"Portland mayor suggests easing process to involuntarily commit people
with mental health struggles"
Speaking of jokes. Even if they did this they don't have anywhere
to put those people or staff to take care of them. The state's mental
health system is already overloaded. No one has even looked at the
price tag for this yet. Our judicial system is looking at the problem.
They figure it will take two years to come up with an answer for the
legal issues. I think that's probably very optimistic. They might have figured out an answer for the financial issues by than, but I doubt
that too.
"Portland mayor suggests easing process to involuntarily commit people
with mental health struggles"
"Oregon has long made it difficult to force people to get mental
health treatment. But as homelessness worsens, there are growing calls
to loosen those laws.
Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler wants it to be easier to force people
living on the streets into hospitals — even if they have not committed a crime.
“When I see people walking through the elements without appropriate attire, often naked, they are freezing to death, they are exposed to
the elements … I don’t even know if they know where they are or who they are,†Wheeler told a room full of business owners recently, “They need help and they need compassion.
Wheeler’s comments came at a meeting to discuss crime in Portland’s Central Eastside. The mayor held the forum after the
owner of Portland’s well-known ice cream brand Salt & Straw threatened to leave the city and amid his own effort to get tougher on
public camping. He was asked directly at the forum whether he would
support hospitalizing more people involuntarily.
Wheeler prepped the audience, saying he would be “resoundingly excoriated†for his comments."â€
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/12/12/portland-mayor-ted-wheeler-suggests-easing-process-involuntarily-commit-mentally-ill/
"Oregon's process for forced mental health treatment could eventually
see changes
With rising pressure to improve care for people with mental illness
who deny treatment, a mixed group of state leaders are looking at
changing state laws.
PORTLAND, Ore. — A group of Oregon leaders — from judges to doctors to mental health experts — are working to overhaul state standards for civil commitment and forced mental health care amid
calls for change.
The Oregon Judicial Department convened the group of 21 panelists,
called the "Commitment to Change Workgroup." It started meeting this
fall, and the panelists plan to meet each month for the next two years.
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/uncommitted-oregon-mental-illness-forced-care-changes/283-04d59004-91f3-45ba-901a-aad8c64a9762
Get a load of this list:
Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
PROGRAMS AND COMMITTEES
Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
The Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination Committee
is hosted by the Oregon Judicial Department and brings together the
leaders of multi-stakeholder committees, councils, and workgroups
working on issues at the intersection of Oregon’s behavioral health and justice systems to ensure collaboration and consistency of
statewide efforts.
Current Member Groups
Visit our Member Group Page for more information on each group listed
below.
Senate Committee on Human Service, Mental Health and Recovery
Senate Committee on Judiciary and Ballot Measure 110
House Committee on Behavioral Health
Governor’s Behavioral Health Committees
Chief Justice’s Behavioral Health Advisory Committee
IMPACTS Grant Program
Legislative Workgroup to Decriminalize Mental Illness
Legislative Workgroup on Ballot Measure 110
Measure 110 Oversight and Accountability Council
988 Crisis Line Implementation Workgroup
GAINS Regional Behavioral Health Resource Centers Workgroup
SB 24 Implementation Workgroup
Psychiatric Security Review Board Workgroup
Oregon Center on Behavioral Health and Justice Integration Steering Committee
Forensic Evaluation Certification Workgroup
Behavioral Health Emergency Coordination Network (BHECN)
https://www.courts.oregon.gov/programs/BHLeadership/Pages/default.aspx
TB
Technobarbarian wrote:
Well, damn. With all those ballot measures, committees, workgroups, and councils all laser-focused on 'doing something' - with no doubt each
"Portland mayor suggests easing process to involuntarily commit people
with mental health struggles"
Speaking of jokes. Even if they did this they don't have anywhere >> to put those people or staff to take care of them. The state's mental
health system is already overloaded. No one has even looked at the
price tag for this yet. Our judicial system is looking at the problem.
They figure it will take two years to come up with an answer for the
legal issues. I think that's probably very optimistic. They might have
figured out an answer for the financial issues by than, but I doubt
that too.
"Portland mayor suggests easing process to involuntarily commit people
with mental health struggles"
"Oregon has long made it difficult to force people to get mental
health treatment. But as homelessness worsens, there are growing calls
to loosen those laws.
Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler wants it to be easier to force people
living on the streets into hospitals — even if they have not
committed a crime.
“When I see people walking through the elements without appropriate
attire, often naked, they are freezing to death, they are exposed to
the elements … I don’t even know if they know where they are or >> who they are,†Wheeler told a room full of business owners recently, >> “They need help and they need compassion.
Wheeler’s comments came at a meeting to discuss crime in
Portland’s Central Eastside. The mayor held the forum after the
owner of Portland’s well-known ice cream brand Salt & Straw
threatened to leave the city and amid his own effort to get tougher on
public camping. He was asked directly at the forum whether he would
support hospitalizing more people involuntarily.
Wheeler prepped the audience, saying he would be “resoundingly
excoriated†for his comments."â€
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/12/12/portland-mayor-ted-wheeler-suggests-easing-process-involuntarily-commit-mentally-ill/
"Oregon's process for forced mental health treatment could eventually
see changes
With rising pressure to improve care for people with mental illness
who deny treatment, a mixed group of state leaders are looking at
changing state laws.
PORTLAND, Ore. — A group of Oregon leaders — from judges to
doctors to mental health experts — are working to overhaul state
standards for civil commitment and forced mental health care amid
calls for change.
