I grew up in that area. I've driven past Darkey creek road many
times and may have been on it a time or two. I had never thought much
about it and I had never heard anything about Mr. Southworth before.
Back then Waldport was just about exclusively white and the whole county
didn't have much color of any sort, outside of the Siletz reservation.

"Born a slave, Southworth pioneered Lincoln County"

Kenneth Lipp Nov 16, 2022

"Louis Southworth came to Oregon a slave, died a respected fixture in
his community and is now memorialized in Waldport.

Southworth took his surname from his enslaver, James Southworth, who
brought Louis with him on the Oregon Trail in 1853, when Louis was in
his early 20s (some accounts have him born in Tennessee in 1829, others
in the same state in 1830).

According to the Oregon Historical Society’s Oregon Encyclopedia,
“Before long, James Southworth, along with his family and Louis
Southworth, left Oregon for California to try his hand at gold mining.
Louis Southworth soon found that he could make more money playing his
violin for dance schools, and by 1858, he had raised $1,000 (equivalent
to $23,000 in 2009), enough money to purchase his freedom.”

Sometime during the intervening years (1854-57), Southworth is believed
to have fought in the Oregon Militia, participating in skirmishes
against Indigenous bands during the Rogue River Indian Wars in southern
Oregon. He reportedly joined the fighting unit under the command of Col.
John Kelsay to avoid surrendering his rifle to soldiers during a chance encounter, and though his name is not included in the militia’s rolls, according to Charles H. Carey’s “General History of Oregon,” Southworth was wounded during in a clash during either March or April of 1856."
[snip]

https://www.newportnewstimes.com/news/born-a-slave-southworth-pioneered-lincoln-county/article_007c645a-6511-11ed-a5f1-6394411282d2.html

If you look closely at Google maps you can still find Forest
Service road 3489 listed as E. Darkey creek road. There is a nearby
Freeman creek that is probably also a reference to Louis Southworth. The
Drift creek Landing has been there for a long time. It looks like there
is also an RV park on what was once Mr. Southworth's land.

I particularly enjoyed his disagreement with the Baptist church
over his fiddle.

TB

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Technobarbarian <technobarbarian-ztopzpam@gmail.com> wrote:

I grew up in that area. I've driven past Darkey creek road many
times and may have been on it a time or two. I had never thought much
about it and I had never heard anything about Mr. Southworth before.
Back then Waldport was just about exclusively white and the whole county didn't have much color of any sort, outside of the Siletz reservation.

"Born a slave, Southworth pioneered Lincoln County"

Kenneth Lipp Nov 16, 2022

"Louis Southworth came to Oregon a slave, died a respected fixture in
his community and is now memorialized in Waldport.

Southworth took his surname from his enslaver, James Southworth, who
brought Louis with him on the Oregon Trail in 1853, when Louis was in
his early 20s (some accounts have him born in Tennessee in 1829, others
in the same state in 1830).

According to the Oregon Historical Society’s Oregon Encyclopedia,
“Before long, James Southworth, along with his family and Louis
Southworth, left Oregon for California to try his hand at gold mining.
Louis Southworth soon found that he could make more money playing his
violin for dance schools, and by 1858, he had raised $1,000 (equivalent
to $23,000 in 2009), enough money to purchase his freedom.”

Sometime during the intervening years (1854-57), Southworth is believed
to have fought in the Oregon Militia, participating in skirmishes
against Indigenous bands during the Rogue River Indian Wars in southern Oregon. He reportedly joined the fighting unit under the command of Col.
John Kelsay to avoid surrendering his rifle to soldiers during a chance encounter, and though his name is not included in the militia’s rolls, according to Charles H. Carey’s “General History of Oregon,” Southworth was wounded during in a clash during either March or April of 1856."
[snip]

https://www.newportnewstimes.com/news/born-a-slave-southworth-pioneered-lincoln-county/article_007c645a-6511-11ed-a5f1-6394411282d2.html

If you look closely at Google maps you can still find Forest
Service road 3489 listed as E. Darkey creek road. There is a nearby
Freeman creek that is probably also a reference to Louis Southworth. The Drift creek Landing has been there for a long time. It looks like there
is also an RV park on what was once Mr. Southworth's land.

