Hello Everyone :-)
My attorney just told me that it is safe to post the details on my website now so here it is if anybody is still interested.
https://atardis.com/atardis.gif
Does it really have everything on the list ?
I still haven't decided if I'm going to have one built in the US or the UK.
Catmobile :-)
Atardis Motorhome Design
atardis.com
...
As expected, I'm underwhelmed. Do you plan to store all your
camping supplies and gear in that rig, or will that require a second
Tardis? I think I saw parts of that rig appearing and disappearing. Like maybe a bath tub? Where will this stuff be stored? I didn't see anything even faintly patent-able. Could you point out that part and tell us how
it works?
I'm going to make a bold prediction based on your past history.
This rig will never be built by anyone. Unless I'm missing something
this rig is not even close to being a practical RV.
I cannot expect it to have the same amount of space as larger and longer motorhomes but it already has more storage space than many motorhomes and campervans of comparable lengths. If you don't use the overcab bed for sleeping you can store a lot ofthings up there. Most campervans have little room for storage under the floor and don't have an overcab bed because they are made to be lower to look like a van. You can also have storage compartments under the main bed and the dinette seats and the
I have a foldable bathtub at home which is about 8" thick when folded and there are some on Amazon that can be made a lot thinner. I like to take a bath more than most people do so I would install a good tankless water heater and use my tub wheneverthere are hook-ups available.
The patent examiners will have to do more search but I think I already have more patentable features than I want to patent.
1. Lounge with a retractable couch and a counter that can be selectively deployed between a dinette and a kitchen unit when the slides are in their extended positions
2. Two-way expandable Jack-and-Jill bathroom
3. A deck with foldable side panels and a retractable cover which can be partially lowered to form an enclosed sleeping compartment.
But if anybody happens to know of an existing motorhome or trailer with any of these features please let me know.
Catmobile :-)
Atardis Motorhome Design
atardis.com
On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 10:07:38 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
...
As expected, I'm underwhelmed. Do you plan to store all your
camping supplies and gear in that rig, or will that require a second Tardis? I think I saw parts of that rig appearing and disappearing. Like maybe a bath tub? Where will this stuff be stored? I didn't see anything even faintly patent-able. Could you point out that part and tell us how
it works?
I'm going to make a bold prediction based on your past history.
This rig will never be built by anyone. Unless I'm missing something
this rig is not even close to being a practical RV.
I cannot expect it to have the same amount of space as larger and longer motorhomes but it already has more storage space than many motorhomes and campervans of comparable lengths. If you don't use the overcab bed for sleeping you can store a lot ofthings up there. Most campervans have little room for storage under the floor and don't have an overcab bed because they are made to be lower to look like a van. You can also have storage compartments under the main bed and the dinette seats and the
I have a foldable bathtub at home which is about 8" thick when folded and there are some on Amazon that can be made a lot thinner. I like to take a bath more than most people do so I would install a good tankless water heater and use my tub wheneverthere are hook-ups available.
The patent examiners will have to do more search but I think I already have more patentable features than I want to patent.
1. Lounge with a retractable couch and a counter that can be selectively deployed between a dinette and a kitchen unit when the slides are in their extended positions
2. Two-way expandable Jack-and-Jill bathroom
3. A deck with foldable side panels and a retractable cover which can be partially lowered to form an enclosed sleeping compartment.
But if anybody happens to know of an existing motorhome or trailer with any of these features please let me know.
Catmobile :-)
Atardis Motorhome Design
atardis.com
On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 10:07:38 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
...
As expected, I'm underwhelmed. Do you plan to store all your
camping supplies and gear in that rig, or will that require a second
Tardis? I think I saw parts of that rig appearing and disappearing. Like
maybe a bath tub? Where will this stuff be stored? I didn't see anything
even faintly patent-able. Could you point out that part and tell us how
it works?
I'm going to make a bold prediction based on your past history.
This rig will never be built by anyone. Unless I'm missing something
this rig is not even close to being a practical RV.