The Oregon Judicial Department convened the group of 21 panelists,
called the "Commitment to Change Workgroup." It started meeting this
fall, and the panelists plan to meet each month for the next two years.
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/uncommitted-oregon-mental-illness-forced-care-changes/283-04d59004-91f3-45ba-901a-aad8c64a9762
Get a load of this list:
Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
PROGRAMS AND COMMITTEES
Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
The Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination Committee
is hosted by the Oregon Judicial Department and brings together the
leaders of multi-stakeholder committees, councils, and workgroups
working on issues at the intersection of Oregon’s behavioral health >> and justice systems to ensure collaboration and consistency of
statewide efforts.
Current Member Groups
Visit our Member Group Page for more information on each group listed
below.
Senate Committee on Human Service, Mental Health and Recovery
Senate Committee on Judiciary and Ballot Measure 110
House Committee on Behavioral Health
Governor’s Behavioral Health Committees
Chief Justice’s Behavioral Health Advisory Committee
IMPACTS Grant Program
Legislative Workgroup to Decriminalize Mental Illness
Legislative Workgroup on Ballot Measure 110
Measure 110 Oversight and Accountability Council
988 Crisis Line Implementation Workgroup
GAINS Regional Behavioral Health Resource Centers Workgroup
SB 24 Implementation Workgroup
Psychiatric Security Review Board Workgroup
Oregon Center on Behavioral Health and Justice Integration Steering
Committee
Forensic Evaluation Certification Workgroup
Behavioral Health Emergency Coordination Network (BHECN)
https://www.courts.oregon.gov/programs/BHLeadership/Pages/default.aspx
TB
bunch consisting of Experts in their fields - y'all should literally
have some efficacious solutions by the end of the week going forward.
And so, look, in that context, I allege that I think I see a broad-based windfall in y'all's future out there. Once the fascists hidden among you
get the legal authority to start involuntarily committing people to
'health care facilities' for their own good, all sorts of new
opportunities will open up for lawyers, medical professionals, health
care specialists, social workers, building construction workers, admin people, cooks, janitorial services, plumbers, electricians, burly
drivers to compassionately pluck 'em off the streets, and who knows who
else. You might even be able to cadge a bunch of money from Build Back
Better and not have to raise taxes (you might also be able to divert
some of that money to build that bridge). You could also end up with the lowest unemployment in the whole nation.
And a word of unsolicited advice: When y'all start promoting all those solutions that I'm confident that you'll develop, don't forget to insert "humanitarian crisis" and "Number One Priority" in every paragraph that
can reasonably hold one or both. Lotta power and inherent momentum in
those phrases, you know.
Technobarbarian wrote:
Well, damn. With all those ballot measures, committees, workgroups, and councils all laser-focused on 'doing something' - with no doubt each
"Portland mayor suggests easing process to involuntarily commit people
with mental health struggles"
Speaking of jokes. Even if they did this they don't have anywhere >> to put those people or staff to take care of them. The state's mental
health system is already overloaded. No one has even looked at the
price tag for this yet. Our judicial system is looking at the problem.
They figure it will take two years to come up with an answer for the
legal issues. I think that's probably very optimistic. They might have
figured out an answer for the financial issues by than, but I doubt
that too.
"Portland mayor suggests easing process to involuntarily commit people
with mental health struggles"
"Oregon has long made it difficult to force people to get mental
health treatment. But as homelessness worsens, there are growing calls
to loosen those laws.
Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler wants it to be easier to force people
living on the streets into hospitals — even if they have not
committed a crime.
“When I see people walking through the elements without appropriate
attire, often naked, they are freezing to death, they are exposed to
the elements … I don’t even know if they know where they are or >> who they are,†Wheeler told a room full of business owners recently, >> “They need help and they need compassion.
Wheeler’s comments came at a meeting to discuss crime in
Portland’s Central Eastside. The mayor held the forum after the
owner of Portland’s well-known ice cream brand Salt & Straw
threatened to leave the city and amid his own effort to get tougher on
public camping. He was asked directly at the forum whether he would
support hospitalizing more people involuntarily.
Wheeler prepped the audience, saying he would be “resoundingly
excoriated†for his comments."â€
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/12/12/portland-mayor-ted-wheeler-suggests-easing-process-involuntarily-commit-mentally-ill/
"Oregon's process for forced mental health treatment could eventually
see changes
With rising pressure to improve care for people with mental illness
who deny treatment, a mixed group of state leaders are looking at
changing state laws.
PORTLAND, Ore. — A group of Oregon leaders — from judges to
doctors to mental health experts — are working to overhaul state
standards for civil commitment and forced mental health care amid
calls for change.
The Oregon Judicial Department convened the group of 21 panelists,
called the "Commitment to Change Workgroup." It started meeting this
fall, and the panelists plan to meet each month for the next two years.
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/uncommitted-oregon-mental-illness-forced-care-changes/283-04d59004-91f3-45ba-901a-aad8c64a9762
Get a load of this list:
Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
PROGRAMS AND COMMITTEES
Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
The Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination Committee
is hosted by the Oregon Judicial Department and brings together the
leaders of multi-stakeholder committees, councils, and workgroups
working on issues at the intersection of Oregon’s behavioral health >> and justice systems to ensure collaboration and consistency of
statewide efforts.
Current Member Groups
Visit our Member Group Page for more information on each group listed
below.