I particularly enjoyed his disagreement with the Baptist church
over his fiddle.

TB

To quote He of Many Monikers… yawn.

--
"I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly
wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white
racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms…" - Tulsi Gabbard

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George.Anthony wrote:

Technobarbarian <technobarbarian-ztopzpam@gmail.com> wrote:

I grew up in that area. I've driven past Darkey creek road many
times and may have been on it a time or two. I had never thought much
about it and I had never heard anything about Mr. Southworth before.
Back then Waldport was just about exclusively white and the whole county
didn't have much color of any sort, outside of the Siletz reservation.

"Born a slave, Southworth pioneered Lincoln County"

Kenneth Lipp Nov 16, 2022

"Louis Southworth came to Oregon a slave, died a respected fixture in
his community and is now memorialized in Waldport.

Southworth took his surname from his enslaver, James Southworth, who
brought Louis with him on the Oregon Trail in 1853, when Louis was in
his early 20s (some accounts have him born in Tennessee in 1829, others
in the same state in 1830).

According to the Oregon Historical Society’s Oregon Encyclopedia,
“Before long, James Southworth, along with his family and Louis
Southworth, left Oregon for California to try his hand at gold mining.
Louis Southworth soon found that he could make more money playing his
violin for dance schools, and by 1858, he had raised $1,000 (equivalent
to $23,000 in 2009), enough money to purchase his freedom.”

Sometime during the intervening years (1854-57), Southworth is believed
to have fought in the Oregon Militia, participating in skirmishes
against Indigenous bands during the Rogue River Indian Wars in southern
Oregon. He reportedly joined the fighting unit under the command of Col.
John Kelsay to avoid surrendering his rifle to soldiers during a chance
encounter, and though his name is not included in the militia’s rolls,
according to Charles H. Carey’s “General History of Oregon,” Southworth
was wounded during in a clash during either March or April of 1856."
[snip]

https://www.newportnewstimes.com/news/born-a-slave-southworth-pioneered-lincoln-county/article_007c645a-6511-11ed-a5f1-6394411282d2.html

If you look closely at Google maps you can still find Forest
Service road 3489 listed as E. Darkey creek road. There is a nearby
Freeman creek that is probably also a reference to Louis Southworth. The
Drift creek Landing has been there for a long time. It looks like there
is also an RV park on what was once Mr. Southworth's land.

I particularly enjoyed his disagreement with the Baptist church
over his fiddle.

TB

To quote He of Many Monikers… yawn.

Yawn?! Watchoo mean, yawn? At the end of the day going forward, the
name of that creek must literally be changed, and somebody must be
held accountable. There's no telling how many people have been
rendered uncomfortable by hearing or seeing the name of that creek or
road. For a statistically significant portion of the chronic woke, it
probably even induced transitory cognitive paralysis.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:32:06 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:

George.Anthony wrote:

Technobarbarian <technobarbar...@gmail.com> wrote:

I grew up in that area. I've driven past Darkey creek road many
times and may have been on it a time or two. I had never thought much
about it and I had never heard anything about Mr. Southworth before.
Back then Waldport was just about exclusively white and the whole county >> didn't have much color of any sort, outside of the Siletz reservation.

"Born a slave, Southworth pioneered Lincoln County"

Kenneth Lipp Nov 16, 2022

"Louis Southworth came to Oregon a slave, died a respected fixture in
his community and is now memorialized in Waldport.

Southworth took his surname from his enslaver, James Southworth, who
brought Louis with him on the Oregon Trail in 1853, when Louis was in
his early 20s (some accounts have him born in Tennessee in 1829, others >> in the same state in 1830).

