• I have a Crab Hangover

    From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 14 07:49:10 2022
    We spent most of the last 3 days on the coast. We came home with 33
    crabs. That's a lot of crab, particularly because my wife is allergic to shellfish. It's a good thing for me that she enjoys hanging out on the
    dock and catching crabs. I could have caught more, but that is a lot of
    crab. I still have to finish up getting some of it packaged to go in the freezer. It feels like the aftermath of a good party. I'm tired from all
    the exercise and socializing, and all that is left to do is clean up the
    mess.

    We stayed at the Harbor View Inn and RV park. It's right in the
    middle of the Garibaldi dock area, which is it's biggest selling point.
    It's just a short walk from there to my favorite crabbing dock. The RV
    park is the sort of place where all the RVs are jammed together with
    small lawns and a wood picnic table. There is minimal landscaping. They
    get a lot of big land yachts. There are many nice boats and some real
    yachts parked nearby. The inn has been there forever, but it's been
    nicely remodeled.

    TB

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  • From Frank Howell@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Wed Sep 14 10:19:24 2022
    Technobarbarian wrote:

        We spent most of the last 3 days on the coast. We came home with 33 crabs. That's a lot of crab, particularly because my wife is allergic to shellfish. It's a good thing for me that she enjoys hanging out on the
    dock and catching crabs. I could have caught more, but that is a lot of
    crab. I still have to finish up getting some of it packaged to go in the freezer. It feels like the aftermath of a good party. I'm tired from all
    the exercise and socializing, and all that is left to do is clean up the mess.

        We stayed at the Harbor View Inn and RV park. It's right in the middle of the Garibaldi dock area, which is it's biggest selling point.
    It's just a short walk from there to my favorite crabbing dock. The RV
    park is the sort of place where all the RVs are jammed together with
    small lawns and a wood picnic table. There is minimal landscaping. They
    get a lot of big land yachts. There are many nice boats and some real
    yachts parked nearby. The inn has been there forever, but it's been
    nicely remodeled.

    TB
    Fantastic! a few weeks ago we ate at McGraths Fish House and noticed on
    the menu, a pound of Dungeness crab legs for only $49.

    --
    Frank Howell

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to Frank Howell on Wed Sep 14 12:54:40 2022
    On 9/14/2022 10:19 AM, Frank Howell wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:

         We spent most of the last 3 days on the coast. We came home with
    33 crabs. That's a lot of crab, particularly because my wife is
    allergic to shellfish. It's a good thing for me that she enjoys
    hanging out on the dock and catching crabs. I could have caught more,
    but that is a lot of crab. I still have to finish up getting some of
    it packaged to go in the freezer. It feels like the aftermath of a
    good party. I'm tired from all the exercise and socializing, and all
    that is left to do is clean up the mess.

         We stayed at the Harbor View Inn and RV park. It's right in the
    middle of the Garibaldi dock area, which is it's biggest selling
    point. It's just a short walk from there to my favorite crabbing dock.
    The RV park is the sort of place where all the RVs are jammed together
    with small lawns and a wood picnic table. There is minimal
    landscaping. They get a lot of big land yachts. There are many nice
    boats and some real yachts parked nearby. The inn has been there
    forever, but it's been nicely remodeled.

    TB
    Fantastic! a few weeks ago we ate at McGraths Fish House and noticed on
    the menu, a pound of Dungeness crab legs for only $49.


    I haven't eaten at McGraths for ages because we don't have one
    near us any more. It's a bit difficult to compare prices. Right now
    anything you get fresh in a restaurant probably spent many months in a
    cozy holding tank somewhere. The commercial season won't start until the
    crabs fill out more consistently from their last molt. Even just looking
    at supermarket prices for previously frozen crabs I figure the crabs
    paid for our long weekend. They're filling in nicely, but I threw a few
    back in because they were too soft. The soft ones were mostly smaller
    crabs, so I didn't lose much by tossing them back in.

    I'm probably going to have to get even more picky as the season
    goes on or find something else to do. Between the wild game from my
    sister and her husband and the crabs my little chest freezer is full. I
    need to collect some more razor clams, but they're small and don't take
    up much space. And damn tasty too. Come to think of it, that's one of
    the things I miss about McGraths. They do an excellent razor clam dinner.

    I enjoy the crab docks because it's one of the few places on the
    coast where you can sit back and relax and talk with mostly, more or
    less sober, strangers from all over the country, both locals and
    tourists, while people and boat watching in a busy port.

    TB

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Wed Sep 14 18:54:32 2022
    On 9/14/2022 7:49 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:

        We spent most of the last 3 days on the coast. We came home with 33 crabs. That's a lot of crab, particularly because my wife is allergic to shellfish. It's a good thing for me that she enjoys hanging out on the
    dock and catching crabs. I could have caught more, but that is a lot of
    crab. I still have to finish up getting some of it packaged to go in the freezer. It feels like the aftermath of a good party. I'm tired from all
    the exercise and socializing, and all that is left to do is clean up the mess.

