• 5 Reasons

    From kmiller@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 31 19:29:05 2022
    And, there is surely more:

    5 reasons Donald Trump really doesn’t want his tax returns released

    Trump broke with recent tradition for presidents and presidential
    candidates by refusing to release his past tax records, insisting that
    he was under audit and therefore could not release the returns. He can
    release them even while he’s under audit. He has also repeatedly
    insisted that tax returns provide little financial information. (This is
    also not true.)

    Trump’s repeated attempts to keep his tax returns private – over years – begs the simple question: Why? And there are several potential reasons
    that jump to mind:

    1) Trump may not be as rich as he says he is. Not long after Trump
    launched his presidential campaign in 2015, he said he was worth upwards
    of $10 billion. Forbes estimated his net worth was less than half that
    that year. Trump appears to use outlandishly elevated claims of his
    wealth as proof positive he is smarter (and better) than most people.
    It’s uniquely possible that a release of his tax returns would take the
    air out of a balloon that Trump has been blowing up for much of his
    adult life.

    2) He may not pay (or hasn’t paid) his fair share of taxes, despite his claims that he pays “a lot.” We know, thanks to reporting from The New
    York Times, that Trump paid zero federal taxes in 11 of the 18 years of
    returns that the publication was able to obtain. And even in 2017, his
    first year as president, Trump paid just $750 in federal taxes – a
    paltry sum for someone as wealthy as he is. The Times estimated that
    “Trump has paid about $400 million less in combined federal income taxes
    than a very wealthy person who paid the average for that group each year.”

    3) The $73 million refund. We learned from the Times’ reporting that
    Trump applied for a $72.9 million tax refund in 2010. (He claimed large
    losses that were widely attributed at the time to the decline of his
    Atlantic City casinos.) The Internal Revenue Service started its audit
    of the refund in 2011, which was still ongoing as of 2020. It’s uniquely possible that Trump simply doesn’t want to have the refund issue brought
    back up, for fear he might be on the hook for the amount.

    4) Trump may have loans with foreign countries or individuals. We know,
    via congressional testimony from former Trump confidante Michael Cohen,
    that the former president was deeply involved in the potential
    construction of Trump Tower Moscow. And that Cohen lied about that
    involvement (and how long it stretched) to protect Trump. Donald Trump
    Jr. reportedly said at a 2008 real estate conference: “In terms of
    high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty
    disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. Say, in Dubai,
    and certainly with our project in SoHo, and anywhere in New York. We see
    a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

    5) He might not donate much (or anything) to charity. Trump long used
    his charitable organization to feather his own nest and collect
    political chits rather than for any philanthropic purposes. (Trump shut
    down the charity in 2018.) It’s not at all clear how generous (if at
    all) Trump has been to other charities over the past few decades. While
    there is no requirement for wealthy individuals to make large charitable donations, many do. And so, it would be a decidedly bad look for Trump
    if it looked like his repeated claims of largesse donated to charity
    wound up being false.

    Whatever the reason – or reasons – it’s been clear for the last seven years that Trump is absolutely dead set on keeping his returns private.
    Which makes me wonder what he is hiding – still.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/31/politics/donald-trump-tax-returns/index.html

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Mon Oct 31 23:58:47 2022
    kmiller wrote:
    And, there is surely more:

    5 reasons Donald Trump really doesn’t want his tax returns released

    Trump broke with recent tradition for presidents and presidential
    candidates by refusing to release his past tax records, insisting that
    he was under audit and therefore could not release the returns. He can release them even while he’s under audit. He has also repeatedly insisted that tax returns provide little financial information. (This
    is also not true.)

    Trump’s repeated attempts to keep his tax returns private – over
    years – begs the simple question: Why? And there are several potential reasons that jump to mind:

    1) Trump may not be as rich as he says he is. Not long after Trump
    launched his presidential campaign in 2015, he said he was worth
    upwards of $10 billion. Forbes estimated his net worth was less than
    half that that year. Trump appears to use outlandishly elevated claims
    of his wealth as proof positive he is smarter (and better) than most
    people. It’s uniquely possible that a release of his tax returns would take the air out of a balloon that Trump has been blowing up for
    much of his adult life.

