• Re: The Truth About Orange Goonism

    From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to kmiller on Fri Sep 9 20:39:17 2022
    On 9/9/2022 8:22 PM, kmiller wrote:
    By all appearances, Steve Bannon likes to think that he represents the
    soul of the Maga movement. He sees himself as a tireless champion of the common man, fighting their battles against America’s corrupt elites.
    It’s not for nothing that his radio show is called War Room and carried
    by the Real America’s Voice network. But just like everybody else who
    has worked closely with Donald Trump, Bannon is either delusional or
    trying to delude. He’s not the everyman – he’s the corrupt elite.

    Steve Bannon ‘stole millions of dollars to line his own pocket,’ New
    York attorney general says – as it happened
    Read more
    This was driven home once again on Thursday, when Bannon surrendered
    himself to New York prosecutors to face charges of defrauding donors to
    We Build the Wall, a non-profit organization that raised over $25m to
    build a wall to keep immigrants from crossing America’s southern border. Although donors to the group were assured that 100% of their money would
    be used on construction, large sums were siphoned into the pockets of
    those running the group. And who as chairman of the board allegedly took
    the greatest sum of all? None other than Steve Bannon.

    This affair – in which two people have already pleaded guilty – is a
    very direct example of a prominent figure in the Maga movement lining
    their pockets with the money of unsuspecting marks. But it also stands
    as a metaphor for the movement as a whole. Far from standing up for the interests of “ordinary Americans”, Maga exists to funnel money, power
    and prestige to a small elite while not lifting a finger to improve the
    lives of anyone else.

    During his first presidential campaign in 2016, Trump – with Bannon at
    his side – tried to present himself as a champion of the downtrodden. He promised to bring jobs back from overseas and help Americans get over
    their economic anxiety. But as soon as he got into office, he governed
    as a plutocrat. His one significant legislative achievement before the coronavirus pandemic was a 2017 tax bill which forced lower-income
    groups to pay more and allowed higher income groups to pay less. And
    every year the administration proposed steep cuts to the social programs
    used by real ordinary Americans, including a 2021 budget which would
    have cut $1.2tn from Medicaid, food stamps and elsewhere.

    In office, Trump continued to benefit from the economic recovery which
    had begun under Barack Obama, allowing him to tout high employment and
    wage levels. But just as the Biden administration is largely powerless
    to fight inflation right now, this economic performance had precious
    little to do with Trump. When he did intervene – for instance by
    launching a trade war with China – it was in ways which harmed manufacturers and cost American jobs. But for Trump and the Maga
    movement it’s posturing for their nationalist base, not the real effect
    on real people, which matters.

    But Trump and Bannon have done something even more pernicious than this.
    For they have also tried to exclude a large part of the population from
    even being considered as “ordinary Americans” at all. Theirs is an
    agenda not for the racially diverse working and middle classes that
    actually exist in America, but for a narrow white subset of it. They
    have made a mythic folk hero out of the white male worker, promising to return the country to an era like the 1950s, in which such people
    reigned supreme. That they then have actually done little to help even
    white workers should not obscure the fact that they have also poured
    hatred and vitriol on the immigrants and people of color who do so much
    of America’s actual work.

    All of which brings us neatly back to Bannon and the wall. It’s no coincidence that when Bannon left office, he dedicated himself to
    building the wall rather than building working-class communities. The
    border wall has endured as the ultimate symbol of Trumpism because the
    soul of his movement is racism and exclusion, not charity and
    assistance. It is through the stoking of hatred and division that Maga
    elites keep the punters engaged and happy to open their wallets. It’s
    also how they keep themselves rich and – through blocking any attempt to actually help working people – ensure the poor stay poor.