According to the Oregon Historical Society’s Oregon Encyclopedia, >> “Before long, James Southworth, along with his family and Louis
Southworth, left Oregon for California to try his hand at gold mining.
Louis Southworth soon found that he could make more money playing his
violin for dance schools, and by 1858, he had raised $1,000 (equivalent
to $23,000 in 2009), enough money to purchase his freedom.â€

Sometime during the intervening years (1854-57), Southworth is believed >> to have fought in the Oregon Militia, participating in skirmishes
against Indigenous bands during the Rogue River Indian Wars in southern >> Oregon. He reportedly joined the fighting unit under the command of Col. >> John Kelsay to avoid surrendering his rifle to soldiers during a chance
encounter, and though his name is not included in the militia’s rolls,
according to Charles H. Carey’s “General History of Oregon,†Southworth
was wounded during in a clash during either March or April of 1856."
[snip]

https://www.newportnewstimes.com/news/born-a-slave-southworth-pioneered-lincoln-county/article_007c645a-6511-11ed-a5f1-6394411282d2.html

If you look closely at Google maps you can still find Forest
Service road 3489 listed as E. Darkey creek road. There is a nearby
Freeman creek that is probably also a reference to Louis Southworth. The >> Drift creek Landing has been there for a long time. It looks like there >> is also an RV park on what was once Mr. Southworth's land.

I particularly enjoyed his disagreement with the Baptist church
over his fiddle.

TB

To quote He of Many Monikers… yawn.

Yawn?! Watchoo mean, yawn? At the end of the day going forward, the
name of that creek must literally be changed, and somebody must be
held accountable. There's no telling how many people have been
rendered uncomfortable by hearing or seeing the name of that creek or
road. For a statistically significant portion of the chronic woke, it probably even induced transitory cognitive paralysis.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

Despite the generations of offendees who are, and were, "rendered uncomfortable", by the slur named creek... I think all but the most paranoid will survive without too much inner-trauma... After all, it's just a creek, not some high tone resort,
where the white privileged class meet, to amuse themselves... I'm surprised that our one lone black person, didn't want the name changed to "Southworth Creek"? It would make a fantastic "photo op" for all concerned, and show that white folks, are
actually becoming more sensitive to changing times....

Wm. Jennings Bryant Jr.

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On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 10:58:01 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony wrote:

Technobarbarian <technobarbar...@gmail.com> wrote:

I grew up in that area. I've driven past Darkey creek road many
times and may have been on it a time or two. I had never thought much about it and I had never heard anything about Mr. Southworth before.
Back then Waldport was just about exclusively white and the whole county didn't have much color of any sort, outside of the Siletz reservation.

"Born a slave, Southworth pioneered Lincoln County"

Kenneth Lipp Nov 16, 2022

"Louis Southworth came to Oregon a slave, died a respected fixture in
his community and is now memorialized in Waldport.

Southworth took his surname from his enslaver, James Southworth, who brought Louis with him on the Oregon Trail in 1853, when Louis was in
his early 20s (some accounts have him born in Tennessee in 1829, others
in the same state in 1830).

According to the Oregon Historical Society’s Oregon Encyclopedia, “Before long, James Southworth, along with his family and Louis Southworth, left Oregon for California to try his hand at gold mining. Louis Southworth soon found that he could make more money playing his violin for dance schools, and by 1858, he had raised $1,000 (equivalent
to $23,000 in 2009), enough money to purchase his freedom.”

Sometime during the intervening years (1854-57), Southworth is believed
to have fought in the Oregon Militia, participating in skirmishes
against Indigenous bands during the Rogue River Indian Wars in southern Oregon. He reportedly joined the fighting unit under the command of Col. John Kelsay to avoid surrendering his rifle to soldiers during a chance encounter, and though his name is not included in the militia’s rolls, according to Charles H. Carey’s “General History of Oregon,” Southworth
was wounded during in a clash during either March or April of 1856." [snip]

https://www.newportnewstimes.com/news/born-a-slave-southworth-pioneered-lincoln-county/article_007c645a-6511-11ed-a5f1-6394411282d2.html

If you look closely at Google maps you can still find Forest
Service road 3489 listed as E. Darkey creek road. There is a nearby Freeman creek that is probably also a reference to Louis Southworth. The Drift creek Landing has been there for a long time. It looks like there
is also an RV park on what was once Mr. Southworth's land.

I particularly enjoyed his disagreement with the Baptist church
over his fiddle.

TB

To quote He of Many Monikers… yawn.