Senate Committee on Human Service, Mental Health and Recovery
Senate Committee on Judiciary and Ballot Measure 110
House Committee on Behavioral Health
Governor’s Behavioral Health Committees
Chief Justice’s Behavioral Health Advisory Committee
IMPACTS Grant Program
Legislative Workgroup to Decriminalize Mental Illness
Legislative Workgroup on Ballot Measure 110
Measure 110 Oversight and Accountability Council
988 Crisis Line Implementation Workgroup
GAINS Regional Behavioral Health Resource Centers Workgroup
SB 24 Implementation Workgroup
Psychiatric Security Review Board Workgroup
Oregon Center on Behavioral Health and Justice Integration Steering
Committee
Forensic Evaluation Certification Workgroup
Behavioral Health Emergency Coordination Network (BHECN)
https://www.courts.oregon.gov/programs/BHLeadership/Pages/default.aspx
TB
bunch consisting of Experts in their fields - y'all should literally
have some efficacious solutions by the end of the week going forward.
And so, look, in that context, I allege that I think I see a broad-based windfall in y'all's future out there. Once the fascists hidden among you
get the legal authority to start involuntarily committing people to
'health care facilities' for their own good, all sorts of new
opportunities will open up for lawyers, medical professionals, health
care specialists, social workers, building construction workers, admin people, cooks, janitorial services, plumbers, electricians, burly
drivers to compassionately pluck 'em off the streets, and who knows who
else. You might even be able to cadge a bunch of money from Build Back
Better and not have to raise taxes (you might also be able to divert
some of that money to build that bridge). You could also end up with the lowest unemployment in the whole nation.
And a word of unsolicited advice: When y'all start promoting all those solutions that I'm confident that you'll develop, don't forget to insert "humanitarian crisis" and "Number One Priority" in every paragraph that
can reasonably hold one or both. Lotta power and inherent momentum in
those phrases, you know.
On 12/12/2022 9:16 PM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
Well, damn. With all those ballot measures, committees, workgroups,
"Portland mayor suggests easing process to involuntarily commit
people with mental health struggles"
Speaking of jokes. Even if they did this they don't have
anywhere to put those people or staff to take care of them. The
state's mental health system is already overloaded. No one has even
looked at the price tag for this yet. Our judicial system is looking
at the problem. They figure it will take two years to come up with an
answer for the legal issues. I think that's probably very optimistic.
They might have figured out an answer for the financial issues by
than, but I doubt that too.
"Portland mayor suggests easing process to involuntarily commit
people with mental health struggles"
"Oregon has long made it difficult to force people to get mental
health treatment. But as homelessness worsens, there are growing
calls to loosen those laws.
Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler wants it to be easier to force people
living on the streets into hospitals — even if they have not
committed a crime.
“When I see people walking through the elements without appropriate >>> attire, often naked, they are freezing to death, they are exposed to
the elements … I don’t even know if they know where they are or
who they are,†Wheeler told a room full of business owners
recently, “They need help and they need compassion.
Wheeler’s comments came at a meeting to discuss crime in
Portland’s Central Eastside. The mayor held the forum after the
owner of Portland’s well-known ice cream brand Salt & Straw
threatened to leave the city and amid his own effort to get tougher
on public camping. He was asked directly at the forum whether he
would support hospitalizing more people involuntarily.
Wheeler prepped the audience, saying he would be “resoundingly
excoriated†for his comments."â€
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/12/12/portland-mayor-ted-wheeler-suggests-easing-process-involuntarily-commit-mentally-ill/
"Oregon's process for forced mental health treatment could eventually
see changes
With rising pressure to improve care for people with mental illness
who deny treatment, a mixed group of state leaders are looking at
changing state laws.
PORTLAND, Ore. — A group of Oregon leaders — from judges to >>> doctors to mental health experts — are working to overhaul state
standards for civil commitment and forced mental health care amid
calls for change.
The Oregon Judicial Department convened the group of 21 panelists,
called the "Commitment to Change Workgroup." It started meeting this
fall, and the panelists plan to meet each month for the next two years.
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/uncommitted-oregon-mental-illness-forced-care-changes/283-04d59004-91f3-45ba-901a-aad8c64a9762
Get a load of this list:
Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
PROGRAMS AND COMMITTEES
Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
The Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
Committee is hosted by the Oregon Judicial Department and brings
together the leaders of multi-stakeholder committees, councils, and
workgroups working on issues at the intersection of Oregon’s
behavioral health and justice systems to ensure collaboration and
consistency of statewide efforts.
Current Member Groups
Visit our Member Group Page for more information on each group listed
below.
Senate Committee on Human Service, Mental Health and Recovery
Senate Committee on Judiciary and Ballot Measure 110
House Committee on Behavioral Health
Governor’s Behavioral Health Committees
Chief Justice’s Behavioral Health Advisory Committee
IMPACTS Grant Program
Legislative Workgroup to Decriminalize Mental Illness
Legislative Workgroup on Ballot Measure 110
Measure 110 Oversight and Accountability Council
988 Crisis Line Implementation Workgroup
GAINS Regional Behavioral Health Resource Centers Workgroup
SB 24 Implementation Workgroup
Psychiatric Security Review Board Workgroup
Oregon Center on Behavioral Health and Justice Integration Steering
Committee
Forensic Evaluation Certification Workgroup
Behavioral Health Emergency Coordination Network (BHECN)
https://www.courts.oregon.gov/programs/BHLeadership/Pages/default.aspx
TB
and councils all laser-focused on 'doing something' - with no doubt
each bunch consisting of Experts in their fields - y'all should
literally have some efficacious solutions by the end of the week going
forward.