    This, the true driving force of Trumpism, makes a mockery of
    conservatives who pretend that the Republican party can become a “multiethnic, multiracial, working-class party”. The proposition is absurd not only because the party is in hock to a movement built on
    racial hate but also because the same movement has never evinced any
    interest in actually helping “ordinary Americans”. Its leading figures will eventually depart from life leaving wealthy heirs but no record of
    ever having helped the people they supposedly stand for. In the end,
    Maga is nothing but a scam with hate in its heart and other people’s
    money in its pockets. Just ask Steve Bannon.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2022/sep/09/steve-bannon-fraud-donald-trump-truth

    Trump! Trump! Trump!

    --
    --------------
    Liberals fear Donald Trump more than they fear climate change.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 9 18:22:44 2022
    By all appearances, Steve Bannon likes to think that he represents the
    soul of the Maga movement. He sees himself as a tireless champion of the
    common man, fighting their battles against America’s corrupt elites.
    It’s not for nothing that his radio show is called War Room and carried
    by the Real America’s Voice network. But just like everybody else who
    has worked closely with Donald Trump, Bannon is either delusional or
    trying to delude. He’s not the everyman – he’s the corrupt elite.

    Steve Bannon ‘stole millions of dollars to line his own pocket,’ New
    York attorney general says – as it happened
    Read more
    This was driven home once again on Thursday, when Bannon surrendered
    himself to New York prosecutors to face charges of defrauding donors to
    We Build the Wall, a non-profit organization that raised over $25m to
    build a wall to keep immigrants from crossing America’s southern border. Although donors to the group were assured that 100% of their money would
    be used on construction, large sums were siphoned into the pockets of
    those running the group. And who as chairman of the board allegedly took
    the greatest sum of all? None other than Steve Bannon.

    This affair – in which two people have already pleaded guilty – is a
    very direct example of a prominent figure in the Maga movement lining
    their pockets with the money of unsuspecting marks. But it also stands
    as a metaphor for the movement as a whole. Far from standing up for the interests of “ordinary Americans”, Maga exists to funnel money, power
    and prestige to a small elite while not lifting a finger to improve the
    lives of anyone else.

    During his first presidential campaign in 2016, Trump – with Bannon at
    his side – tried to present himself as a champion of the downtrodden. He promised to bring jobs back from overseas and help Americans get over
    their economic anxiety. But as soon as he got into office, he governed
    as a plutocrat. His one significant legislative achievement before the coronavirus pandemic was a 2017 tax bill which forced lower-income
    groups to pay more and allowed higher income groups to pay less. And
    every year the administration proposed steep cuts to the social programs
    used by real ordinary Americans, including a 2021 budget which would
    have cut $1.2tn from Medicaid, food stamps and elsewhere.

    In office, Trump continued to benefit from the economic recovery which
    had begun under Barack Obama, allowing him to tout high employment and
    wage levels. But just as the Biden administration is largely powerless
    to fight inflation right now, this economic performance had precious
    little to do with Trump. When he did intervene – for instance by
    launching a trade war with China – it was in ways which harmed
    manufacturers and cost American jobs. But for Trump and the Maga
    movement it’s posturing for their nationalist base, not the real effect
    on real people, which matters.

    But Trump and Bannon have done something even more pernicious than this.
    For they have also tried to exclude a large part of the population from
    even being considered as “ordinary Americans” at all. Theirs is an
    agenda not for the racially diverse working and middle classes that
    actually exist in America, but for a narrow white subset of it. They
    have made a mythic folk hero out of the white male worker, promising to
    return the country to an era like the 1950s, in which such people
    reigned supreme. That they then have actually done little to help even
    white workers should not obscure the fact that they have also poured
    hatred and vitriol on the immigrants and people of color who do so much
    of America’s actual work.

    All of which brings us neatly back to Bannon and the wall. It’s no coincidence that when Bannon left office, he dedicated himself to
    building the wall rather than building working-class communities. The
    border wall has endured as the ultimate symbol of Trumpism because the
    soul of his movement is racism and exclusion, not charity and
    assistance. It is through the stoking of hatred and division that Maga
    elites keep the punters engaged and happy to open their wallets. It’s
    also how they keep themselves rich and – through blocking any attempt to actually help working people – ensure the poor stay poor.