        We stayed at the Harbor View Inn and RV park. It's right in the middle of the Garibaldi dock area, which is it's biggest selling point.
    It's just a short walk from there to my favorite crabbing dock. The RV
    park is the sort of place where all the RVs are jammed together with
    small lawns and a wood picnic table. There is minimal landscaping. They
    get a lot of big land yachts. There are many nice boats and some real
    yachts parked nearby. The inn has been there forever, but it's been
    nicely remodeled.

    TB

    Talk about processing: I had to laugh at myself again. I was a very spoiled kid. I grew up in Newport. After lumber, Dungeness crab was the
    biggest cash crop there. It's also one of my favorite foods. These days
    it's a mine the miners situation. They make far more money from
    recreational crabbers than they would make selling the crabs. That's
    probably one of the reasons you can go crabbing all year, while the
    commercial season is limited. Recreational crabbing will remain great
    until the commercial crabbers hoover up most of the big males. The way
    we're doing it, throwing all the females and young males back, the
    fishery is probably sustainable forever. I expect that as the sport
    becomes more popular they will have to further limit the number of crabs
    you can keep. Here the limit is a dozen. In Washington it's 2. OTOH they
    have a commercial fishery for Red Rock crabs, while we have a generous
    limit.

    For a number of reasons recreational crabbing wasn't all that
    popular back then. The number of places you could throw a trap in
    without a boat was very limited. We got a lot of free crab from my
    parent's friends, some of whom had nice live pens in the harbor, and it
    wasn't all that expensive in restaurants.

    My brother and I had a boat. But, even if you build it yourself
    crab traps cost money and we couldn't legally sell the crabs. We could
    sell herring for 25 cents a dozen so that was most of our harbor
    fishing. Back in those days I did a lot of trout fishing and I was
    starting to have......., um, other interests. So I'm a relative new
    comer to recreational crabbing from docks. Fishing of all sorts, being
    the sort of activity it is you'll read and hear all sorts of bad advice.
    I suspect that part of the problem is that most of what you read was
    written by people who mostly crab from boats. I've talked to people who
    insist that the best time to go crabbing from whatever dock is when the
    tide changes to incoming. That's because that's the only time they go
    crabbing.

    I saw a guy who had dropped 2 traps early in the morning during an
    strong outgoing tide and came back 4 hours later. By the time he came
    back the tide had changed, but it really wasn't moving all that fast
    yet. One trap came back with a few small crabs. His other trap was half
    full. I didn't know you could get that many crabs in a standard folding
    box trap. The doors have to swing in to let new crabs in. They don't
    swing out. He had probably stopped catching crabs when they couldn't
    muscle their way in anymore. There are escape holes for the small guys.
    He had 19 large crabs and only threw one back because it was a female.
    He was done for the day. It was all a legal catch because his wife was
    crabbing with him. Depending on their bait everyone was doing well
    regardless of the time, but some of us did our best crabbing on an
    outgoing tide.

    When asked, I have been saying all along that the standard advice
    on the tides depends on lot of circumstances. It's probably good advice
    for the boaters if for no other reason that that is when they're most
    likely to lose traps. Crabs out in exposed areas are more likely to dig
    into the muck during a strong tide and wait it out.

    Another bit of standard advice is to avoid using fish in your
    traps because the seals will sometimes rip them up going after your
    bait. Again, this is probably good advice for people who are crabbing
    from a boat. A lot of people like to drop their traps while they're out
    salmon fishing. Even if they aren't fishing they're probably moving
    around tending a number of traps. Seals being seals, it probably happens
    at the docks, but I haven't seen it. The worst I've seen was a seal that
    moved one of my traps that was baited with the standard advice fresh
    chicken, maybe 15 feet. No one has figured out why the crabs like
    chicken while the seals don't.

    I suspect that the problem for the seals is that it's whole
    different game when you're up against someone who is standing right
    there with a strong rope and a firm footing, and who doesn't mind
    jerking you around a bit. Seals are relatively smart animals. This week
    tuna heads were working well. The few seals we saw stayed away from the
    docks, but they sometimes swim by for a quick look at what's going on.

    I swear. I'm going to get over this hangover and do things that get
    me moving around more this week. Since she's a sweetie my wife fixed
    dinner. We have chicken with pasta, peas and fresh tomatoes from our
    garden. It makes excellent leftovers. I'm planning on more fresh crab
    straight from the shell for my late evening snack. I lead a rough life.
    lol

    TB

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  • From filmbydon@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Wed Sep 14 19:42:21 2022
    On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 6:54:37 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 9/14/2022 7:49 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:

    We spent most of the last 3 days on the coast. We came home with 33 crabs. That's a lot of crab, particularly because my wife is allergic to shellfish. It's a good thing for me that she enjoys hanging out on the
    dock and catching crabs. I could have caught more, but that is a lot of crab. I still have to finish up getting some of it packaged to go in the freezer. It feels like the aftermath of a good party. I'm tired from all the exercise and socializing, and all that is left to do is clean up the mess.