And so, look, in that context, I allege that I think I see a
broad-based windfall in y'all's future out there. Once the fascists
hidden among you get the legal authority to start involuntarily
committing people to 'health care facilities' for their own good, all
sorts of new opportunities will open up for lawyers, medical
professionals, health care specialists, social workers, building
construction workers, admin people, cooks, janitorial services,
plumbers, electricians, burly drivers to compassionately pluck 'em off
the streets, and who knows who else. You might even be able to cadge a
bunch of money from Build Back Better and not have to raise taxes (you
might also be able to divert some of that money to build that bridge).
You could also end up with the lowest unemployment in the whole nation.
And a word of unsolicited advice: When y'all start promoting all those
solutions that I'm confident that you'll develop, don't forget to
insert "humanitarian crisis" and "Number One Priority" in every
paragraph that can reasonably hold one or both. Lotta power and
inherent momentum in those phrases, you know.
MGT says if she was in charge of Jan 6 there would be a lot more homes available to the homeless. Even some very nice ones like Pence's, for example. Employment would also have increased for gun manufacturers,
ammo makers, kevlar clothiers, builders and building renovators. She
would also save all that money wasted on elections and ballots. With her
and the orange goon both ignoring the constitution it could be used for
the toilet paper that they and most repubes think it is.
On 12/12/2022 9:16 PM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
Well, damn. With all those ballot measures, committees, workgroups,
"Portland mayor suggests easing process to involuntarily commit
people with mental health struggles"
    Speaking of jokes. Even if they did this they don't have >>> anywhere to put those people or staff to take care of them. The
state's mental health system is already overloaded. No one has even
looked at the price tag for this yet. Our judicial system is
looking at the problem. They figure it will take two years to come
up with an answer for the legal issues. I think that's probably
very optimistic. They might have figured out an answer for the
financial issues by than, but I doubt that too.
"Portland mayor suggests easing process to involuntarily commit
people with mental health struggles"
"Oregon has long made it difficult to force people to get mental
health treatment. But as homelessness worsens, there are growing
calls to loosen those laws.
Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler wants it to be easier to force people
living on the streets into hospitals  even if they have not
committed a crime.
“When I see people walking through the elements without
appropriate attire, often naked, they are freezing to death, they
are exposed to the elements … I don’t even know if
they know where they are or who they are,†Wheeler told a >>> room full of business owners recently, “They need help and >>> they need compassion.
Wheeler’s comments came at a meeting to discuss crime in >>> Portland’s Central Eastside. The mayor held the forum after
the owner of Portland’s well-known ice cream brand Salt & >>> Straw threatened to leave the city and amid his own effort to get
tougher on public camping. He was asked directly at the forum
whether he would support hospitalizing more people involuntarily.
Wheeler prepped the audience, saying he would be
“resoundingly excoriated†for his comments."â€Â
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/12/12/portland-mayor-ted-wheeler-suggests-easing-process-involuntarily-commit-mentally-ill/
"Oregon's process for forced mental health treatment could
eventually see changes
With rising pressure to improve care for people with mental illness
who deny treatment, a mixed group of state leaders are looking at
changing state laws.
PORTLAND, Ore.  A group of Oregon leaders  from
judges to doctors to mental health experts  are working to
overhaul state standards for civil commitment and forced mental
health care amid calls for change.
The Oregon Judicial Department convened the group of 21 panelists,
called the "Commitment to Change Workgroup." It started meeting
this fall, and the panelists plan to meet each month for the next
two years.
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/uncommitted-oregon-mental-illness-forced-care-changes/283-04d59004-91f3-45ba-901a-aad8c64a9762
    Get a load of this list:
Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
PROGRAMS AND COMMITTEES
Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
The Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
Committee is hosted by the Oregon Judicial Department and brings
together the leaders of multi-stakeholder committees, councils, and
workgroups working on issues at the intersection of Oregon’s
behavioral health and justice systems to ensure collaboration and
consistency of statewide efforts.
  Current Member Groups
Visit our Member Group Page for more information on each group
listed below.
Senate Committee on Human Service, Mental Health and Recovery
Senate Committee on Judiciary and Ballot Measure 110
House Committee on Behavioral Health
Governor’s Behavioral Health Committees
Chief Justice’s Behavioral Health Advisory Committee
IMPACTS Grant Program
Legislative Workgroup to Decriminalize Mental Illness
Legislative Workgroup on Ballot Measure 110
Measure 110 Oversight and Accountability Council
988 Crisis Line Implementation Workgroup
GAINS Regional Behavioral Health Resource Centers Workgroup
SB 24 Implementation Workgroup
Psychiatric Security Review Board Workgroup
Oregon Center on Behavioral Health and Justice Integration Steering
Committee
Forensic Evaluation Certification Workgroup
Behavioral Health Emergency Coordination Network (BHECN)
https://www.courts.oregon.gov/programs/BHLeadership/Pages/default.aspx
TB
and councils all laser-focused on 'doing something' - with no doubt
each bunch consisting of Experts in their fields - y'all should
literally have some efficacious solutions by the end of the week
going forward.