    This, the true driving force of Trumpism, makes a mockery of
    conservatives who pretend that the Republican party can become a “multiethnic, multiracial, working-class party”. The proposition is
    absurd not only because the party is in hock to a movement built on
    racial hate but also because the same movement has never evinced any
    interest in actually helping “ordinary Americans”. Its leading figures
    will eventually depart from life leaving wealthy heirs but no record of
    ever having helped the people they supposedly stand for. In the end,
    Maga is nothing but a scam with hate in its heart and other people’s
    money in its pockets. Just ask Steve Bannon.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2022/sep/09/steve-bannon-fraud-donald-trump-truth

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From filmbydon@gmail.com@21:1/5 to kmiller on Fri Sep 9 21:34:34 2022
    On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 6:22:48 PM UTC-7, kmiller wrote:
    By all appearances, Steve Bannon likes to think that he represents the
    soul of the Maga movement. He sees himself as a tireless champion of the common man, fighting their battles against America’s corrupt elites. It’s not for nothing that his radio show is called War Room and carried
    by the Real America’s Voice network. But just like everybody else who
    has worked closely with Donald Trump, Bannon is either delusional or
    trying to delude. He’s not the everyman – he’s the corrupt elite.

    Steve Bannon ‘stole millions of dollars to line his own pocket,’ New York attorney general says – as it happened
    Read more
    This was driven home once again on Thursday, when Bannon surrendered
    himself to New York prosecutors to face charges of defrauding donors to
    We Build the Wall, a non-profit organization that raised over $25m to
    build a wall to keep immigrants from crossing America’s southern border. Although donors to the group were assured that 100% of their money would
    be used on construction, large sums were siphoned into the pockets of
    those running the group. And who as chairman of the board allegedly took
    the greatest sum of all? None other than Steve Bannon.

    This affair – in which two people have already pleaded guilty – is a very direct example of a prominent figure in the Maga movement lining
    their pockets with the money of unsuspecting marks. But it also stands
    as a metaphor for the movement as a whole. Far from standing up for the interests of “ordinary Americans”, Maga exists to funnel money, power and prestige to a small elite while not lifting a finger to improve the lives of anyone else.

    During his first presidential campaign in 2016, Trump – with Bannon at
    his side – tried to present himself as a champion of the downtrodden. He promised to bring jobs back from overseas and help Americans get over
    their economic anxiety. But as soon as he got into office, he governed
    as a plutocrat. His one significant legislative achievement before the coronavirus pandemic was a 2017 tax bill which forced lower-income
    groups to pay more and allowed higher income groups to pay less. And
    every year the administration proposed steep cuts to the social programs used by real ordinary Americans, including a 2021 budget which would
    have cut $1.2tn from Medicaid, food stamps and elsewhere.

    In office, Trump continued to benefit from the economic recovery which
    had begun under Barack Obama, allowing him to tout high employment and
    wage levels. But just as the Biden administration is largely powerless
    to fight inflation right now, this economic performance had precious
    little to do with Trump. When he did intervene – for instance by
    launching a trade war with China – it was in ways which harmed manufacturers and cost American jobs. But for Trump and the Maga
    movement it’s posturing for their nationalist base, not the real effect
    on real people, which matters.

    But Trump and Bannon have done something even more pernicious than this.
    For they have also tried to exclude a large part of the population from
    even being considered as “ordinary Americans” at all. Theirs is an agenda not for the racially diverse working and middle classes that
    actually exist in America, but for a narrow white subset of it. They
    have made a mythic folk hero out of the white male worker, promising to return the country to an era like the 1950s, in which such people
    reigned supreme. That they then have actually done little to help even
    white workers should not obscure the fact that they have also poured
    hatred and vitriol on the immigrants and people of color who do so much
    of America’s actual work.