--
"I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms…" - Tulsi Gabbard

As a proud African-American, you ought to applaud Mr. Southworth's pulling himself up by his bootstraps, to a modicum of respectability! Minorities should honor past, present, and future members of their group! Of Course, you probably don't like
basketball, and can't dance worth a tinkers curse, either! HawHawHaw!

Harriet Beecher Stowe Jr.

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film...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:32:06 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:

George.Anthony wrote:

Technobarbarian <technobarbar...@gmail.com> wrote:

I grew up in that area. I've driven past Darkey creek road
many times and may have been on it a time or two. I had never
thought much about it and I had never heard anything about
Mr. Southworth before. Back then Waldport was just about
exclusively white and the whole county didn't have much color
of any sort, outside of the Siletz reservation.

"Born a slave, Southworth pioneered Lincoln County"

Kenneth Lipp Nov 16, 2022

"Louis Southworth came to Oregon a slave, died a respected
fixture in his community and is now memorialized in
Waldport.

Southworth took his surname from his enslaver, James
Southworth, who brought Louis with him on the Oregon Trail in
1853, when Louis was in his early 20s (some accounts have him
born in Tennessee in 1829, others in the same state in
1830).

According to the Oregon Historical Society’s Oregon
Encyclopedia, “Before long, James Southworth, along
with his family and Louis Southworth, left Oregon for
California to try his hand at gold mining. Louis Southworth
soon found that he could make more money playing his violin
for dance schools, and by 1858, he had raised $1,000
(equivalent to $23,000 in 2009), enough money to purchase his
freedom.â€

Sometime during the intervening years (1854-57), Southworth
is believed to have fought in the Oregon Militia,
participating in skirmishes against Indigenous bands during
the Rogue River Indian Wars in southern Oregon. He reportedly
joined the fighting unit under the command of Col. John
Kelsay to avoid surrendering his rifle to soldiers during a
chance encounter, and though his name is not included in the
militia’s rolls, according to Charles H.
Carey’s “General History of Oregon,â€
Southworth was wounded during in a clash during either March
or April of 1856." [snip]

https://www.newportnewstimes.com/news/born-a-slave-southworth-pioneered-lincoln-county/article_007c645a-6511-11ed-a5f1-6394411282d2.html

If you look closely at Google maps you can still find Forest

Service road 3489 listed as E. Darkey creek road. There is a
nearby Freeman creek that is probably also a reference to
Louis Southworth. The Drift creek Landing has been there for
a long time. It looks like there is also an RV park on what
was once Mr. Southworth's land.

I particularly enjoyed his disagreement with the Baptist
church over his fiddle.

TB

To quote He of Many Monikers… yawn.

Yawn?! Watchoo mean, yawn? At the end of the day going forward,
the name of that creek must literally be changed, and somebody
must be held accountable. There's no telling how many people have
been rendered uncomfortable by hearing or seeing the name of that
creek or road. For a statistically significant portion of the
chronic woke, it probably even induced transitory cognitive
paralysis.

-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

Despite the generations of offendees who are, and were, "rendered uncomfortable", by the slur named creek... I think all but the
most paranoid will survive without too much inner-trauma... After
all, it's just a creek, not some high tone resort, where the
white privileged class meet, to amuse themselves... I'm
surprised that our one lone black person, didn't want the name
changed to "Southworth Creek"? It would make a fantastic "photo
op" for all concerned, and show that white folks, are actually
becoming more sensitive to changing times....

The Creek are a tribe originally from GA/AL, and you - as a West Coast
Woker - just unashamedly misappropriated their cultural heritage. At
the end of the day going forward, you should be....ummm.....literally
ashamed, and should be held accountable by somebody.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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film...@gmail.com <filmbydon@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 10:58:01 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony wrote:

Technobarbarian <technobarbar...@gmail.com> wrote:

I grew up in that area. I've driven past Darkey creek road many
times and may have been on it a time or two. I had never thought much
about it and I had never heard anything about Mr. Southworth before.
Back then Waldport was just about exclusively white and the whole county >>> didn't have much color of any sort, outside of the Siletz reservation.