On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 2:30:38 PM UTC-7, Catmobile wrote:things up there. Most campervans have little room for storage under the floor and don't have an overcab bed because they are made to be lower to look like a van. You can also have storage compartments under the main bed and the dinette seats and the
I cannot expect it to have the same amount of space as larger and longer motorhomes but it already has more storage space than many motorhomes and campervans of comparable lengths. If you don't use the overcab bed for sleeping you can store a lot of
there are hook-ups available.I have a foldable bathtub at home which is about 8" thick when folded and there are some on Amazon that can be made a lot thinner. I like to take a bath more than most people do so I would install a good tankless water heater and use my tub whenever
the bottom, on an as needed basis..... Your destiny awaits... Proceed onward!
The patent examiners will have to do more search but I think I already have more patentable features than I want to patent.
1. Lounge with a retractable couch and a counter that can be selectively deployed between a dinette and a kitchen unit when the slides are in their extended positions
2. Two-way expandable Jack-and-Jill bathroom
3. A deck with foldable side panels and a retractable cover which can be partially lowered to form an enclosed sleeping compartment.
But if anybody happens to know of an existing motorhome or trailer with any of these features please let me know.
Catmobile :-)
Atardis Motorhome Design
atardis.com
On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 10:07:38 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote: >>> ...
As expected, I'm underwhelmed. Do you plan to store all your
camping supplies and gear in that rig, or will that require a second
Tardis? I think I saw parts of that rig appearing and disappearing. Like >>> maybe a bath tub? Where will this stuff be stored? I didn't see anything >>> even faintly patent-able. Could you point out that part and tell us how
it works?
I'm going to make a bold prediction based on your past history.
This rig will never be built by anyone. Unless I'm missing something
this rig is not even close to being a practical RV.
The Wright Bros laughed at their naysayers! You should too! After all, history, proved their dream could be reality! Don't be discouraged, follow your calling.... Let TB sleep in those quaint little hotels, where they exchange the top sheet for
Just a Well Wisher
...
Putting simple ideas inside of an RV doesn't make them any more
patent-able than they were outside of an RV. Or, to be more precise, you can't get a patent on any of this that you could enforce. But, you be
you. You can get a patent on just about anything these days. The trick
is enforcing it. The only place you could have any hope of enforcing
your patent is in your dreams. There's just a shit ton of "prior art".
You can't patent a couch and a counter, even if you put them together.
What's next? Are you planning on patenting these ideas for: homes,
offices, boats, airplanes and submarines?
At one point in the past I worked for a guy who was making a direct
copy of one of his competitor's chairs. The competitor threatened to
sue. What they both found out is that you can't patent a chair and the competitor didn't have any more right to the that design than anyone
else. He had copied it from somewhere else, but it wouldn't have made
any difference because you can't patent a chair.
TB
On 10/8/2022 7:32 PM, film...@gmail.com wrote:things up there. Most campervans have little room for storage under the floor and don't have an overcab bed because they are made to be lower to look like a van. You can also have storage compartments under the main bed and the dinette seats and the
On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 2:30:38 PM UTC-7, Catmobile wrote:
I cannot expect it to have the same amount of space as larger and longer motorhomes but it already has more storage space than many motorhomes and campervans of comparable lengths. If you don't use the overcab bed for sleeping you can store a lot of
there are hook-ups available.
I have a foldable bathtub at home which is about 8" thick when folded and there are some on Amazon that can be made a lot thinner. I like to take a bath more than most people do so I would install a good tankless water heater and use my tub whenever
bottom, on an as needed basis..... Your destiny awaits... Proceed onward!
The patent examiners will have to do more search but I think I already have more patentable features than I want to patent.
1. Lounge with a retractable couch and a counter that can be selectively deployed between a dinette and a kitchen unit when the slides are in their extended positions
2. Two-way expandable Jack-and-Jill bathroom
3. A deck with foldable side panels and a retractable cover which can be partially lowered to form an enclosed sleeping compartment.
But if anybody happens to know of an existing motorhome or trailer with any of these features please let me know.
Catmobile :-)
Atardis Motorhome Design
atardis.com
On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 10:07:38 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote: >>> ...