    All of which brings us neatly back to Bannon and the wall. It’s no coincidence that when Bannon left office, he dedicated himself to
    building the wall rather than building working-class communities. The
    border wall has endured as the ultimate symbol of Trumpism because the
    soul of his movement is racism and exclusion, not charity and
    assistance. It is through the stoking of hatred and division that Maga elites keep the punters engaged and happy to open their wallets. It’s
    also how they keep themselves rich and – through blocking any attempt to actually help working people – ensure the poor stay poor.

    This, the true driving force of Trumpism, makes a mockery of
    conservatives who pretend that the Republican party can become a “multiethnic, multiracial, working-class party”. The proposition is absurd not only because the party is in hock to a movement built on
    racial hate but also because the same movement has never evinced any interest in actually helping “ordinary Americans”. Its leading figures will eventually depart from life leaving wealthy heirs but no record of
    ever having helped the people they supposedly stand for. In the end,
    Maga is nothing but a scam with hate in its heart and other people’s
    money in its pockets. Just ask Steve Bannon.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2022/sep/09/steve-bannon-fraud-donald-trump-truth

    Your C&P was so beautiful I nearly wept! What I still can't understand, is how otherwise sensible people, just can't realize they're getting worked, when there's nothing to show for it, except for a smug feeling, I guess? They sort of remind me of
    the scammed townsfolk, from "Huckleberry Finn"...

    Dear Abby Jr.


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to film...@gmail.com on Sat Sep 10 07:04:03 2022
    On 9/9/2022 9:34 PM, film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 6:22:48 PM UTC-7, kmiller wrote:
    By all appearances, Steve Bannon likes to think that he represents the
    soul of the Maga movement. He sees himself as a tireless champion of the
    common man, fighting their battles against America’s corrupt elites.
    It’s not for nothing that his radio show is called War Room and carried
    by the Real America’s Voice network. But just like everybody else who
    has worked closely with Donald Trump, Bannon is either delusional or
    trying to delude. He’s not the everyman – he’s the corrupt elite.

    Steve Bannon ‘stole millions of dollars to line his own pocket,’ New
    York attorney general says – as it happened
    Read more
    This was driven home once again on Thursday, when Bannon surrendered
    himself to New York prosecutors to face charges of defrauding donors to
    We Build the Wall, a non-profit organization that raised over $25m to
    build a wall to keep immigrants from crossing America’s southern border. >> Although donors to the group were assured that 100% of their money would
    be used on construction, large sums were siphoned into the pockets of
    those running the group. And who as chairman of the board allegedly took
    the greatest sum of all? None other than Steve Bannon.

    This affair – in which two people have already pleaded guilty – is a
    very direct example of a prominent figure in the Maga movement lining
    their pockets with the money of unsuspecting marks. But it also stands
    as a metaphor for the movement as a whole. Far from standing up for the
    interests of “ordinary Americans”, Maga exists to funnel money, power
    and prestige to a small elite while not lifting a finger to improve the
    lives of anyone else.

    During his first presidential campaign in 2016, Trump – with Bannon at
    his side – tried to present himself as a champion of the downtrodden. He >> promised to bring jobs back from overseas and help Americans get over
    their economic anxiety. But as soon as he got into office, he governed
    as a plutocrat. His one significant legislative achievement before the
    coronavirus pandemic was a 2017 tax bill which forced lower-income
    groups to pay more and allowed higher income groups to pay less. And
    every year the administration proposed steep cuts to the social programs
    used by real ordinary Americans, including a 2021 budget which would
    have cut $1.2tn from Medicaid, food stamps and elsewhere.

    In office, Trump continued to benefit from the economic recovery which
    had begun under Barack Obama, allowing him to tout high employment and
    wage levels. But just as the Biden administration is largely powerless
    to fight inflation right now, this economic performance had precious
    little to do with Trump. When he did intervene – for instance by
    launching a trade war with China – it was in ways which harmed
    manufacturers and cost American jobs. But for Trump and the Maga
    movement it’s posturing for their nationalist base, not the real effect
    on real people, which matters.