And so, look, in that context, I allege that I think I see a
broad-based windfall in y'all's future out there. Once the fascists
hidden among you get the legal authority to start involuntarily
committing people to 'health care facilities' for their own good,
all sorts of new opportunities will open up for lawyers, medical
professionals, health care specialists, social workers, building
construction workers, admin people, cooks, janitorial services,
plumbers, electricians, burly drivers to compassionately pluck 'em
off the streets, and who knows who else. You might even be able to
cadge a bunch of money from Build Back Better and not have to raise
taxes (you might also be able to divert some of that money to build
that bridge). You could also end up with the lowest unemployment in
the whole nation.
And a word of unsolicited advice: When y'all start promoting all
those solutions that I'm confident that you'll develop, don't forget
to insert "humanitarian crisis" and "Number One Priority" in every
paragraph that can reasonably hold one or both. Lotta power and
inherent momentum in those phrases, you know.
MGT says if she was in charge of Jan 6 there would be a lot more homes available to the homeless. Even some very nice ones like Pence's, for example. Employment would also have increased for gun manufacturers,
ammo makers, kevlar clothiers, builders and building renovators. She
would also save all that money wasted on elections and ballots. With
her and the orange goon both ignoring the constitution it could be
used for the toilet paper that they and most repubes think it is.
kmiller wrote:
On 12/12/2022 9:16 PM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
Well, damn. With all those ballot measures, committees, workgroups,
"Portland mayor suggests easing process to involuntarily commit
people with mental health struggles"
    Speaking of jokes. Even if they did this they don't have >>>> anywhere to put those people or staff to take care of them. The
state's mental health system is already overloaded. No one has even
looked at the price tag for this yet. Our judicial system is looking
at the problem. They figure it will take two years to come up with
an answer for the legal issues. I think that's probably very
optimistic. They might have figured out an answer for the financial
issues by than, but I doubt that too.
"Portland mayor suggests easing process to involuntarily commit
people with mental health struggles"
"Oregon has long made it difficult to force people to get mental
health treatment. But as homelessness worsens, there are growing
calls to loosen those laws.
Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler wants it to be easier to force people
living on the streets into hospitals  even if they have not
committed a crime.
“When I see people walking through the elements without >>>> appropriate attire, often naked, they are freezing to death, they
are exposed to the elements … I don’t even know if they
know where they are or who they are,†Wheeler told a room full
of business owners recently, “They need help and they need >>>> compassion.
Wheeler’s comments came at a meeting to discuss crime in >>>> Portland’s Central Eastside. The mayor held the forum after
the owner of Portland’s well-known ice cream brand Salt & >>>> Straw threatened to leave the city and amid his own effort to get
tougher on public camping. He was asked directly at the forum
whether he would support hospitalizing more people involuntarily.
Wheeler prepped the audience, saying he would be “resoundingly
excoriated†for his comments."â€Â
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/12/12/portland-mayor-ted-wheeler-suggests-easing-process-involuntarily-commit-mentally-ill/
"Oregon's process for forced mental health treatment could
eventually see changes
With rising pressure to improve care for people with mental illness
who deny treatment, a mixed group of state leaders are looking at
changing state laws.
PORTLAND, Ore.  A group of Oregon leaders  from
judges to doctors to mental health experts  are working to
overhaul state standards for civil commitment and forced mental
health care amid calls for change.
The Oregon Judicial Department convened the group of 21 panelists,
called the "Commitment to Change Workgroup." It started meeting this
fall, and the panelists plan to meet each month for the next two years. >>>>
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/uncommitted-oregon-mental-illness-forced-care-changes/283-04d59004-91f3-45ba-901a-aad8c64a9762
    Get a load of this list:
Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
PROGRAMS AND COMMITTEES
Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
The Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
Committee is hosted by the Oregon Judicial Department and brings
together the leaders of multi-stakeholder committees, councils, and
workgroups working on issues at the intersection of Oregon’s
behavioral health and justice systems to ensure collaboration and
consistency of statewide efforts.
  Current Member Groups
Visit our Member Group Page for more information on each group
listed below.
Senate Committee on Human Service, Mental Health and Recovery
Senate Committee on Judiciary and Ballot Measure 110
House Committee on Behavioral Health
Governor’s Behavioral Health Committees
Chief Justice’s Behavioral Health Advisory Committee
IMPACTS Grant Program
Legislative Workgroup to Decriminalize Mental Illness
Legislative Workgroup on Ballot Measure 110
Measure 110 Oversight and Accountability Council
988 Crisis Line Implementation Workgroup
GAINS Regional Behavioral Health Resource Centers Workgroup
SB 24 Implementation Workgroup
Psychiatric Security Review Board Workgroup
Oregon Center on Behavioral Health and Justice Integration Steering
Committee
Forensic Evaluation Certification Workgroup
Behavioral Health Emergency Coordination Network (BHECN)
https://www.courts.oregon.gov/programs/BHLeadership/Pages/default.aspx >>>>
TB
and councils all laser-focused on 'doing something' - with no doubt
each bunch consisting of Experts in their fields - y'all should
literally have some efficacious solutions by the end of the week
going forward.
And so, look, in that context, I allege that I think I see a
broad-based windfall in y'all's future out there. Once the fascists
hidden among you get the legal authority to start involuntarily
committing people to 'health care facilities' for their own good, all
sorts of new opportunities will open up for lawyers, medical
professionals, health care specialists, social workers, building
construction workers, admin people, cooks, janitorial services,
plumbers, electricians, burly drivers to compassionately pluck 'em
off the streets, and who knows who else. You might even be able to
cadge a bunch of money from Build Back Better and not have to raise
taxes (you might also be able to divert some of that money to build
that bridge). You could also end up with the lowest unemployment in
the whole nation.