As expected, I'm underwhelmed. Do you plan to store all your
camping supplies and gear in that rig, or will that require a second
Tardis? I think I saw parts of that rig appearing and disappearing. Like >>> maybe a bath tub? Where will this stuff be stored? I didn't see anything >>> even faintly patent-able. Could you point out that part and tell us how >>> it works?
I'm going to make a bold prediction based on your past history.
This rig will never be built by anyone. Unless I'm missing something
this rig is not even close to being a practical RV.
The Wright Bros laughed at their naysayers! You should too! After all, history, proved their dream could be reality! Don't be discouraged, follow your calling.... Let TB sleep in those quaint little hotels, where they exchange the top sheet for the
Just a Well Wisher
An RV is just another tool. I use it when and where it's
appropriate. From my barbaric point of view some of ya'll get too caught
up in the romance. I haven't brought home any crabs or other bugs I
didn't want, so far--and that includes some very odd places, by American
and sometimes Mexican standards, in Mexico. (In southern Mexico I prefer
the old fashioned places that have sturdy hooks for hammocks. :-) )
I'm headed for the Harbor View Inn and RV park in Garibaldi again
because it's just a short walk from there to my favorite crabbing dock.
I expect to bring back a ton of Dungeness crabs--again. It should be
happy hunting until the commercial season starts, which should be
December 1st at the earliest. I grew up on the coast and I'm still just plain amazed at how many crabs there are out there. In the first 6 weeks
of the season the commercial crabbers will hoover up so many males that
the fishery won't be profitable enough for most of them. It's good thing
we toss back all the females and young males.
I do agree that, in general, people should follow their dreams.
With a lot of obvious exceptions. I am a seriously bad example of this. There are many ways your "dreams" can get in the way of where you really want to go. I see a lot of "all terrain" vehicles around here that never leave the pavement. At this point it would seem strange if Catmobile was more.......hmmmm.....conventional.
TB
On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 8:38:27 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:things up there. Most campervans have little room for storage under the floor and don't have an overcab bed because they are made to be lower to look like a van. You can also have storage compartments under the main bed and the dinette seats and the
On 10/8/2022 7:32 PM, film...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 2:30:38 PM UTC-7, Catmobile wrote:
I cannot expect it to have the same amount of space as larger and longer motorhomes but it already has more storage space than many motorhomes and campervans of comparable lengths. If you don't use the overcab bed for sleeping you can store a lot of
there are hook-ups available.I have a foldable bathtub at home which is about 8" thick when folded and there are some on Amazon that can be made a lot thinner. I like to take a bath more than most people do so I would install a good tankless water heater and use my tub whenever
bottom, on an as needed basis..... Your destiny awaits... Proceed onward!
The patent examiners will have to do more search but I think I already have more patentable features than I want to patent.
1. Lounge with a retractable couch and a counter that can be selectively deployed between a dinette and a kitchen unit when the slides are in their extended positions
2. Two-way expandable Jack-and-Jill bathroom
3. A deck with foldable side panels and a retractable cover which can be partially lowered to form an enclosed sleeping compartment.
But if anybody happens to know of an existing motorhome or trailer with any of these features please let me know.
Catmobile :-)
Atardis Motorhome Design
atardis.com
On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 10:07:38 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote: >>>>> ...
As expected, I'm underwhelmed. Do you plan to store all your
camping supplies and gear in that rig, or will that require a second >>>>> Tardis? I think I saw parts of that rig appearing and disappearing. Like >>>>> maybe a bath tub? Where will this stuff be stored? I didn't see anything >>>>> even faintly patent-able. Could you point out that part and tell us how >>>>> it works?
I'm going to make a bold prediction based on your past history.
This rig will never be built by anyone. Unless I'm missing something >>>>> this rig is not even close to being a practical RV.
The Wright Bros laughed at their naysayers! You should too! After all, history, proved their dream could be reality! Don't be discouraged, follow your calling.... Let TB sleep in those quaint little hotels, where they exchange the top sheet for the
loving whatevers, prior to stocking your freezer?An RV is just another tool. I use it when and where it's
Just a Well Wisher
appropriate. From my barbaric point of view some of ya'll get too caught
up in the romance. I haven't brought home any crabs or other bugs I
didn't want, so far--and that includes some very odd places, by American
and sometimes Mexican standards, in Mexico. (In southern Mexico I prefer
the old fashioned places that have sturdy hooks for hammocks. :-) )
I'm headed for the Harbor View Inn and RV park in Garibaldi again
because it's just a short walk from there to my favorite crabbing dock.