    2) He may not pay (or hasn’t paid) his fair share of taxes, despite his claims that he pays “a lot.” We know, thanks to reporting from
    The New York Times, that Trump paid zero federal taxes in 11 of the 18
    years of returns that the publication was able to obtain. And even in
    2017, his first year as president, Trump paid just $750 in federal
    taxes – a paltry sum for someone as wealthy as he is. The Times estimated that “Trump has paid about $400 million less in combined federal income taxes than a very wealthy person who paid the average
    for that group each year.”

    3) The $73 million refund. We learned from the Times’ reporting that Trump applied for a $72.9 million tax refund in 2010. (He claimed
    large losses that were widely attributed at the time to the decline of
    his Atlantic City casinos.) The Internal Revenue Service started its
    audit of the refund in 2011, which was still ongoing as of 2020.
    It’s uniquely possible that Trump simply doesn’t want to have the
    refund issue brought back up, for fear he might be on the hook for the amount.

    4) Trump may have loans with foreign countries or individuals. We
    know, via congressional testimony from former Trump confidante Michael
    Cohen, that the former president was deeply involved in the potential construction of Trump Tower Moscow. And that Cohen lied about that involvement (and how long it stretched) to protect Trump. Donald Trump
    Jr. reportedly said at a 2008 real estate conference: “In terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. Say, in Dubai,
    and certainly with our project in SoHo, and anywhere in New York. We
    see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

    5) He might not donate much (or anything) to charity. Trump long used
    his charitable organization to feather his own nest and collect
    political chits rather than for any philanthropic purposes. (Trump
    shut down the charity in 2018.) It’s not at all clear how generous (if at all) Trump has been to other charities over the past few
    decades. While there is no requirement for wealthy individuals to make
    large charitable donations, many do. And so, it would be a decidedly
    bad look for Trump if it looked like his repeated claims of largesse
    donated to charity wound up being false.

    Whatever the reason – or reasons – it’s been clear for the last
    seven years that Trump is absolutely dead set on keeping his returns private. Which makes me wonder what he is hiding – still.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/31/politics/donald-trump-tax-returns/index.html

    LOL plus 3 Haws. I love it. I just bygod love it.
    potential
    may not be
    appears to use
    It's uniquely possible
    may not pay
    may have
    might not

    When are you guys going to get some Real Spaghetti with efficacious ingredients like is, does, and did, instead of that stuff that's all
    calories and no protein like potential, may, appears, possible, and might?

    And just to help my general store of knowledge, how is something
    "uniquely" possible?

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  • From Jerry@21:1/5 to bfh on Tue Nov 1 05:23:15 2022
    On Mon, 31 Oct 2022 23:58:47 -0400, bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:

    LOL plus 3 Haws. I love it. I just bygod love it.
    potential
    may not be
    appears to use
    It's uniquely possible
    may not pay
    may have
    might not

    When are you guys going to get some Real Spaghetti with efficacious >ingredients like is, does, and did, instead of that stuff that's all
    calories and no protein like potential, may, appears, possible, and might?

    And just to help my general store of knowledge, how is something
    "uniquely" possible?

    Trump lives rent free in the head of every democrat. They don't want to
    evict him - they like it - it gives them something to bitch about and
    keeps their mind off Brandon. It is easy to understand their attitude -
    they voted for Brandon and he has been such a roaring success. Gas is
    down from over $5/gal when he took office to only around $3.37.gal now.

    If I had a nickel for every lie that imbecile has told in the last three
    years I could buy a new Saw Stop cabinet saw and still have money in my
    pocket.

    Democrats are low-rez thinkers and it is not surprising that they would
    vote for a village idiot to lead them. Unfortunately, for the rest of
    us, Brandon's dumpster fire has turned into a real goatfuck.

    The Dems know that they screwed up - but in their feeble mind - "Hey,
    he's better than Trump" - and they believe it and ignore the goatfuck..
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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Tue Nov 1 07:05:27 2022
    On 10/31/2022 8:58 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    And, there is surely more:

    5 reasons Donald Trump really doesn’t want his tax returns released >>
    Trump broke with recent tradition for presidents and presidential
    candidates by refusing to release his past tax records, insisting that
    he was under audit and therefore could not release the returns. He can
    release them even while he’s under audit. He has also repeatedly
    insisted that tax returns provide little financial information. (This
    is also not true.)

