the lunatic left.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/european-green-energy-fiasco-is-terrifying-warning-us-this-winter
    --------------
    In view of recent elections, it seems liberal voters have become
    afflicted with Stockholm Syndrome.

    "Greg Abbott Faces Texas Grid 'Emergency' as Power Plants Fail"

    "The department added that the vast majority of generating units in the
    ERCOT region continue to run without any issue, however a small number
    of units have experienced "operating difficulties due to cold weather or
    gas curtailments."

    Around 11,000 megawatts of coal and gas-fired power, 4,000 megawatts of
    wind and 1,700 megawatts of solar power generating units were "derated"
    or "outaged" due to severe weather conditions, according to the DOE."

    "In a statement to Newsweek Saturday afternoon, Renae Eze, Abbott's communications director, said no Texans lost power due to the power grid
    and highlighted that the governor signed 14 bills into law to
    "weatherize the Texas power grid and ensure its stability and resiliency.""

    https://www.newsweek.com/greg-abbott-faces-texas-grid-emergency-power-plants-fail-1769570

    Yeah, Texas proves that "green" energy is terrifying. Unless you
    spend the money to protect it from severe weather.

    TB

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Mon Dec 26 19:33:32 2022
    Technobarbarian <technobarbarian-ztopzpam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/22/2022 8:57 AM, George.Anthony wrote:

    Not cell phones and internet! Just more unintended (or not?)
    consequences of the lunatic left.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/european-green-energy-fiasco-is-terrifying-warning-us-this-winter
    --------------
    In view of recent elections, it seems liberal voters have become
    afflicted with Stockholm Syndrome.

    "Greg Abbott Faces Texas Grid 'Emergency' as Power Plants Fail"

    "The department added that the vast majority of generating units in the
    ERCOT region continue to run without any issue, however a small number
    of units have experienced "operating difficulties due to cold weather or
    gas curtailments."

    Around 11,000 megawatts of coal and gas-fired power, 4,000 megawatts of
    wind and 1,700 megawatts of solar power generating units were "derated"
    or "outaged" due to severe weather conditions, according to the DOE."

    "In a statement to Newsweek Saturday afternoon, Renae Eze, Abbott's communications director, said no Texans lost power due to the power grid
    and highlighted that the governor signed 14 bills into law to
    "weatherize the Texas power grid and ensure its stability and resiliency.""

    https://www.newsweek.com/greg-abbott-faces-texas-grid-emergency-power-plants-fail-1769570

    Yeah, Texas proves that "green" energy is terrifying. Unless you
    spend the money to protect it from severe weather.

    TB


    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/cost-benefitanalysis.asp#:~:text=Cost%2Dbenefit%20analysis%20is%20a%20systematic%20method%20for%20quantifying%20and,otherwise%2C%20it%20should%20probably%20not.

    --
    "I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly
    wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white
    racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms…" - Tulsi Gabbard

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Mon Dec 26 15:46:12 2022
    On 12/26/2022 11:33 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/cost-benefitanalysis.asp#:~:text=Cost%2Dbenefit%20analysis%20is%20a%20systematic%20method%20for%20quantifying%20and,otherwise%2C%20it%20should%20probably%20not.

    LOL It should be painful to be that stupid. The reason Texas is
    using "green" energy is because of the analysis of costs and benefits by professionals. The problem in Texas is that, as an individual company,
    it's more profitable if you skimp on protecting your energy source.
    After all, severe weather events aren't all that common, and the company
    can get by if their power supply is limited or off for a few days. Why
    pay for heating equipment for wind turbine blades if you almost never
    need it and you can just shut off the turbine if weather gets bad?
    What's good for individual companies isn't necessarily good good for the
    whole grid. The Texans figured that out last year.

    When Texas starts scrapping their wind turbines you can tell us
    how dangerous green energy is. LOL

    TB

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Mon Dec 26 18:03:01 2022
    On 12/26/2022 9:07 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 12/22/2022 8:57 AM, George.Anthony wrote:

    Not cell phones and internet! Just more unintended (or not?)
    consequences of the lunatic left.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/european-green-energy-fiasco-is-terrifying-warning-us-this-winter
    --------------
    In view of recent elections, it seems liberal voters have become
    afflicted with Stockholm Syndrome.

    "Greg Abbott Faces Texas Grid 'Emergency' as Power Plants Fail"

    "The department added that the vast majority of generating units in the
    ERCOT region continue to run without any issue, however a small number
    of units have experienced "operating difficulties due to cold weather or
    gas curtailments."