I expect to bring back a ton of Dungeness crabs--again. It should be
happy hunting until the commercial season starts, which should be
December 1st at the earliest. I grew up on the coast and I'm still just
plain amazed at how many crabs there are out there. In the first 6 weeks
of the season the commercial crabbers will hoover up so many males that
the fishery won't be profitable enough for most of them. It's good thing
we toss back all the females and young males.
I do agree that, in general, people should follow their dreams.
With a lot of obvious exceptions. I am a seriously bad example of this.
There are many ways your "dreams" can get in the way of where you really
want to go. I see a lot of "all terrain" vehicles around here that never
leave the pavement. At this point it would seem strange if Catmobile was
more.......hmmmm.....conventional.
TB
Your unadulterated crabbing tales make me drool in envy! You must have a satisfied gloating feeling from sitting on a freezer full of those tasty boogers... Do you clean before freezing, or fold them up, just they were sleeping in Davy Jone's
Don
You haven't seen my claims and each of my independent claims is more than just one or two lines that I posted here. I have no reason to post them now because they're most likely going to be changed before a patent is issued.few years that I'm not aware of.
I paid a patent law firm to have a search done by a former patent examiner and he didn't find anything close to my designs but there is still no guarantee that I'll get a good patent because others may have come up with similar designs during the past
And even if I get a good patent I may not try to enforce it. I'm not trying to make money and my main objective is to prevent others from patenting variations of my designs.
If anybody can show me a better way to put the same things in a single-level 20-foot motorhome then I won't have to waste any more time on this project.
Catmobile :-)
Atardis Motorhome Design
atardis.com
On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 7:29:44 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
...
Putting simple ideas inside of an RV doesn't make them any more
patent-able than they were outside of an RV. Or, to be more precise, you
can't get a patent on any of this that you could enforce. But, you be
you. You can get a patent on just about anything these days. The trick
is enforcing it. The only place you could have any hope of enforcing
your patent is in your dreams. There's just a shit ton of "prior art".
You can't patent a couch and a counter, even if you put them together.
What's next? Are you planning on patenting these ideas for: homes,
offices, boats, airplanes and submarines?
At one point in the past I worked for a guy who was making a direct
copy of one of his competitor's chairs. The competitor threatened to
sue. What they both found out is that you can't patent a chair and the
competitor didn't have any more right to the that design than anyone
else. He had copied it from somewhere else, but it wouldn't have made
any difference because you can't patent a chair.
TB
...
I understand that you don't care whether or not your patent is
actually enforceable, BUT, that is still a good measure of the value of
a patent.
I can certainly believe that you haven't actually revealed your
invention because it's hard to see in what you've shown us or said. No matter what you put it in, how many times you fold it, and whatever name
you give it, you can't patent a folding "Jack and Jill", partition,
unless you've invented new hardware for it. I can't imagine the person
who would need that often enough to make it worth owning and dragging around.
...
TB
Tesla doesn't enforce its patents either.can I wouldn't have hired a patent attorney.
It's my attorney's job to submit the claims to the patent office and argue with the patent examiner. It's not my job to post them here and argue with anybody else and my attorney wouldn't want me to do this. If I thought I could do a better job than he
Catmobile :-)
Atardis Motorhome Design
atardis.com
On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 5:00:47 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
...
I understand that you don't care whether or not your patent is
actually enforceable, BUT, that is still a good measure of the value of
a patent.
I can certainly believe that you haven't actually revealed your
invention because it's hard to see in what you've shown us or said. No
matter what you put it in, how many times you fold it, and whatever name
you give it, you can't patent a folding "Jack and Jill", partition,
unless you've invented new hardware for it. I can't imagine the person
who would need that often enough to make it worth owning and dragging
around.