    Trump’s repeated attempts to keep his tax returns private – over
    years – begs the simple question: Why? And there are several
    potential reasons that jump to mind:

    1) Trump may not be as rich as he says he is. Not long after Trump
    launched his presidential campaign in 2015, he said he was worth
    upwards of $10 billion. Forbes estimated his net worth was less than
    half that that year. Trump appears to use outlandishly elevated claims
    of his wealth as proof positive he is smarter (and better) than most
    people. It’s uniquely possible that a release of his tax returns
    would take the air out of a balloon that Trump has been blowing up for
    much of his adult life.

    2) He may not pay (or hasn’t paid) his fair share of taxes, despite >> his claims that he pays “a lot.” We know, thanks to reporting from
    The New York Times, that Trump paid zero federal taxes in 11 of the 18
    years of returns that the publication was able to obtain. And even in
    2017, his first year as president, Trump paid just $750 in federal
    taxes – a paltry sum for someone as wealthy as he is. The Times
    estimated that “Trump has paid about $400 million less in combined
    federal income taxes than a very wealthy person who paid the average
    for that group each year.”

    3) The $73 million refund. We learned from the Times’ reporting that >> Trump applied for a $72.9 million tax refund in 2010. (He claimed
    large losses that were widely attributed at the time to the decline of
    his Atlantic City casinos.) The Internal Revenue Service started its
    audit of the refund in 2011, which was still ongoing as of 2020.
    It’s uniquely possible that Trump simply doesn’t want to have the
    refund issue brought back up, for fear he might be on the hook for the
    amount.

    4) Trump may have loans with foreign countries or individuals. We
    know, via congressional testimony from former Trump confidante Michael
    Cohen, that the former president was deeply involved in the potential
    construction of Trump Tower Moscow. And that Cohen lied about that
    involvement (and how long it stretched) to protect Trump. Donald Trump
    Jr. reportedly said at a 2008 real estate conference: “In terms of
    high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty
    disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. Say, in Dubai,
    and certainly with our project in SoHo, and anywhere in New York. We
    see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

    5) He might not donate much (or anything) to charity. Trump long used
    his charitable organization to feather his own nest and collect
    political chits rather than for any philanthropic purposes. (Trump
    shut down the charity in 2018.) It’s not at all clear how generous
    (if at all) Trump has been to other charities over the past few
    decades. While there is no requirement for wealthy individuals to make
    large charitable donations, many do. And so, it would be a decidedly
    bad look for Trump if it looked like his repeated claims of largesse
    donated to charity wound up being false.

    Whatever the reason – or reasons – it’s been clear for the last
    seven years that Trump is absolutely dead set on keeping his returns
    private. Which makes me wonder what he is hiding – still.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/31/politics/donald-trump-tax-returns/index.html
    LOL plus 3 Haws. I love it. I just bygod love it.
    potential
    may not be
    appears to use
    It's uniquely possible
    may not pay
    may have
    might not

    When are you guys going to get some Real Spaghetti with efficacious ingredients like is, does, and did, instead of that stuff that's all
    calories and no protein like potential, may, appears, possible, and might?

    And just to help my general store of knowledge, how is something
    "uniquely" possible?

    You had the president who had spoken more lies than any previous
    president in known history. So now he's also got the honor of having the
    most
    spaghetti
    may not bes
    appears to uses
    It's uniquely possibles
    may not pays
    may haves
    might nots
    impeachments
    pussy grabs
    allegeds
    jailed followers
    and
    pending
    legal cases
    than
    any other
    president
    in history?



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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Tue Nov 1 12:40:56 2022
    kmiller wrote:
    On 10/31/2022 8:58 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    And, there is surely more:

    5 reasons Donald Trump really doesn’t want his tax returns
    released

    Trump broke with recent tradition for presidents and presidential
    candidates by refusing to release his past tax records, insisting
    that he was under audit and therefore could not release the
    returns. He can release them even while he’s under audit. He
    has also repeatedly insisted that tax returns provide little
    financial information. (This is also not true.)

    Trump’s repeated attempts to keep his tax returns private >>> – over years – begs the simple question: Why? And
    there are several potential reasons that jump to mind:

    1) Trump may not be as rich as he says he is. Not long after Trump
    launched his presidential campaign in 2015, he said he was worth
    upwards of $10 billion. Forbes estimated his net worth was less
    than half that that year. Trump appears to use outlandishly
    elevated claims of his wealth as proof positive he is smarter (and
    better) than most people. It’s uniquely possible that a >>> release of his tax returns would take the air out of a balloon that
    Trump has been blowing up for much of his adult life.