    But Trump and Bannon have done something even more pernicious than this.
    For they have also tried to exclude a large part of the population from
    even being considered as “ordinary Americans” at all. Theirs is an
    agenda not for the racially diverse working and middle classes that
    actually exist in America, but for a narrow white subset of it. They
    have made a mythic folk hero out of the white male worker, promising to
    return the country to an era like the 1950s, in which such people
    reigned supreme. That they then have actually done little to help even
    white workers should not obscure the fact that they have also poured
    hatred and vitriol on the immigrants and people of color who do so much
    of America’s actual work.

    All of which brings us neatly back to Bannon and the wall. It’s no
    coincidence that when Bannon left office, he dedicated himself to
    building the wall rather than building working-class communities. The
    border wall has endured as the ultimate symbol of Trumpism because the
    soul of his movement is racism and exclusion, not charity and
    assistance. It is through the stoking of hatred and division that Maga
    elites keep the punters engaged and happy to open their wallets. It’s
    also how they keep themselves rich and – through blocking any attempt to >> actually help working people – ensure the poor stay poor.

    This, the true driving force of Trumpism, makes a mockery of
    conservatives who pretend that the Republican party can become a
    “multiethnic, multiracial, working-class party”. The proposition is
    absurd not only because the party is in hock to a movement built on
    racial hate but also because the same movement has never evinced any
    interest in actually helping “ordinary Americans”. Its leading figures >> will eventually depart from life leaving wealthy heirs but no record of
    ever having helped the people they supposedly stand for. In the end,
    Maga is nothing but a scam with hate in its heart and other people’s
    money in its pockets. Just ask Steve Bannon.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2022/sep/09/steve-bannon-fraud-donald-trump-truth

    Your C&P was so beautiful I nearly wept! What I still can't understand, is how otherwise sensible people, just can't realize they're getting worked, when there's nothing to show for it, except for a smug feeling, I guess? They sort of remind me of
    the scammed townsfolk, from "Huckleberry Finn"...

    Dear Abby Jr.


    People want to believe the bullshit because they think they're on
    the path to the promised land. All they need is a little faith.

    "In Matthew 10, we read about the power that Jesus gave his disciples to
    cast out demons, raise the dead, and heal the sick. They did it many
    times until we see them in Matthew 17. They failed to cast the demon out
    of a young boy. After Jesus did what they could not do, they came to him privately to ask why. His reply to them is found in verse 20: “because
    you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small
    as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to
    there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you” (NIV)."

    https://www.liberty.edu/casas/parents/blog/mustard-seeds-and-faith/#:~:text=Truly%20I%20tell%20you%2C%20if,verse%20because%20of%20its%20encouragement.

    Our jive ass idiot proclaiming his faith is a good example of this.

    The power of faith is so strong that when #45 pardoned Steve
    Bannon for ripping off the faithful it didn't have any impact on the
    cult. It also doesn't seem to bother them that #45 did not pardon a
    single one of the faithful who came to worship him in DC on 1/6. "It's
    God's will." "He has a plan for us." "The worship service just got a
    little out of hand."

    You can join them too. All you need is a little faith. lol

    TB

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sat Sep 10 13:21:52 2022
    On 9/10/2022 7:04 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 9/9/2022 9:34 PM, film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 6:22:48 PM UTC-7, kmiller wrote:
    By all appearances, Steve Bannon likes to think that he represents the
    soul of the Maga movement. He sees himself as a tireless champion of the >>> common man, fighting their battles against America’s corrupt elites.
    It’s not for nothing that his radio show is called War Room and carried >>> by the Real America’s Voice network. But just like everybody else who
    has worked closely with Donald Trump, Bannon is either delusional or
    trying to delude. He’s not the everyman – he’s the corrupt elite.