...
TB
You haven't seen my claims and each of my independent claims is more than just one or two lines that I posted here. I have no reason to post them now because they're most likely going to be changed before a patent is issued.few years that I'm not aware of.
I paid a patent law firm to have a search done by a former patent examiner and he didn't find anything close to my designs but there is still no guarantee that I'll get a good patent because others may have come up with similar designs during the past
And even if I get a good patent I may not try to enforce it. I'm not trying to make money and my main objective is to prevent others from patenting variations of my designs.
If anybody can show me a better way to put the same things in a single-level 20-foot motorhome then I won't have to waste any more time on this project.
Catmobile :-)
Atardis Motorhome Design
atardis.com
On 10/8/2022 10:37 PM, Catmobile wrote:
You haven't seen my claims and each of my independent claims is more
than just one or two lines that I posted here. I have no reason to
post them now because they're most likely going to be changed before
a patent is issued.
I paid a patent law firm to have a search done by a former patent
examiner and he didn't find anything close to my designs but there
is still no guarantee that I'll get a good patent because others may
have come up with similar designs during the past few years that I'm
not aware of.
And even if I get a good patent I may not try to enforce it. I'm not
trying to make money and my main objective is to prevent others from
patenting variations of my designs.
If anybody can show me a better way to put the same things in a
single-level 20-foot motorhome then I won't have to waste any more
time on this project.
Catmobile :-)
Atardis Motorhome Design
atardis.com
Well cool! I'm up for the challenge. Lets start with "Jack or Jill" restrooms. You can have as many as you want. My design has many advantages. Less weight, less cost, if you place them carefully you
won't have to smell anyone else. Throw in an inflatable wading pool
and you can have a luxury bathroom that's bigger than your little
folding tub.
https://www.amazon.com/Pop-Up-Privacy-Tent-Lightweight/dp/B07NQW55KV
"Pop Up Privacy Tent Instant Portable Outdoor Shower Tent, Camp
Toilet, Changing Room, Rain Shelter with Window for Camping and Beach
Easy Set Up, Foldable with Carry Bag Lightweight and Sturdy"
https://www.amazon.com/72-HRS-Emergencies-Preparedness-Backcountry/dp/B07DSQDX4T/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=bucket%2Btoilet%2Bseat&qid=1665763183&qu=eyJxc2MiOiI1LjE2IiwicXNhIjoiNC4wOCIsInFzcCI6IjMuNzAifQ%3D%3D&sr=8-1-spons&th=1
"72 HRS Premium Portable Camping Toilet Seat with Lid for Camping,2Bshelt%2Caps%2C186&sr=8-3-spons&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.2b70bf2b-6730-4ccf-ab97-eb60747b8daf&th=1
Hiking, Emergencies - Perfect for Emergency Preparedness, Backcountry,
Car, Boat, Road Trips (No Bucket)"
With my design for a seating area you can use the ground instead of packing around an extra floor and all of the machinery that goes
with it. Millions of people use this design so I don't think I can
patent it, unless maybe I give it an extra leg or something.
https://www.amazon.com/UNIQUECANOPY-Pop-Up-Canopy-Commercial/dp/B07C2KM8BJ/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?crid=20YVVBQ9PLWB4&keywords=pop%2Bup%2Bshelter%2Bwith%2Bwalls&qid=1665763426&qu=eyJxc2MiOiI0LjA1IiwicXNhIjoiMi43MyIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=popup%
"UNIQUECANOPY 10'x20' Ez Pop Up Canopy Tent Commercial Instant8-6&th=1
Shelter, with 4 Removable Zippered Side Walls and Heavy Duty Roller
Bag, 6 Sand Bags Dark Green"
This also has the advantage of getting people outside of the RV for awhile.