"Born a slave, Southworth pioneered Lincoln County"

Kenneth Lipp Nov 16, 2022

"Louis Southworth came to Oregon a slave, died a respected fixture in
his community and is now memorialized in Waldport.

Southworth took his surname from his enslaver, James Southworth, who
brought Louis with him on the Oregon Trail in 1853, when Louis was in
his early 20s (some accounts have him born in Tennessee in 1829, others
in the same state in 1830).

According to the Oregon Historical Society’s Oregon Encyclopedia,
“Before long, James Southworth, along with his family and Louis
Southworth, left Oregon for California to try his hand at gold mining.
Louis Southworth soon found that he could make more money playing his
violin for dance schools, and by 1858, he had raised $1,000 (equivalent
to $23,000 in 2009), enough money to purchase his freedom.”

Sometime during the intervening years (1854-57), Southworth is believed
to have fought in the Oregon Militia, participating in skirmishes
against Indigenous bands during the Rogue River Indian Wars in southern
Oregon. He reportedly joined the fighting unit under the command of Col. >>> John Kelsay to avoid surrendering his rifle to soldiers during a chance
encounter, and though his name is not included in the militia’s rolls, >>> according to Charles H. Carey’s “General History of Oregon,” Southworth
was wounded during in a clash during either March or April of 1856."
[snip]

https://www.newportnewstimes.com/news/born-a-slave-southworth-pioneered-lincoln-county/article_007c645a-6511-11ed-a5f1-6394411282d2.html


If you look closely at Google maps you can still find Forest
Service road 3489 listed as E. Darkey creek road. There is a nearby
Freeman creek that is probably also a reference to Louis Southworth. The >>> Drift creek Landing has been there for a long time. It looks like there
is also an RV park on what was once Mr. Southworth's land.

I particularly enjoyed his disagreement with the Baptist church
over his fiddle.

TB

To quote He of Many Monikers… yawn.

--
"I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the >> complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly
wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white
racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms…" - Tulsi Gabbard

As a proud African-American, you ought to applaud Mr. Southworth's
pulling himself up by his bootstraps, to a modicum of respectability! Minorities should honor past, present, and future members of their
group! Of Course, you probably don't like basketball, and can't dance worth a tinkers curse, either! HawHawHaw!

Harriet Beecher Stowe Jr.

I still dance a bit but basketball is many rears behind me.

Magic Johnson

--
"I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly
wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white
racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms…" - Tulsi Gabbard

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George.Anthony wrote:

film...@gmail.com <filmbydon@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 10:58:01 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony wrote: >>> Technobarbarian <technobarbar...@gmail.com> wrote:

I grew up in that area. I've driven past Darkey creek road many
times and may have been on it a time or two. I had never thought much
about it and I had never heard anything about Mr. Southworth before.
Back then Waldport was just about exclusively white and the whole county >>>> didn't have much color of any sort, outside of the Siletz reservation. >>>>
"Born a slave, Southworth pioneered Lincoln County"

Kenneth Lipp Nov 16, 2022

"Louis Southworth came to Oregon a slave, died a respected fixture in
his community and is now memorialized in Waldport.

Southworth took his surname from his enslaver, James Southworth, who
brought Louis with him on the Oregon Trail in 1853, when Louis was in
his early 20s (some accounts have him born in Tennessee in 1829, others >>>> in the same state in 1830).

According to the Oregon Historical Society’s Oregon Encyclopedia, >>>> “Before long, James Southworth, along with his family and Louis
Southworth, left Oregon for California to try his hand at gold mining. >>>> Louis Southworth soon found that he could make more money playing his
violin for dance schools, and by 1858, he had raised $1,000 (equivalent >>>> to $23,000 in 2009), enough money to purchase his freedom.”