And a word of unsolicited advice: When y'all start promoting all
those solutions that I'm confident that you'll develop, don't forget
to insert "humanitarian crisis" and "Number One Priority" in every
paragraph that can reasonably hold one or both. Lotta power and
inherent momentum in those phrases, you know.
MGT says if she was in charge of Jan 6 there would be a lot more homes
available to the homeless. Even some very nice ones like Pence's, for
example. Employment would also have increased for gun manufacturers,
ammo makers, kevlar clothiers, builders and building renovators. She
would also save all that money wasted on elections and ballots. With
her and the orange goon both ignoring the constitution it could be
used for the toilet paper that they and most repubes think it is.
I sort of agree that your analysis of your hypothetical situation is
uniquely possible in some carefully chosen contexts, but I fail to see
how it will solve the Portland homeless infection..............unless
you intend to vaccinate the homeless with shots from all the new guns
and ammo.
Technobarbarian wrote:
"Portland mayor suggests easing process to involuntarily commit people with mental health struggles"
Speaking of jokes. Even if they did this they don't have anywhere
to put those people or staff to take care of them. The state's mental health system is already overloaded. No one has even looked at the
price tag for this yet. Our judicial system is looking at the problem. They figure it will take two years to come up with an answer for the
legal issues. I think that's probably very optimistic. They might have figured out an answer for the financial issues by than, but I doubt
that too.
"Portland mayor suggests easing process to involuntarily commit people with mental health struggles"
"Oregon has long made it difficult to force people to get mental
health treatment. But as homelessness worsens, there are growing calls
to loosen those laws.
Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler wants it to be easier to force people
living on the streets into hospitals — even if they have not committed a crime.
“When I see people walking through the elements without appropriate attire, often naked, they are freezing to death, they are exposed to
the elements … I don’t even know if they know where they are or
who they are,†Wheeler told a room full of business owners recently, “They need help and they need compassion.
Wheeler’s comments came at a meeting to discuss crime in Portland’s Central Eastside. The mayor held the forum after the owner of Portland’s well-known ice cream brand Salt & Straw threatened to leave the city and amid his own effort to get tougher on public camping. He was asked directly at the forum whether he would support hospitalizing more people involuntarily.
Wheeler prepped the audience, saying he would be “resoundingly excoriated†for his comments."â€
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/12/12/portland-mayor-ted-wheeler-suggests-easing-process-involuntarily-commit-mentally-ill/
"Oregon's process for forced mental health treatment could eventually
see changes
With rising pressure to improve care for people with mental illness
who deny treatment, a mixed group of state leaders are looking at
changing state laws.
PORTLAND, Ore. — A group of Oregon leaders — from judges to doctors to mental health experts — are working to overhaul state standards for civil commitment and forced mental health care amid
calls for change.
The Oregon Judicial Department convened the group of 21 panelists,
called the "Commitment to Change Workgroup." It started meeting this
fall, and the panelists plan to meet each month for the next two years.
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/uncommitted-oregon-mental-illness-forced-care-changes/283-04d59004-91f3-45ba-901a-aad8c64a9762
Get a load of this list:
Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
PROGRAMS AND COMMITTEES
Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
The Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination Committee
is hosted by the Oregon Judicial Department and brings together the leaders of multi-stakeholder committees, councils, and workgroups
working on issues at the intersection of Oregon’s behavioral health and justice systems to ensure collaboration and consistency of
statewide efforts.
Current Member Groups
Visit our Member Group Page for more information on each group listed below.
Senate Committee on Human Service, Mental Health and Recovery
Senate Committee on Judiciary and Ballot Measure 110
House Committee on Behavioral Health
Governor’s Behavioral Health Committees
Chief Justice’s Behavioral Health Advisory Committee
IMPACTS Grant Program
Legislative Workgroup to Decriminalize Mental Illness
Legislative Workgroup on Ballot Measure 110
Measure 110 Oversight and Accountability Council
988 Crisis Line Implementation Workgroup
GAINS Regional Behavioral Health Resource Centers Workgroup
SB 24 Implementation Workgroup
Psychiatric Security Review Board Workgroup
Oregon Center on Behavioral Health and Justice Integration Steering Committee
Forensic Evaluation Certification Workgroup
Behavioral Health Emergency Coordination Network (BHECN)
https://www.courts.oregon.gov/programs/BHLeadership/Pages/default.aspx
TB
Well, damn. With all those ballot measures, committees, workgroups,
and councils all laser-focused on 'doing something' - with no doubt
each bunch consisting of Experts in their fields - y'all should
literally have some efficacious solutions by the end of the week going forward.
And so, look, in that context, I allege that I think I see a
broad-based windfall in y'all's future out there. Once the fascists
hidden among you get the legal authority to start involuntarily
committing people to 'health care facilities' for their own good, all
sorts of new opportunities will open up for lawyers, medical
professionals, health care specialists, social workers, building construction workers, admin people, cooks, janitorial services,
plumbers, electricians, burly drivers to compassionately pluck 'em off
the streets, and who knows who else. You might even be able to cadge a
bunch of money from Build Back Better and not have to raise taxes (you
might also be able to divert some of that money to build that bridge).
You could also end up with the lowest unemployment in the whole nation.