And then there's tables and chairs that operate independently. Oh my, that's a tough one.
https://www.amazon.com/Folding-Tables-Portable-Foldable-Backyard/dp/B097ZRJPK2/ref=sr_1_6?crid=22IG2D5ILLIZR&keywords=folding%2Btable&qid=1665763607&qu=eyJxc2MiOiI3Ljc0IiwicXNhIjoiNy4xMiIsInFzcCI6IjYuNTEifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=folding%2Btable%2Caps%2C148&sr=
Folding Tables, Plastic 6ft Folding Table,Half Portable Foldable Tablerd_plhdr=t&pd_rd_r=922d200f-f2e0-4008-88a2-658eb0e8e6e2&pd_rd_w=pd2Gr&pd_rd_wg=DVjSS&qid=1665763778&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_lsi4d_asin_0_img&sr=1-1-a094db1c-5033-42c6-82a2-587d01f975e8&th=1
for Parties, Backyard Events,White
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00D4JYR62/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=91de41cc1f03076ba2401b805e8c3ce1&content-id=amzn1.sym.53aae2ac-0129-49a5-9c09-6530a9e11786%3Aamzn1.sym.53aae2ac-0129-49a5-9c09-6530a9e11786&hsa_cr_id=8304288190001&pd_
"GCI Outdoor Freestyle Rocker Portable Rocking Chair & Outdoor Camping
Chair"
With my design you could actually carry all the people your rig
is designed to accommodate in the RV when it's going down the road. I
can't tell for sure, but it looks like you motorhome is designed to accommodate 5 or 6 people, but it only has seating for 2. My rig could
easily carry everyone and our food and supplies. Yours can't. The
plumbing, piping and wiring in my design could be very simple. Yours
will be complex and I'd be surprised if you have done any of the
actual engineering your design requires. My design leaves plenty of
room for all the bells and whistles.
TB
Technobarbarian wrote:2Bshelt%2Caps%2C186&sr=8-3-spons&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.2b70bf2b-6730-4ccf-ab97-eb60747b8daf&th=1
On 10/8/2022 10:37 PM, Catmobile wrote:
You haven't seen my claims and each of my independent claims is more
than just one or two lines that I posted here. I have no reason to
post them now because they're most likely going to be changed before
a patent is issued.
I paid a patent law firm to have a search done by a former patent
examiner and he didn't find anything close to my designs but there is
still no guarantee that I'll get a good patent because others may
have come up with similar designs during the past few years that I'm
not aware of.
And even if I get a good patent I may not try to enforce it. I'm not
trying to make money and my main objective is to prevent others from
patenting variations of my designs.
If anybody can show me a better way to put the same things in a
single-level 20-foot motorhome then I won't have to waste any more
time on this project.
Catmobile :-)
Atardis Motorhome Design
atardis.com
Well cool! I'm up for the challenge. Lets start with "Jack or
Jill" restrooms. You can have as many as you want. My design has many
advantages. Less weight, less cost, if you place them carefully you
won't have to smell anyone else. Throw in an inflatable wading pool
and you can have a luxury bathroom that's bigger than your little
folding tub.
https://www.amazon.com/Pop-Up-Privacy-Tent-Lightweight/dp/B07NQW55KV
"Pop Up Privacy Tent Instant Portable Outdoor Shower Tent, Camp
Toilet, Changing Room, Rain Shelter with Window for Camping and Beach
Easy Set Up, Foldable with Carry Bag Lightweight and Sturdy"
https://www.amazon.com/72-HRS-Emergencies-Preparedness-Backcountry/dp/B07DSQDX4T/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=bucket%2Btoilet%2Bseat&qid=1665763183&qu=eyJxc2MiOiI1LjE2IiwicXNhIjoiNC4wOCIsInFzcCI6IjMuNzAifQ%3D%3D&sr=8-1-spons&th=1
"72 HRS Premium Portable Camping Toilet Seat with Lid for Camping,
Hiking, Emergencies - Perfect for Emergency Preparedness, Backcountry,
Car, Boat, Road Trips (No Bucket)"
With my design for a seating area you can use the ground instead >> of packing around an extra floor and all of the machinery that goes
with it. Millions of people use this design so I don't think I can
patent it, unless maybe I give it an extra leg or something.
https://www.amazon.com/UNIQUECANOPY-Pop-Up-Canopy-Commercial/dp/B07C2KM8BJ/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?crid=20YVVBQ9PLWB4&keywords=pop%2Bup%2Bshelter%2Bwith%2Bwalls&qid=1665763426&qu=eyJxc2MiOiI0LjA1IiwicXNhIjoiMi43MyIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=popup%
8-6&th=1
"UNIQUECANOPY 10'x20' Ez Pop Up Canopy Tent Commercial Instant
Shelter, with 4 Removable Zippered Side Walls and Heavy Duty Roller
Bag, 6 Sand Bags Dark Green"
This also has the advantage of getting people outside of the RV >> for awhile.