    We stayed at the Harbor View Inn and RV park. It's right in the
    middle of the Garibaldi dock area, which is it's biggest selling point. It's just a short walk from there to my favorite crabbing dock. The RV
    park is the sort of place where all the RVs are jammed together with
    small lawns and a wood picnic table. There is minimal landscaping. They
    get a lot of big land yachts. There are many nice boats and some real yachts parked nearby. The inn has been there forever, but it's been
    nicely remodeled.

    TB
    Talk about processing: I had to laugh at myself again. I was a very
    spoiled kid. I grew up in Newport. After lumber, Dungeness crab was the biggest cash crop there. It's also one of my favorite foods. These days
    it's a mine the miners situation. They make far more money from
    recreational crabbers than they would make selling the crabs. That's
    probably one of the reasons you can go crabbing all year, while the commercial season is limited. Recreational crabbing will remain great
    until the commercial crabbers hoover up most of the big males. The way
    we're doing it, throwing all the females and young males back, the
    fishery is probably sustainable forever. I expect that as the sport
    becomes more popular they will have to further limit the number of crabs
    you can keep. Here the limit is a dozen. In Washington it's 2. OTOH they
    have a commercial fishery for Red Rock crabs, while we have a generous
    limit.

    For a number of reasons recreational crabbing wasn't all that
    popular back then. The number of places you could throw a trap in
    without a boat was very limited. We got a lot of free crab from my
    parent's friends, some of whom had nice live pens in the harbor, and it wasn't all that expensive in restaurants.

    My brother and I had a boat. But, even if you build it yourself
    crab traps cost money and we couldn't legally sell the crabs. We could
    sell herring for 25 cents a dozen so that was most of our harbor
    fishing. Back in those days I did a lot of trout fishing and I was
    starting to have......., um, other interests. So I'm a relative new
    comer to recreational crabbing from docks. Fishing of all sorts, being
    the sort of activity it is you'll read and hear all sorts of bad advice.
    I suspect that part of the problem is that most of what you read was
    written by people who mostly crab from boats. I've talked to people who insist that the best time to go crabbing from whatever dock is when the
    tide changes to incoming. That's because that's the only time they go crabbing.

    I saw a guy who had dropped 2 traps early in the morning during an
    strong outgoing tide and came back 4 hours later. By the time he came
    back the tide had changed, but it really wasn't moving all that fast
    yet. One trap came back with a few small crabs. His other trap was half
    full. I didn't know you could get that many crabs in a standard folding
    box trap. The doors have to swing in to let new crabs in. They don't
    swing out. He had probably stopped catching crabs when they couldn't
    muscle their way in anymore. There are escape holes for the small guys.
    He had 19 large crabs and only threw one back because it was a female.
    He was done for the day. It was all a legal catch because his wife was crabbing with him. Depending on their bait everyone was doing well
    regardless of the time, but some of us did our best crabbing on an
    outgoing tide.

    When asked, I have been saying all along that the standard advice
    on the tides depends on lot of circumstances. It's probably good advice
    for the boaters if for no other reason that that is when they're most
    likely to lose traps. Crabs out in exposed areas are more likely to dig
    into the muck during a strong tide and wait it out.

    Another bit of standard advice is to avoid using fish in your
    traps because the seals will sometimes rip them up going after your
    bait. Again, this is probably good advice for people who are crabbing
    from a boat. A lot of people like to drop their traps while they're out salmon fishing. Even if they aren't fishing they're probably moving
    around tending a number of traps. Seals being seals, it probably happens
    at the docks, but I haven't seen it. The worst I've seen was a seal that moved one of my traps that was baited with the standard advice fresh
    chicken, maybe 15 feet. No one has figured out why the crabs like
    chicken while the seals don't.

    I suspect that the problem for the seals is that it's whole
    different game when you're up against someone who is standing right
    there with a strong rope and a firm footing, and who doesn't mind
    jerking you around a bit. Seals are relatively smart animals. This week
    tuna heads were working well. The few seals we saw stayed away from the docks, but they sometimes swim by for a quick look at what's going on.

    I swear. I'm going to get over this hangover and do things that get
    me moving around more this week. Since she's a sweetie my wife fixed
    dinner. We have chicken with pasta, peas and fresh tomatoes from our
    garden. It makes excellent leftovers. I'm planning on more fresh crab straight from the shell for my late evening snack. I lead a rough life.
    lol

    TB

    I'm happy to read about that grade of the 1st class suffering you're enduring... Those unadulterated crab tales had me on the threshold of drooling.... "Living well, is the best revenge...."

    Don

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