And a word of unsolicited advice: When y'all start promoting all those solutions that I'm confident that you'll develop, don't forget to
insert "humanitarian crisis" and "Number One Priority" in every
paragraph that can reasonably hold one or both. Lotta power and
inherent momentum in those phrases, you know.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 9:16:43 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:"Oregon's process for forced mental health treatment could eventually
Technobarbarian wrote:
"Portland mayor suggests easing process to involuntarily commit
people with mental health struggles"
Speaking of jokes. Even if they did this they don't have
anywhere to put those people or staff to take care of them. The
state's mental health system is already overloaded. No one has
even looked at the price tag for this yet. Our judicial system
is looking at the problem. They figure it will take two years
to come up with an answer for the legal issues. I think that's
probably very optimistic. They might have figured out an answer
for the financial issues by than, but I doubt that too.
"Portland mayor suggests easing process to involuntarily commit
people with mental health struggles"
"Oregon has long made it difficult to force people to get
mental health treatment. But as homelessness worsens, there are
growing calls to loosen those laws.
Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler wants it to be easier to force
people living on the streets into hospitals  even if
they have not committed a crime.
“When I see people walking through the elements without
appropriate attire, often naked, they are freezing to death,
they are exposed to the elements … I don’t even
know if they know where they are or who they are,†Wheeler
told a room full of business owners recently, “They need
help and they need compassion.
Wheeler’s comments came at a meeting to discuss crime
in Portland’s Central Eastside. The mayor held the forum >>> after the owner of Portland’s well-known ice cream brand >>> Salt & Straw threatened to leave the city and amid his own
effort to get tougher on public camping. He was asked directly
at the forum whether he would support hospitalizing more people
involuntarily.
Wheeler prepped the audience, saying he would be
“resoundingly excoriated†for his comments."â€
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/12/12/portland-mayor-ted-wheeler-suggests-easing-process-involuntarily-commit-mentally-ill/
Get a load of this list:see changes
With rising pressure to improve care for people with mental
illness who deny treatment, a mixed group of state leaders are
looking at changing state laws.
PORTLAND, Ore.  A group of Oregon leaders  from
judges to doctors to mental health experts  are working >>> to overhaul state standards for civil commitment and forced
mental health care amid calls for change.
The Oregon Judicial Department convened the group of 21
panelists, called the "Commitment to Change Workgroup." It
started meeting this fall, and the panelists plan to meet each
month for the next two years.
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/uncommitted-oregon-mental-illness-forced-care-changes/283-04d59004-91f3-45ba-901a-aad8c64a9762
TB
Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
PROGRAMS AND COMMITTEES Behavioral Health/Justice System
Leadership Coordination
The Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
Committee is hosted by the Oregon Judicial Department and
brings together the leaders of multi-stakeholder committees,
councils, and workgroups working on issues at the intersection
of Oregon’s behavioral health and justice systems to
ensure collaboration and consistency of statewide efforts.
Current Member Groups Visit our Member Group Page for more
information on each group listed below.
Senate Committee on Human Service, Mental Health and Recovery
Senate Committee on Judiciary and Ballot Measure 110 House
Committee on Behavioral Health Governor’s Behavioral
Health Committees Chief Justice’s Behavioral Health
Advisory Committee IMPACTS Grant Program Legislative Workgroup
to Decriminalize Mental Illness Legislative Workgroup on Ballot
Measure 110 Measure 110 Oversight and Accountability Council
988 Crisis Line Implementation Workgroup GAINS Regional
Behavioral Health Resource Centers Workgroup SB 24
Implementation Workgroup Psychiatric Security Review Board
Workgroup Oregon Center on Behavioral Health and Justice
Integration Steering Committee Forensic Evaluation
Certification Workgroup Behavioral Health Emergency
Coordination Network (BHECN)
https://www.courts.oregon.gov/programs/BHLeadership/Pages/default.aspx
Well, damn. With all those ballot measures, committees,
workgroups, and councils all laser-focused on 'doing something' -
with no doubt each bunch consisting of Experts in their fields -
y'all should literally have some efficacious solutions by the end
of the week going forward.
And so, look, in that context, I allege that I think I see a
broad-based windfall in y'all's future out there. Once the
fascists hidden among you get the legal authority to start
involuntarily committing people to 'health care facilities' for
their own good, all sorts of new opportunities will open up for
lawyers, medical professionals, health care specialists, social
workers, building construction workers, admin people, cooks,
janitorial services, plumbers, electricians, burly drivers to
compassionately pluck 'em off the streets, and who knows who
else. You might even be able to cadge a bunch of money from Build
Back Better and not have to raise taxes (you might also be able
to divert some of that money to build that bridge). You could
also end up with the lowest unemployment in the whole nation.
And a word of unsolicited advice: When y'all start promoting all
those solutions that I'm confident that you'll develop, don't
forget to insert "humanitarian crisis" and "Number One Priority"
in every paragraph that can reasonably hold one or both. Lotta
power and inherent momentum in those phrases, you know.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
I can see it all now so clearly... Eventually it will be a "closed
system", where part of the population will have "control" over
those who don't act the correct way... HawHawHaw!
Ed Koch
film...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 9:16:43 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:"Oregon's process for forced mental health treatment could eventually
Technobarbarian wrote:
"Portland mayor suggests easing process to involuntarily commit
people with mental health struggles"
Speaking of jokes. Even if they did this they don't have
anywhere to put those people or staff to take care of them. The
state's mental health system is already overloaded. No one has
even looked at the price tag for this yet. Our judicial system
is looking at the problem. They figure it will take two years
to come up with an answer for the legal issues. I think that's
probably very optimistic. They might have figured out an answer
for the financial issues by than, but I doubt that too.