And then there's tables and chairs that operate independently. Oh >> my, that's a tough one.
https://www.amazon.com/Folding-Tables-Portable-Foldable-Backyard/dp/B097ZRJPK2/ref=sr_1_6?crid=22IG2D5ILLIZR&keywords=folding%2Btable&qid=1665763607&qu=eyJxc2MiOiI3Ljc0IiwicXNhIjoiNy4xMiIsInFzcCI6IjYuNTEifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=folding%2Btable%2Caps%2C148&sr=
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Folding Tables, Plastic 6ft Folding Table,Half Portable Foldable Table
for Parties, Backyard Events,White
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00D4JYR62/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=91de41cc1f03076ba2401b805e8c3ce1&content-id=amzn1.sym.53aae2ac-0129-49a5-9c09-6530a9e11786%3Aamzn1.sym.53aae2ac-0129-49a5-9c09-6530a9e11786&hsa_cr_id=8304288190001&pd_
At the end of the day going forward, I allege that I guess that all that bullshabble means that I can't patent my bespoke solid oak portable
"GCI Outdoor Freestyle Rocker Portable Rocking Chair & Outdoor Camping
Chair"
With my design you could actually carry all the people your rig >> is designed to accommodate in the RV when it's going down the road. I
can't tell for sure, but it looks like you motorhome is designed to
accommodate 5 or 6 people, but it only has seating for 2. My rig could
easily carry everyone and our food and supplies. Yours can't. The
plumbing, piping and wiring in my design could be very simple. Yours
will be complex and I'd be surprised if you have done any of the
actual engineering your design requires. My design leaves plenty of
room for all the bells and whistles.
TB
folding cathole toilet seat designed and built specifically for
flatspotting? (cathole not included)
https://tinyurl.com/4sv4csxv
Maybe if I included a vintage WW2 entrenching tool (also folding) for
making ad hoc catholes?
On 10/14/2022 12:20 PM, bfh wrote:2Bshelt%2Caps%2C186&sr=8-3-spons&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.2b70bf2b-6730-4ccf-ab97-eb60747b8daf&th=1
Technobarbarian wrote:
On 10/8/2022 10:37 PM, Catmobile wrote:
You haven't seen my claims and each of my independent claims is
more than just one or two lines that I posted here. I have no
reason to post them now because they're most likely going to be
changed before a patent is issued.
I paid a patent law firm to have a search done by a former patent
examiner and he didn't find anything close to my designs but there
is still no guarantee that I'll get a good patent because others
may have come up with similar designs during the past few years
that I'm not aware of.
And even if I get a good patent I may not try to enforce it. I'm
not trying to make money and my main objective is to prevent
others from patenting variations of my designs.
If anybody can show me a better way to put the same things in a
single-level 20-foot motorhome then I won't have to waste any more
time on this project.
Catmobile :-)
Atardis Motorhome Design
atardis.com
     Well cool! I'm up for the challenge. Lets start with >>> "Jack or Jill" restrooms. You can have as many as you want. My
design has many advantages. Less weight, less cost, if you place
them carefully you won't have to smell anyone else. Throw in an
inflatable wading pool and you can have a luxury bathroom that's
bigger than your little folding tub.