    Steve Bannon ‘stole millions of dollars to line his own pocket,’ New >>> York attorney general says – as it happened
    Read more
    This was driven home once again on Thursday, when Bannon surrendered
    himself to New York prosecutors to face charges of defrauding donors to
    We Build the Wall, a non-profit organization that raised over $25m to
    build a wall to keep immigrants from crossing America’s southern border. >>> Although donors to the group were assured that 100% of their money would >>> be used on construction, large sums were siphoned into the pockets of
    those running the group. And who as chairman of the board allegedly took >>> the greatest sum of all? None other than Steve Bannon.

    This affair – in which two people have already pleaded guilty – is a >>> very direct example of a prominent figure in the Maga movement lining
    their pockets with the money of unsuspecting marks. But it also stands
    as a metaphor for the movement as a whole. Far from standing up for the
    interests of “ordinary Americans”, Maga exists to funnel money, power >>> and prestige to a small elite while not lifting a finger to improve the
    lives of anyone else.

    During his first presidential campaign in 2016, Trump – with Bannon at >>> his side – tried to present himself as a champion of the downtrodden. He >>> promised to bring jobs back from overseas and help Americans get over
    their economic anxiety. But as soon as he got into office, he governed
    as a plutocrat. His one significant legislative achievement before the
    coronavirus pandemic was a 2017 tax bill which forced lower-income
    groups to pay more and allowed higher income groups to pay less. And
    every year the administration proposed steep cuts to the social programs >>> used by real ordinary Americans, including a 2021 budget which would
    have cut $1.2tn from Medicaid, food stamps and elsewhere.

    In office, Trump continued to benefit from the economic recovery which
    had begun under Barack Obama, allowing him to tout high employment and
    wage levels. But just as the Biden administration is largely powerless
    to fight inflation right now, this economic performance had precious
    little to do with Trump. When he did intervene – for instance by
    launching a trade war with China – it was in ways which harmed
    manufacturers and cost American jobs. But for Trump and the Maga
    movement it’s posturing for their nationalist base, not the real effect >>> on real people, which matters.

    But Trump and Bannon have done something even more pernicious than this. >>> For they have also tried to exclude a large part of the population from
    even being considered as “ordinary Americans” at all. Theirs is an
    agenda not for the racially diverse working and middle classes that
    actually exist in America, but for a narrow white subset of it. They
    have made a mythic folk hero out of the white male worker, promising to
    return the country to an era like the 1950s, in which such people
    reigned supreme. That they then have actually done little to help even
    white workers should not obscure the fact that they have also poured
    hatred and vitriol on the immigrants and people of color who do so much
    of America’s actual work.

    All of which brings us neatly back to Bannon and the wall. It’s no
    coincidence that when Bannon left office, he dedicated himself to
    building the wall rather than building working-class communities. The
    border wall has endured as the ultimate symbol of Trumpism because the
    soul of his movement is racism and exclusion, not charity and
    assistance. It is through the stoking of hatred and division that Maga
    elites keep the punters engaged and happy to open their wallets. It’s
    also how they keep themselves rich and – through blocking any attempt to >>> actually help working people – ensure the poor stay poor.

    This, the true driving force of Trumpism, makes a mockery of
    conservatives who pretend that the Republican party can become a
    “multiethnic, multiracial, working-class party”. The proposition is
    absurd not only because the party is in hock to a movement built on
    racial hate but also because the same movement has never evinced any
    interest in actually helping “ordinary Americans”. Its leading figures >>> will eventually depart from life leaving wealthy heirs but no record of
    ever having helped the people they supposedly stand for. In the end,
    Maga is nothing but a scam with hate in its heart and other people’s
    money in its pockets. Just ask Steve Bannon.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2022/sep/09/steve-bannon-fraud-donald-trump-truth


    Your C&P was so beautiful I nearly wept!  What I still can't
    understand, is how otherwise sensible people, just can't realize
    they're getting worked,  when there's nothing to show for it,  except
    for a smug feeling,  I guess?  They sort of remind me of the scammed
    townsfolk,  from "Huckleberry Finn"...