"Portland mayor suggests easing process to involuntarily commit
people with mental health struggles"
"Oregon has long made it difficult to force people to get
mental health treatment. But as homelessness worsens, there are
growing calls to loosen those laws.
Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler wants it to be easier to force
people living on the streets into hospitals  even if >>>> they have not committed a crime.
“When I see people walking through the elements without >>>> appropriate attire, often naked, they are freezing to death,
they are exposed to the elements … I don’t even
know if they know where they are or who they are,†Wheeler
told a room full of business owners recently, “They need >>>> help and they need compassion.
Wheeler’s comments came at a meeting to discuss crime >>>> in Portland’s Central Eastside. The mayor held the forum >>>> after the owner of Portland’s well-known ice cream brand >>>> Salt & Straw threatened to leave the city and amid his own
effort to get tougher on public camping. He was asked directly
at the forum whether he would support hospitalizing more people
involuntarily.
Wheeler prepped the audience, saying he would be
“resoundingly excoriated†for his comments."â€
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/12/12/portland-mayor-ted-wheeler-suggests-easing-process-involuntarily-commit-mentally-ill/
Get a load of this list:see changes
With rising pressure to improve care for people with mental
illness who deny treatment, a mixed group of state leaders are
looking at changing state laws.
PORTLAND, Ore.  A group of Oregon leaders  from
judges to doctors to mental health experts  are working >>>> to overhaul state standards for civil commitment and forced
mental health care amid calls for change.
The Oregon Judicial Department convened the group of 21
panelists, called the "Commitment to Change Workgroup." It
started meeting this fall, and the panelists plan to meet each
month for the next two years.
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/uncommitted-oregon-mental-illness-forced-care-changes/283-04d59004-91f3-45ba-901a-aad8c64a9762
TB
Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination PROGRAMS
AND COMMITTEES Behavioral Health/Justice System
Leadership Coordination
The Behavioral Health/Justice System Leadership Coordination
Committee is hosted by the Oregon Judicial Department and
brings together the leaders of multi-stakeholder committees,
councils, and workgroups working on issues at the intersection
of Oregon’s behavioral health and justice systems to
ensure collaboration and consistency of statewide efforts.
Current Member Groups Visit our Member Group Page for more
information on each group listed below.
Senate Committee on Human Service, Mental Health and Recovery Senate
Committee on Judiciary and Ballot Measure 110 House
Committee on Behavioral Health Governor’s Behavioral
Health Committees Chief Justice’s Behavioral Health
Advisory Committee IMPACTS Grant Program Legislative Workgroup
to Decriminalize Mental Illness Legislative Workgroup on Ballot
Measure 110 Measure 110 Oversight and Accountability Council 988
Crisis Line Implementation Workgroup GAINS Regional
Behavioral Health Resource Centers Workgroup SB 24
Implementation Workgroup Psychiatric Security Review Board
Workgroup Oregon Center on Behavioral Health and Justice
Integration Steering Committee Forensic Evaluation
Certification Workgroup Behavioral Health Emergency
Coordination Network (BHECN)
https://www.courts.oregon.gov/programs/BHLeadership/Pages/default.aspx >>>>
Well, damn. With all those ballot measures, committees,
workgroups, and councils all laser-focused on 'doing something' -
with no doubt each bunch consisting of Experts in their fields -
y'all should literally have some efficacious solutions by the end
of the week going forward.
And so, look, in that context, I allege that I think I see a
broad-based windfall in y'all's future out there. Once the
fascists hidden among you get the legal authority to start
involuntarily committing people to 'health care facilities' for
their own good, all sorts of new opportunities will open up for
lawyers, medical professionals, health care specialists, social
workers, building construction workers, admin people, cooks,
janitorial services, plumbers, electricians, burly drivers to
compassionately pluck 'em off the streets, and who knows who
else. You might even be able to cadge a bunch of money from Build
Back Better and not have to raise taxes (you might also be able
to divert some of that money to build that bridge). You could
also end up with the lowest unemployment in the whole nation.
And a word of unsolicited advice: When y'all start promoting all
those solutions that I'm confident that you'll develop, don't
forget to insert "humanitarian crisis" and "Number One Priority"
in every paragraph that can reasonably hold one or both. Lotta
power and inherent momentum in those phrases, you know.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
I can see it all now so clearly... Eventually it will be a "closed
system", where part of the population will have "control" over
those who don't act the correct way... HawHawHaw!
Ed Koch
At the end of the day going forward, I think you literally may be right. That's pretty much the end result of "involuntary commitment". Then
there's NYC - but not currently Ed Koch - that wants to give this
authority to social workers, hospitals, and first responders. ----------------------------------------------------------
The mayor’s directive marks the latest attempt to ease a crisis decades
in the making. It would give outreach workers, city hospitals and first responders, including police, discretion to involuntarily hospitalize
anyone they deem a danger to themselves or unable to care for themselves. ---------------------------------------------------------- https://www.kgw.com/article/news/nation-world/new-york-city-mentally-ill-hospitalization/507-6d76b220-1bd8-4634-8ded-4c6723de175e
Read the above again, look up the definition of "deem", and consider
who's authorized to do the deeming of "danger to themselves".
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