    2) He may not pay (or hasn’t paid) his fair share of taxes,
    despite his claims that he pays “a lot.” We know,
    thanks to reporting from The New York Times, that Trump paid zero
    federal taxes in 11 of the 18 years of returns that the publication
    was able to obtain. And even in 2017, his first year as president,
    Trump paid just $750 in federal taxes – a paltry sum for >>> someone as wealthy as he is. The Times estimated that “Trump
    has paid about $400 million less in combined federal income taxes
    than a very wealthy person who paid the average for that group
    each year.”

    3) The $73 million refund. We learned from the Times’
    reporting that Trump applied for a $72.9 million tax refund in
    2010. (He claimed large losses that were widely attributed at the
    time to the decline of his Atlantic City casinos.) The Internal
    Revenue Service started its audit of the refund in 2011, which was
    still ongoing as of 2020. It’s uniquely possible that Trump
    simply doesn’t want to have the refund issue brought back >>> up, for fear he might be on the hook for the amount.

    4) Trump may have loans with foreign countries or individuals. We
    know, via congressional testimony from former Trump confidante
    Michael Cohen, that the former president was deeply involved in the
    potential construction of Trump Tower Moscow. And that Cohen lied
    about that involvement (and how long it stretched) to protect
    Trump. Donald Trump Jr. reportedly said at a 2008 real estate
    conference: “In terms of high-end product influx into the US,
    Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot
    of our assets. Say, in Dubai, and certainly with our project in
    SoHo, and anywhere in New York. We see a lot of money pouring in
    from Russia.”

    5) He might not donate much (or anything) to charity. Trump long
    used his charitable organization to feather his own nest and
    collect political chits rather than for any philanthropic purposes.
    (Trump shut down the charity in 2018.) It’s not at all clear
    how generous (if at all) Trump has been to other charities over the
    past few decades. While there is no requirement for wealthy
    individuals to make large charitable donations, many do. And so, it
    would be a decidedly bad look for Trump if it looked like his
    repeated claims of largesse donated to charity wound up being false.

    Whatever the reason – or reasons – it’s been
    clear for the last seven years that Trump is absolutely dead set on
    keeping his returns private. Which makes me wonder what he is
    hiding – still.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/31/politics/donald-trump-tax-returns/index.html

    LOL plus 3 Haws. I love it. I just bygod love it.
    potential
    may not be
    appears to use
    It's uniquely possible
    may not pay
    may have
    might not

    When are you guys going to get some Real Spaghetti with efficacious
    ingredients like is, does, and did, instead of that stuff that's all
    calories and no protein like potential, may, appears, possible, and
    might?

    And just to help my general store of knowledge, how is something
    "uniquely" possible?

    You had the president who had spoken more lies than any previous
    president in known history. So now he's also got the honor of having
    the most
    spaghetti
    may not bes
    appears to uses
    It's uniquely possibles
    may not pays
    may haves
    might nots
    impeachments
    pussy grabs
    allegeds
    jailed followers
    and
    pending
    legal cases
    than
    any other
    president
    in history?

    Another LOL and 3 more Haws. Call me collect when "allegation" gets
    redefined as "convicted".

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to bfh on Tue Nov 1 11:58:32 2022
    On 11/1/2022 11:40 AM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 10/31/2022 8:58 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    And, there is surely more:

    5 reasons Donald Trump really doesn’t want his tax returns
    released

    Trump broke with recent tradition for presidents and presidential
    candidates by refusing to release his past tax records, insisting
    that he was under audit and therefore could not release the returns.
    He can release them even while he’s under audit. He has also
    repeatedly insisted that tax returns provide little financial
    information. (This is also not true.)

    Trump’s repeated attempts to keep his tax returns private >>>> – over years – begs the simple question: Why? And
    there are several potential reasons that jump to mind:

    1) Trump may not be as rich as he says he is. Not long after Trump
    launched his presidential campaign in 2015, he said he was worth
    upwards of $10 billion. Forbes estimated his net worth was less than
    half that that year. Trump appears to use outlandishly elevated
    claims of his wealth as proof positive he is smarter (and better)
    than most people. It’s uniquely possible that a release of
    his tax returns would take the air out of a balloon that Trump has
    been blowing up for much of his adult life.