Sometime during the intervening years (1854-57), Southworth is believed >>>> to have fought in the Oregon Militia, participating in skirmishes
against Indigenous bands during the Rogue River Indian Wars in southern >>>> Oregon. He reportedly joined the fighting unit under the command of Col. >>>> John Kelsay to avoid surrendering his rifle to soldiers during a chance >>>> encounter, and though his name is not included in the militia’s rolls,
according to Charles H. Carey’s “General History of Oregon,” Southworth
was wounded during in a clash during either March or April of 1856."
[snip]

https://www.newportnewstimes.com/news/born-a-slave-southworth-pioneered-lincoln-county/article_007c645a-6511-11ed-a5f1-6394411282d2.html


If you look closely at Google maps you can still find Forest
Service road 3489 listed as E. Darkey creek road. There is a nearby
Freeman creek that is probably also a reference to Louis Southworth. The >>>> Drift creek Landing has been there for a long time. It looks like there >>>> is also an RV park on what was once Mr. Southworth's land.

I particularly enjoyed his disagreement with the Baptist church
over his fiddle.

TB

To quote He of Many Monikers… yawn.

--
"I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the
complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly
wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white
racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms…" - Tulsi Gabbard

As a proud African-American, you ought to applaud Mr. Southworth's
pulling himself up by his bootstraps, to a modicum of respectability!
Minorities should honor past, present, and future members of their
group! Of Course, you probably don't like basketball, and can't dance
worth a tinkers curse, either! HawHawHaw!

Harriet Beecher Stowe Jr.

I still dance a bit but basketball is many rears behind me.

I only sorta tried, but I couldn't bring that picture into focus.
Probably just as well.


--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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On 11/17/2022 4:19 PM, film...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 10:58:01 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony wrote:

Technobarbarian <technobarbar...@gmail.com> wrote:

I grew up in that area. I've driven past Darkey creek road many
times and may have been on it a time or two. I had never thought much
about it and I had never heard anything about Mr. Southworth before.
Back then Waldport was just about exclusively white and the whole county >>> didn't have much color of any sort, outside of the Siletz reservation.

"Born a slave, Southworth pioneered Lincoln County"

Kenneth Lipp Nov 16, 2022

"Louis Southworth came to Oregon a slave, died a respected fixture in
his community and is now memorialized in Waldport.

Southworth took his surname from his enslaver, James Southworth, who
brought Louis with him on the Oregon Trail in 1853, when Louis was in
his early 20s (some accounts have him born in Tennessee in 1829, others
in the same state in 1830).

According to the Oregon Historical Society’s Oregon Encyclopedia,
“Before long, James Southworth, along with his family and Louis
Southworth, left Oregon for California to try his hand at gold mining.
Louis Southworth soon found that he could make more money playing his
violin for dance schools, and by 1858, he had raised $1,000 (equivalent
to $23,000 in 2009), enough money to purchase his freedom.”

Sometime during the intervening years (1854-57), Southworth is believed
to have fought in the Oregon Militia, participating in skirmishes
against Indigenous bands during the Rogue River Indian Wars in southern
Oregon. He reportedly joined the fighting unit under the command of Col. >>> John Kelsay to avoid surrendering his rifle to soldiers during a chance
encounter, and though his name is not included in the militia’s rolls, >>> according to Charles H. Carey’s “General History of Oregon,” Southworth
was wounded during in a clash during either March or April of 1856."
[snip]

https://www.newportnewstimes.com/news/born-a-slave-southworth-pioneered-lincoln-county/article_007c645a-6511-11ed-a5f1-6394411282d2.html

If you look closely at Google maps you can still find Forest
Service road 3489 listed as E. Darkey creek road. There is a nearby
Freeman creek that is probably also a reference to Louis Southworth. The >>> Drift creek Landing has been there for a long time. It looks like there
is also an RV park on what was once Mr. Southworth's land.

I particularly enjoyed his disagreement with the Baptist church
over his fiddle.

TB

To quote He of Many Monikers… yawn.

--
"I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the >> complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly
wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white
racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms…" - Tulsi Gabbard

As a proud African-American, you ought to applaud Mr. Southworth's pulling himself up by his bootstraps, to a modicum of respectability! Minorities should honor past, present, and future members of their group! Of Course, you probably don't like

basketball, and can't dance worth a tinkers curse, either! HawHawHaw!

Harriet Beecher Stowe Jr.

It looks like he pulled himself up by his fiddle strings.

I end up feeling like they're sanitizing history. I think they
should leave some of these names in place to remind folks of the way
things used to be. There's no way to be sure now, but it looks like Mr. Southworth wasn't particularly bothered by the name.