https://www.amazon.com/Pop-Up-Privacy-Tent-Lightweight/dp/B07NQW55KV
"Pop Up Privacy Tent Instant Portable Outdoor Shower Tent, Camp
Toilet, Changing Room, Rain Shelter with Window for Camping and
Beach Easy Set Up, Foldable with Carry Bag Lightweight and Sturdy"
https://www.amazon.com/72-HRS-Emergencies-Preparedness-Backcountry/dp/B07DSQDX4T/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=bucket%2Btoilet%2Bseat&qid=1665763183&qu=eyJxc2MiOiI1LjE2IiwicXNhIjoiNC4wOCIsInFzcCI6IjMuNzAifQ%3D%3D&sr=8-1-spons&th=1
"72 HRS Premium Portable Camping Toilet Seat with Lid for Camping,
Hiking, Emergencies - Perfect for Emergency Preparedness,
Backcountry, Car, Boat, Road Trips (No Bucket)"
     With my design for a seating area you can use the ground
instead of packing around an extra floor and all of the machinery
that goes with it. Millions of people use this design so I don't
think I can patent it, unless maybe I give it an extra leg or
something.
https://www.amazon.com/UNIQUECANOPY-Pop-Up-Canopy-Commercial/dp/B07C2KM8BJ/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?crid=20YVVBQ9PLWB4&keywords=pop%2Bup%2Bshelter%2Bwith%2Bwalls&qid=1665763426&qu=eyJxc2MiOiI0LjA1IiwicXNhIjoiMi43MyIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=popup%
sr=8-6&th=1
"UNIQUECANOPY 10'x20' Ez Pop Up Canopy Tent Commercial Instant
Shelter, with 4 Removable Zippered Side Walls and Heavy Duty Roller
Bag, 6 Sand Bags Dark Green"
     This also has the advantage of getting people outside of
the RV for awhile.
    And then there's tables and chairs that operate
independently. Oh my, that's a tough one.
https://www.amazon.com/Folding-Tables-Portable-Foldable-Backyard/dp/B097ZRJPK2/ref=sr_1_6?crid=22IG2D5ILLIZR&keywords=folding%2Btable&qid=1665763607&qu=eyJxc2MiOiI3Ljc0IiwicXNhIjoiNy4xMiIsInFzcCI6IjYuNTEifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=folding%2Btable%2Caps%2C148&
rd_plhdr=t&pd_rd_r=922d200f-f2e0-4008-88a2-658eb0e8e6e2&pd_rd_w=pd2Gr&pd_rd_wg=DVjSS&qid=1665763778&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_lsi4d_asin_0_img&sr=1-1-a094db1c-5033-42c6-82a2-587d01f975e8&th=1
Folding Tables, Plastic 6ft Folding Table,Half Portable Foldable
Table for Parties, Backyard Events,White
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00D4JYR62/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=91de41cc1f03076ba2401b805e8c3ce1&content-id=amzn1.sym.53aae2ac-0129-49a5-9c09-6530a9e11786%3Aamzn1.sym.53aae2ac-0129-49a5-9c09-6530a9e11786&hsa_cr_id=8304288190001&pd_
At the end of the day going forward, I allege that I guess that all
"GCI Outdoor Freestyle Rocker Portable Rocking Chair & Outdoor
Camping Chair"
     With my design you could actually carry all the people
your rig is designed to accommodate in the RV when it's going down
the road. I can't tell for sure, but it looks like you motorhome is
designed to accommodate 5 or 6 people, but it only has seating for
2. My rig could easily carry everyone and our food and supplies.
Yours can't. The plumbing, piping and wiring in my design could be
very simple. Yours will be complex and I'd be surprised if you have
done any of the actual engineering your design requires. My design
leaves plenty of room for all the bells and whistles.
TB
that bullshabble means that I can't patent my bespoke solid oak
portable folding cathole toilet seat designed and built specifically
for flatspotting? (cathole not included)
https://tinyurl.com/4sv4csxv
Maybe if I included a vintage WW2 entrenching tool (also folding)
for making ad hoc catholes?
I am not a patent attorney or a former patent examiner, so I would only be guessing. While that's a beautiful example, I suspect
you're shit out of luck. That entrenching tool is one damn fine
invention, and not the only one to come out of the war. I happened to
catch this video about jerry cans the other day. It's another great invention that came out of the war. Like many great inventions it
probably required the collaboration of many people before they got to
the final product.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwUkbGHFAhs
Jerry Cans: The True Secret Weapon of WWII
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerrycan
TB
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