    2) He may not pay (or hasn’t paid) his fair share of taxes,
    despite his claims that he pays “a lot.” We know, thanks
    to reporting from The New York Times, that Trump paid zero federal
    taxes in 11 of the 18 years of returns that the publication was able
    to obtain. And even in 2017, his first year as president, Trump paid
    just $750 in federal taxes – a paltry sum for someone as >>>> wealthy as he is. The Times estimated that “Trump has paid >>>> about $400 million less in combined federal income taxes than a very
    wealthy person who paid the average for that group each year.”

    3) The $73 million refund. We learned from the Times’ >>>> reporting that Trump applied for a $72.9 million tax refund in 2010.
    (He claimed large losses that were widely attributed at the time to
    the decline of his Atlantic City casinos.) The Internal Revenue
    Service started its audit of the refund in 2011, which was still
    ongoing as of 2020. It’s uniquely possible that Trump simply
    doesn’t want to have the refund issue brought back up, for
    fear he might be on the hook for the amount.

    4) Trump may have loans with foreign countries or individuals. We
    know, via congressional testimony from former Trump confidante
    Michael Cohen, that the former president was deeply involved in the
    potential construction of Trump Tower Moscow. And that Cohen lied
    about that involvement (and how long it stretched) to protect Trump.
    Donald Trump Jr. reportedly said at a 2008 real estate conference:
    “In terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians >>>> make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our
    assets. Say, in Dubai, and certainly with our project in SoHo, and
    anywhere in New York. We see a lot of money pouring in from
    Russia.”

    5) He might not donate much (or anything) to charity. Trump long
    used his charitable organization to feather his own nest and collect
    political chits rather than for any philanthropic purposes. (Trump
    shut down the charity in 2018.) It’s not at all clear how >>>> generous (if at all) Trump has been to other charities over the past
    few decades. While there is no requirement for wealthy individuals
    to make large charitable donations, many do. And so, it would be a
    decidedly bad look for Trump if it looked like his repeated claims
    of largesse donated to charity wound up being false.

    Whatever the reason – or reasons – it’s been
    clear for the last seven years that Trump is absolutely dead set on
    keeping his returns private. Which makes me wonder what he is hiding
    – still.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/31/politics/donald-trump-tax-returns/index.html
    LOL plus 3 Haws. I love it. I just bygod love it.
    potential
    may not be
    appears to use
    It's uniquely possible
    may not pay
    may have
    might not

    When are you guys going to get some Real Spaghetti with efficacious
    ingredients like is, does, and did, instead of that stuff that's all
    calories and no protein like potential, may, appears, possible, and
    might?

    And just to help my general store of knowledge, how is something
    "uniquely" possible?

    You had the president who had spoken more lies than any previous
    president in known history. So now he's also got the honor of having
    the most
    spaghetti
    may not bes
    appears to uses
    It's uniquely possibles
    may not pays
    may haves
    might nots
    impeachments
    pussy grabs
    allegeds
    jailed followers
    and
    pending
    legal cases
    than
    any other
    president
    in history?

    Another LOL and 3 more Haws. Call me collect when "allegation" gets
    redefined as "convicted".

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to "Jerry on Tue Nov 1 11:59:29 2022
    On 11/1/2022 5:23 AM, "Jerry Osage"@osage.com wrote:
    On Mon, 31 Oct 2022 23:58:47 -0400, bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:

    LOL plus 3 Haws. I love it. I just bygod love it.
    potential
    may not be
    appears to use
    It's uniquely possible
    may not pay
    may have
    might not

    When are you guys going to get some Real Spaghetti with efficacious
    ingredients like is, does, and did, instead of that stuff that's all
    calories and no protein like potential, may, appears, possible, and might? >>
    And just to help my general store of knowledge, how is something
    "uniquely" possible?

    Trump lives rent free in the head of every democrat. They don't want to evict him - they like it - it gives them something to bitch about and
    keeps their mind off Brandon. It is easy to understand their attitude -
    they voted for Brandon and he has been such a roaring success. Gas is
    down from over $5/gal when he took office to only around $3.37.gal now.

    If I had a nickel for every lie that imbecile has told in the last three years I could buy a new Saw Stop cabinet saw and still have money in my pocket.

    Democrats are low-rez thinkers and it is not surprising that they would
    vote for a village idiot to lead them. Unfortunately, for the rest of
    us, Brandon's dumpster fire has turned into a real goatfuck.

    The Dems know that they screwed up - but in their feeble mind - "Hey,
    he's better than Trump" - and they believe it and ignore the goatfuck..

    Saw Stop? I am jealous.
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