    Dear Abby Jr.

         People want to believe the bullshit because they think they're on the path to the promised land. All they need is a little faith.

    "In Matthew 10, we read about the power that Jesus gave his disciples to
    cast out demons, raise the dead, and heal the sick. They did it many
    times until we see them in Matthew 17. They failed to cast the demon out
    of a young boy. After Jesus did what they could not do, they came to him privately to ask why. His reply to them is found in verse 20: “because
    you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small
    as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you” (NIV)."

    https://www.liberty.edu/casas/parents/blog/mustard-seeds-and-faith/#:~:text=Truly%20I%20tell%20you%2C%20if,verse%20because%20of%20its%20encouragement.


         Our jive ass idiot proclaiming his faith is a good example of this.

         The power of faith is so strong that when #45 pardoned Steve
    Bannon for ripping off the faithful it didn't have any impact on the
    cult. It also doesn't seem to bother them that #45 did not pardon a
    single one of the faithful who came to worship him in DC on 1/6. "It's
    God's will." "He has a plan for us." "The worship service just got a
    little out of hand."

         You can join them too. All you need is a little faith. lol

    TB


    People want to believe in something because it gives their life
    meaning, in a universe where meaning appears to be in short supply. By
    Earth standards trumpism isn't all that strange. It's just a new cult,
    spawned by the age of the Internet. Their behavior isn't all that
    different from any other violent cult. People find many things that are
    much odder than that to focus their lives on.

    (But, what do I know? Every now and then I believe in Gawd, "The
    totally indifferent.")

    TB

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sat Sep 10 16:00:53 2022
    On 9/10/2022 9:04 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 9/9/2022 9:34 PM, film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 6:22:48 PM UTC-7, kmiller wrote:
    By all appearances, Steve Bannon likes to think that he represents the
    soul of the Maga movement. He sees himself as a tireless champion of the >>> common man, fighting their battles against America’s corrupt elites.
    It’s not for nothing that his radio show is called War Room and carried >>> by the Real America’s Voice network. But just like everybody else who
    has worked closely with Donald Trump, Bannon is either delusional or
    trying to delude. He’s not the everyman – he’s the corrupt elite.

    Steve Bannon ‘stole millions of dollars to line his own pocket,’ New >>> York attorney general says – as it happened
    Read more
    This was driven home once again on Thursday, when Bannon surrendered
    himself to New York prosecutors to face charges of defrauding donors to
    We Build the Wall, a non-profit organization that raised over $25m to
    build a wall to keep immigrants from crossing America’s southern border. >>> Although donors to the group were assured that 100% of their money would >>> be used on construction, large sums were siphoned into the pockets of
    those running the group. And who as chairman of the board allegedly took >>> the greatest sum of all? None other than Steve Bannon.

    This affair – in which two people have already pleaded guilty – is a >>> very direct example of a prominent figure in the Maga movement lining
    their pockets with the money of unsuspecting marks. But it also stands
    as a metaphor for the movement as a whole. Far from standing up for the
    interests of “ordinary Americans”, Maga exists to funnel money, power >>> and prestige to a small elite while not lifting a finger to improve the
    lives of anyone else.

    During his first presidential campaign in 2016, Trump – with Bannon at >>> his side – tried to present himself as a champion of the downtrodden. He >>> promised to bring jobs back from overseas and help Americans get over
    their economic anxiety. But as soon as he got into office, he governed
    as a plutocrat. His one significant legislative achievement before the
    coronavirus pandemic was a 2017 tax bill which forced lower-income
    groups to pay more and allowed higher income groups to pay less. And
    every year the administration proposed steep cuts to the social programs >>> used by real ordinary Americans, including a 2021 budget which would
    have cut $1.2tn from Medicaid, food stamps and elsewhere.