    Around 11,000 megawatts of coal and gas-fired power, 4,000 megawatts of
    wind and 1,700 megawatts of solar power generating units were "derated"
    or "outaged" due to severe weather conditions, according to the DOE."

    "In a statement to Newsweek Saturday afternoon, Renae Eze, Abbott's communications director, said no Texans lost power due to the power grid
    and highlighted that the governor signed 14 bills into law to
    "weatherize the Texas power grid and ensure its stability and resiliency.""

    https://www.newsweek.com/greg-abbott-faces-texas-grid-emergency-power-plants-fail-1769570

         Yeah, Texas proves that "green" energy is terrifying. Unless you spend the money to protect it from severe weather.

    TB

    One wonders how a coal fired power plant can freeze but then, it is Texas.

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to kmiller on Tue Dec 27 13:56:16 2022
    kmiller <i09172@removethisspamblockerstuff-yahoo.com> wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 9:07 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 12/22/2022 8:57 AM, George.Anthony wrote:

    Not cell phones and internet! Just more unintended (or not?)
    consequences of the lunatic left.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/european-green-energy-fiasco-is-terrifying-warning-us-this-winter
    --------------
    In view of recent elections, it seems liberal voters have become
    afflicted with Stockholm Syndrome.

    "Greg Abbott Faces Texas Grid 'Emergency' as Power Plants Fail"

    "The department added that the vast majority of generating units in the
    ERCOT region continue to run without any issue, however a small number
    of units have experienced "operating difficulties due to cold weather or
    gas curtailments."

    Around 11,000 megawatts of coal and gas-fired power, 4,000 megawatts of
    wind and 1,700 megawatts of solar power generating units were "derated"
    or "outaged" due to severe weather conditions, according to the DOE."

    "In a statement to Newsweek Saturday afternoon, Renae Eze, Abbott's
    communications director, said no Texans lost power due to the power grid
    and highlighted that the governor signed 14 bills into law to
    "weatherize the Texas power grid and ensure its stability and resiliency."" >>
    https://www.newsweek.com/greg-abbott-faces-texas-grid-emergency-power-plants-fail-1769570

         Yeah, Texas proves that "green" energy is terrifying. Unless you
    spend the money to protect it from severe weather.

    TB

    One wonders how a coal fired power plant can freeze but then, it is Texas.


    If you had more than a pea brain you could figure that out.

    --
    "I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly
    wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white
    racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms…" - Tulsi Gabbard

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to kmiller on Wed Dec 28 08:57:41 2022
    On 12/26/2022 6:03 PM, kmiller wrote:
    On 12/26/2022 9:07 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 12/22/2022 8:57 AM, George.Anthony wrote:

    Not cell phones and internet! Just more unintended (or not?)
    consequences of the lunatic left.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/european-green-energy-fiasco-is-terrifying-warning-us-this-winter
    --------------
    In view of recent elections, it seems liberal voters have become
    afflicted with Stockholm Syndrome.

    "Greg Abbott Faces Texas Grid 'Emergency' as Power Plants Fail"

    "The department added that the vast majority of generating units in
    the ERCOT region continue to run without any issue, however a small
    number of units have experienced "operating difficulties due to cold
    weather or gas curtailments."

    Around 11,000 megawatts of coal and gas-fired power, 4,000 megawatts
    of wind and 1,700 megawatts of solar power generating units were
    "derated" or "outaged" due to severe weather conditions, according to
    the DOE."

    "In a statement to Newsweek Saturday afternoon, Renae Eze, Abbott's
    communications director, said no Texans lost power due to the power
    grid and highlighted that the governor signed 14 bills into law to
    "weatherize the Texas power grid and ensure its stability and
    resiliency.""

    https://www.newsweek.com/greg-abbott-faces-texas-grid-emergency-power-plants-fail-1769570

          Yeah, Texas proves that "green" energy is terrifying. Unless you >> spend the money to protect it from severe weather.

    TB

    One wonders how a coal fired power plant can freeze but then, it is Texas.

    That's a part of this that the propagandists would like you to
    forget. Green energy was only part of the problem in Texas. They had
    fossil fuel generators fail too. It was mostly the same story for them.
    Why spend money preparing for extreme weather when that almost never
    happens, and you can get by for a few days by drawing power from the
    rest of the grid? The technology and the economics didn't change. What
    changed is 14 new mandates from the state government. That reduced their problem to a fraction of what it had been.

    TB

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