If you look for it you can see all sorts of historical racism.
Depoe Bay is named for a "Siletz" Indian the White people called Depot
Charley. There really weren't any Indians living in Siletz until the
Indians living on the coast were rounded up and forced to live there. If
they want to get rid of the racist connotations they would need to
rename Depoe Bay Tututni, his actual family name.

We ate at a little restaurant on the coast that had a big sticker
on their window that had probably been produced by the local Chamber of Commerce. It said "Tillamook county, celebrating 150 years of
settlement." The unspoken word there is "White" settlement. At one time
there were an estimated 2,200 Tillamook Indians. Between disease and
murder there were only around 200 of them left when they were rounded up
and dumped in Siletz, which was a howling wilderness at that time.
Tillamook has an annual celebration for the arrival of Swiss people in
the area. No one is celebrating the Native Americans, except the Native Americans.

TB

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On 11/17/2022 8:40 PM, bfh wrote:

George.Anthony wrote:

film...@gmail.com <filmbydon@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 10:58:01 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony
wrote:

Technobarbarian <technobarbar...@gmail.com> wrote:

I grew up in that area. I've driven past Darkey creek road many
times and may have been on it a time or two. I had never thought much >>>>> about it and I had never heard anything about Mr. Southworth before. >>>>> Back then Waldport was just about exclusively white and the whole
county
didn't have much color of any sort, outside of the Siletz reservation. >>>>>
"Born a slave, Southworth pioneered Lincoln County"

Kenneth Lipp Nov 16, 2022

"Louis Southworth came to Oregon a slave, died a respected fixture in >>>>> his community and is now memorialized in Waldport.

Southworth took his surname from his enslaver, James Southworth, who >>>>> brought Louis with him on the Oregon Trail in 1853, when Louis was in >>>>> his early 20s (some accounts have him born in Tennessee in 1829,
others
in the same state in 1830).

According to the Oregon Historical Society’s Oregon Encyclopedia, >>>>> “Before long, James Southworth, along with his family and Louis >>>>> Southworth, left Oregon for California to try his hand at gold mining. >>>>> Louis Southworth soon found that he could make more money playing his >>>>> violin for dance schools, and by 1858, he had raised $1,000
(equivalent
to $23,000 in 2009), enough money to purchase his freedom.”

Sometime during the intervening years (1854-57), Southworth is
believed
to have fought in the Oregon Militia, participating in skirmishes
against Indigenous bands during the Rogue River Indian Wars in
southern
Oregon. He reportedly joined the fighting unit under the command of
Col.
John Kelsay to avoid surrendering his rifle to soldiers during a
chance
encounter, and though his name is not included in the militia’s >>>>> rolls,
according to Charles H. Carey’s “General History of Oregon,”
Southworth
was wounded during in a clash during either March or April of 1856." >>>>> [snip]

https://www.newportnewstimes.com/news/born-a-slave-southworth-pioneered-lincoln-county/article_007c645a-6511-11ed-a5f1-6394411282d2.html


If you look closely at Google maps you can still find Forest
Service road 3489 listed as E. Darkey creek road. There is a nearby
Freeman creek that is probably also a reference to Louis
Southworth. The
Drift creek Landing has been there for a long time. It looks like
there
is also an RV park on what was once Mr. Southworth's land.

I particularly enjoyed his disagreement with the Baptist church
over his fiddle.

TB

To quote He of Many Monikers… yawn.

--
"I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now >>>> under the
complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly
wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white
racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms…" -
Tulsi Gabbard

As a proud African-American,  you ought to applaud Mr. Southworth's
pulling himself up by his bootstraps,  to a modicum of respectability!
Minorities should honor past,  present, and future members of their
group!  Of Course,  you probably don't like basketball,  and can't dance >>> worth a tinkers curse,  either!   HawHawHaw!

Harriet Beecher Stowe Jr.

I still dance a bit but basketball is many rears behind me.

I only sorta tried, but I couldn't bring that picture into focus.
Probably just as well.

Yeah, the old fat fingers typo strikes again.
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