    In office, Trump continued to benefit from the economic recovery which
    had begun under Barack Obama, allowing him to tout high employment and
    wage levels. But just as the Biden administration is largely powerless
    to fight inflation right now, this economic performance had precious
    little to do with Trump. When he did intervene – for instance by
    launching a trade war with China – it was in ways which harmed
    manufacturers and cost American jobs. But for Trump and the Maga
    movement it’s posturing for their nationalist base, not the real effect >>> on real people, which matters.

    But Trump and Bannon have done something even more pernicious than this. >>> For they have also tried to exclude a large part of the population from
    even being considered as “ordinary Americans” at all. Theirs is an
    agenda not for the racially diverse working and middle classes that
    actually exist in America, but for a narrow white subset of it. They
    have made a mythic folk hero out of the white male worker, promising to
    return the country to an era like the 1950s, in which such people
    reigned supreme. That they then have actually done little to help even
    white workers should not obscure the fact that they have also poured
    hatred and vitriol on the immigrants and people of color who do so much
    of America’s actual work.

    All of which brings us neatly back to Bannon and the wall. It’s no
    coincidence that when Bannon left office, he dedicated himself to
    building the wall rather than building working-class communities. The
    border wall has endured as the ultimate symbol of Trumpism because the
    soul of his movement is racism and exclusion, not charity and
    assistance. It is through the stoking of hatred and division that Maga
    elites keep the punters engaged and happy to open their wallets. It’s
    also how they keep themselves rich and – through blocking any attempt to >>> actually help working people – ensure the poor stay poor.

    This, the true driving force of Trumpism, makes a mockery of
    conservatives who pretend that the Republican party can become a
    “multiethnic, multiracial, working-class party”. The proposition is
    absurd not only because the party is in hock to a movement built on
    racial hate but also because the same movement has never evinced any
    interest in actually helping “ordinary Americans”. Its leading figures >>> will eventually depart from life leaving wealthy heirs but no record of
    ever having helped the people they supposedly stand for. In the end,
    Maga is nothing but a scam with hate in its heart and other people’s
    money in its pockets. Just ask Steve Bannon.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2022/sep/09/steve-bannon-fraud-donald-trump-truth

    Your C&P was so beautiful I nearly wept!  What I still can't
    understand, is how otherwise sensible people, just can't realize
    they're getting worked,  when there's nothing to show for it,  except
    for a smug feeling,  I guess?  They sort of remind me of the scammed
    townsfolk,  from "Huckleberry Finn"...

    Dear Abby Jr.

         People want to believe the bullshit because they think they're on the path to the promised land. All they need is a little faith.

    "In Matthew 10, we read about the power that Jesus gave his disciples to
    cast out demons, raise the dead, and heal the sick. They did it many
    times until we see them in Matthew 17. They failed to cast the demon out
    of a young boy. After Jesus did what they could not do, they came to him privately to ask why. His reply to them is found in verse 20: “because
    you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small
    as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you” (NIV)."

    https://www.liberty.edu/casas/parents/blog/mustard-seeds-and-faith/#:~:text=Truly%20I%20tell%20you%2C%20if,verse%20because%20of%20its%20encouragement.

         Our jive ass idiot proclaiming his faith is a good example of this.

         The power of faith is so strong that when #45 pardoned Steve
    Bannon for ripping off the faithful it didn't have any impact on the
    cult. It also doesn't seem to bother them that #45 did not pardon a
    single one of the faithful who came to worship him in DC on 1/6. "It's
    God's will." "He has a plan for us." "The worship service just got a
    little out of hand."

         You can join them too. All you need is a little faith. lol

    TB

    Every time you post one of your snide ass comments all you are doing is describing democrats.

    --
    --------------
    Liberals fear Donald Trump more than they fear climate change.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)